Nigellus_Hosan:





there are sins which cannot be forgiven at all..



When u ruthlessly kill somebody in ur right mind..

U urself go know say God no go fit forgive u..
Because the blood of the innocent will rise up from the ground n cry against u in Judgement..



Someone like Hitler praying for God to forgive am..


U forget that the devil will also com n state reasons why u shouldn't b forgiven..


Wen next u want to gbagaun think first..



Oloriboorookoo..

Lord Nico: Morality is not connected to religion. We do not need religion to be good. Human morality has a Darwinian explanation: altruistic
genes, selected through the process of evolution, give people natural empathy.

Would you commit murder, rape or robbery if you knew that no
God existed? Only very few people would answer "yes", which undermines the claim that religion is needed to make us behave morally.

If you take a survey of the history of morality, you will find a moral Zeitgeist (the characteristic of an age) that continually evolves in society, generally progressing toward
liberalism. As it progresses, this moral consensus influences how religious leaders interpret their holy writings. In the past, with support from holy writings, it was okay to own slaves, to commit atrocities against prisoners of war, refuse rights to certain people based on race, culture etc, but in modern times, those acts are viewed as morally wrong.

Morality does not
originate from the Bible or any other holy book, rather our moral progress informs what part of the Bible Christians and other religious groups accept and
what they now dismiss.

Inspired by Richard Dawkins' "The God Delusion"

texanomaly:

He is well aware of the doctrinal preface here. He probably knows the text of the bible better than either of us. He does not believe in God. And he doesn't believe Jesus Christ is our Savior, or bridge of any kind. This type of explanation, and any number of scriptural references are bandied daily. They are not effective tools for convincing an atheist of anything. I'm not saying give up. I certainly won't. I care enough not to do that. I just think we Christians need some new material. I haven't figured out what that might be yet, but I'm not giving up.


@ LB
Morning

Joshthefirst: Your number 1 is good. But it contradicts itself. The question of morals always leads us to the implication of God.

I hope some foolish elements will learn from your number 1's first phrase:

"Morality is an innate part of every human being"

Deep Sight:

Exactly. And that is what they in fact do, poker faced, and without blinking.

Whenever you have the time, read this thread.

https://www.nairaland.com/1520806/evolution-morality

Read ALL of it.

begwong: Do we have atheist that are gay and lesbians?

ebamma: When the missionaries came to africa, the had the bible and we had the land and the said let us pray and when we opened our eyes,we had the bible and the had the land-Desmond tutu

Sheykul Islam: @ OP if i have a pen on my hand showing it to an athiest and i say its a book definately he will say its a pen because for him to know dat he must know what a pen or a book is. For an athiest to believe that God doesnt exist he must know who God is. So to the athiest who is God ? B4 u can deny his existence

rationalmind:

Only that I didn't tell you I subscribe to objective morality. I was only trying to call you out on your use of "they".

Nigellus_Hosan:





there are sins which cannot be forgiven at all..



When u ruthlessly kill somebody in ur right mind..

U urself go know say God no go fit forgive u..
Because the blood of the innocent will rise up from the ground n cry against u in Judgement..



Someone like Hitler praying for God to forgive am..


U forget that the devil will also com n state reasons why u shouldn't b forgiven..


Wen next u want to gbagaun think first..



Oloriboorookoo..

Lordlexyy: Thought you were smarter than that. What other material could be more convincing than the bible? Beside, it isn't in our place to try to convince them but to point out facts from the scriptures and how it relates to us. Those who want to believe will have an open to believe but those who choose not to even if an angel appear b4 them will always find reasons not to.

Logicboy03:


An atheist can be religious but atheism is not a religion.

Surely, you know that there's something bad with religion and so youwil tell the lie that atheism is a religion so that you can pull atheists down with you. Sorry, try harder.

Keluong:
Just to show that your morality is not solely from the bible.
I read the bible well you know, and looking at it objectively, its easy to tell that most of what you put there is from your common sense.
I know that you can prove its biblical, but only with a preset mindset of what you know is good, then scanning through the numerous verses of the bible and selecting a few verse that conforms with your views. Infact, thats how tithing was invented.

mumumugu:

HE IS NOT A MUMU. I AM

Keluong:
My mistake.
I did not read completely before my previous reply.

- Are you holier than hitler?
- What is all his devil talk? I find it hard to communicate with you guys when you begin to bring up stupid and unprovable assertions.
- why cant god not kill the devil/lock him up at least so that we, his creation will have one less thing to worry about?
- what do you mean by "gbagaun"? did I make a mistake anywhere, if I did, pls correct me.
Finally, why insult me?, my previous post wasnt directed to you

Riclord001:
So, if a man who had been takin drugs for malaria forces a kid with a similar fate to take such drugs, then somethin must b wrong with d drug for him2 av ensured such? Can‘t sum1 push anoda in2 doin thinz dat are beneficial

Nigellus_Hosan:





U're not obligated to pay tithes n offerings..
Nobody would jack ur clothes...



The poor widow paid her last dime..
U probably didn't read that..

Give unto God what belongs to him n unto Caesar wat belongs to him..


If after reading d whole bible
n u can't change..
Who can change u..

Logicboy03:


Bad analogy

Your religion causes more problems than it solves

Keluong:
Whats doing dis one?

what is funny?
I am not here to debate tithes.
It you conscience that caused you to lay emphasis on that.

The bible is mostly all about cherrypicking of verses from an already preset mindset
Get the main point
Get the main point.

Nigellus_Hosan:




Who insulted U
Can't u let thingz be..
Must u respond to every comment..

rationalmind:

What does it solve?

Oluwaseytiano: you are still living with ur head in the sand

Keluong:
Whats the meaning of "olooribooroko"?
That you are of low esteem and are used taking insults here on NL, doesnt mean everyone is okay with it

Nigellus_Hosan:



Don't quote me again

Logicboy03:

It solves the problem of poverty for pastors and religious leaders. It fills their pockets with tithes and offerings


Pope na enjoyment
Imam na gbaladun
-Fela

texanomaly:

I find Mr Troll's statement interesting. Many, not all, of the atheist here on NL were raised as Christians, by their own admission. They have no personal evidence that this particular hypothesis has any scientific credence. How would they know? The fact that they are atheist now, does not negate the fact they spent their formative years as Christians. Mr Troll, weather you like, it or not, your current value system and morality are based on a Christian upbringing. There is no escaping it. Somewhere in your subconscious, are those values you learned as a child. How can you differentiate from whence your value system is derived.

moderatorr: Education teaches us the laws of probability and chance. its just impossible to believe that someone can look at 7 billion homo sapiens alive on earth today and call it 'chance'.
"Even the hairs on your head are counted" - Bible
if you dont believe in God, its your problem. God is not affected.

moderatorr: Education teaches us the laws of probability and chance. its just impossible to believe that someone can look at 7 billion homo sapiens alive on earth today and call it 'chance'.
"Even the hairs on your head are counted" - Bible
if you dont believe in God, its your problem. God is not affected.