DrummaBoy:

Thank you(s) jare!

I hope you can read Mr Gombs aka Tithe Collector !

vickyO: God also speaks to us through his prophets. Just test the spirit behind the prophecy.

Gombs:

How dare u!? Have you seared your conscience this much?

Gombs:
That man has more than 1miillion brethren in Nigeria alone..not to talk of around the world. You think its by his power and might? You think its by his senses?

Gombs:
You that can't gather 20ppl[b]Gombs:[/b] (or even ten) for a bible study class and yet you call him a failure

Gombs:
Timothy had a lot brethren in his church in Ephesus..yet Paul was the GO of those churches...was Paul a failure?

Titus was a Pastor with Paul as the GO... Was Paul a failure?

What about Polycarp?
Apollos?

Gombs:
You don't understand ministry, you don't have to insult it and ruin yourself consequentially


Jude 1:10-11
Living Bible (TLB)
10 But these men mock and curse at anything they do not understand, and like animals, they do whatever they feel like, thereby ruining their souls.
11 Woe upon them! For they follow the example of Cain who killed his brother;[size=20pt] and like Balaam, they will do anything for money[/size]; and like Korah, they have disobeyed God and will die under his curse.

idnoble135:
I think you will do well by abstaining from names calling. C'mon!

DrummaBoy:

Me and [size=32pt]Gombs[/size] come a long way!

shdemidemi:

The devil can give all these things too bro. The voice of the people isn't necessarily the voice of God.

idnoble135:
Like I'm seeing double. Erm... Please explain the bolded.

Demain_man:

Do you know how many people support MANCHESTER UNITED, a mere football club?
Most of those followers have been beaten black and blue by Nigeria terrible situation hence they are merely looking for miracle from that man. Majority of them will have their hopes dashed after parting with their hard earned money. It is called spiritual 419 sir

Gombs:

You compare the Church of God to a football club?

You dey try o!...do you know aw many Christian are around the world?

Watch your choice of words sir!

shdemidemi:

No prophet can see the full picture, all they can see is a shade. Only God has the full view, we must trust Him to lead us according to His purpose.

Gombs:

Oh Really?

If you don't believe he's genuine, believe for the works sake!

shdemidemi:

No prophet can see the full picture, all they can see is a shade. Only God has the full view, we must trust Him to lead us according to His purpose.

Demain_man:

Somebody also said rockstar can also pull crowds. and satan himself can also make one a crowd puller sir. It does not mean a thing!

shdemidemi: You are doing injustice to what the scriptures is saying. We are talking prophesies, you are talking mysteries of grace revealed.


It is a DANGEROUS thing to have an idea and decide to go to the scriptures for sole purpose of getting that idea endorsed – Bishop Noel Jones

Gombs:

Are Prophesies not a gift of the Holy Spirit?

Tell Bishop Jones that in Christianity, ALL ideas one should have Must be endorsed by the Bible, else it is not of God

shdemidemi:

May be u shld first realise prophecy in the epistles means teaching the word and not fore-telling.

You take truth from scriptures (exegesis), you don't force the scriptures to say what you think it should say (eisegesis). Thank you

shdemidemi:

May be u shld first realise prophecy in the epistles means teaching the word and not fore-telling.

You take truth from scriptures (exegesis), you don't force the scriptures to say what you think it should say (eisegesis). Thank you

shdemidemi: Ok sir

frosbel: ^^^

so which one is it , prophecy or prophesy ?

Gombs:

^^
One is a Verb, the other a Noun.

Bottomline is, you were wrong to say prophets don't have a full picture, only a shade

Whether na Prophecy o or Prophesy, all no be from the Holy Spirit?, same which knw the deep things of God, same which dwells in us...eh?

shdemidemi: The moment a supposed man of God says "god told me", he is indirectly saying no one can argue or ask questions or prove me wrong.

Demain_man:

Yes. My priest does not tell me that God say do this or that. I go to God myself.

frosbel:

Wrong.

In the early church, elders were appointed not heads, and they were to care for the sheep and bring them into maturity so that they themselves will become true disciples of Jesus.

Most Apostles were really travelling evangelists who went from city to city setting up churches ( not denominations ) and appointed elders in the plural.

Also , if you read Pauls letters, he never addressed them to the Pastor , it was always to the church , saints and elders.

There is only one head and that is Jesus, the rest are simply siblings each with his own ministry and gift which he must exercise for the benefit of the saints.

frosbel: Can someone tell me why Paul never addressed his letters to the Pastor ( if such a title even existed )




Ephesians 1
New International Version (NIV)
1 Paul, an apostle of Christ Jesus by the will of God,

To God’s holy people in Ephesus,[a] the faithful in Christ Jesus:

2 Grace and peace to you from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.



1 Paul, called to be an apostle of Christ Jesus by the will of God, and our brother Sosthenes,

2 To the church of God in Corinth, to those sanctified in Christ Jesus and called to be his holy people, together with all those everywhere who call on the name of our Lord Jesus Christ—their Lord and ours:

3 Grace and peace to you from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.



1 Paul, an apostle of Christ Jesus by the will of God, and Timothy our brother,

2 To God’s holy people in Colossae, the faithful brothers and sisters[a] in Christ:

Grace and peace to you from God our Father.[b]

DrummaBoy: The practice of having a head in a church is a veritable one. The problem now is what is this head appointed to do? The five fold ministry as we see in Ephesians 4 is a duty and not an office! They are to bring God's people to maturity!! If after years of discipleship, the people under a Pastor still need you to be "thus saying the Lord" to them, they cannot be said to have come to maturity and you have failed in your ministry.

This ministries are not instituted in the church in the sense of heading and that is why Peter warns against Lording it over the flock of the Lord; rather they are there to help God's people to grow.

Frosbel, asked earlier, who is daddy G O? In my article were criticized the 3KM by 3KM church auditorium the Redeemed Church is planning on the express (Lagos-Ibadan), I made it clear that if Daddy G O had been doing what he is supposed to be doing in all these years of ministering on the express, there will not be the need to continue to have people flock there every month for Holy Ghost night. The fact that he and others like him have failed in the ministry committed to hands, turning the ministry to a place where they are G O, more than a place were they should mature saints under them, is the reason why they need such a big auditorium today.

Christian ministry is service to the church and not a place to enjoy privilege or revel in position.

ajayikayod:

Dts not true. Prove all things, hold to dt which is good.