coogar:
shouting is verbal abuse!
you are the one clueless about what verbal abuse entails. show us one link where it's written a shouting match between partners isn't verbal abuse.

ileobatojo:
Do you know the difference between verbal conflict and verbal abuse?

coogar:

hahahahaha....
ileobatojo, stop arguing jare. shouting is verbal abuse. verbal conflict & verbal abuse are just terminologies. if you shout at your partner @ anytime, it's an abuse.

read that article & learn....

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1350761/Women-entitled-council-house-partner-shouts.html

i could be thrown out of my own house if i shout at my girlfriend. why should that be if it's not an abuse?

coogar:

tpia@, can you cook?

ileobatojo:
Nice try.

Here's the judge's defence for their ruling.
"Lady Hale said that according to the dictionary, violence means physical attack, but can also apply to extreme fervour, passion or fury."

and

"Lady Hale, leading a bench of five justices, said the definition of violence must change so that a range of abusive behaviour now counts in law."


I fail to see where it says all shouting is abuse.

tpia@:

No i cant, why do you ask?

coogar:
Men and women who shout at their partners risk being thrown out of their homes under a sweeping ruling by judges yesterday.

Raising your voice at a husband or wife, or a boyfriend or girlfriend, now counts as domestic violence under the landmark Supreme Court judgment.

ileobatojo:
The above statements are the daily mail's spin on the news. It is not what the judge herself said or meant. Her words and meaning are clear. You left the original source of information and focused on the pointless distractions to try to prove your point. Not impressive.

Here, educate yourself and read the ACTUAL judgement of the case which includes the details of the case. You will clearly see that this was not a case of 'just shouting' at your spouse and the judgement is not about 'just shouting' at your spouse.

http://www.bailii.org/uk/cases/UKSC/2011/3.html

Thank goodness Lady Hale has never set foot in our home, or I'd be sleeping under Blackfriars Bridge tonight. I am, you see, guilty of domestic violence: I shout at my husband on a regular basis, with everything from accusations ("You slob!" to threats ("I'm going to throw that Blackberry out of the window!".

I blame my Italian upbringing, which means my normal mode of speech is somewhere between excited yelps and high-pitched hysteria. It's tiring and tiresome for my nearest and dearest, no doubt; but I never thought it was an act of aggression. Until Lady Hale, that is: now I know that my behaviour is not only abusive, it is downright criminal, and could cost me my home and my freedom.

This judge is an äss! (And I'm not afraid to shout it, at the top of my lungs!) As anyone who's ever been to Italy or India will tell you, shouting is a cultural thing. Given the din of everyday life in certain countries, everyone from a working class wife to a high-paid industrialist shouts simply to make themselves heard.

Foreigners will take a shrill voice as proof of anger or aggression; natives know better: how else to drown out the roaring of the Vespa or the backfire of the rickshaw? Sensitive Anglo Saxon ears may be unaccustomed to noisy exchanges; I remember an English friend, at lunch in the bosom of an Italian family, sitting silently petrified as Mamma and Papa shouted at one another. "Gosh, why do they hate each other so?!" she asked me afterwards to interpret. "They don't hate each other at all" I explained, " they were only comparing notes on what they'd been doing in the morning."

Lady Hale's decision betrays real ignorance. Not only of cultural differences but of domestic violence itself. If this judge thinks a shouted response amounts to battering a spouse, she's never encountered the real thing: once you've seen a woman with a black and blue body, or a man with a bloodied eye, you know what domestic abuse is. To rank a raised voice with this is an insult to the victims of real violence. Shame!

coogar:

this is the reaction of a female journalist about lady hale's ruling from daily telegraph....

ileobatojo:
LMAO!! You do realize you are NOW arguing my own position that shouting at a spouse does not automatically equal verbal abuse? You have side stepped and weaved your way around facts so much that you have ended up on my side of the argument and are now arguing against yourself? Good lord, you are pointless!

Good bye. I'm done.

tintingz: Na waa oo! Ele yii lagbara oo

Coogar and ileobatojo can argue ehn, is like when obama and oprah they debate ya'll know how it gonna be...the argument will never end

Both of you(coogar & ile) should be like this





As you guys can see me and kulyie no dey argue much like before again

kulyie: lobatan


*faints *

what a combo

de beauvoir nko? the bone in your throat :p

LOL...as for her am waiting for her to return from the feminism activism camp so that we can settle things out peacefully

deols:

hmmmn.lol. I am not surprised you are on this thread.

I relate with such threads as this, putting myself in the woman's position.

Such will not happen to me o(since i won't marry a bush man) but just imagine that he turns bushy I no go gree o..lailai.

He will have to go back to his own parents too. To learn how to deal with a woman

On a serious note, couples should learn about each other b4 marriage. Once married, there is no going anywhere, no third parties until one thinks divorce or dies. His actions are so juvenile..very silly..They will become entertainment for the whole village.

Mothers will keep telling their daughters to be careful of ending up like the wife and to avoid men like the husband. Their children would be taunted by the stories.

kulyie: from what?

some nairalanders never cease to amaze and amuse me.any small thing,she needs deliverance


is it by force every body must share your own school of thought or agree to every thing you say? Nawa o

so because your views clash na,she needs deliverance? You sef need spiritual cleansing.go to the bar beach with cele pastor,let them use concortion water and baff your head in the beach for spiritual purification

kulyie: gbam! You have said it all.kojubelo.

Your head is too correct jare

katsim: It is wrong to do that, love bears all things believe all things, and love never end. He should try and teach her that is why your are a man. Please for God s sake call her back don't give devil a chance in your home remember God called her weaker V so be with her

Miner13:

ọjọgbọn birin kuyiẹ kilo tan?

Don't tel me you are a fan of the weed family.
If not somebody just get her senses erupt abnormally then you stamp it.
You just disappointed me in that respect

Miner13:

And how can this spiritual cleansing for spiritual purification be a total justification for absolute libration from mental dellusion

Miner13:

And how can this spiritual cleansing for spiritual purification be a total justification for absolute libration from mental dellusion

tintingz: LOL...as for her am waiting for her to return from the feminism activism camp so that we can settle things out peacefully

kulyie: who you dey rap for ?

chaircover:

So a man earning 60K-70k a month should not marry . . . .

Then you now wonder why a man earning 5 million a month man cannot send the woman back home to her parents when he is fed up of her. . .

Sisi Kulyie dont let real hard core feminists see what you wrote o!

chaircover:

So a man earning 60K-70k a month should not marry . . . .

Then you now wonder why a man earning 5 million a month man cannot send the woman back home to her parents when he is fed up of her. . .

Sisi Kulyie dont let real hard core feminists see what you wrote o!

chaircover:

So a man earning 50K a month should not marry . . . .

Then you now wonder why a man earning 5 million a month man cannot send the woman back home to her parents when he is fed up of her. . .

Sisi Kulyie dont let real hard core feminists see what you wrote o!

coogar:

feminists choose when it's convenient to be strong & when it's convenient to be a blood sucking parasite.

no lady would agree to marry a man earning a low wage but men are marrying women regardless of her status.

sex equality? yea right!

babygirlfl: My opinion

Was the woman wrong for always shouting at the husband ? Yes. Shouting is a very bad way of communicating.

Was the man wrong for sending her to her parents? Yes.
I cry for our people because marriage in Africa is no longer about love but who is head and who should submit and how to be a woman with manners. If only we could teach couple how to love each other all these issues will not be there.

kulyie: coogar,i am being realistic,objective and balanced here,its not about petty sentiments,put sentiments aside.i dont support that anyone should be a leech on any body but for goodness sakes add value to yourself so that you will be able to add value to your partner,she too add value to you,that way you get to complement each other,jeez!

Miner13:

are you sure kulyie make up this statement on this thread on somewhere?. Because i can't find it

Kulyie you get this to answer