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Re: Please What Has Our President Actually Done Wrong(a Must Read 4 Nigerians) by davo3286: 1:29am On Oct 31, 2014
Ovamboland:


False, prosecution for violating state laws is part of the fucntion of the executive arm of government, the courts will decide on the merit of the argument of the 'Prosecution'.
The court and judges will not go on the street to look for criminals if the executive says stealing is not corruption.

You think to prosecute someone is as easy as you think? How can you accuse someone and bring criminal charges against him when you don't have all the evidence with which you can use to nail him!? Wrongful accusation is a crime, I hope you know that? It's only easy from a layman point of view. The court will have to decide on any case brought before it and if that final decision is in favor of the accused individual, no matter the billions he has allegedly stole, he becomes a free man and there nothing anybody can do. That's democracy for you and that is why I said and will always say GEJ is not the court(s).
Re: Please What Has Our President Actually Done Wrong(a Must Read 4 Nigerians) by wanimo: 6:02am On Oct 31, 2014
Ovamboland:


Are you guys programmed to tell lies on this forum, please list the corrupt people that have been convicted in 4 years of Jonathan and the name of the EFCC chairman.
there is a tv programme called EFCC watch. U need to be following it and stop ranting.
Re: Please What Has Our President Actually Done Wrong(a Must Read 4 Nigerians) by Charbless(m): 6:22am On Oct 31, 2014
He has given u Freedom after Speech and Bullshits. #ask Al'Mustapha wat he has done
Re: Please What Has Our President Actually Done Wrong(a Must Read 4 Nigerians) by Youngzedd(m): 6:47am On Oct 31, 2014
Do you really know how many times we have been scammed by FG?

Fuel subsidy
Power
Building of refineries

Damn it.
Re: Please What Has Our President Actually Done Wrong(a Must Read 4 Nigerians) by Ovamboland(m): 4:24pm On Nov 01, 2014
explorer250:
I dont know if you read my main post. If you didnt pls try to. My theme is not what you said but my problem is those oppossing jonathan cannot bring to table any tangible thing he has done wrong!. I can stand and vouch that Gej is the best president of this country since its founding. Gej has worked beyond doubt any president or head of state of this country. Do you know that no state in Nigeria has less than two power plants?. Here in Aba, a transformer is deposited for only two houses and thousands of them has been deployed already. I dont know if you have been to our airport these days and see for yourself what they have been transformed into. Just to mention a few. Please dont tell us that fashola is working that hard. Ask lagosians, they will tell you. Do you know that lagos has a monthly IGR of 29bn and fed alloc of 19bn? If governors like okorocha or akpabio is given such money then you will call fashola a criminal because of ground breaking achievements they will make with such money. Tinubu is the God father of fashola, and you cannot tell me that both of them are not looting because they are still at peace. Do you know that fashola companies charge billions of naira to build roads which other companies will charge less on, but the irony is that it is these fashola companies that gets the road contracts. Pls stp painting him saint.

This is the most asinine statement i have heard in a while and it needs to be addressed or else a lot of young and gullible readers may start beliving the FASLE statement to be true. If GEJ is the best can you list the projects and society trasforming institutions he has conceived and implemented. In which which class will you put those who built :

- Nigeria's 1st refinery or the next 3 refineries totaling all the 4 we have? Has Jonathan added any?

- The petrochemical plants and fertilizer plants in PH and Kaduna were built by some other governments, has Jonathan built any?

- Those who built all the major expressways from scratch are what? Lagos -Ibadan, Benin- Ore, Abuja-Kaduna etc. can you name anyone newly built by Jonathan?

- The 2 steel complexes Ajaokuta & Delta plus 4 steel rolling mills have been built before him

- All the hydrodams Kainji, Jebba, Shiroro was built by others, he has built none

- All gas plants, Egbin, Oji river, was built by others. OBJ conceived NIPP including the following gas plants Papalanto, Omotosho, Olorunsogo, Geregu, Egbema, Alaoji etcsome were finished and other ia various stages in 2007. Maybe GEJ is responsible for 1 or 2 more plants if not so list the ones conceived since 2011.

- A number of governments were responsible for 3rd mainland bridge yet GEJ is better than them, can you name any project in the class and scale of this bridge under Jonathan?

- Under OBJ there was Telecom reforms, Pension reforms, Health Insurance system, Local content development, Debt repayment (debt already piled up by Jonathan when oil is over $100 pb),NEPA broken into 18 successor companies in preparation for privatisation, stalled under Yar'adua and concluded under GEJ for which he taken all the glory, amongst others can you list original reforms conceived by Jonathan for him to best any other government?

- The railway projects for which GEJ is claiming all the glory were all started under OBJ including the newest locomotive head ordered from GE, the Abuja-Ajaokuta standard gauge, rehabilitation of Lagos -Kano originally meant to be changed to standard gauge all the way to increase maximum speed but scaled down to mere repairs under GEJ with mediocre results.

- Need i go on? Under OBJ we were generating up to 4000 MW, now under Jonathan he has 'improved' it last week to 2800 MW

If in spite all these major projects that we can see today were built or conceived by past government Nigerians are not fond of most of them. Now what has Jonathan done as much as them not to talk of better than past government for Nigerians to be fond of him? There was corruption in the past government and it is also present in abundance in Jonathan's government.

Yes he is the first southern minority to lead Nigeria and the first person from former Eastern Nigeria to lead the country so it is understanable that people from that area are emotionally invested in him. To many there he can do no wrong.

In any case if he is that wonderful, let us make the mistake of voting Buhari as this is about his last chance, GEJ is still a young man, he can recontest in 2019 then we can correct our mistake as was done in Ekiti grin

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Re: Please What Has Our President Actually Done Wrong(a Must Read 4 Nigerians) by Ovamboland(m): 4:33pm On Nov 01, 2014
davo3286:


You think to prosecute someone is as easy as you think? How can you accuse someone and bring criminal charges against him when you don't have all the evidence with which you can use to nail him!? Wrongful accusation is a crime, I hope you know that? It's only easy from a layman point of view. The court will have to decide on any case brought before it and if that final decision is in favor of the accused individual, no matter the billions he has allegedly stole, he becomes a free man and there nothing anybody can do. That's democracy for you and that is why I said and will always say GEJ is not the court(s).

Mr, it is the responsibility of the executive to ensure that the police are better organised and trained to obtain necessary evidence of crime not the courts. If somebody stole, the evidence is the missing item, and the level of culpability depends on the responsibility of the accused for the missing item. If a public official does not comply with laid down procedure in project finance, the evidence is there in the trail of paperwork and signatures and authorizations. It is very easy to conceal all this if the body saddled with investigations is emasculated by the executive and can only be because it is involved or comfortable with the crime.

The court can only make pronouncement on evidence before it, if the prosecution fails to bring the evidence of crime against the state you cant blame the courts
Re: Please What Has Our President Actually Done Wrong(a Must Read 4 Nigerians) by Ovamboland(m): 4:41pm On Nov 01, 2014
Chigold101:
you are right. But know that it is cos GEJ is not using it hunt his politcal enemies like OBJ did. If GEJ goes the way of OBJ, s[b]omeone like atiku would be telling EFCC how he made his billions as a costum officer & Buhari too would be telling how 2.8 billion dollars that got lost was traced to his account[/b] and the NTA person to investigated & discovered itwas sacked.
The only problem of GEJ is thathe is a true democrat. He doesnt fight, kill & jail percieved enemies. OBJ would have caution seun of shot down nairaland if he is the one that people use this medium to hip insult and abuse everyday..

GEJ will be doing Nigerians a great service if he can pull this through what do you think? will this not send the fear of God and Nigeria to heart of every current and potential looter and we can say we are on the path of justice and development
Re: Please What Has Our President Actually Done Wrong(a Must Read 4 Nigerians) by Ovamboland(m): 4:48pm On Nov 01, 2014
slimfit1:
I think we should start to vandalise houses and companies with generators when ever a gas power pipeline is vandalised.

Another youth foolish in thought, your mates in Burkina Faso headed in the right direction when their sovereignty was challenged by their own government. Your hate and covetousness will not allow you to think of where to vent your anger when things don't go well for you. You can only think of attacking your struggling betters when those that created the vandalism situation are laughing their heads off in the corridors of power.
Re: Please What Has Our President Actually Done Wrong(a Must Read 4 Nigerians) by davo3286: 1:15pm On Nov 03, 2014
Ovamboland:


Mr, it is the responsibility of the executive to ensure that the police are better organised and trained to obtain necessary evidence of crime not the courts. If somebody stole, the evidence is the missing item, and the level of culpability depends on the responsibility of the accused for the missing item. If a public official does not comply with laid down procedure in project finance, the evidence is there in the trail of paperwork and signatures and authorizations. It is very easy to conceal all this if the body saddled with investigations is emasculated by the executive and can only be because it is involved or comfortable with the crime.

The court can only make pronouncement on evidence before it, if the prosecution fails to bring the evidence of crime against the state you cant blame the courts

You didnt read my last post. Did you? Because you just repeated my points or may be you didnt understand or you refused not to understand.
Re: Please What Has Our President Actually Done Wrong(a Must Read 4 Nigerians) by Ovamboland(m): 4:27am On Nov 06, 2014
explorer250:
is he the one that vandalised the pipelines that caused the drop? I will say amen a hundred times. But may your house hold be ran as buhari and obasanjo ran this nation. Including the hanging of citizens and the wiping out of a community! Pls help me say amen with that, keeping silent or not replying simply means that you are an e_warrior. Guy you also know that you wont be voted into power come 2015. America did not achieve 24 hour constant power supply within 4 years not even 10 years. No country on earth did that. Achieving stable power is a contenous responsibility in such a way that every administration contributes its own quota and leaves the rest for the upcoming. Our late president yaradua is the only president that tried to make significant achievement on power sector. The previous regime including obj and the military did not put significant interest in it. So do you expect jonathan to do magic and give you 24 hour power within four years? Pls lets stop to be hypocritical. Hating mr president will only cause you high bp when he rules you again at 2015.

The bolded is the lies thekeep telling you to keep you deluded.
So Obasanjo that started 10 gas power plants and commissioned several before he completed his second coming did nothing while Yar'dua who started zero and commissioned zero power plants did everything on power. I can see GEJ smartness on display here.

How many power projects has Jonathan completed among the NIPP plants he met on-going and how many has he added to the mix in his purported transformation of power sector?
Maybe 2 or 3 plants in all yet in your deluded mind that is transformation.

He met 4000MW generation and 6000MW capacity and in 5 years of transformation we are down to 2500MW and virtually same capacity, we must need microscope to notice the transformation.

Even the much maligned military commissioned Egin, Jebba, Shiroro that are major backbones of our power supply system. What has been transformed in the way these plants are operated, are they utilizing more of their capacity or what. That word transformationhas been much abused under Jonathan, now seems to mean clueless.
Re: Please What Has Our President Actually Done Wrong(a Must Read 4 Nigerians) by abacrested(f): 7:18am On Nov 06, 2014
XketchDesigns:
with a reply like that it is pointless indulging in a conversation with you.

If truly you believe in GEJ, then il have one prayer for you. May your household and affairs be ran like how GEJ runs the affairs if nigeria. The leadership GEJ give to Nigerians, May your household also be lead by such leadership.
Say amen, or remain a hypocrite forever.
AMENOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Re: Please What Has Our President Actually Done Wrong(a Must Read 4 Nigerians) by crown777(m): 7:47am On Nov 06, 2014
explorer250:
Jonathan this,jonathan that. WHAT IS IT THAT JONATHAN HAS ACTUALLY DONE WRONG? Why are we nigerians filled with much hate for our dear president? Jonathan is the best president so far since the independence of Nigeria. Among all the heads of states and presidents that ruled nigeria so far, who among them can compete against jonathan in times infrastructure,power,food security,transparency,good governance and all other sectors of the economy?. Do we know that Nigeria cleared its debt from the world bank during jonathan administration?, do we know that power is more steady in Nigeria during his administration?, do we know that the price of petroleum products was most stable in jonathans administration compared to the previous one?, do we know that nigeria became the largest economy in africa during jonathans administration?, do we know that we recorded so many victories in our sports uner Gej administration?. The things mr president has done for this country is unspeakable. If we say that jonathan is corrupt, then he would be a saint with respect to previous administrations. During obj administration there was a hike in the prices of petroleum products, the economy was in shambles, the naira kept loosing its value etc. But despite these facts no one opposed or lambasted him as many is doing to Gej. Simply because he was kept there by the north. Nigeria was in total darkness and debts during previous administrations but there was an improvement during Gej regime. Are we going to talk of federal roads that was built during Gejs administration? Do we know that our airports was raised to world standard during Gej regime? For those who has been to our airports will bear me witness. The question i am still asking is "what on earth has jonathan done wrong on this country?". Lets move to the political arena. Corruption is at every nook and crany of the country, agreed. But to say that PDP is corrupt and that APC is not or less is a hypocritical statement because not less than 50% of APC members are from PDP. I am not here to render any political support to any party but i must say the truth that the north and the APC is playing politics of bitterness. I woke up one morning only to hear from my television that jonathan just commissioned a 100bn project at the insurgence ravished north east. I was very amazed and suprised. Jonathan has done a lot for the north in terms of federal projects. I can not arguably say that over 70 to 80% of the federal project commissioned by the president is at the north. Jonathan is working, only at the north, i have not felt the impact of federal projects here in the east. The only thing i know that jonathan has done for the east is the making of enugu airport an international one, the so called(which am not sure) second Niger bridge and the appointment of some igbos as key ministers which the general populace of igbos is not benefiting from. The only good thing we igbos has benefitted from jonathan since his ascention to the throne of presidency is that our goods are no longer seized by yorubas at the lagos wolf, under the disguise of contra-ban goods which are later found at the market but this time in the hands of yorubas traders who bought the "expensive igbo goods" at give away price from their fellow yoruba high ranking custom officials. Apart from these, there is no meaningful thing igbos has benefited from Gej administration. But at the side of the north countless roads, dams, irrigation projects, airports, school, infrastructures etc has been built for them by Gej. Not Everybody at otuoke and the entire ss,se and sw has gone to school but gej took the pains to educate the illiterate almajiris, provide fertilisers,improved seeds and farm machines to them for their agricultural devpt. Yet the north has still vowed never to see him at 2015. Am not suprised since they said that they are born to rule. Igbos are people that do not depend on governnent yet the are among the few most succesful ethnic group in Nigeria likewise the west. I think that the north should focus more on the development of their people educationally. Encourage hardwork among their people and not to play the politics of bitterness, vowing to hold power at the detriment of other at all cost. If any region should oppose the re-election of jonathan i think the south west is justified to do so. Because despite their support for him, he has not lived up to expectations to them. I blame Gej for wasting his 6yrs trying to please the north at the detriment of sw,se and ss. Under normal circumstances the whole south shouldnt vote Gej it should be the north that should do everything possible to vote him considering the various things he has done for them. But yet the have accused him of a lot of things he is innocent of. I will describe the action of northern politicians opposing Gej as "INGRATES". Do we know that if you tell those accusing Gej to say what he has done wrong, none of them can present something tangible?. Please, have we ever heared that Gej has illegally looted of any money from the nations coffers? But it is on record that Buhari was not probed for the missing oil $2.8bn when he was the minister of petroleum. So what happend to that money?. Or have we forgotten about his religious and tribal speech? To the supporters of buhari, if you say that you want to vote Gej out based on corruption or on the basis of being tribal or religious then you are a hypocrite, this is because Gej is a saint if the sins of buhari are counted, Pls anybody can quote me wrong on this. I am not to be anti buhari but i want we nigerians to be honest on our resons of voting. If we say that Gej is corrupt then please feel free to present your evidence. I think that the problem with we nigerians is that we have been blinded by tribal and religious sentiments. I think that the only sin jonathan has committed is that he is not a northerner! This write up is written to address people who are opposing the good regime of Gej. So i want people who think that Gej should be voted out to present their tangible reasons or propose a better candidate and why the candidate is better. So present your cases especially the aggrieved northerners lets debate on it! FOR NIGERIANS AND IGNORANT NAIRALANDERS MUST BE TOLD THE TRUTH!


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Re: Please What Has Our President Actually Done Wrong(a Must Read 4 Nigerians) by abacrested(f): 8:55am On Nov 06, 2014
PassingShot:
OP, please learn how to space your writing with paragraphs in order to safe us from this torment of reading through your epistle.

@ the topic, GEJ is simply not competent to rule Nigeria for many reasons:

1. Corruption in this magnitude and form had never been witnessed in Nigeria before him

2. GEJ says "stealing is not corruption" and you still expect me to vote for him.

3. Stella Oduah's case

4. Farook Lawan's case

5. Oil subsidy scam

6. Boko haram sponsors wine and dine with GEJ

7. Epileptic power supply

8. Unemployment continues to rise

9. He sees himsel as a faction leader of the SS and SE

plus many more I can't even remember now.
let me help you with my opinion on your reasons 1 corruption has been reduced during GEJ administration to the minimum. This is the only government that has signed in to law freedom of information bill which gives everybody access to government accounts. This is transparency. No APC state has agree to do this and they will be the first to accuse the FG of been corrupt. Even OBJ could not sign this important tool of fighting corruption into law. OBJ was the petroleum minister for 8 yrs and nobody complained. Apc best governor Fashola could not even give you access to the state accounts. Now who is more Corrupt?
2 Google will help you differentiate between stealing and corruption.
3 odua and farouk's case is still in the court and you don't expect the FG to interfere with the courts.
4 if you say boko haram sponsors dine and wine with GEJ, I say your ignorant of what is happening or your just making noise because there is no proof of your allegation. Even my grandmother in the village knows that boko haram is a political tool of the north to get power back. These people has told you that they are born to rule and we in the south are born to be ruled, Tufiakwa!
5, if you say power has never improved in the country then your a big liar. States with good governors who helps through the distribution of transformers experience at least 15 hours of electricity daily. If you doubt me ask people in Enugu, Anambra, Uyo, owerri,on etc.
6,I've never seen a country where the people expects the government to provide 100% employment to the masses. What did the previous administration do to create employment? GEJ Met a country that was helpless,no foundation, total decay in infrastructure, no power, corruption as a way of life,weak government institutions etc.to solve this problems you have to lay a solid foundation which he has done.In the Agricultural sector alone many jobs has been created,go to our airports and you see jobs been created and work still going on. Go to south east and you see people being self employed and thinking of how to create employment for others,that's the mentality of the Chinese and that is why they are 2nd biggest economy in the world. Nigerians especially yorubas and hausas are very lazy people, they want money and don't want to work.
8 80%of completed projects by GEJ is in the north and you are saying he sees himsel as a factional leader. Why can't you tell ur self the truth that this man is the best thing to happen to nigeria. GEJ was chosen by God and unless God wants him out their nothing one can do.
Re: Please What Has Our President Actually Done Wrong(a Must Read 4 Nigerians) by Nobody: 10:24am On Nov 06, 2014
nobody seems to be presenting a substitute with a better credential than jonathan here.. i think Jonathan is still a lesser evil.

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