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| Re: Agriculture Can We Really Make A Living From It by TheUnbeatable(m): 5:27pm On Nov 23, 2013 |
Snail management: You can raise your snails without buildings. You raise it in an open field but there are ways you will go by it. There are precautions so that you will not run at lose. You need a good land here and. You need to control snail enemies and theft fom fellow humans. This system can be as simple has making seed beds and planting crops on it so that the crops can provide food and shelter for the snails. You dont necesarily need tree crops or go planting maize and the likes. Irrespective of your little budget, you can arrange a farm that will be befiting for your status and i think that is why we go to school. So that we can always improvice and use the available best substitute for the job when there is absence of the original material. I think you all get my points now. If you want to travel from lagos to ibadan and your car broke down and lets say you have exams. The basic thing is to get to ibadan on time. You can take a light, go by a bus, a car, a truck, a bike, a bicycle or treak. The major thing is for you to get to ibadan on time, so any means that is available should be taken advantage of , then we look at the pros and cons of using any of the transport system. Right? Thank you. In this system, your snails. Is given an "In- situ" experience/ "living in the wild" experience. Semi intensive method: in this method, you rear snails in pens but you also plant crops inside the pen as you also feed the snails too. They have a semi _ wild experience. Here you will need to water the pens unlike the extensive (previous) method. Snails grow faster here and you can always go there to monitor them at anytime you want. Another method is the intensive method where you make concrete pens and take care of them there. If you want to start big, you can have brooding house, where you will have incubation room, nursery and other rooms. Its only government that can operate on this scale because of its capital intensivity and labour works. Before i forget, you can use tyres as your pen also. You only need to cover it with net on top and fill the first tyre with sand. Depending on the size of the tyres, it can take 5- 10 big snails. I think you get it now. Your creativity is needed in anyplace your fund falls short. You can also use basckets too. Turn the basckets upside down and use it or use another basket to cover another one containing soil. If you have money, you can use fowl(poultry bird) wooden cage. You cover the sides and top with nets like mosquito nets and flexible iron nets and you can put thefour legs in insectiside(that is if you have the money). You can use "spent engine oil"/ or black engine oil. Put it inside empty babasala milo can and put the engine oil. This will control the snail enemies. If you want me to speak big big grammars, i can but i think this simple constructions will help someone/investor that is not as educated as me. Infact, a man is said to be educated if he can express a big topic in simple ways. I have done a sensitization job for an organisation before. I did all my work and when i got to the evnue to deliver my lecture, it was something else, rural people more rural than what i thought were my audience. Infact, the language of communication first of all change from english to general yoruba that is if they are good enough to understand it. My people no be small thing o. But we thank God. I was not put to shame.and just yesterday i thought it wise to start trainign people on general practical agriculture because i have seen enough problems to launch me out to encourage not deceive people into starting small. Agric is worth doing if you can take the pains to learn. Let me give a formula for snail mash if you care. I saw it in a book from centre for urban agriculture and developement. I dont take credit for other peoples labours. Here is it: Caco3 30% Calcium phosphate 4% Soya meal 20% Sunflower seeds 5% Wheat flower 40% Vitamin mix or premix 1% If you can afford it, make it and if not feed your snails with these other things: Pawpaw(ripe or unripe) Bababa or baba leve and peels Tomato, cucumber, orange, watermelon, pineapple, plantain, corn, avocado, cashew, ugwu, cocoyam, potatoe, casava, egg plant, beans,brewery waste, anything you can feed you pig or goat, give your snails EXCEPT "SALT"! I think this my little "workable knowledge" will be of help to just 1 person. It will give me great joy and encourage me to forge ahead with my training dreams. I gave my company line here sometime back but i dont have fone to accomodate that sim for now. Let me give my personal line. Please send me a text message to introduce yourself first before calling me so that i get to save your number before you call. Your questions is best sent through text please because i like to sit down and attend to someone at a time secludedly. Its not every time i have money to suscribe. I am true. A nigerian with a fragile name and i stand tall to protect ti. If i cant help you, i will tell you. I am not God that is all sufficient and all knowing! Merci beaucoup tontle monde! Your friend, The Unbeatable. 1 Like |
| Re: Agriculture Can We Really Make A Living From It by TheUnbeatable(m): 5:32pm On Nov 23, 2013 |
please i will respond to other peoles posts later.my bottom is getting hot oooo i need to attend to other things. i will anser: emmysteve,5p1naz, bawelat, mike58,yemmit90, eddyspice,usa.number,star2008,onuels, eminikansoso,vpaymoney,boluwajokosegun, and others. bonsoiree!!! |
| Re: Agriculture Can We Really Make A Living From It by Abojupupa: 8:27pm On Nov 23, 2013 |
Good effort, Dr Isa & Unbeatable. I had a snailery on free range at the backyard, and it was promising with several snails sleeping on the walls. The first 'accident' was theft by our neighbours' children. (don't know how they gained access to our fenced building.). The second were ants. They wiped off the population, twice. That discouraged me. But I have just discovered remnants of the snails in tyres dumped at the backyard, and your discussions on this thread give me hope to start all over. But I still have two questions, and I'll be glad to have your answers. 1. Is there any way I can control the ants and keep the snails on a free range? 2. How will I market the snails if I have population explosion? |
| Re: Agriculture Can We Really Make A Living From It by EJaja(m): 1:55am On Nov 24, 2013 |
Gooday Dr Isa and unbeatable. I would like to commend you guyd for the great deal of expositions you two have added to this thread I am looking at kickstarting my farming project with crop productions from next planting season come next year. I intend to startup with cassava and maize, with my target buyers being industral users(starch nd flour) from my reasearch I have noticed that their is a short suply of this crops for industral usage, which is why I would like to seek ur advice on this crops. I would like to use this medium to ask if I can ger you numbers or email for a private discussion as I have a lot to ask. My email is iyerifama@yahoo.com. Hope to hear from u guys soon |
| Re: Agriculture Can We Really Make A Living From It by aAK1(m): 6:06am On Nov 24, 2013 |
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| Re: Agriculture Can We Really Make A Living From It by TheUnbeatable(m): 11:00pm On Nov 24, 2013 |
@abojupupa I like your courage. Its not easy to start any business in nigeria not even with the prevailent circumstances inherent. Your choice of free range snail farming is good but their some structures you need to put in place. You need to make a mosquito net cum flexible net wall for your snails. Inside your building, depending on your budget, make 1m high fence round a smaller portion of your fallow ground and. Use insecticides at the exterior of the fence. If you can afford a trench, that will be the lasting solution but if not just use the insecticide spray every week and you will have a safer environment. A systemic broad spectrum herbicide like "glyphosphate, active ingredient" will also help outside the fence. If you can use block, then you will need to cover it so that the snails wount climb and escape. |
| Re: Agriculture Can We Really Make A Living From It by TheUnbeatable(m): 11:18pm On Nov 24, 2013 |
@ e-jaja I like your desire ! Maize and cassava is a good mix. There are many things involved oooo! You want to produce for factories, have you asked for how much they buy from farmers? My person, from what I know(I stand to be correcteds sha) they don't give a good price. You should ask why majority of farmers don't sell to them but rather sell to local garri makers. Sir/madam, there are many problems involved in crop production ooo. I stand tall to say it ooo! To weed my okro and ammaranthus farm now is a problem for me even as I am talking with you even with my sprinkler irrigation gaan, I still have challenges. Mind you I am not discouraging you o but I am preparing your mind for the task ahead. Please My advise for anyone that want to go into crop production now should think about "irrigation" because we are experiencing climate change now even here in nigeria. Rainfall, sunshine and relative humidity are not predictable. To your amaizement, irrigation systems are not that expensive as you all may think. Irrigation systems are many and there should be one that can suite your purse. |
| Re: Agriculture Can We Really Make A Living From It by TheUnbeatable(m): 11:44pm On Nov 24, 2013 |
@boluwajokosegun Bros, I trowey salut oh I like this your "cassava mouth cultivation" and sales. You even want to sale the peels, hmnn. Doing business with you will be a nice thing because I will want to learn more from your school of thought. @ 5p1naz: Your abservations are plaussible on snail farming seminar guys. You are a typical nigerian man like me. You can't be intimidated! Relocation to my own land is the next on my agenda. Once I have settled that, I am looking at on farm trainings for prospective agric investors. A farm like the famous songhai farm but it will take time.when I am ready, I should give a shout on nairaland here by Gods grace. I need to read your post again to give you some precautions. Now, for people who are dropping their e mails, its not a bad idea, but I think keeping conversations open will be the best education fellow readers and contributors can ever have. Me too want to read this thread and get educated. We are all learning so please, I am begging, let's be liberal and security counscious. Thank you! @vpaymoney: Please becareful, nigerians somethime don't know what is disturbing them. Before it was aloe vera crase, later, it was moringa and now its quail eggs. Who knows what next? But if you still insist on your moringa cultivation, show your interest in another post and I will tell you what I know about the crop. It is planted on my farm even now! @datola: Please read my previous post when I replied someone just now. You have almost all you need to start. Perimeter fencing wount be a bad idea! How I wish I can draw or make some dramatic explanations now but let me put it this way sir. Have you been to a oil palm nursery before? Did you see the way they arrange it to form a rectangle shape on the ground. Let's say that is how you peg your land just use tiny wire nettings |
| Re: Agriculture Can We Really Make A Living From It by TheUnbeatable(m): 11:57pm On Nov 24, 2013 |
@eminikansoso: Depending on the scale you want to start with, I think, 200k will be enough to start little. You can show your interest in the one you want to start first! @onuels: You can start anyone. Both are profitable but rabbits are more prolific. You will have litres every 2-3 months and you can sell. You have a land? Good, then let's get started now! @star2008: you can reach me on 08067341873. If you are calling from outside nigeria, it will be +2348067341873. @usa.number: please take dressing from corner chen. Here is not for adverts. @emmysteve: My brother, enjoy your cage! Every disappointment is a blessing. Look for something to do with the extra spaces. |
| Re: Agriculture Can We Really Make A Living From It by EJaja(m): 4:41pm On Nov 25, 2013 |
@ The unbeateable yes i totally agree with you that the market for cassava and maize can be very discouraging. i have done a few reseach in the last 6 months and i intended make it buy producing root varieties with higer starch and an average of 30 ton per hectare for cassava and improved maize seed that can produce upto 3ton per hectare . which is one area where most farmers get it wrong especially in the production for cassava. http://www.tfinigeria.com/pricing.aspx The link above is the current price of cassava from the company and other companies offer between 15 to 25k. And for maize I was told to either deal with the likes of nestle by becoming a contract farmer to them or sell to the national grain reserve for 100 naira per kg which make it 100k per ton. From my finding most cassava farmers fo not not identify there market, weither its for starch, flour or glucose. I would like to findout what you mean by it involves somany thing in cassava and maize production. I would also like to findout how much it would cost to setup a simple irrigation system (sprinkler). And I woul like to ask what types of vegitables woul sell in the south west, as I plan to go into vegitable production while I wait for the cassava to mature. 1 Like |
| Re: Agriculture Can We Really Make A Living From It by Etesam(m): 7:51pm On Nov 25, 2013 |
The Unbeatable: @ e-jaja |
| Re: Agriculture Can We Really Make A Living From It by Etesam(m): 8:01pm On Nov 25, 2013 |
I wld like to go into onion farming. I live in Akwa Ibom State. I have passion for farming. It challenges me that we buy food from the north. 1 Like |
| Re: Agriculture Can We Really Make A Living From It by Abojupupa: 9:25am On Nov 26, 2013 |
@ The Unbeatable, Thank you so much. |
| Re: Agriculture Can We Really Make A Living From It by TheUnbeatable(m): 9:03pm On Nov 26, 2013 |
@etesam: I have seen onion plantation before. The place is an island and the onion plantation was on seed bed, grown normally like amaranthus cruentus and celosia argentia. I have limited knowledge about onion agronomy and I welcome all available knowledge. Thank you all! The Unbeatable |
| Re: Agriculture Can We Really Make A Living From It by EJaja(m): 9:22am On Nov 27, 2013 |
@ the unbeatable your still yet to throw more lite on the questions I asked earlier, here are the questions again I would like to findout what you mean by it involves somany thing in cassava and maize production. I would also like to findout how much it would cost to setup a simple irrigation system (sprinkler). And I would like to ask what types of vegitables or crop with a 30 to 90 day cycle would sell in the south west, as I plan to go into vegitable production while I wait for the cassava to mature. |
| Re: Agriculture Can We Really Make A Living From It by FarmTech(m): 12:44pm On Nov 27, 2013 |
5p1naz: I have zero experience in snail farming practically but vast knowledge when it comes to theory. I have been taught one on one... Read books and attended seminars in Nigeria and Ghana. Truth is I still wasn't convinced about the profitability of snail farming because these guys who teach these snail farming at these events don't even drive a car.i totally agree with you. Nigerians shud learn how to freely share information. The problem with many is that they even sell information that shud be free. Thanks so much. The australian lady u visited her farm, please i'll like to know some of the tips she shared with you. If u have pictures of how her pen look like, please share. Thanks. |
| Re: Agriculture Can We Really Make A Living From It by FarmTech(m): 2:47pm On Nov 27, 2013 |
The Unbeatable: @ bawelat,hi Unbeatable, can u pls tell me which meat goat breed is suitable in the south-east region? I really want to go into goatry. |
| Re: Agriculture Can We Really Make A Living From It by FarmTech(m): 2:58pm On Nov 27, 2013 |
As a great admirer of agriculture, this thread is one of the best I've ever seen. I currently have 547 pullets. If you're interested, check out my progress here where I share a lot of useful information: https://www.nairaland.com/1429964/poultry-farm#19826613 |
| Re: Agriculture Can We Really Make A Living From It by Emmysteve(m): 4:39pm On Nov 27, 2013 |
Thank you very much Unstopable and Dr Isa for ur concern, i really apprecite. I think i av settle. Bellow is the pix. Thanx. |
| Re: Agriculture Can We Really Make A Living From It by Emmysteve(m): 4:57pm On Nov 27, 2013 |
Unstoppable. To upload pix on Nairaland is as easy as ABC or 123 simpliy click on quote button the way you reply comment, under you will see "choose file" and go to the file on you phone that you wish to upload. Make sure the size of your photo is less than 200KB. 1 Like |
| Re: Agriculture Can We Really Make A Living From It by momexcellency: 5:25pm On Nov 27, 2013 |
Thank you so much for the information. I have been nursing to go into Livestock Farming, but I have a burden in my heart on who will run it for me. I want to start with poultry but because of the risk involved and my lack of experience I will like to start with snail/ grasscutter farming. Please can the two be done on one land and what requirement should the person that will manage @ the farm possess. Please I will appreciate your advice on this. Thank you. |
| Re: Agriculture Can We Really Make A Living From It by Emmysteve(m): 7:01pm On Nov 27, 2013 |
Below is my cage. 6ft long, 3ft wide. Its actually bigger than its looks 1 Like
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| Re: Agriculture Can We Really Make A Living From It by Emmysteve(m): 7:19pm On Nov 27, 2013 |
Make more money raising guinea fowls Entrepreneurs are reaping from little known animals with promising future, such as the raising of guinea fowls, geese, rabbits, grasscutters, quails, ducks, snails, etc. This is because the business is easy to start and it requires a small capital. Our nationwide seminars are initiated to drive investments in agriculture, skills and develop a robust economic base that can withstand the shock that will come after oil. For people who want to start their own businesses, I will advise them to try raising guinea fowls for a steady income. Given the state of the economy, guinea fowl farming is one of the most lucrative ventures for small scale farmers. Guinea fowl is a valuable genetic resource for evolving a low input- grain saving poultry alternative for production in the developing world. Today’s farmers should embrace creative subsistence farming to meet the food needs of the family and even to augment income. At Jovana Farms, we are looking inwards and focusing on the neglected, but vital sources of animal protein for household diet and employment generation. Therefore, our nationwide agro-seminars are intended to provide useful information on the various aspects of animal production, create awareness and thus motivate Nigerian farmers, investors, job seekers, retirees, students to get involved in animal farming for profits. Many people have never seen a guinea fowl, not talk of hearing of the fowl. Guinea fowls are galliformes, a group encompassing all chicken-like birds. Native to Africa, they are known for travelling in large, gregarious flocks. There are seven species of guinea fowl, of which the helmeted pearl is by far the most common. Others are the white and the lavender, etc. Guinea fowls are raised mainly for their tasty meat and eggs. The meat has a taste similar to other game birds and has many nutritional qualities that make it a worthwhile addition to the diet. The meat is lean, dry and rich in essential fatty acids. The meat has a high yield of 80 per cent after processing with excellent meat to bone ratio. Many people don’t know that it is more profitable to raise guinea fowl than chicken. The business Chicken and turkey farmers keep guinea fowls to ward off poultry-eating predators. Ranchers turn them loose to discourage rattlers and copperheads. Rural dwellers like the way they gobble down diseases-carrying ticks. Orchardists use them to drive off marauding birds. Farmers put them to work patrolling for row crop pests. Guinea fowls perform these functions without damaging crops because they much prefer insects, weeds and seeds. Guinea fowl farming can start with a unit normally called a foundation stock, which is sold for N25,000 depending on the specie. A unit comprises two males and eight females. It may interest you to know that you could get fast-growing species of guinea fowls and other animals, including large quantities of geese and quail eggs from our farm. Rearing systems Three methods of rearing guinea fowls are free-range, semi free-range and intensive systems. When kept intensively, low light intensity should be used to reduce possible flightiness. Guinea fowls are difficult to confine in open yards unless their wings are pinioned or one wing is clipped. In their wild state, guinea fowls mate in pairs. This tendency prevails also among domesticated guineas if males and females in the flock are equal in number. They are hardy birds; therefore, they do not suffer from many diseases as compared to chickens. Feeding Those who believe in the virtue of hard work are advised to try raising guinea fowls. A good commercial chicken or turkey mash will give satisfactory results, with birds either on free range or in confinement. In the wild arena, the guinea fowl eats a variety of foods but most important are weed seeds and waste grains, which fall to the ground after the harvesting of crops. Some common guinea fowl diets include: fruits, berries, seeds, grass, insects, worms, molluscs and frogs. They have gained popularity for use in reducing insects’ population in gardens, snail farms and around the home. Reproduction The guinea fowl can begin to lay eggs as young as 16 -17 weeks old and can lay up to 120 eggs or more in a year. In tropical Africa, laying only occurs during the rainy season and a few weeks that follow. A clutch size of 12-15 eggs is common. A guinea fowl’s egg is smaller than that of hens, and on the average, weighs 40g and has very hard shells, which are difficult to test for fertility by candling. Incubation period is 26-28 days. 2 Likes |
| Re: Agriculture Can We Really Make A Living From It by Emmysteve(m): 7:47pm On Nov 27, 2013 |
@momexcellency I think i can help a little and leave the rest to the ogas at the top of this thread. If you have the finance, ofcox you can start the two at thesame time. Personally, i think rearing grass cutter is more easier and less risky than Snail farming. You dont need a big farm land before starting since you can confine them. As you can see a cage in my previous post, that would accomadate upto 20 grass cutters. you can start grass cutter farming with a family. A family of grass cutters is made up of 1 male and four female making five. A family goes for 45, 000 naira. As a fresher, its advisable you buy them at four months old and they start reproducing when they are 6 or 7 months. Grass cutters reproduces twice in a year with an average of 6kids and a maximun of 10 at once. Abeg permit me to stop here, tommorow i shall continue with their marketing, feeding, etc of grass cutters. Dont get it twisted, i be learner like you. I am only sharing my knowledge becouse i am also a potential grass cutter farmer. GOOD NITE |
| Re: Agriculture Can We Really Make A Living From It by momexcellency: 10:18am On Nov 28, 2013 |
Thank you so much for your quick response. Please when you are ready to continue the teaching on feeding, marketing etc. About grasscutters, please consider my location, I live in Abuja, hope it is marketable in Abuja and the hot weather what is the effect on them? Thank you as I await your reply, |
| Re: Agriculture Can We Really Make A Living From It by yemmit90: 1:21pm On Nov 28, 2013 |
@Emmysteve, Grass cutters is more easier and less risky than snail farming? Sth! |
| Re: Agriculture Can We Really Make A Living From It by eddyspice(m): 3:06pm On Nov 28, 2013 |
yemmit90: @Emmysteve, Grass cutters is more easier and less risky than snail farming?i agree with u.thanks for the info |
| Re: Agriculture Can We Really Make A Living From It by Emmysteve(m): 7:37pm On Nov 28, 2013 |
yemmit90: @Emmysteve, Grass cutters is more easier and less risky than snail farming?what do you mean sir? |
| Re: Agriculture Can We Really Make A Living From It by Emmysteve(m): 9:31pm On Nov 28, 2013 |
This is their feeding trough. Its made from clay.
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| Re: Agriculture Can We Really Make A Living From It by Emmysteve(m): 10:02pm On Nov 28, 2013 |
momexcellency: Thank you so much for your quick response. Please when you are ready to continue the teaching on feeding, marketing etc. About grasscutters, please consider my location, I live in Abuja, hope it is marketable in Abuja and the hot weather what is the effect on them? Thank you as I await your reply,u are welcome. Abuja ? i am also planning to settle in Abuja once i finish my service february next year. I currenty live in Kaduna. Back to your question, the location doesnt really matter because grass cutters love heat. infact, you must protect them from cold weather. Feeding: you can feed them twice a day i.e morning and evening. Grass cutters feed mainly on grass. in other words you dont need to spend money buying feeds unlike other animals. All you need is cuttlas and a pear of jungle boot. You can also intruduce them with concentrates such as corn, rice, pawpaw, bone(to steengthen their teeth) patato peels, sugar cane peels etc Marketibility: Since its Abuja you dont have a problem, to be frank with you grass cutter meat is very cost compare to other meats. A single grass cutter can go for 2,000 to 5.000 naira depending on they size. Grass cutters are very big in size o no thesame with those common ones you see in the bush, they can even weight 9kg. Your target audience should be hotels, restourants, eateries, individuals and prospective grass cutter farmers. just make sure you have enough of them so that when ever your customers are in need of meat you should be able to give them regular supply. |
| Re: Agriculture Can We Really Make A Living From It by koolsammie(m): 10:19pm On Nov 28, 2013 |
any idea about pigs? |
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