iphy42:


How are you sure that division will bring freedom? My point is this: are we going to import people from Mars to be our citizens, is it not the same set of selfish, corrupt, greedy people that will spill over from Nigeria and continue from where they stopped in the new countries?

iphy42:




Maybe it's my turn to ask if you've been to the west or north before. If you have then you will know that nothing can cure the disaffection between the Igbos and Yorubas. Do you know how many people that were killed in Lagos in 1993 during the Abiola saga? If not for the Nigerian umbrella, the Yorubas would have long sent the Igbos away. The Igbos hate the Yorubas as much too. The Hausas on the other hand live in peace if not for religious fanatics that incite violence.

abagoro: Igbos don't hate anybody but most of these Nairaland Igbos are just PDP agents playing to the gallery of their masters. Igbos as a people are very individualistic and often have differed opinions on every issue and can never agree. So never judge all Igbos from what is seen on Nairaland.

iphy42:


I think Igbos will be badly hit by the
division because most of their investments are outside Igboland.

Besides an average Igboman will want to be in charge hence the many autonomous
communities you see everywhere in Igboland.

Have you not noticed that kingship in most communities in the East is no
longer by inheritance but by vote hence the word like Igwe elect. Does this not tell you that the Igbos will divide themselves until every family become a
country of its own With every man becoming a president. Haven't you heard
that 'Igbo ama Eze'.

Don't you think you are being selfish by not caring about what happens to other regions after you separate? Have you forgotten that some of your Igbo sisters live in these other tribes or regions by virtue of marriage?

God in His infinite wisdom brought us all together for a purpose. The only problem we have are our leaders who are
insatiably greedy.

atlwireles:

They kill an average of 1000 Nigerian every year in the name of Allah, for past 60 years. Yet you call them peaceful

iphy42:


I have been to the North and I must tell you that asides religious fanatism and maybe the harsh weather, they are simple and honest people. Very hospitable and kind. The more reason why I hate Boko haram is that they are painting the whole of the North black. Mind you, some of these BH members are not Nigerians. I know some Hausas who had lost loved ones too.

iphy42:


I have been to the North and I must tell you that asides religious fanatism and maybe the harsh weather, they are simple and honest people. Very hospitable and kind. The more reason why I hate Boko haram is that they are painting the whole of the North black. Mind you, some of these BH members are not Nigerians. I know some Hausas who had lost loved ones too.

nyabingi:
oga dont say what u dont know just because you have acess to a social site as this, im full blood igbo, born and raised in the north and spending adult life in the west, the igbo yoruba issue is born out if jelousy which can be corrected with politics but the north hate the igbos with passion both from religion and sicial angle!

ngozievergreen:

The latter parts of ur posts have too much sentiments and I don't like sentiments.
y will I care what happens to the other parts shd igbos leave? Where were they when igbos were suffering to find their square root in the 70s? History never lies. They can stay tog without the igbos, if they wish.

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For the first part, what do u mean by igbos have most of their investments outside igboland?
even If its true, how does that prevent secession?
U only become a citizen of the new/ host
country, say Arewa republic but not an indigene .
If conditions become unfavorable, u sell the properties, if they buy them for peanuts, that will be ur luck, for doing it so late.
Igbos easily recover from such tnz, like I said, they have seen it all.

atlwireles:

I spent 12 years living in different army barracks in the North. They have been killing southerns before boko haram became an issue. Right from the 70s in Maiduguri, Yola, and Kaduna in the 80s. My parent were so worried, we never left the barracks, only on Sunday for church services.

iphy42:


If Lagos will deport Igbos when the law forbids it, what will happen when we divide and they are backed by law?
You have sisters married to Yorubas so you'll need a visa to visit them?
Btw By sisters I mean fellow Igbos not necessarily your blood relations.
What has sentiment got to do with looking out for others?

Greatken007: IT SEEMS ALL THOSE WHO WANT NIGERIA TO DIVIDE ARE DRUNK OR SOMETHING...WHEN IT HAPPEN THE PROBLEM YOU NEVER THOUGHT OF WILL BEGIN TO BE MORE VISIBLE,THEN YOU WIL SEE A POLITICIAN FORMING HIS OWN STATE,THEN THE HAUSA CHRISTIANS IN THE NORTH WIL BE SEEN AS HALFCAST,THE NUMBER OF AUTONOMOUS COMMUNITIES IN THE EAST WIL BE OUT OF CONTROL(WE AV ABOVE 100 IN IMO STATE PRESENTLY),IN FACT AMARAKU IN ISIALA-MBANO LGA HAS 5 VILLAGES WITH 3 EZE.PLATEAU STATE HAS OVER 100 ETHNIC GROUP,TARABA

iphy42:


If Lagos will deport Igbos when the law forbids it, what will happen when we divide and they are backed by law?
You have sisters married to Yorubas so you'll need a visa to visit them?
Btw By sisters I mean fellow Igbos not necessarily your blood relations.
What has sentiment got to do with looking out for others?

kwakayekaa: so you are raying UNILAG UI,and OAU are underdeveloped schools? the south west boasts of the fairest and best schools in nigeria

ngozievergreen:

They were built when Nig was a better place

UI was built my the btitish

achi4u: Bia fiiznation or whatever u call urself next time u want to quote me make sure you've taking ur kparaga medicine with hot water in order to give you a clear cut.

@topic, we have experimented this union called nigeria for over 60 to 100 years without any positive thing to show for it,so why can't we experiment another diagnosis to know weather we can get it right this time.
I love nigeria but nigeria have never showed me any likeness for once rather she keeps denying me my basic right.

Nigeria cannever work the way it is now.

Chrisbenogor:
There is no divide button to press, the only way this country would part is through bloodshed simple.
Obviously you were not around the last time it happened, with the proliferation of weapons now through the whole of the arab world your basic right to type what you like on this forum would be for VIPs only.
Look at Libya for instance, Gadaffi united the whole country in hate or well most of it. The minute he was gone then all the various tribes started to remember the feuds they used to have with the people they fought side by side, today the country is worse off and there is no telling which direction the country would head to.
Splitting this country would never ever ever ever happen. The earlier you sit up and practice actively in the process that would bring about good governance the better for us all.

iphy42: I have followed with interest the intrigues that surround the call for a Sovereign or Non sovereign National Conference.
Many have argued that 1914 amalgamation was a big mistake while others maintain that our strength is in our number.
I think we need to be informed before taking a stand so as not to join the bandwagon driven by sentiments, greed, avarice and struggle for political control by few individuals.
Let me start with the Niger Deltans. They believe they have been marginalized and their resources forcefully taken over from them to develop Nigeria and so on but I have these thoughts for them:
1. Their leaders have received derivation fund for years, what exactly has those
Niger deltan sons done with that fund to benefit the people of region?
All the compensation money from oil companies, has it being used to better the life of the people or to provide basic infrastructure?
2. The NDDC is manned by Niger deltans, yet their eyes and ears are closed to the suffering of their people. The leadership instead loot funds meant for development and enrich their cronies and immediate families.
3. The president is from Niger delta. Has he done enough to empower his people asides paying millions of dollars to an ex militant to secure pipelines which MEND claims to destroy thereby polluting the communal lands and waters more.

Now fast forward to a divided Nigeria, are these same people looting the region dry not the ones that will be the leaders then? What would they do differently? Will they suddenly become humane? I doubt so.
Will the ijaws not want to be in charge? Will the Urhobos and Itshekiris oblige them? Will the Kalabaris and Isokos tag along? Will the division that chased them
from Nigeria not tear them apart?

I really want objective input from well meaning Nigerians for or against division so as to know the real situation on ground before we embark on this journey of no return.

I'll be right back with more.

oil suop: it will not solve any problem look at south sudan the new country is now suffering from corupt leadership the common man is suffering while their ministers are buying big cars and 5 houses each

nyabingi:

igbo have lived in many part of the world and have also intermaried

kwakayekaa: so you are raying UNILAG UI,and OAU are underdeveloped schools? the south west boasts of the fairest and best schools in nigeria

macof:

I don't perceive Isekiri anywhere outside Oduduwa nation

iphy42:


I know but we have more Igbos married to Yorubas than those married outside Nigeria not to mention those in other parts of Nigeria.

ezeagu:

What does that have to do with Igbo people living in Igboland?

iphy42:




Are you rock sure that no one is fighting for the capital of south west?

https://www.nairaland.com/1488368/national-conference-akure-good-candidate

Compare Festac, Satelite town, Okota, Lekki etc to Isale Eko, Mushin, Ajangbadi, Orile, Amukoko etc. Which of these places are more developed and who are the major developers or residents there.

I am not saying that Yorubas can't develop the West but the pace and quality of development would differ with a west collectively developed by Nigerians.
Pre colonial and post colonial era are not the same. A lot of water have passed under the bridge.
We all need each other.

ngozievergreen:

Don't get it twisted, Lagos is cosmopolitan.
Am sure those mainland parts of Lagos look better now than when they were under the western something something.
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Igbos like being their own investors, yes, we invest everywhere but the little we put at Anambra and Abia already made those places the most indigenously industrialized places in Nigeria.
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