Martian:

May your magical jew prevent me from "ja sita".

tpia1:


amen o.

nl can only do so much.

Martian:

And may I die very soon, so that i can have some relief from my miserable existence.

I'll then be free from from my "ja sita"

drstan: the quest for knowledge that is what is destroying the whole world,

Martian:

Martian always dies, riding chariots of dung into NeverNeverland as a slave.


I am always a slave and have ja sita in addition to that.

Martian:

martian's brother ja sita long ago

Martian: Okay, I'm done for the day. Let me go ja sita since nl is not helping

Martian:

Tpia's brother in self righteous ignorance.

drstan: who are you to question your creator,His deeds, actions, spoken words, ? Be careful! The reason He (God) harden pharoah heart is best known to God, may be is even for your own good, you don't know, so stop questioning the unquestionable God, you know what He(God) ask job, when job was questioning God right? If job was unable to answer so stop the questioning! And face the important things of your life, the quest for knowledge that is what is destroying the whole world, wish adam and eve did not eat the fruit of knowledge, oh! How peaceful the world will be.

drstan: who are you to question your creator,His deeds, actions, spoken words, ? Be careful! The reason He (God) harden pharoah heart is best known to God, may be is even for your own good, you don't know, so stop questioning the unquestionable God, you know what He(God) ask job, when job was questioning God right? If job was unable to answer so stop the questioning! And face the important things of your life, the quest for knowledge that is what is destroying the whole world, wish adam and eve did not eat the fruit of knowledge, oh! How peaceful the world will be.

Itusco:

God forbid that i question the unquestionable God.. But sometimes, we need clarification on controversial issues like this to strengthen our faith. Thank you all for your responses, what im going to conclude is that.. God was really bitter with Pharaoh and his people for their harsh treatment of his children. on that note, they all got what they deserved. may we never see the wrath of the creator of Heaven and Earth, the one who was, who is and who is to come. The author and the finisher of our faith!

Xcapist:

Brother let's not conclude just yet. I admire you for asking. God shouldn't be angry when we try to understand his nature better, and how do we know when we aren't curious enough to ask? A stage should come when your faith should be able to handle anything.

God created pharaoh so that he can harden his heart and destroy him to display his glory. Why? Simply because he can and wants to. If we delve into Romans 9 we'll see how "unjust" God’s really is. He picks favorites "even before the foundations of the world were laid" and he created people like me and Martian so that he will eventually destroy us and put us in eternal hell forever, not because we essentially wrong him but because it gives the sadistic mess he is deep pleasure.

drstan: who are you to question your creator,His deeds, actions, spoken words, ? Be careful! The reason He (God) harden pharoah heart is best known to God, may be is even for your own good, you don't know, so stop questioning the unquestionable God, you know what He(God) ask job, when job was questioning God right? If job was unable to answer so stop the questioning! And face the important things of your life, the quest for knowledge that is what is destroying the whole world, wish adam and eve did not eat the fruit of knowledge, oh! How peaceful the world will be.

UyiIredia: The contextual meaning of God hardening Pharoah's heart was that God made Pharaoh more determined to refuse to let the Jews leave by his message and actions; not that God messed with Pharoah's free-will. In fact, I strongly doubt that there's any case in the Bible of God tampering with someone's free-will.

macof:

And then do we really have freewill with a personality like the Bible's God?

UyiIredia: The contextual meaning of God hardening Pharoah's heart was that God made Pharaoh more determined to refuse to let the Jews leave by his message and actions; not that God messed with Pharoah's free-will. In fact, I strongly doubt that there's any case in the Bible of God tampering with someone's free-will.

Xcapist:

This my brother is trying to say that water is not water but it's H₂O.

macof:

And then do we really have freewill with a personality like the Bible's God?

UyiIredia:

Then I'm on safe ground because both H2O and 'water' describe the same thing though in different ways.

Xcapist:

Exactly, bro, both are saying that God hardened the heart of pharaoh. That's what the bible said after all, so you're not far from the mark.

wiegraf: kayi....

UyiIredia:

I dont recall any atheist being struck down by lightning fore denying God. The Bible in Ecclesiastes confirms that God lets both rain and sun, fortunes and misfortunes on the just and unjust so it's safe tio assume that God granted men freedom of will.

macof:

And wats to say the Bible God has the power to strike anybody with lightening?
Am talking About the Bible God so keep it in the Bible

You know how many times the Bible God had commissioned attacks against those that didn't worship it?