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Re: If Adam And Eve Were Whites, Where Did The Blacks Came From? by LordReed(m): 7:59pm On Aug 03, 2014 |
plaetton: Don't get it twisted. The issue here is RACE not geographical origin. Life originated in Africa is not equal to our progenitors being negroid. The theory of evolution does not teach that the progenitors of mankind were negroid. If I am mistaken please post here a link to that specific information. |
Re: If Adam And Eve Were Whites, Where Did The Blacks Came From? by LordReed(m): 8:01pm On Aug 03, 2014 |
Fulaman198: What is the geneticist's name I can't watch the video. |
Re: If Adam And Eve Were Whites, Where Did The Blacks Came From? by Fulaman198(m): 8:01pm On Aug 03, 2014 |
LordReed: I wish you would watch the video I linked earlier, then you would understand that what you are saying is completely incorrect. DNA samples were taking from all over the world, and it was found that people who tend to be darker (parts of the Arab World, India, and the Melanisians in the pacific islands like Papua New Guinea or the Aborigine peoples) are older than people who have less amounts of melanin. Africans obviously had the oldest DNA. I don't know why some Africans deny the obvious. |
Re: If Adam And Eve Were Whites, Where Did The Blacks Came From? by Joel3(m): 8:01pm On Aug 03, 2014 |
Fulaman198:what is your take of a God? or how do you defined your God. Are we humans not God? We created the things found on the earth. Build the earth properly. Control the earth, control the things found on the earth, build jet and houses, build weapons and electronic devices. we can destroy the earth if we want to. Are we not God? 1 Like |
Re: If Adam And Eve Were Whites, Where Did The Blacks Came From? by Fulaman198(m): 8:01pm On Aug 03, 2014 |
LordReed: Spencer Wells http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spencer_Wells |
Re: If Adam And Eve Were Whites, Where Did The Blacks Came From? by diamondpaul(m): 8:02pm On Aug 03, 2014 |
Was there any adam and eve self? mtcheww |
Re: If Adam And Eve Were Whites, Where Did The Blacks Came From? by Fulaman198(m): 8:06pm On Aug 03, 2014 |
Joel3: what is your take of a God? or how do you defined your God. Interesting questions throughout. I believe that God exists, but this will offend Muslims (which I don't care). I don't really associate myself with any religion so to say (yes I was born a Muslim). I see human beings as the greatest creation of God, they are able to adapt, create and form things that no other animals/species can create. As generations pass by, newer and newer technological and scientific innovations come into play. It is amazing how human beings instead of remaining static are a very dynamic people. Lions have always been the same since the beginning of time, Human beings have continued to evolve. All creatures except humans have remained the same since their inception. That is why I consider us the greatest creation of God. We are not Gods because we are not immortal, we can be physically injured by just about any animal in existence (if we do not have weapons). We are prone to disease (some of which do not have vaccines yet). I could go on and on. Human beings are amazing creatures, but we are definitely not God. 1 Like |
Re: If Adam And Eve Were Whites, Where Did The Blacks Came From? by Fulaman198(m): 8:07pm On Aug 03, 2014 |
diamondpaul: Was there any adam and eve self? mtcheww Another excellent question |
Re: If Adam And Eve Were Whites, Where Did The Blacks Came From? by Joel3(m): 8:08pm On Aug 03, 2014 |
Fulaman198: I mean the house cat itself are of different breed. Like rat we have small rat medium rat and big rat. they all have the same shape, brain, DNA, everything but of different type. We have spanish apple, we have africa apple, we have red apple, we have green apple and white apple. |
Re: If Adam And Eve Were Whites, Where Did The Blacks Came From? by Fulaman198(m): 8:14pm On Aug 03, 2014 |
Joel3: That's very true, but they are still vastly different and considered a subspecies. What you are implying here are different species. Human beings are of one species with different ethnicities and ethnic groups. An example is the African Elephant and Asian Elephant, they are both elephants, but they are different species of Elephant. |
Re: If Adam And Eve Were Whites, Where Did The Blacks Came From? by LordReed(m): 8:22pm On Aug 03, 2014 |
Fulaman198: Understand my point very well. Our progenitors started in Africa does not mean they are what we would call negroid now. That is not denying anything except to tell you that the concept of race is a more recent distinction than the origins of man. Here is an excerpt from the Wikipedia page of Spencer's book It is believed, on the basis of genetic evidence, that all human beings in existence now descend from one single man who lived in Africa about 60,000 years ago. [2] The earliest groups of humans are believed to find their present-day descendants among the San people, a group that is now found in western southern Africa . The San are smaller than the Bantu. They have lighter skins, more tightly curled hair, and they share the epicanthal fold with the people of Central Asian SouthEast Asia, such as the white people and black people . These are the closest linked descendants have non-standard negroid features. |
Re: If Adam And Eve Were Whites, Where Did The Blacks Came From? by Fulaman198(m): 8:26pm On Aug 03, 2014 |
LordReed: Then why do the 'negroids' or those close to the complexion of Negroid tend to have more in common with the ancient African ancestor. According to Spencer Wells, Ph.D. Geneticist the oldest people currently living are the Khoisan group of people. They still live the original/traditional way human beings did tens of thousands of years ago as hunter gatherers. |
Re: If Adam And Eve Were Whites, Where Did The Blacks Came From? by LordReed(m): 8:29pm On Aug 03, 2014 |
Fulaman198: Sorry look at my previous answer. I edited it. |
Re: If Adam And Eve Were Whites, Where Did The Blacks Came From? by Fulaman198(m): 8:33pm On Aug 03, 2014 |
LordReed: There is no such thing as negroid features. Most San people resemble Nelson Mandela (who I'm sure has a lot of San/Khoisan DNA). Fyi, San and Khoisan are one in the same. I stay away from terminology like "negroid features" because such a thing does not truly exist. In Nigeria alone, there are many ethnic groups with all different sorts of features, yet we are all black, right? The same goes for Senegalese, Malians, Ghanaian people, Beninese, etc. Black people are not a monolith, I know some people on Nairaland do not understand this (not talking about you). But no one will say that the Khoisan are not black despite some of them having "Asiatic" eyes resembling those of Chinese people and curly hair resembling those of "Africans/Blacks" |
Re: If Adam And Eve Were Whites, Where Did The Blacks Came From? by LordReed(m): 8:45pm On Aug 03, 2014 |
Fulaman198: Very good. If the progenitors have features like the Chinese and Europeans on what basis are they negroid/black then? The genetic trail reveals that the differentiation is a result of possible mutations in DNA. So the progenitors could not have been "negroid" simply because such a distinction could not have existed then. Again here is what the Wikipedia page on Spencer's book says: The African diaspora is believed to have begun some 50,000 years ago, long enough for many changes to have occurred in humans remaining in Africa. 1 Like |
Re: If Adam And Eve Were Whites, Where Did The Blacks Came From? by plaetton: 8:57pm On Aug 03, 2014 |
LordReed: Well, pardon me sir! Are you disputing or questioning the fact that the first humans were Negroid? On what iota of historical, archeological or scientific basis are you disputing or questioning this fact? 2 Likes |
Re: If Adam And Eve Were Whites, Where Did The Blacks Came From? by LordReed(m): 9:02pm On Aug 03, 2014 |
plaetton: Is there any where anyone teaching human evolution says our progenitors were negroid (as distinct from originating in Africa)? If there is I want a link. 1 Like |
Re: If Adam And Eve Were Whites, Where Did The Blacks Came From? by plaetton: 9:34pm On Aug 03, 2014 |
LordReed: Huh? 4 Likes |
Re: If Adam And Eve Were Whites, Where Did The Blacks Came From? by LordReed(m): 9:45pm On Aug 03, 2014 |
plaetton: What is unclear about my question? Post a link that says that human progenitors were negroid as opposed to merely saying they originated in Africa. My submission is you won't find such a link because such racial distinctions as Negroid, Caucasoid or Mongoloid did not exist at that time. 1 Like |
Re: If Adam And Eve Were Whites, Where Did The Blacks Came From? by HFOG(f): 9:53pm On Aug 03, 2014 |
LordReed:I'm derailing. Forgive me in advance. Big brother I think you know it's not fair ko? I will tell for you |
Re: If Adam And Eve Were Whites, Where Did The Blacks Came From? by LordReed(m): 9:58pm On Aug 03, 2014 |
HFOG: Hey sis no vex for me na. Which thread you wan make we yarn on top? 1 Like |
Re: If Adam And Eve Were Whites, Where Did The Blacks Came From? by HFOG(f): 10:07pm On Aug 03, 2014 |
LordReed:You decide sir. |
Re: If Adam And Eve Were Whites, Where Did The Blacks Came From? by plaetton: 1:35am On Aug 04, 2014 |
LordReed: Huh!! Get off that cheap Weed, LordReed! |
Re: If Adam And Eve Were Whites, Where Did The Blacks Came From? by LordReed(m): 4:00am On Aug 04, 2014 |
plaetton: Here we go again.... Can you or can you not provide a link? We can talk economics of weed after you answer this simple question. 2 Likes |
Re: If Adam And Eve Were Whites, Where Did The Blacks Came From? by mstik(f): 4:11am On Aug 04, 2014 |
genetic mutation, I think ...... or did the whites originate from the blacks Op, who told you that Adam and Eve were white? It's the white man that depicts them as such sha 1 Like |
Re: If Adam And Eve Were Whites, Where Did The Blacks Came From? by plaetton: 4:12am On Aug 04, 2014 |
LordReed: With all due respect sir, it's kinda hard to answer a question that doesn't make any sense. That's the hint I that have been politely trying to get across. 1 Like |
Re: If Adam And Eve Were Whites, Where Did The Blacks Came From? by LordReed(m): 4:28am On Aug 04, 2014 |
plaetton: How doesn't it make sense? I clearly stated that what we call negroid did not exist at the dawn of man, refute me with a link. How is this senseless please? 1 Like |
Re: If Adam And Eve Were Whites, Where Did The Blacks Came From? by plaetton: 6:46am On Aug 04, 2014 |
LordReed: What did exist at the dawn of man?. We both agree that humankind first walked the Earth in Africa, the Continent of Negroid people. Commonsense would imply that the first humans originating from Africa would have had what we call Negroid physical features. Now, if you disagree with this proposition, as you have been doing so far, then it is up to you to say or show what existed as opposed to Negroid humans at the dawn of human civilization. In other words, if you say that the first humans were not Negroids, then what else could they have been or were they? The term "Negroid" are characteristic physical features. To say that Negroid features were not present in Africa at the beginning of human civilization is a statement that makes absolutely no sense, unless of course, you have evidence, or something more than just your incongruent and contradictory statements. 4 Likes |
Re: If Adam And Eve Were Whites, Where Did The Blacks Came From? by LordReed(m): 8:07am On Aug 04, 2014 |
plaetton: Dear plaetton I suppose you know more about human evolutionary theory than me so it won't be hard for you to shut me up with a scientific article stating that our progenitors were negroid. I humbly submit that I have searched and did not find it stated by scientists. Even the man who popularized the Caucasoid/Negroid classification proposed that the branches all developed independently so please provide me more reading material. *edited* 1 Like |
Re: If Adam And Eve Were Whites, Where Did The Blacks Came From? by coolzeal(m): 8:32am On Aug 04, 2014 |
The basic fact is, most humans now believe civilization started in Africa after discovering the oldest remains or fossils. The ancient text or the ancient African Egyptian text which is way older than the history of the bible explain the theories that man came from space as a form of transport. The European is an hybrid, a genetic modification or gene splicing of human and animal specie. So tell me, who am i suppose to believe? The ancient Africans or some bunch of white supremacist called Charles Darwin, whom stated that, human came from apes but he can't prove black people came from apes. There's no history of the European that's above 6000 years and that's the beginning of the bible. Since Adam and Eve were the only human on earth and they gave birth to Cain and Abel. Cain killed Abel and flew to a city. My question to Christian fanatics or perhaps ask your pastors.., How come there's another city where he chooses his wife and besides you can't have a city without people in it. Where they hell did those people come from? 1 Like |
Re: If Adam And Eve Were Whites, Where Did The Blacks Came From? by tpia1: 9:56am On Aug 04, 2014 |
Is there a need to insult people just because you prefer to be linked with apes? |
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