neoapocalypse:


You want to take the easy way out

Unless the veil is removed u keep marching to Hell thinking you are doing the right thing.

MzNelly:


The laptop you speak of is a MACHINE!
We are humans. They don't have free will, we do!

God didn't program Satan's actions, just like he doesn't program ours.
If he took away our free will, do you know what would become of us?

We'd be just as good as ROBOTS!

Machines can have free will too, one only has to program it to behave unpredictably. But designers don't make machines that way. My computer powers up when I hit the power button. It doesn't jump from my lap and take off running. But it could have been designed to demonstrate any number of behaviors randomly. What good is such a product?

In reference to the highlighted part, God does program people. He programmed Lucifer to select from one of TWO choices. He didn't want Lucifer to be a good person by design, so he created his brain in such a way that it could potentially find evil to be appealing.

How do you know that it isn't a design flaw that allowed the brain of Lucifer to find evil appealing? The option was inserted into the software by God himself.

starlingslimnet:
We are not dear,look deep into the mystery of God. "The world is in the Power of the evil one" is reffering to the elemental spirits of d world they are totally commited to carry out the order of satan. Let me reveal one weakness of satan to u,He is powerless but become powerful when u ascribe power to him. As curny as He is he has not a single power over the heart of a man. But the Holy Spirit have the Power to convict the heart of a man irrespective of dat man's will,who can resist His will? But satan,a NO from u he can't force u but only flee.
I wish the church can see how weak satan is than ascribing what he does not have to him

*facepalm*

"...The ruler of the world has no hold on me." --- John 14:30

"...The ruler of this world has been judged." ---John 16:11

MzNelly:


*facepalm*

"...The ruler of the world has no hold on me." --- John 14:30

"...The ruler of this world has been judged." ---John 16:11

Do u understand the verse u quote?

Weah96:


Machines can have free will too, one only has to program it to behave unpredictably. But designers don't make machines that way. My computer powers up when I hit the power button. It doesn't jump from my lap and take off running. But it could have been designed to demonstrate any number of behaviors randomly. What good is such a product?

In reference to the highlighted part, God does program people. He programmed Lucifer to select from one of TWO choices. He didn't want Lucifer to be a good person by design, so he created his brain in such a way that it could potentially find evil to be appealing.

How do you know that it isn't a design flaw that allowed the brain of Lucifer to find evil appealing? The option was inserted into the software by God himself.

LOL

You've succeeded in rendering me speechless with your over exaggerated ideas.

starlingslimnet:
Do u understand the verse u quote?

Dear, I'm tired of telling you how right I am.

I'm hungry.

MzNelly:


What more would you have me say?
You're not being very explicit, you know.

Tell me the controversies.

give me a moment, I've got to attend to some issues at work

neoapocalypse:


give me a moment, I've got to attend to some issues at work

It's all good.

MzNelly:


Dear, I'm tired of telling you how right I am.

I'm hungry.

Dear? I will put that in mind , Find something to eat and answer my question thereof

starlingslimnet:
Dear? I will put that in mind , Find something to eat and answer my question thereof

Keep it in mind at your own risk.

Your question?
I understand the verses.

I know you have another twist to it tho; entertain me with it later.

MzNelly:


LOL

You've succeeded in rendering me speechless with your over exaggerated ideas.

To your credit, your version of free will is more plausible than other versions I've heard here. At least, your God doesn't know everything and can't predict what people will do in the future. Designing a product with free will in this instance is deleterious to the designer, but at least your idea makes sense.

What I've heard from others is that God knows which choices people will make in the future before he even gets to the designing board. Freewill cannot exist under those circumstances.

MzNelly:


Keep it in mind at your own risk.

Your question?
I understand the verses.

I know you have another twist to it tho; entertain me with it later.

Good,now tell me what it means since u understand it

Weah96:



To your credit, your version of free will is more plausible than other versions I've heard here. At least, your God doesn't know everything and can't predict what people will do in the future. Designing a product with free will in this instance is deleterious to the designer, but at least your idea makes sense.

What I've heard from others is that God knows which choices people will make in the future before he even gets to the designing board. Freewill cannot exist under those circumstances.

Wow, I'm glad.

MzNelly:


Wow, I'm glad.

Me too. At least you're an honest person. It's the first step on the way to Godliness.

starlingslimnet:
Good,now tell me what it means since u understand it

They're self explanatory. Satan is the ruler.

MzNelly:


They're self explanatory. Satan is the ruler.

until u understand d word "world" i'm afraid u go on to confuse urself. Besides kindly follow back.

starlingslimnet:
until u understand d word "world" i'm afraid u go on to confuse urself. Besides kindly follow back.

What will you buy for me if I do?

Weah96:


Me too. At least you're an honest person. It's the first step on the way to Godliness.

"Godliness?"

Thought you were an atheist.

MzNelly:


What will you buy for me if I do?

Something money can't buy i think to buy but unless u follow back how will it reach you?

tosag:
For a long time now, I've been praying to God for a job. I've fasted, prayed and even gone for deliverance at MFM twice, all to no avail. The bible says in the book of psalms that God is love and that His mercies endureth forever. If God is indeed merciful as the bible claims why hasn't He heard my cry for help? Even me, an earthly father will not sit and watch my own biological son, whom I brought into this world to suffer for something I know I can provide him. My question is " Is there anything I can do to make God see the seriousness of my situation and for Him to come to my help?". My fellow nairalanders pls I need ur candid advice and suggestions.

Op have you looked for a job?

starlingslimnet:
Something money can't buy i think to buy but unless u follow back how will it reach you?

Hm.

Just 'cos you asked tho.

MzNelly:


"Godliness?"

Thought you were an atheist.

I am. I don't believe in personal Gods. But I do believe that we all harbor a potential for good, or Godliness, and the first step on the way to realizing that potential is honesty, followed by an expression of love towards all human beings.

Weah96:


I am. I don't believe in personal Gods. But I do believe that we all harbor a potential for good, or Godliness, and the first step on the way to realizing that potential is honesty, followed by an expression of love towards all human beings.

Whats is Godliness?

starlingslimnet:
Whats ur Godliness?

Honesty and love.

Weah96:


Honesty and love.

How do come across the word "Godliness"

MzNelly:


LOL

Bro, God is not one to predetermine. Knowing what Satan was gonna do and creating him is st.upidity nau.

C'mon, are you telling me that God knows what Hahn is gonna do this time tomorrow?

Well, according to what I've heard, yes. What's your religion?

starlingslimnet:
How do come across the word "Godliness"

I am my own God. I worship my "conscience."

hahn:


Well, according to what I've heard, yes. What's your religion?

Well, what you've heard is wrong. That would mean you lacked freewill, which you don't.

I'm a Witness; Jehovah's Witness.

Weah96:


I am my own God. I worship my "conscience."

I did not ask u what u worship. I asked "How did u come across the word Godliness"

MzNelly:


Well, what you've heard is wrong. That would mean you lacked freewill, which you don't.

I'm a Witness; Jehovah's Witness.

Ok. Cool. So your doctrine states that God isn't omnipotent or any of the other omnis, right?

hahn:


Ok. Cool. So your doctrine states that God isn't omnipotent or any of the other omnis, right?

Our doctrine?

God is omnipotent and all other omnis you can think of.

Where are you going with this?

starlingslimnet:
I did not ask u what u worship. I asked "How did u come across the word Godliness"

From the English language. How did you come across it.