The LHD talk reminds me of Beegeagle's days when debate was about Flankers or Fullbacks

The beauty of punditry

Exnavyboy62:


Actually the Nigerian Navy has no frigates for now. The NNS Aradu is grounded but it refers to the Hamilton class cutters and P18N Corvettes as Frigates because of their big size hence the reason why they have pennant numbers like F90, F91, F92 and F93.

There is a difference between LSTs, LHDs and Amphibious assault ships

LSTs are amphibious landing ships that can carry at most a Max. of 300 troops and 30+ vehicles and they can also carry 1 helicopter and a drone depending on the size of the landing helipad and the hangar. They also possess a front bow ramp and they are lightly armed with 12.7mm guns or 30mm RCWS for close quarter combat. They can weigh 1000 tons or more Examples are Damen LST 100, LST 120

LHDs are bigger amphibious vessels that can carry up to 3,4,5... to 20 or more helicopters and they can carry a Max of 800+ troops. They don't possess a front bow ramp, instead it's from the back and they can be armed with short range SAM and CIWS guns for self defense. They can weigh 30,000 tons or more but in Algeria's case, their San Giorgio LHD weighs 8,000 tons. Examples are China's Type 75 LHD, France's Mistral class LHD.

Then Amphibious Assault ships or Landing Platform Docks are ships bigger than LSTs but smaller than LHDs. They can carry a Max of 700+ troops and they are armed with 76mm naval guns, 40mm guns and 12.7mm guns. Their 76mm guns or 40mm can be used for naval fire support. They can weigh from 12,000 tons to 20,000 tons and also don't possess front bow ramps. It is also from the back for them. Examples are the US San Antonio LPDs, China's Type 71 LPD

For better understanding;
Pic 1-LST
Pic 2-LHD
Pic 3- LPD or AAS

Alright thanks alot

Exnavyboy62:


Actually the Nigerian Navy has no frigates for now. The NNS Aradu is grounded but it refers to the Hamilton class cutters and P18N Corvettes as Frigates because of their big size hence the reason why they have pennant numbers like F90, F91, F92 and F93.

There is a difference between LSTs, LHDs and Amphibious assault ships

LSTs are amphibious landing ships that can carry at most a Max. of 300 troops and 30+ vehicles and they can also carry 1 helicopter and a drone depending on the size of the landing helipad and the hangar. They also possess a front bow ramp and they are lightly armed with 12.7mm guns or 30mm RCWS for close quarter combat. They can weigh 1000 tons or more Examples are Damen LST 100, LST 120

LHDs are bigger amphibious vessels that can carry up to 3,4,5... to 20 or more helicopters and they can carry a Max of 800+ troops. They don't possess a front bow ramp, instead it's from the back and they can be armed with short range SAM and CIWS guns for self defense. They can weigh 30,000 tons or more but in Algeria's case, their San Giorgio LHD weighs 8,000 tons. Examples are China's Type 75 LHD, France's Mistral class LHD.

Then Amphibious Assault ships or Landing Platform Docks are ships bigger than LSTs but smaller than LHDs. They can carry a Max of 700+ troops and they are armed with 76mm naval guns, 40mm guns and 12.7mm guns. Their 76mm guns or 40mm can be used for naval fire support. They can weigh from 12,000 tons to 20,000 tons and also don't possess front bow ramps. It is also from the back for them. Examples are the US San Antonio LPDs, China's Type 71 LPD

For better understanding;
Pic 1-LST
Pic 2-LHD
Pic 3- LPD or AAS

The Nigerian Navy does not refer to the Hamilton and P18N as frigates.
The 'F' designation is because they are fighting ships. The Navy calls them OPVs (P18N) and long-range OPVs (Hamilton)

kabe1:


There are reports currently circulating that Nigeria received deeply upgraded F-7NI from China, with upgrades enhancing their Air to ground capabilities.

The Nigerian Air Force also received at least 1 attrition replacement FT-7NI trainer variant.

In all 10 Fighter jets were received from China, 9 upgraded F-7s and 1 F-7 trainer for a total number of 12 units F-7NI.

Woah, that's exciting!

Kdf pre-deployment training

NTSA:
Kdf pre-deployment training

Somalia battle group 11

NAF JF-17 Thunder somewhere in Nigeria ready for Counter Terror Operations. Note the 500lb Laser Guided Bomb (Origin Un-Identified) and Turkish ASELPOD loaded for precision strike.

JF-17 is being effectively employed by NAF in its operations against terrorists

lionel4power:


The Nigerian Navy does not refer to the Hamilton and P18N as frigates.
The 'F' designation is because they are fighting ships. The Navy calls them OPVs (P18N) and long-range OPVs (Hamilton)

They do call them frigates. You can make a research on them. I passed out from a Nigerian Navy Secondary School and our instructors and officers tells us things like this.

The F on a ship means it's serving as a frigate(even though it's not actually a frigate) e.g the NNS Thunder and Okpabana

The P on a ship means it's serving as a patrol vessel e.g the NNS Oji and Karaduwa

The A on a ship means it's serving as an Auxiliary vessel e.g the NNS Ologbo, NNS Nwamba

EPAIL facility

Toju200:
DICON facility

Not DICON, EPAIL.

kabe1:


Not DICON, EPAIL.

thanks comrade
Seems like they're also mass producing BMG120

@Nemesis4you I need an explanation please

AID TO CIVIL AUTHOURITY: NAF AIRLIFTS RELIEF MATERIALS TO FLOODED COMMUNITIES IN BAYELSA STATE

In line with its constitutional mandate of providing aid to civil authority, the Nigerian Air Force (NAF) has commenced the airlift of relief materials to riverine communities in Bayelsa State affected by the recent flooding. The relief materials, which were airlifted from Enugu State to Igbogenne community in Bayelsa State via Port Harcourt, are intended to be redistributed to other riverine communities adversely affected by the recent flooding in the State. The airlift of the relief materials also aligns with the Chief of the Air Staff, Air Marshal Oladayo Amao’s directive to all operational units and commanders to ensure they provide the necessary assistance required by all government agencies towards alleviating the sufferings of Nigerians affected by this year’s unprecedented flooding in some parts of the country. The relief materials were airlifted by the C-130 aircraft from Enugu to Port Harcourt and subsequently ferried to Igbogenne in Bayelsa State using the Mi-35M and EC-135 helicopters where it was then redistributed to affected communities and villages. More relief materials are expected to be airlifted in the coming days from other parts of the country to affected flooded communities in Bayelsa State and other States in the country.

The NAF has a long history of providing aids in form of airlift to civil authourities. Recall that in March 2020, the NAF airlifted medical materials donated by the Jack Ma foundation consisting of 107 boxes of medical supplies and equipment weighing over 1,360kg. Also, in April 2020, the NAF airlifted medical equipment and supplies donated by the Turkish government from Lagos to Abuja. Additionally, in March 2021, the NAF airlifted Covid-19 medical relief materials donated by the Economic Community of West Africa States.

Edward Gabkwet Air Commodore Director of Public Relations and Information Nigerian Air Force

25 October 2022

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shadowprimezero:
@Nemesis4you I need an explanation please

I want one oo

I am 99% sure that the wordings seen in the pic was put there by some smart-ass

Anyways i think they are trying to show their capabilities & products (as proof of concept) of e-vehicles, electric conversion kits since a tender was released for electric vehicles for use in army cantonments

Other than that I don't know or cant say for sure . Am not aware of the company

Many electric vehicles were on display eg e bikes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VP_SpW-DyQg

At 5.15
freedom of speech died suddenly

NA soldier

Nemesis4you:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VP_SpW-DyQg

At 5.15
freedom of speech died suddenly

In Nigeria we say "comrade, off your mic"

KDF training with the US army

KDF support group in Somalia

kabe1:


This is ridiculous, the United States is a global superpower with bases all across the world, hence the requirement for super carriers and LHDs.

The US also spends over 800 billion USD on defence, that's nearly 2 times of Nigeria's entire GDP.

A Nation that it's security seriously spends in areas that are most needed, not in LHDs.

the fact that you don't see the benefit of an LHD(especially for Nigeria) is actually scary

jl115:
the fact that you don't see the benefit of an LHD(especially for Nigeria) is actually scary

Really?

Kindly explain further.

kabe1:


Really?

Kindly explain further.

It's literally your LST but with the added advantage of having additional helicopters(transport and AH) to support landing troops.....not only will it benefit Nigeria in terms of conventional force projection but with peacekeeping operations as well(ECOMOG comes to mind) ...Lessons from our operation in CAR should come to mind wrt air support.

jl115:

It's literally your LST but with the added advantage of having additional helicopters(transport and AH) to support landing troops.....not only will it benefit Nigeria in terms of conventional force projection but with peacekeeping operations as well(ECOMOG comes to mind) ...Lessons from our operation in CAR should come to mind wrt air support.

Looking at a map, I struggle to see where Nigeria would need an LHD to deploy air support. The whole Gulf of Guinea AO is a flight away.
The 2 LSTs make infinitely more sense.

Lurker4Long:

Looking at a map, I struggle to see where Nigeria would need an LHD to deploy air support. The whole Gulf of Guinea AO is a flight away.
The 2 LSTs make infinitely more sense.

how many helicopters can be carried in a single c130?

jl115:
how many helicopters can be carried in a single c130?

Nigerian helicopters can fly to their destinations in the AO.

jl115:

It's literally your LST but with the added advantage of having additional helicopters(transport and AH) to support landing troops.....not only will it benefit Nigeria in terms of conventional force projection but with peacekeeping operations as well(ECOMOG comes to mind) ...Lessons from our operation in CAR should come to mind wrt air support.

Nigeria has no requirement for an LHD. Buying such a ship would be an infinitely waste of resources.

What Nigeria needs is another LST, same size and displacement as NNS Kada.

If we look at our deployment to Gambia, Nigeria could not move armour to Gambia during the early stages of the intervention.

However because of during this year's deployment to Guinea Bissau men, armour and light skin vehicles were all moved at once.

While an LHD provides same sealift and more, Nigeria does not have any expeditionary ambitions, nor the budget to support and sustain the operations of an LHD.

What Nigeria needs at the moment is to quickly get in the second LST to support NNS Kada, also investments in Medium Utility Helicopter like the MI-17.

The recent flooding has exposed Nigeria's lack of adequate air mobility in peace time.

We have used frontline MI-35M Attack Helicopters and EC-135 helicopters for roles that the MI-17s should carry out.

kabe1:


Nigeria has no requirement for an LHD. Buying such a ship would be an infinitely waste of resources.

What Nigeria needs is another LST, same size and displacement as NNS Kada.

If we look at our deployment to Gambia, Nigeria could not move armour to Gambia during the early stages of the intervention.

However because of during this year's deployment to Guinea Bissau men, armour and light skin vehicles were all moved at once.

While an LHD provides same sealift and more, Nigeria does not have any expeditionary ambitions, nor the budget to support and sustain the operations of an LHD.

What Nigeria needs at the moment is to quickly get in the second LST to support NNS Kada, also investments in Medium Utility Helicopter like the MI-17.

The recent flooding has exposed Nigeria's lack of adequate air mobility in peace time.

We have used frontline MI-35M Attack Helicopters and EC-135 helicopters for roles that the MI-17s should carry out.

no expeditionary ambitions yet you want another LST?? A bit contradictory don't you think... Also sending armour without air support ain't great bru..

jl115:
no expeditionary ambitions yet you want another LST?? A bit contradictory don't you think... Also sending armour without air support ain't great bru..

It's not contradictory.

Nigeria has no expeditionary ambitions, however to ensure security and the flow of trade in Nigeria, Nigeria needs to have the capability to deploy troops, armour and aid across the West-African quickly and efficiently.

This is why the Nigerian Navy has a requirement for a minimum of 2 LSTs.

jl115:
no expeditionary ambitions yet you want another LST?? A bit contradictory don't you think... Also sending armour without air support ain't great bru..

What is air support? The ability to use Commercially available drones in combat zone is air support, besides we had no problems deploying fighter jets, helicopters and transport aircrafts to Gambia, but we could not deploy armour on time.

kabe1:


It's not contradictory.

Nigeria has no expeditionary ambitions, however to ensure security and the flow of trade in Nigeria, Nigeria needs to have the capability to deploy troops, armour and aid across the West-African quickly and efficiently.

This is why the Nigerian Navy has a requirement for a minimum of 2 LSTs.

Nigeria has none when it comes to an Expeditionary doctrine.
They go to great lengths to punch below the belt.
Even the second LST it was only after the first one was almost completed that it dawned on them the importance and implications of having a Sister Ship.