ELLYsian:


Quote this part of the Bible, please.

sukkot:
ok let me first enlighten you. beasts in the bible are empires. the roman empire is the caucasian empire. aka the fourth beast.

daniel 7 vs 2 Daniel spake and said, I saw in my vision by night, and, behold, the four winds of the heaven strove upon the great sea. And four great beasts came up from the sea, diverse one from another.

ELLYsian:


This is YOUR interpretation of the Bible.



Enlighten? Do you know what it means?
I think it is you who needs Enlightenment.

MissMeiya:


So in the Nigeria you live in, men don't frequently remove their shirts and go about shirtless? In public and in private, as often as they can?

honeric01:


Go shirtless to the airport or what exactly are you talking about here?

What do we all call guys who walk about shirtless in Nigeria? thugs/agberos. No?

Can you see men who walk about shirtless as responsible men?

I am waiting for your truthful answers.

sukkot:
i see you are still in the dark. i cant help you. you actually think they are speaking about real beasts ? like some monster looking creature with 7 heads and 10 horns is what they are speaking about ? some alien looking creature ? lwtmb. i cant help you bro. you are too far in the dark

MissMeiya:


1. Yes
2. No
3. Yes

ELLYsian:


Where does the Bible state that it refers to Caucasian Empires? Where?

honeric01:


Go shirtless to the airport or what exactly are you talking about here?

What do we all call guys who walk about shirtless in Nigeria? thugs/agberos. No?

Can you see men who walk about shirtless as responsible men?

I am waiting for your truthful answers.

sukkot:
its like this, there are four beasts. its the history of the world allegorically written. the first beast is the babylonian empire. the second beast is the medopersian empire. the third beast is the greek empire and the fourth beast is the roman empire. we are currently under the rulership of the fourth beast which is the caucasian empire aka roman empire. you think it is mere coincidence that the white man is ruling the world ? its his turn. he is the fourth beast. empires come and empires go. they are called beasts.

We are under what rule NOW? The Roman Empire?
The Roman Empire fell in the 4th - 5th century.

And you can only think of four Empires in human history?

Like seriously?

And you wanted to enlighten me?

You better study some history books before you speak of Enlightenment.

ELLYsian:


I guess you are not aware of the fact that the West is morally better developed than Nigeria.
Nigeria is famous for being morally crooked.

Stop blaming the West. This victim mentality won't solve any of the problems the country has.

5minsmadness:
So I'm sitting at the lounge of a well known park and heading to Lagos. Its 6.30am in the morning and I'm thinking I should have been here earlier. I'm patiently waiting to get my ticket when this 'lady' pushes thru to the front. I glance at what she is wearing and I mentally gawk in amazement.

Its a gym workout suit. You know, the kind new-yorkers wear, extremely fitted and very tough but light fabric that leaves absolutely nothing to the imagination. Absolutely nothing. Her buttcrack is very visible and her gluteus is covered in celulite as evidenced by the subtle bumps on her posterior. The front...OK I tried really hard not to look but curiosity got the better of me and yep; the cameltoe was on easy display for all to see. The top was better off, or maybe because I'm used to seeing skimpy tops I don't really know.


Funny enough, what comes to my mind isn't that the woman is loose or how can she stomach all the stares she is receiving, or how she can't possibly know this is a gym suit and not meant for travelling. What comes to my mind is that the Westerners are spoiling us rotten. They are corrupting our minds and debasing our way of life so much that we don't even know when we are making fools of ourselves. How can a woman walk out of her house this Unclad this early in the morning with the mind that she is going to Lagos? What is wrong with her thinking faculty?

If it was in the past an elder would have gone to correct her or shame would not have allowed her expose her unclothedness like this; but now if a person approaches her the person will be told to mind his own business, its a free world, wetin your eye find go there, its her body let her do with it as she likes, it is the inward appearance that matters, the person should stop living in the 19th century, his mind is dirty, etc, the list of excuses to correct wrong when we see it is endless.

We as a people are gradually losing our identity and morality. Soon we will have serialrapists aand killers, soon we will have increased incidences of teenage suicide and morbid obesity. Porn0graphy is already fully embedded in the activities of our youths. All these things that were previously alien to our culture. As if the horrors we have are not enough.

And yet we still support the white man's values and way of life. We shout down those who try to speak up, citing their successful economy as a pass to emulate them no matter what they are doing. We are destroying ourselves with our own hands and are happy to do so.

This lady has passed by for the fifth time and almost all the passengers are looking at her. One or two guys are grinning but most of the other guys have frowns on their faces and a few women have gathered the courage to hiss but she obviously doesn't care. After all, she has been taught to ignore haters.

Haters gon' hate.

Sigh.
Signing off jo.

ELLYsian:


We are under what rule NOW? The Roman Empire?
The Roman Empire fell in the 4th - 5th century.

And you can only think of four Empires in human history?

Like seriously?

And you wanted to enlighten me?

You better study some history books before you speak of Enlightenment.

lezz:
The west has a more transparent and functional government and agencies. And that's all.

But the west is far from morally sound. We are talking about the west whose children are disrespectful to their teachers and parents because they can't be disciplined statutorily. And despite the aboundance of wealth, they have kid murderers, kid drugist and all.

We are talking about the west whose religion is individualism and science.

The west which as brought the male and female to see themselves as competing for supremacy.

It has spilled to Nigeria, and in nairaland no issue of any of the sexes is discussed wothout it morphing into a gender war.
Like this one.

The west that has brought and campaigned for homosexuality and lesbianism to be a norm and acceptable code of public behavoiur.

The west which as developed a modern IVF where a child can have 3 biological parents. Confusion...confusion.

The west who a times place more value and rights on animal pets than on human lives....teach me morality, quoter.

The jews have been with the west for thousands of years, but they kept their morality and culture different from the culture-less west. The jews copied the technology of the west and becoming the masters wothout selling off their culture.

The imposing of western culture accross the globe is top of their agenda. And they target the most weak and gullible especially in africa, that's why Ghana had not been able to pass her anti-gay laws.

Tell your africa that we need to have either our own language and culture very distinct from the west or else, we shall remain mind slaves forever.

ELLYsian:


So some perverted men who have not learnt to control themselves should dictate women what to wear?

sukkot:
the roman empire did not fall. it proliferated into the eurozone and usa. these are all the roman empire. this is why all the buildings in these countries are built like the ancient roman buildings and why their sports arenas are built like the romans coliseums and why they use the roman numeral. they are the roman empire but are calling themselves different names now. are you saying all the humans from the roman empire disappeared from the earth ? try to get some understanding. its like how kwara state broke into kogi and whatever state it broke into ( am not familiar with nigerian states )

semioyin:


Firstly, it's not perverted men who dictate what women wear. Men also (at least in Islam) have to cover up. besides covering up isn't limited to clothing but also behaviour.
secondly, the purpose of covering up is not to protect us from perverts

It's to obey and please our lord.

ELLYsian:


Yes, they died long ago.

The Roman Empire fell. All historian agree on that.

Again, you know only four Empires in human history?

ELLYsian:


Is everyone a Christian or a Muslim?
Does everyone have to share your religious convictions?
Do you want to impose your beliefs on everyone?
Does anyone have a right to tell people which religion they must follow?

semioyin:


Where have I said that others need to behave or act accordingly to my beliefs? I'm just explaining the reasons behind why Muslim people (and Christians) cover up. Whether you do and how u feel is up to you. None of my business

ELLYsian:


Has anyone said that people are not allowed to cover up due to religious beliefs or for other reasons?

sukkot:
you need to read some more. the roman empire is very much around. they have been through different phases. first off around 193 AD a black general from the interiors of africa came with his army and conquered them. his name is septemius severus. this ushered in what is known as the holy roman empire. during this era the empire was dominated by black men. some call it the dark ages or the second temple or byzantine. then the fall of the holy roman empire came around 1300 or so and the caucasians took power again in what is known as the european rennaisance. it was during this period that they started exploring the world and disovered america and added it to their empire. so the roman empire did not go anywhere. it is called the eurozone and usa today. the empire itself proliferated into several european nations and three of these nations annexed america ( french spain and britain )

I have rarely read so much nonsense, sorry.
Was the British Empire also Roman?
And you still do not know more than four Empires?

MissMeiya:


1. Yes
2. No
3. Yes

semioyin:


Okay, you are not following what I'm saying, so let me break it down. My post was explaining that ppl don't cover up because 1) men tell them to and 2) to protect themselves from rape etc.

ELLYsian:


I have rarely read so much nonsense, sorry.
Was the British Empire also Roman?
And you still do not know more than four Empires?

NoContract:
@OP, please shut up witht your 'corrupted morality iish'

What a gang of self serving mofos blaming the west for their failed empathy. You rob your citizens, and build mansions overseas and companies, then you come back and claim the west are the ones messing you up!

What a bunch of hypocritial fools, fooling themselves since they forcefully ganed independence.

I've never seen such a sheepish country filled with 97% gullible people.

Chai! For 2014!

ELLYsian:


This was part of the discussion into which you decided to jump in.
People were saying that women are se*xually assaulted because their clothes provoke men and this is why I asked if perverts should dictate women what they should wear.