cjrane:


Dude,
I don't need you to respect me. I get a lot of it amongst people that matter.
Now, i will repeat again incase you missed this from my previous posts. I am here to engage constructively with other TRUE Igbo people. I will not be afraid nor cowed by your threat to withdraw your "respect". Whatever that is worth. I am not here to be respected by any faceless person.[
I am here to rub minds with others to ponder the Igbo position in this unfortunate country and articulate the way forward.

And the way to go about this is to ostracize people who would likely serve as spies in the event of another scuffle with the north? You sure are brilliant!

cjrane:


Dude,
I don't need you to respect me. I get a lot of it amongst people that matter.
Now, i will repeat again incase you missed this from my previous posts. I am here to engage constructively with other TRUE Igbo people. I will not be afraid nor cowed by your threat to withdraw your "respect". Whatever that is worth. I am not here to be respected by any faceless person.
I am here to rub minds with others to ponder the Igbo position in this unfortunate country and articulate the way forward.

uduokirika1:


by stigmatizing your fellow brothers for derailing instead of calling them to order and correcting them abi? so much for a "TRUE ARTICULATE IGBO"

If you had understood my stance i was pleading that the stigmatization was long over due, and not your Arabic caricature of a comment with respect to what happened days ago!!!!!!!!

As for the respect I have for you- ----------------------still booting---------------------

Nnewi1stSon:
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And the way to go about this is to ostracize people who would likely serve as spies in the event of another scuffle with the north? You sure are brilliant!

Zonacom:

Nwanne, when is Giwa going to host Gabros in jos? I'm in town and wouldn't wanna miss that "El classico" for any reason

uduokirika1:


Gabros are Home against Dolphins after the window period before engaging Giwa in Rang Pam stadium a week later. I will try get the actual date and time.

Zonacom:

Ok. l hope to watch the Rwang pam encounter. Something tells me the match will be a cracker. Meanwhile, whats up with the Kaita lone deal? Has it been sealed?

uduokirika1:


Kaita is currently with Gabros in Camp at Ihiala, though Rangers are still making case, lets see what happens after the window break.

Nnewi1stSon:
Were you not the same guy that created a thread barely 24 hours ago renouncing tribalism? Where do you fall on the matter?

Unemadu:


Translation: my friend, how is your wife?
Nothing tribal there

Nnewi1stSon:
Were you not the same guy that created a thread barely 24 hours ago renouncing tribalism? Where do you fall on the matter?

asha80:
Lol..as much as I think cjrane went a bit too far I understand where he is coming from..an experience I had in owerri 10yrs ago explains it..we were entering a viewing center and there was some disagreement btw the owner of the event center and an imsu student who obviously was and born and brought up in Lagos and his name is Igbo was from the exchanges I was hearing..then those of us who knew the owner of the place prevailed on him to allow the student want the match and a friend I was with paid for the student..then instead of the imsu student to just relax and watch match he started this small opening raking and ranting for about one minute...nobody talked to him only for him to end the raking with shouting some Yoruba sentences(like the ones you hear area boys drop at times in Lagos )..

O boy want happened next

cjrane:


Asha,
I am personally not against people taking pride in other African languages. I speak yoruba very well. You just have to have a good sense of person, so that you can see what is better to emulate from other cultures and what is better in your own culture than the new culture. So that you don't copy wholesale and blindly. If you cannot see anything good about yourself, then you'd be a rolling stone and object of ridicule to others. In a way our younger generation have no sense of who they are and what forces have been shaping their lives. This is what concerns me the most.

As a person, i also believe in compromise just to let things be.However, I soon realized that i had actually learned this attitude from my parents as Igbo people! I soon asked my parents and others why they had this laid-back attitude of not speaking out against evil, and they said "The War"
Then, they refused to talk about "the war". My father, a former Biafran soldier, did recommend 2 books; "Nigerian revolution and the Biafran war" by Alex Madiebo, so that i could see the true sequence of the tragic events and the dairy of Ojukwu published as " Selected speeches & random thoughts" to understand the desperation of the time and why nobody wished to recall those days in stories.I had since added Faraway in the sky, an account of an American missionary and the legendary Chinua Achebe's personal account "There was a country".

These four books are a must for our youths to get a peek into why Nigeria is how it is and why we must change the tactics we have used in reacting to this oppression that started on May 27th, 1967. Unfortunately, nobody can find the time to tell you these facts unless you disciplined yourself to read and find out for yourself. I recommend these books especially to Chino and Abagworo. It will help them understand who they are and how others see them....and most importantly how to reason in order to see they are actually on the same side!

My point is that we tend to be afraid of speaking out against what we know in our hearts to be false for fear of being disrespected, labeled "Igbotic",illiterate, "tribalistic" or worse. While our adversaries donot hesitate to play the ethnic or religion card when it suits their cause.The reason why many more Igbos died in the second pogrom was simply that naivety of thought that we are all the same, "One Nigeria" and they see me as i see them.So i can call katsina my hometown and invest all my life savings there. What tragic fallacy!
The result of the acceptance of the so called "One Nigeria" heresy carefully sculpted to appear innocent so that our people now adopt the narratives and concoctions of their enemies as solemn facts! The first pogrom against the Igbo was spontaneous following the killing of Ironsi as a punishment for the "Igbo coup" that brought him to power, while the second pogrom was planned and systemic massacre only comparable in scale to the Rwanda massacre of Tutsis. The reason why it happened so successfully?......Disastrous underestimation of the intent of the people we call "Fellow" Nigerians. That is why Igbos have continued to invest all their money in god forsaken parts of the north and elsewhere trusting on the benevolence of those folks, just as our parents disastrously did just in the 1960s. The tragedy of it is that our people will believe they are from Kano or elsewhere simply because they were born there and speak hausa fluently just like Musa and Jibril that were born in the same hospital as them. Only for the facts to hit them at some point when they are treated differently! Just as our parents learned the hard way.
I know i have not made my point clearly in black and white, but it was deliberately intended to be fuzzy. So that people that can read between the lines and search the truth for themselves.

cjrane:


Asha,
I am personally not against people taking pride in other African languages. I speak yoruba very well. You just have to have a good sense of person, so that you can see what is better to emulate from other cultures and what is better in your own culture than the new culture. So that you don't copy wholesale and blindly. If you cannot see anything good about yourself, then you'd be a rolling stone and object of ridicule to others. In a way our younger generation have no sense of who they are and what forces have been shaping their lives. This is what concerns me the most.

As a person, i also believe in compromise just to let things be.However, I soon realized that i had actually learned this attitude from my parents as Igbo people! I soon asked my parents and others why they had this laid-back attitude of not speaking out against evil, and they said "The War"
Then, they refused to talk about "the war". My father, a former Biafran soldier, did recommend 2 books; "Nigerian revolution and the Biafran war" by Alex Madiebo, so that i could see the true sequence of the tragic events and the dairy of Ojukwu published as " Selected speeches & random thoughts" to understand the desperation of the time and why nobody wished to recall those days in stories.I had since added Faraway in the sky, an account of an American missionary and the legendary Chinua Achebe's personal account "There was a country".

These four books are a must for our youths to get a peek into why Nigeria is how it is and why we must change the tactics we have used in reacting to this oppression that started on May 27th, 1967. Unfortunately, nobody can find the time to tell you these facts unless you disciplined yourself to read and find out for yourself. I recommend these books especially to Chino and Abagworo. It will help them understand who they are and how others see them....and most importantly how to reason in order to see they are actually on the same side!

My point is that we tend to be afraid of speaking out against what we know in our hearts to be false for fear of being disrespected, labeled "Igbotic",illiterate, "tribalistic" or worse. While our adversaries donot hesitate to play the ethnic or religion card when it suits their cause.The reason why many more Igbos died in the second pogrom was simply that naivety of thought that we are all the same, "One Nigeria" and they see me as i see them.So i can call katsina my hometown and invest all my life savings there. What tragic fallacy!
The result of the acceptance of the so called "One Nigeria" heresy carefully sculpted to appear innocent so that our people now adopt the narratives and concoctions of their enemies as solemn facts! The first pogrom against the Igbo was spontaneous following the killing of Ironsi as a punishment for the "Igbo coup" that brought him to power, while the second pogrom was planned and systemic massacre only comparable in scale to the Rwanda massacre of Tutsis. The reason why it happened so successfully?......Disastrous underestimation of the intent of the people we call "Fellow" Nigerians. That is why Igbos have continued to invest all their money in god forsaken parts of the north and elsewhere trusting on the benevolence of those folks, just as our parents disastrously did just in the 1960s. The tragedy of it is that our people will believe they are from Kano or elsewhere simply because they were born there and speak hausa fluently just like Musa and Jibril that were born in the same hospital as them. Only for the facts to hit them at some point when they are treated differently! Just as our parents learned the hard way.
I know i have not made my point clearly in black and white, but it was deliberately intended to be fuzzy. So that people that can read between the lines and search the truth for themselves.

investnow2013:
I thought that He is from Abia-State, but was told that he is from Anambra-State!

ChimaAdeoye:


One hopes they are able to replace all the old buildings in main market with modern buildings. Also, making space for eateries or relaxation places in those buildings. The absence of abundant eateries or decent restaurants inside decent buildings with cleanliness of the restaurant environment to the level of at least Mr. Biggs, makes visiting main market an unpleasant event even for the locals. Visiting Onitsha main market should actually be developed into a tourist level activity that should be pleasurable to do by visitors to the city.

cjrane:


Asha,
I am personally not against people taking pride in other African languages. I speak yoruba very well. You just have to have a good sense of person, so that you can see what is better to emulate from other cultures and what is better in your own culture than the new culture. So that you don't copy wholesale and blindly. If you cannot see anything good about yourself, then you'd be a rolling stone and object of ridicule to others. In a way our younger generation have no sense of who they are and what forces have been shaping their lives. This is what concerns me the most.

As a person, i also believe in compromise just to let things be.However, I soon realized that i had actually learned this attitude from my parents as Igbo people! I soon asked my parents and others why they had this laid-back attitude of not speaking out against evil, and they said "The War"
Then, they refused to talk about "the war". My father, a former Biafran soldier, did recommend 2 books; "Nigerian revolution and the Biafran war" by Alex Madiebo, so that i could see the true sequence of the tragic events and the dairy of Ojukwu published as " Selected speeches & random thoughts" to understand the desperation of the time and why nobody wished to recall those days in stories.I had since added Faraway in the sky, an account of an American missionary and the legendary Chinua Achebe's personal account "There was a country".

These four books are a must for our youths to get a peek into why Nigeria is how it is and why we must change the tactics we have used in reacting to this oppression that started on May 27th, 1967. Unfortunately, nobody can find the time to tell you these facts unless you disciplined yourself to read and find out for yourself. I recommend these books especially to Chino and Abagworo. It will help them understand who they are and how others see them....and most importantly how to reason in order to see they are actually on the same side!

My point is that we tend to be afraid of speaking out against what we know in our hearts to be false for fear of being disrespected, labeled "Igbotic",illiterate, "tribalistic" or worse. While our adversaries donot hesitate to play the ethnic or religion card when it suits their cause.The reason why many more Igbos died in the second pogrom was simply that naivety of thought that we are all the same, "One Nigeria" and they see me as i see them.So i can call katsina my hometown and invest all my life savings there. What tragic fallacy!
The result of the acceptance of the so called "One Nigeria" heresy carefully sculpted to appear innocent so that our people now adopt the narratives and concoctions of their enemies as solemn facts! The first pogrom against the Igbo was spontaneous following the killing of Ironsi as a punishment for the "Igbo coup" that brought him to power, while the second pogrom was planned and systemic massacre only comparable in scale to the Rwanda massacre of Tutsis. The reason why it happened so successfully?......Disastrous underestimation of the intent of the people we call "Fellow" Nigerians. That is why Igbos have continued to invest all their money in god forsaken parts of the north and elsewhere trusting on the benevolence of those folks, just as our parents disastrously did just in the 1960s. The tragedy of it is that our people will believe they are from Kano or elsewhere simply because they were born there and speak hausa fluently just like Musa and Jibril that were born in the same hospital as them. Only for the facts to hit them at some point when they are treated differently! Just as our parents learned the hard way.
I know i have not made my point clearly in black and white, but it was deliberately intended to be fuzzy. So that people that can read between the lines and search the truth for themselves.

Bishop42:
"The tragedy of it is that
our people will believe they are from Kano or elsewhere simply because they were born there and speak hausa
fluently just like Musa and Jibril that were born in the same hospital as them."
*********************

I was born and brought up in Maiduguri,Borno state ,never had any ill feeling towards my tribe. I guess the self-hate thing is inborn?

Zonacom:

Didn't know the little convo we had in hausa the other day actually got some mofos pained. Some people just hate for no reason

OdenigboAroli:



Odogwu nwannem,nmadu ka eji aka; This post aptly described my state of mind when I speak about the stupidity of those Igbo who has several mansions littered all over sw and north but not a drop of sand in Igboland. Odenigbo will not build a goat barn na be ndi ofe m'obu ndi awusha!

asha80:
only regional banks and not commercial banks..there is no revolution in this aspect with commercial banks..stop getting unnecessarily emotional and raissing hopes here

tonychristopher:

PEOPLE ARE SILLY....HOW CAN YOU HAVE CONVO IN HAUSA ON IGBO THREAD ..THAT IS AFFRONT AND SILLY. TO SENSIBILITY OF IGBO

Zonacom:

Noted. Happy sunday

rafindo:
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the guy raise up men.full of emotions he refuse to differentiate between dreams ND realities. I laugh at how clueless apga can be.it shows u how uneducated they are about our laws.the constitution entails that all party must have their national hqtr at abuja in other to prevent sectionalism.even when the defunct acn was existing the national hqtr was still abuja.this at this junction I can conclude convincingly Igbo as no leader.