Dis is too bad..wanted 2 direct sum friends 2 Dis thread now Dis...its well...atleast mouth never die...!

Rhymeyjohn: Its a pity, the finished task has gone back to an unfinished state. God knows best.

Rhymey my brother, what's good? Oh, so drumb doesn't have it on his blog? Oya, bring your tithe receipt for the past six months drumb, lol. i may consider helping you.

DrummaBoy:

You can say it again.

How now Rhymejohn? I trust you are fine.

Yea, thanks, quite a while

Image123:

Rhymey my brother, what's good? Oh, so drumb doesn't have it on his blog? Oya, bring your tithe receipt for the past six months drumb, lol. i may consider helping you.

Oh, you mean drummaboy has an archive some where?, let him restore it here. Quite a while, how is life? blessings

Rhymeyjohn: Oh, you mean drummaboy has an archive some where?, let him restore it here. Quite a while, how is life? blessings

Unfortunately, I kept no records of the discussions. I took it for granted that the thread will always be there.

But nothing spoil; even up to this point, the issues have already been made clear about the tithing subject. God is able to give people whatever convictions they need on any subject in religion including tithing.

While I maintain my grouse with those who fleece people of their money in the name of tithing, I have no problem with anyone who tithes of his free will. I rest on Romans 14 now: To him who tithes, it is to the Lord he tithes and to him who doesn't to the Lord he does the same; God has accepted them all. Tithing is not a weighty issue in Christianity.

Join trustman and I as we discuss something that is weighty and for which I can split hairs: Word of Faith.

Rhymeyjohn: Oh, you mean drummaboy has an archive some where?, let him restore it here. Quite a while, how is life? blessings

Unfortunately, I kept no records of the discussions. I took it for granted that the thread will always be there.

But nothing spoil; even up to this point, the issues have already been made clear about the tithing subject. God is able to give people whatever convictions they need on any subject in religion including tithing.

While I maintain my grouse with those who fleece people of their money in the name of tithing, I have no problem with anyone who tithes of his free will. I rest on Romans 14 now: To him who tithes, it is to the Lord he tithes and to him who doesn't to the Lord he does the same; God has accepted them all. Tithing is not a weighty issue in Christianity.

Join trustman and I as we discuss something that is weighty and for which I can split hairs: Word of Faith.

www.nairaland.com/1790500/word-faith-movements-doctrine-proponents#24357598

DrummaBoy:

Unfortunately, I kept no records of the discussions. I took it for granted that the thread will always be there.

But nothing spoil; even up to this point, the issues have already been made clear about the tithing subject. God is able to give people whatever convictions they need on any subject in religion including tithing.

While I maintain my grouse with those who fleece people of their money in the name of tithing, I have no problem with anyone who tithes of his free will. I rest on Romans 14 now: To him who tithes, it is to the Lord he tithes and to him who doesn't to the Lord he does the same; God has accepted them all. Tithing is not a weighty issue in Christianity.

Join trustman and I as we discuss something that is weighty and for which I can split hairs: Word of Faith.

www.nairaland.com/1790500/word-faith-movements-doctrine-proponents#24357598

I remember asking you to let's extract both sides of the tithe debate and publish it into a book for the benefit of all. If only we had proceeded as suggested. too much work went into that debate too allow it to be lost too Seun's negligence.

Pastor Kun:
I remember asking you to let's extract both sides of the tithe debate and publishing it into a book for the benefit of all. If only we had proceeded as suggested. too much work went into that debate too allow it to be lost too Seun's negligence.

don't mind DrummaBoy jare.

@Pastor Kun, actually its not such a big deal. I believe a sincere seeker of truth about the practice of tithing will find it browsing through the 9 pages of the discussion left unaffected by the tsunami. Anyway, I have the contributions of Mark and i to this discussion in a folder somewhere on my system though I don't think I'm interested in uploading them again. Like I said earlier, if it's truth you want, its there in the remainder of the thread.

Pastor Kun:

I remember asking you to let's extract both sides of the tithe debate and publishing it into a book for the benefit of all. If only we had proceeded as suggested. too much work went into that debate too allow it to be lost too Seun's negligence.

I remember too o... chai, chai... if I had known but to hearken to the voice of an elder... dia ris God O

lol

But seriously Kun is right. I was just damn lazy... apologies.

DrummaBoy:

Unfortunately, I kept no records of the discussions. I took it for granted that the thread will always be there.

But nothing spoil; even up to this point, the issues have already been made clear about the tithing subject. God is able to give people whatever convictions they need on any subject in religion including tithing.

While I maintain my grouse with those who fleece people of their money in the name of tithing, I have no problem with anyone who tithes of his free will. I rest on Romans 14 now: To him who tithes, it is to the Lord he tithes and to him who doesn't to the Lord he does the same; God has accepted them all. Tithing is not a weighty issue in Christianity.

good, God answers prayer.

Image123:

good, God answers prayer.

This comment from you is wholly unnecasary because there is nothing different I said in what you quoted and what I have always maintained on this forum. For example, I refer you to the opening comment of this thread where I said, among other things:

The two groups are well prepared and shall be making their presentations in a matter of moment. We have made it clear that this is not a debate but a discussion, so that there shall be no winner nor looser. We trust God that the gain of this discuss will be people visiting this thread in the years to come to gain understanding on the whole matter of tithing. So that he that wishes to tithe still will continue to do so; and he that doesn’t will not feel condemened but will base his practice on sound scriptural positions as will be discussed.

Note the bolded.

Unfortunately you, and especially Bidam, have never been able to rid your minds of a bondage to competition and the desire to be proven right and seen to have won an argument. In the same OP I made it clear there will be no winner or looser. One Ukupt guy here went around and opened a thread that antithers have won the tithe argument on this forum after the discuss. Shdemidemi and I corrected him that the tithe debates, for us, is not aimed at winning but bringing understanding.

Before you rushed off thanking God for whatever reasons, you refused to see that I stated that my grouse will always be against those collecting tithes to fleece God's people. Which is the leading reason for tithe collecting in our clime anyway and the reason I cannot stop condemning the monetary tithes. But if you or some others do so for convictions wholly from God, good. I praise God for it and rejoice wholeheartedly for it.

My above statement you quoted has not subtracted from my position on tithes on this forum, neither has it reduced the argument Candour/Miwerds provided against tithing here.

God answers prayers still,

Wow... The thread lives on

Image123: God answers prayers still,

Image123: God answers prayers still,

Truly God answers prayers.......every time.

DrummaBoy:

Of course God answers prayers abi you doubt it

Candour:

Of course God answers prayers abi you doubt it

hmmmm, ask him oh. Where's Mark?

I have everything from the beginning of the Discuss up to Rebuttal of R8 saved in MSWord 2003 format.

MarkMiwerds: I have everything from the beginning of the Discuss up to Rebuttal of R8 saved in MSWord 2003 format.

Smiles!

Actually, this is my best smile for today.

Thank you mark.

I read through the nine pages from yesterday evening and i must say it's very well-researched and deep. Thanks to MarkMiwerds and Candour for their positions (which i share) and also to the opposing team, Image123 and Rhymeyjohn. I believe we're under grace now, and should give based on love motivation and not in monetary tithes as many of us have erroneously walked in over time. Also thanks to early proponents on nairaland like PastorKun,and thanks to Drummaboy for the effective moderation of the discuss to be free of spiteful comments and derailment. God bless you all.

Drummaboy,
Thank you for organizing this great piece of work.
Candour, Image thank you for your good work in contributing. It is sad that it has ended

vooks:
Drummaboy,
Thank you for organizing this great piece of work.
Candour, Image thank you for your good work in contributing. It is sad that it has ended

It's even more sad that Image123 learnt nothing despite all that was taught in the discussion.

PastorKun:


It's even more sad that Image123 learnt nothing despite all that was taught in the discussion.

lol.

Maybe the next topic to discuss will be between Image123 and PastorKun on "A Discussion on the Christian Faith Strictly between Image123 and PastorKun".

That will be the mother of all threads.

The dumbest excuse I have heard from image for tithing is, blessings come from various things such as prayer,charity and tithing and that nobody can refute this. I wonder whether they admit menstruating women to their congregation and what blessings come from that, or what the Spirit has led them to develop out of that and apply today.

And since they believe there is nothing wrong with keeping Feasts, why don't they keep them to secure whatever blessings accrue to these. Or circumcise their boys as well and fulfill all righteousness

WinsomeX:


lol.

Maybe the next topic to discuss will be between Image123 and PastorKun on "A Discussion on the Christian Faith Strictly between Image123 and PastorKun".

That will be the mother of all threads.

How do you expect me have a discussion on the Christian faith with someone who has no clue as to what the Christian faith is all about?

Sorry to interject.

I just think there are a lot of "Christians" who do not understand what Christ's death and Resurrection means.

We just have follow-follow "Christians" who cannot be bothered to search the scriptures like the Berean church and seek understanding.
What we have are people who just blow hot air by quoting scriptures out of context to suit their flawed arguments.

i'm not calling names. They know themselves.

Taking a principle of the law in isolation and trying in vain to make it look applicable in the dispensation of Grace.
Equating a Levite to their pastor, and the like.

Charlatanry seems to be the order of the day, even in the "church".

PastorKun:



How do you expect me have a discussion on the Christian faith with someone who has no clue as to what the Christian faith is all about?

you think image123 and his patners dont know the truth about tithe?, i dont think so, i believe they know the truth but are simply perpetual pretenders who try so hard to lie to their own conscience. No sane and rational human beign would make an argument of this magnitude without knowing the truth.

EMILO2STAY:
you think image123 and his patners dont know the truth about tithe?, i dont think so, i believe they know the truth but are simply perpetual pretenders who try so hard to lie to their own conscience. No sane and rational human beign would make an argument of this magnitude without knowing the truth.

Perhaps he is not sane.

vooks:
Drummaboy,
Thank you for organizing this great piece of work.
Candour, Image thank you for your good work in contributing. It is sad that it has ended

THANK YOU vooks

vooks:
The dumbest excuse I have heard from image for tithing is, blessings come from various things such as prayer,charity and tithing and that nobody can refute this. I wonder whether they admit menstruating women to their congregation and what blessings come from that, or what the Spirit has led them to develop out of that and apply today.

And since they believe there is nothing wrong with keeping Feasts, why don't they keep them to secure whatever blessings accrue to these. Or circumcise their boys as well and fulfill all righteousness

since the Bible says the Feasts were to be observed in Israel, I highly doubt they even keep the Feasts.

MarkMiwerds:
since the Bible says the Feasts were to be observed in Israel, I highly doubt they even keep the Feasts.

Good to read from you Mark, it's been quite an age.

PastorKun:


Good to read from you Mark, it's been quite an age.

it has been a while, my Brother. I am still boldly proclaiming the Truth.