Tomtoxic:
sir goodjoe this ideology of only home based players for u-17 where did it come from because I think I remember a Chelsea boy makanjuola in the iheanacho set.
now let's be real here: u have got a chance to play for 2 countries u meet the 1st and u are rejected with no promise of a future call up then the other calls u to show how much they need u. where will u go? u can't blame alaba for doing the RIGHT THING he followed those who needed him.
coach yemi tella was obviously acting on his own accord not of d NFF alaba is a Nigerian and had as much right as others to represent the country he should have been allowed in to train with other left backs to compete for the slot but him not being given that chance means that yemi tella didn't even care about taking the best team to represent the country which should always be the case.
NIGERIA has never had a better leftback than ALABA and its naija's loss not alaba common the nigga z way better than echiejile and oshaniwa and its not like we can even give him a world cup medal.
no DISRESPECT to the green white green just had to speak my mind before we drive all our better players with our mindset of Anglo Nigerians are average players abi is Nigeria a world power in football sef.

TheGoodJoe:


They should not change it. If they change it, we will have our coaches globe trotting looking for established names in clubs and abandoning our grassroot talents.

Look at Osimhen and Alampasu, if not this system we would have not have the likes of these guys. We might lose Alaba but we gain more by exposing more of our grassroot talents.

We won the U17 back to back. Produced talents like Osimhen, Chukwueze, Iheanacho, Chidera Ezeh, Yahaya, Chidebere and Kelechi Nwakali and a host of others.

What a lot of people do not know is that we have more talents in our grassroot that in clubs. We need more ways to expose them. The U17 has helped in a lot of ways.

You do not change a winning system.

Tomtoxic:
sir goodjoe this ideology of only home based players for u-17 where did it come from because I think I remember a Chelsea boy makanjuola in the iheanacho set.
now let's be real here: u have got a chance to play for 2 countries u meet the 1st and u are rejected with no promise of a future call up then the other calls u to show how much they need u. where will u go? u can't blame alaba for doing the RIGHT THING he followed those who needed him.
coach yemi tella was obviously acting on his own accord not of d NFF alaba is a Nigerian and had as much right as others to represent the country he should have been allowed in to train with other left backs to compete for the slot but him not being given that chance means that yemi tella didn't even care about taking the best team to represent the country which should always be the case.
NIGERIA has never had a better leftback than ALABA and its naija's loss not alaba common the nigga z way better than echiejile and oshaniwa and its not like we can even give him a world cup medal.
no DISRESPECT to the green white green just had to speak my mind before we drive all our better players with our mindset of Anglo Nigerians are average players abi is Nigeria a world power in football sef.

TheGoodJoe:


[b]Show me where I said Alaba did the wrong thing. I onow about Habib Makanjuola case.

He won the MVP Award U-10 YSFON competition in 2007, MVP Award YSFON U-11 in 2008, won MVP Award YSFON U-12 in 2009.

Remember some of them came from a National U17 project. So I do not know the arrangement of pushing Makanjuola into the squad but he was a National project since he was U10.

So tell me when I said Alaba did the wrong thing? That is like saying Ross Barkley did the wrong thing.

I said I do not miss them. I do not miss Olisadebe, John Fashanu, Ehiogu, Jordon Ibe, Barkley and I do not miss Alaba.

If Alaba wanted to play for us, he would have waited to play for Coach Siasia. By 2010 he would have definitely gone to the 2010 World Cup with us. He did not want.

I also wished him the best on this thread. So how am I saying he is wrong. It is his life. He was born in Austria. He must like the country. I do not miss him. We have enough talents to compensate for the loss of these men.[/b]

BascoVanVeli:


If u read me correctly u would see i said there should be a fine line. My question is what are we winning? Who have we had in the last 10 years that is as good as Alaba? No one is asking the NFF to take globe trips, we are saying grab these players when the opportunity presents. Imagine Argentina not inviting Messi. Iheanacho and co are great talents but that does not give an excuse to neglect any Nigerian, that amounts to discrimination.

BascoVanVeli:


If u read me correctly u would see i said there should be a fine line. My question is what are we winning? Who have we had in the last 10 years that is as good as Alaba? No one is asking the NFF to take globe trips, we are saying grab these players when the opportunity presents. Imagine Argentina not inviting Messi. Iheanacho and co are great talents but that does not give an excuse to neglect any Nigerian, that amounts to discrimination.

Tomtoxic:

from the u-17 ideology u made known to us it still proves that makanjuola shouldn't have been in the team he was with chelsea which as such rules him out as a foreigner.he still shouldn't be in the team on a 2nd count based on d ideology as he was already "a made player" not an hustler being that the U-17 is a place to unearth new talent not to field the best team so permit me to boldly say that it is safe to say no such ideology exists.
sir goodjoe there is a misunderstanding sumwere I wasn't trying to say u blame him guess I should have used we instead of u.
lastly u said if he wanted to play for nigeria he would have waited for siasia.now I seriously can't believe u said this c'mon that line is damn weak cuz if he didn't want to play for Nigeria I see no reason why he would fly down to naija for a training section with the eaglets.u are saying he should wait abi I guess ur advice to kehinde fatai now will be to wait till 2020 when the NFF will be willing to call him up bro by then the nigga will be 30

TheGoodJoe:


Alaba wanted to play the U17. There is no guarantee that he would have rejected the Austrian National team when they called him?

I repeat, if he wanted to play for us, he would have waited. If he likes, let him be a better than Roberto Carlos, he does not make me less proud of Celestine.

Ross Barkley does not make me less proud of Aluko, Babatunde or even the up and coming young Kelechi Nwakali.

Tomtoxic:

don't make it seem like the boy was selfish he didn't just want to play u-17 he wanted to represent his father land and if he was given that opportunity even if he wasn't called up for u-20 he will have felt a sense of belonging and as such he will strive to earn a super eagles invite.
bros abeg nur bring Ross Barkley or Jordan ibe or any of such players into this its purely different because those 1s never made an effort to contact Nigeria not even in an interview

forgiveness:


Thank God you admitted that the U17 2007 grass roots project was a failure.

Do you mean Emmanuel Amunike, Celestine Babayaro, Tijani Babangida, Yakubu Aiyegbeni and even Kanu Nwankwo are better than Alaba?

forgiveness:


Thank God you admitted that the U17 2007 grass roots project was a failure.

Do you mean Emmanuel Amunike, Celestine Babayaro, Tijani Babangida, Yakubu Aiyegbeni and even Kanu Nwankwo are better than Alaba?

TheGoodJoe:


Kanu finished in the top 10 of Fifa Ballon D'Or list. Shocking you can compare Alaba to Kanu Nwankwo.

Icon4s:

In addition to my points

TheGoodJoe:


You keep forgetting Finidi George who was rated as the best winger in the World. Even though he did not come through the Nigerian Youth footballing system, he is one hundred percent Nigerian made.

TheGoodJoe:


Why do you keep bringing up Alaba's issue? Coach Yemi Tella and Coach Manu Garba did not do anything wrong. They all knew Alaba was a super talent. He was already training with the Bayern Main team before he contacted the coaches.

The U17 is for Grassroot development and not for those already doing well. We use the U17 to boost the local young boys in the country to provide better life for their friends and family. Bringing a boy about to break into Bayern Munich beats the whole grassroot development ideology.

Nothing stopped Alaba from waiting and alerting Coach Siasia for the U20 World Cup. There was no way Coach Siasia could have rejected him.

Alaba was wrong there and I hope he wins an international medal with Austria. I wonder what he was rushing for. He expected us to drop a grassroot player to play him.

TheGoodJoe:


[b]Leave your condescending tone. You can ridicule the boys as much as you want but it does not change the fact that these boys have defeated the so called European players with all the facilities, equipments and coaching to lift the U17 titles back to back.

The system is working and until tomorrow, the U17 will continue producing great players from the grassroot. Why are Arsenal and Wolfsburg fighting for Osimhen. I thought all good players come from their systems.

You are calling the U17 champions chop I chop.

You can hate on them but they will continue shining. There is no proof Amunike would carry the foreign base players.

What is boiling you? I have asked you repeatedly, what is your problem? You are ranting and shouting and calling local talents like Iheanacho and Success chop I chop players.

Are you not a hater? I guess Oruma ans Kanu Nwankwo are chop and chop players. It is paining you that local boys can grow up to become big stars through football.

Tell me what is your problem?[/b]

forgiveness:


Sir, it's necessary to get the essence of the whole issue and that is the reason for those questions.

You said it is a fact that NFF is using the U17 for only grassroot players. Then, I asked you, why did the same NFF bothered to invite foreign based players for selection prior to the last world Cup?

Please,kindly answer this question. Thanks

forgiveness:


@bolded

Sir, what do you say about Habib Makanjuola who is doing well before he was drafted into the U17?

TheGoodJoe:


We do not know the bases for Habib Makanjuola they invited Habib Makanjuola. The boy was a National project since he was under 10.
For instance, if YSFON that played a role in the development of football in Nigeria want to start grooming stars and they wanted to see the effect of their project.

Is it difficult to understand. Habib Makanjuola was a grassroot development project. I believe they were continuing their process.

So what is your problem?

forgiveness:


Thank you sir, It means what you said earlier was totally wrong because Habib was already doing well before he was invited to play for the U17.

Please, kindly note that NFF didn't sponsor Habib, it was Pastor Adebayo that sponsored him to go for a trial in Chelsea.

TheGoodJoe:


Did you see them select those foreign players?

Answer what your problem is. I have been waiting.

forgiveness:


But at least, you are now aware that there is no schism in the NFF policy when it comes to our country grassroot project.

TheGoodJoe:


[b]Which kind no schism?

How many foreigners have you seen playing in our U17?

How man professional league players in Europe have you seen playing in our U17?

Answer and tell me no schism.

What is funny about this whole Alaba thing is that. When I first heard it, which was in I think 2010. I went Ballistic and I wanted Coach Siasia's head on a plater.

How could Coach Siasia reject Alaba. We planned a massive campaign on Facebook against Coach Siasia.

When I read the interview and I read that it was Coach Tella and his crew, and they rejected him because he did not fit into the U17 grassroot development project, not Coach Siasia's U20 team, I understood immediately without any fuss.

Now you are here, not because of Schism but you look down on the Nigerian development system. That is a fact.

I have seen you call our players mediocre repeatedly because they are not playing in foreign clubs.

You are not a member of the NFF, I do not believe you are a journalist who has worked with Nigerian youth coaches. You do not understand their operations and you have a very vague idea of Nigerian football.

You can not know more about the Nigerian youth System than Coach Yemi Tella who was a member of the NFF technical committee.

So all you are writing can not prove anything.

By the way, I am still waiting to know what your problem is.[/b]

TheGoodJoe:


As if I have not seen his video in Redeemed when he was thanking his papa. Abi, his Adeboye sponsored the YSFON tournament.

Maybe I am typing too fast. Alaba was a professional footballer. When Habib joined the U17, was he a professional footballer?

So, what is your problem.

forgiveness:


Sir, we don't need to go back and forth. The point remains that, NFF gave them the chance to prove themselves. It is now left for the coach to choose from the array of talents at his disposal. So,that another mistake will not reoccur.

forgiveness:


YSFON tournament didn't sponsor the boy to Europe. Someone paid for him to go to Abroad and it's not different from Alaba or any other Nigerians who were sponsored by their parents to play abroad.

Alaba was already doing well in Chelsea.

TheGoodJoe:


Them given a chance to play does not mean they were selected. I repeat you do not know more than Coach Tella.

forgiveness:


Doing Tella's era, they weren't given the chance but after the mistake, NFF decided to give them the chance. That remains the point.

TheGoodJoe:



You are putting a boy discovered by a National project in Nigeria in the same group as a boy born in Austria and became a professional player in Austria.

Makanjuola was an academy player in Chelsea. He did not even have work permit.

Alaba was a professional footballer, earning from football at that time.

forgiveness:



The National project was only to discover talents but it was not the National project that paid for his trip to Europe. Someone paid for him.

Who paid for Alaba and other Nigerians born abroad to play in Academy? Hustling Nigerian parents or well wishers.

Habib Makanjuola was doing well before he came to play for the U17. So, he have been dropped for those who are not doing well as you earlier said.

You are talking out of point. The context is not who sent Makanjuola overseas but why was he included in the squad despite him being based overseas. Which is an irregularity with what we saw in the past.

I pointed out that Makanjuola was discovered in a National Youth Project. So it might have been a continuation of a grassroot project.

So i wonder how you brought in who sent him to London and hustling parents sent their kids to academies.

In the same context, I pointed out that Alaba was already a professional footballer and Makanjuola was not a professional at that time.

My point is too clear. I wonder why you are bringing another issue into the debate.

BascoVanVeli:


They should change that. The team should be for the best u-17 Nigerian players. This same mindset lost us Alaba lets not repeat it again. There should be a fine line.