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Re: Forex Trading - Season 15 by honeric01(m): 2:57pm On Jan 16, 2015 |
PIPnator: Maybe you should move your money first or part of it for the first 2 weeks, then re-fund after the noise settles. |
Re: Forex Trading - Season 15 by infofirst(m): 3:00pm On Jan 16, 2015 |
^ Well said n perfectly understood and not different from what i understand about the way things work The issue is the negative balance dear....Brokers r not suppose to allow that to happen. Go through my posts above to get my side of d story. I suspect that those brokers that are free are not having many CHF positions or one unknown helped dem. ....... As a result – as Alpari put it in a statement – “This has resulted in the majority of clients sustaining losses which has exceeded their account equity. Where a client cannot cover this loss, it is passed on to us.” The extent of the losses has rendered Alpari insolvent. |
Re: Forex Trading - Season 15 by natruetalk: 3:00pm On Jan 16, 2015 |
natruetalk: am taken my risk from here just sold oil @ 47.49 with 100pips SL will be looking to jump out if 55pips goes against me from here note: MARCH CONTRACT
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Re: Forex Trading - Season 15 by natruetalk: 4:25pm On Jan 16, 2015 |
natruetalk: trade closed -52pips |
Re: Forex Trading - Season 15 by natruetalk: 4:35pm On Jan 16, 2015 |
natruetalk: on d sideline looking to join d winning side on d break of last 4hrs high |
Re: Forex Trading - Season 15 by natruetalk: 5:21pm On Jan 16, 2015 |
natruetalk: just sold again @ 47.78 Sl 48.78 fingers crossed
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Re: Forex Trading - Season 15 by natruetalk: 5:40pm On Jan 16, 2015 |
natruetalk: it closed me out @ BE after +40pips it reali want to go up higher |
Re: Forex Trading - Season 15 by L2CD766: 5:46pm On Jan 16, 2015 |
i have always suspected ALPARI UK of being a useless Bucket shop; breeze don blow, fowl nyash don open. |
Re: Forex Trading - Season 15 by 12ema: 6:16pm On Jan 16, 2015 |
FOR THE NEWBIES: What a week. I hope you were able to wade, through the shark infested waters we call forex. I was amazed at some of the comments, on FTA, and forex factory as well, concerning this Swiss thingy. I was thoroughly insulted on forex factory. My only offence was posing a very simple question; how in Gods name would the change in the Swiss financial policy have affected you if you had used a stop loss and applied proper, responsible money management? This is assuming your broker did not go belly up. A lot of people got butt hurt because i asked this question. I was in awe of the number of traders lamenting over their losses. Then i thought to myself, i was in a usdchf trade. How come i am not shaken? why? Because i used a stop loss. I lost exactly 80 pips which accounted for 3 percent of my account. No sweat. See why i have been harping on money management? One had the nerve to say SL are for losers. I closed the page at that point. Anyway, I never listen to news. I know from history that chf pairs can be very volatile at times, so when it happened i thought it was business as usual. As new traders, stay away from news. It has nothing to do with your success as a trader. Consistency, discipline and money management is what makes you successful in this game. When you dwell on news, is same as analyzing and predicting price. It assuredly will not end well. I just wanted to throw this out there. For all those that i have yet to reply their mails, i will this weekend. Good luck. 4 Likes |
Re: Forex Trading - Season 15 by L2CD766: 6:24pm On Jan 16, 2015 |
12ema:people always tend to forget the FX golded- never trade what you cannot afford to lose......... more pips to your account bro 1 Like |
Re: Forex Trading - Season 15 by 12ema: 6:54pm On Jan 16, 2015 |
L2CD766: Agreed |
Re: Forex Trading - Season 15 by staminaguy: 8:26pm On Jan 16, 2015 |
i cant help but just laugh as the yansh of this broker dey just dey open... make we just dey watch.... How you all doing... |
Re: Forex Trading - Season 15 by ayox2003: 8:47pm On Jan 16, 2015 |
naijababe: NB, I'm ds sorry. More hurting is that I forgot my YIM password. How can we fix it and fix us Frawzey |
Re: Forex Trading - Season 15 by Karleb(m): 9:38pm On Jan 16, 2015 |
12ema I hail you! I can't just believe why someone will long or short a trade without adding SL and even TP, those traders needs to be flogged! More power to your elbow! |
Re: Forex Trading - Season 15 by Nobody: 9:41pm On Jan 16, 2015 |
ayox2003: PM me jare! |
Re: Forex Trading - Season 15 by stagger: 10:15pm On Jan 16, 2015 |
12ema: You are lucky your stop was triggered. Usually in these situations, it is like the bottom of a bucket falling out, and with massive selling, the stops do not hold. Do you know how a stop loss works? A stop loss is triggered when the broker is able to match your order to sell as a particular price to another trader who wants to buy at that same price. It happens in milliseconds. If there is side volatility as occurred yesterday, there are usually no buyers for the pairs at the stop loss level and the trade/account will keep on going negative until trading is frozen altogether. Many traders accounts on FXCM and Alpari are now in the negative, meaning that they owe the broker. Don't forget that in forex, brokers are the ones that will absorb these losses because it is their share of the capital (the leverage) that is at risk here. Going forward, I believe we will see some major changes to the leverage rules, the way it has occurred in the US (where maximum leverage allowed is 50:1) and Canada (where leverage is pegged at a maximum at 18:1). This means that very soon, anyone without as much as $100,000 raw cash will be unable to trade forex. This is the only way brokers will protect themselves. So traders beware! Understand the market and how it works and don't come here boasting about your stop loss setting prowess. God simply saved you. |
Re: Forex Trading - Season 15 by rozayx5(m): 10:23pm On Jan 16, 2015 |
i see many brokers closing time to seperate bucketbshops.from real.men 1 Like |
Re: Forex Trading - Season 15 by stagger: 10:24pm On Jan 16, 2015 |
I also need to say that Dukascopy had foreseen this scenario last year and implemented a leverage of 10:1 for CHF positions in October 2014. So any losses sustained by excess slippage will be borne by traders and not the broker. FXCM and co that got burnt are those who allow leverage of up to 500:1. Meanwhile, FXCM has been given $300m by Leucedia to continue operations. A timely bailout has saved the company. |
Re: Forex Trading - Season 15 by stagger: 10:38pm On Jan 16, 2015 |
My final take is that many brokers claiming to be unaffected are hiding the true state of their accounts. It is like trying to prevent a run on a bank when a rumor of collapse hits the banking sector. Many of these brokers claiming to be sound, solvent or materially unaffected, will probably start re-balancing accounts as from next week. I will not be surprised if restrictions on withdrawals, readjustment of client's accounts (which Saxo Bank has announced) and other measures become the order of the day. Now the boys will be separated from the men. |
Re: Forex Trading - Season 15 by honeric01(m): 11:09pm On Jan 16, 2015 |
Dear Client, Following the Swiss National Bank’s decision yesterday to remove the Swiss Franc cap and the subsequent spike in volatility, the market experienced a period of extreme lack of liquidity for trading in CHF pairs. This led to significant losses for many market participants. We would like to reassure you that HotForex is operating as normal, and was not affected in any material way.Our strict Risk Management procedures minimized the impact of this event. Furthermore, we have stayed true to our motto of Honesty, Openness and Transparency. As testament to our commitment to fairness, all negative account balances have been reset to zero and any clients that bought CHF have been paid in full. We are very proud of our reputation in the market and we are confident that after this event our reputation will grow even stronger. We would also like to take this opportunity to thank all of our clients and partners for their continued loyalty and we are looking forward to a strong 2015. As a last note, please exercise extreme caution if entering the markets today as the volatility seems to be set to continue If you have any questions please do not hesitate to contact our dedicated customer support team via myHotForex, live chat, or by telephone on +44 2033185978. Kind Regards |
Re: Forex Trading - Season 15 by honeric01(m): 11:15pm On Jan 16, 2015 |
Leucadia Gives FXCM A $300M Hand January 16, 2015 142 It has just been reported within the hour that FXCM has received a new lease from Leucadia National, an American holding company often engaged in mining, drilling, telecommunications, healthcare, manufacturing, banking services, real estate and winery through its various subsidiaries. The massive $300M bailout comes after the SNB's decision to drop their 3 year old defence of the Euro at 1.20 levels, and is in exchange for $250M in 2 year senior secured notes with a 10% coupon, meaning if FXCM gets sold Leucadia will receive 75% of proceeds (Which means for Leucadia to break even FXCM would have to be sold for at least $400M, though on Thursday's close it was worth $600M so not unrealistic). In regards to the announcement FXCM's CEO Drew Niv said, "Leucadia's support and this financing are by far the best alternative for FXCM, our customers, our shareholders, and all other relevant constituencies." 1 Like |
Re: Forex Trading - Season 15 by 12ema: 5:02am On Jan 17, 2015 |
stagger: Basically, what you are saying is i did the right thing and came out unscathed. Thank you. I hope you understood my post in it's entirety. I vividly remember saying " This is assuming your broker did not go belly up ". Meaning if it did, then there was nothing anyone could have done about it. well, actually there was. Offering and using leverages of 500:1 is the root cause of a lot of these brokers and traders demise in this case. Serves them right. Greedy pricks. Experienced trader who have been stressing on minimal risks know what they are talking about. My initial post on this matter was directed to the traders whose brokers were not affected but still did not use sound money management. There were a lot of them. And what makes you think i was not affected? Alpari is one of my brokers but i am not too worried. I don't have to wash my dirty loins in public. Even though i was not in a trade on Alpai's platform at the time, a portion of my funds are tied down at present, but as a trader i don't let emotions ruin my mojo. Eventually i will do the dance of submitting a claim to the fscs to get my funds back since they are mandated to segregate retail client funds. This is a business, and as with any business one can take significant hits on occasion. Thank God i have more than one account. You call it boasting. I call it experience. Have a good day. |
Re: Forex Trading - Season 15 by Nobody: 7:48am On Jan 17, 2015 |
Greetings to the house! Guys, I just need to make a shortlist of possible brokers to transfer my trading with since, for obvious reasons, I can no longer be with my one and only broker for the last 6 years - Alpari (UK). Please, to all those more experienced traders here, can you help narrow my search down to the best you know. Alpari (UK) was almost everything I'd ever need in a broker. I just need an equal - or if possible, an even better - broker to continue my FX trading with. Thanks in advance! |
Re: Forex Trading - Season 15 by wierdpsycho: 8:26am On Jan 17, 2015 |
baddiguy: DUKASCOPY- SAFE FUNDS, OK SPREAD, BEST ECN Available, Smooth NDD; but very hard to open, but you wont regret it. XM is also reputable. |
Re: Forex Trading - Season 15 by soultender(f): 8:56am On Jan 17, 2015 |
Toks2008:Pls how can I get started with it? Dont ignore this request pls |
Re: Forex Trading - Season 15 by Sirkay78(m): 9:13am On Jan 17, 2015 |
12ema: Thanks for this report u mension that for being Price Action trader should stay away from news do you think news does have effect on price action? |
Re: Forex Trading - Season 15 by Sirkay78(m): 9:19am On Jan 17, 2015 |
12ema: Thanks for this report u mension that beginner should stay away from news don't you think news have effect on price action traders |
Re: Forex Trading - Season 15 by Nobody: 9:25am On Jan 17, 2015 |
for those saying forex will remain here are still day dreaming. d time is near where boys will be separated from men. where 100-1000$ investors will be driven away. where if you don't have a minimum of $100,000 capital, you can't trade forex. where leverage will go back to 1:1 and 1:10 maximum Sadly dis will start January 2016. many market makers were roasted in dis last financial tsunami buyaya. Congratulations if u have 100k capital I said the bolded 2 years ago & am repeating again here. Go for true ECN/STP brokers not all dis noise makers on Bloomberg & biz tv claiming big. I'm currently registering tough with one Swiss broker but at least am garanteed of my fund safe. dis same broker warned people dis will happen Last year. they even reduce leverage to 1:10 on CHF 4 months ago. No need advertising them here as some wise traders in Naija already using them. Those with ears please hear d spirit. Bye |
Re: Forex Trading - Season 15 by honeric01(m): 9:41am On Jan 17, 2015 |
baddiguy: Try hot forex, they are not a market dealer, been with them for 3 years now. |
Re: Forex Trading - Season 15 by fxstory(m): 10:38am On Jan 17, 2015 |
Shevychen2:don't be deceived.most brokers were hit with the spike.they just don't want to make clients be panic.so don't loose guard. |
Re: Forex Trading - Season 15 by fxstory(m): 10:51am On Jan 17, 2015 |
FOREXMARTS:don't be deceived.the country where xm is regulated is weak in monitoring and sanction.those big brokers have strict regulation and laws so they quickly sprung into action because traders are not smiling.their eye dey red.xm don't want to open up. |
Re: Forex Trading - Season 15 by Nobody: 10:56am On Jan 17, 2015 |
fxstory: GBAM |
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