brainpulse:
Buhari built refinery or not. We want him 2015. We say no to cluelessness

Am enjoying this interesting discussion among brilliant Nigerians who ve done great research about the most important phase of our lives and u added this stupid statement. ..Why don't u jog on and let brilliant mind discuss.

walcolm:


it's amazing how much stupidity runs in the GEJ camp...whoever you are and whatever you have been paid to twist the truth, it won't work

under Buhari, the signed pact you have posted was for Brazil to refine our crude (because the refineries had failed under the corrupt leadership of shagari) and return the finished product to us NOT SELL the finished product to Nigeria. Brazil will then charge Nigeria 'SERVICE CHARGE' for the job

you can try to twist the truth but it still wont work

NOT SELL.....but..SERVICE CHARGE? Really...does that make it FREE?

We already know the stock in trade of the Ancestor named Buhari. What can he offer 21st Century Nigeria ? NOTHING.

Join Neo-Jonathanism and tame the tides of Illiteracy from our body polity.

We are building schools, not prisons. Prisons hasnt tamed the tides of crimes in USA, Education offers options for legitimate prosperity, but prisons grooms hardened Criminals. 150 Almijiri schools (even though Basic Education is meant for State Governments, the Northern Governors NEVER built schools, but GEJ tookover their jobs). We also built 14 Federal Universities in just 4 Yrs). Oyoyo !

Yes, a vote for Jonathan is a vote for Education, a Vote for Buhari is understandably a vote for his "Boko is Haram" ideology.

We have a wise and simple CHOICE to make. Vote the most humble, diplomatic, simple, smiling, transforming President Nigeria ever had.

Aluta Continua, Victoria Aceta.

Kenai:


Empty lies from the pit of hell, peddled by propagandists of mediocre intellect.

And setting the records straight on those refineries his propagandists are claiming he built:



http://newsdayreporters.com/what-s-hot/536-specialreport-muhammadu-buhari-did-not-build-any-refinery-for-nigeria-editorial-newsday-reporters.html

So abeg, tell us those refineries he birthed.

Facts and figures in its totality

BlackTechnology:


How will an ignorant SW like you know what GEJ is doing since you hate him because you feel he has sidelined your region

Orient Refinery Anambra

Dangote Refinery On do


Now pick your bag and go to school

well i'm in class sir, but guess your teacher didnt teach you how to answer question. You are crucifying Buhari for importing oil; my question goes thus: IS JONATHAN NOT IMPORTIMG OIL. YES or NO

APC!! APC!!! I'M TALKING TO YOU!!!

While I will choose to mantain my neutrality (obviously not the best I know) on the matter at hand, I want to briefly state my conclusions from my thorough perusal of the different submissions that have been made by both parties on this thread.

1. The PDP apologists (and I wonder if thesame is true of the wider majority) have presented their arguements with well researched and intellectually stimulating facts (not without some sentiments though)
2. The APC 'change-advicates' are in a battle to defend what has been represented as facts but seem to be lacking substantial evidence to support their claims. Their last resort appears to be indirectly admitting that they might be wrong but it doesn't matter as long as they get to see a different face in Aso rock.
3. Following from (2) above, the concept of change, looks to me like it is not one that is based on ideologies but on simply getting a new face in the polity (bewilding)
4. There is evidently no love lost between the supporters from both groups (we no be one nigeria again?). Hence whoever wins the election, there is every indication the opposing group will cry foul (may God help us)
5. The PDP seem to have more supporters among the very educated (Not to say all APC supporters are unschooled). Hence the APC sympathizers seem to careless about the qualifications and economic prowess of their candidate. If not, the ideal strategy would have been to potray more of their running mate who evidently would appeal more to the majority of enlightened Nigerians.

Just a few of my observations from reading through this and a few other threads.

agbajesaid:
well i'm in class sir, but guess your teacher didnt teach you how to answer question. You are crucifying Buhari for importing oil; my question goes thus: IS JONATHAN NOT IMPORTIMG OIL. YES or NO

When you finish your education, we will then explain to you how the PIB will encourage local refinery

So for now finish your education my son

barcanista:
KADUNA REFINERY


http://www.nnpcgroup.com/nnpcbusiness/subsidiaries/krpc.aspx

Muhammadu Was the Petroleum Minister and NNPC Head in 1977

WARRI REFINERY


Muhammadu Buhari was the Petroleun Minister in 1977


Both are from the official website of Both refineries. History can never be re-written. That Buhari undertook refinery construction as Petroleum Minister under Obasanjo Administration does not equate to not importing PMS product in 1984. I don't get your point but don't re-write history

A minister doesn't take credit for any infrastructural development in a country. The Head of State or the President does.. Don't come and spread worthless propaganda here.. GMB didn't do shit as the Head of State.. Little wonder he's not named after any major roads or infrastructures across our major cities... GMB isn't worthy and qualified of presiding over the affairs of my country!!! GEJ till Buhari shows us his WASC..

BlackTechnology:


When you finish your education, we will then explain to you how the PIB will encourage local refinery

So for now finish your education my son

i think i already know the answer to my question then

Hahaha hahaha.....

Kenai:


No responsible government that wishes to embrace an Open Market economy would be running oil refineries in the 21st century.
Jonathan's team is working on taking those refineries off the government's hands and into the hands of private sector, because it's the more logical thing to do.
The Soviet Union was a superstate that had its refineries run by the government. Do you want to know what happened to them in the end?

Berem, you're an economic illiterate who knows nothing about the intricacies of building a developing economy in a 21st century superstate like Nigeria, so shut the f0ck up and stick to selling your curtains!

You can pass your message effectively without resorting to dirty language. You already have the advantage of verifiable records and logic on your side so please do away with the abuses it dims your shine.

I say this because this is just an election, after now situations may arise where we may have to deal or interact (on or offline) with some of the people who do not share our viewpoints. It is best we keep things civil and respectful.

Keep up with your nice posts though.

Cheers

ApexTitan:


You can pass your message effectively without resorting to dirty language. You already have the advantage of verifiable records and logic on your side so please do away with the abuses it dims your shine.

I say this because this is just an election, after now situations may arise where we may have to deal or interact (on or offline) with some of the people who do not share our viewpoints. It is best we keep things civil and respectful.

Keep up with your nice posts though.

Cheers

You're right.
It's just that the said person (Berem) has a history of attacking people in such an irrational manner.
But it's cool.

BARCANISTA ,BACK OFF AND STOP EMBARRASSING YOURSELF LIKE YOUR ILLITERATE LYING FLAG BEARER.

God punish the devil. These APC goons almost succeeded in selling a dummy to the Nigerian masses. Lies & propaganda flying here & there in the guise of fact. These evil people knows that Nigerians are not good students of history so they now try to shout it into our heads of phantom & imaginary projects their "messiah" did while in office as military dictator. The same man that lost serially against OBJ, Yaradua & GEJ has suddenly turned into a messiah without whom Nigeria would perish! Despite all these, they are using blackmail & intimidation against the president, imagine, these nemesis of Nigeria had the effrontery to send almajiris to ambush GEJ in katsina state, a sitting president! Indeed GEJ must be the most gentle president in the whole world!

Redoil:
Does the spot on a leopard changes by mere talking.
Egift barcanista berem obiagelli and gbawe ur attention is need here for you to stand lies on its legs and stand logic on its head. Come and defend buhari and his evil and wicked ways of doing things.
Come and tell us how gej paid new york times to bring false allegations against buhari.

A man cannot give what he doesn't have.

Buhari was one of those rulers who destroyed the Nigerian economy, thanks to their high level of illiteracy and corruption.

A general without a secondary school certificate..

Kenai:


Empty lies from the pit of hell, peddled by propagandists of mediocre intellect.

And setting the records straight on those refineries his propagandists are claiming he built:



http://newsdayreporters.com/what-s-hot/536-specialreport-muhammadu-buhari-did-not-build-any-refinery-for-nigeria-editorial-newsday-reporters.html

So abeg, tell us those refineries he birthed.

Only an illiterate will believe that one refinery not to talk of four can be constructed in a space of 2 years. Was Buhari planning for the refineries before he plotted the Coup ?

Oil refinery is not a cement factory or pure water company. Okay, for the lettered ones. Let's see when Dangote oil refinery will be ready counting from mid 2014..

Huffington:
Buharists niggers have been BUSTED!!!!

Chai Buhari !

Kenai:


What is this blockhead talking about?
Can you read the date the article was written?

Are you saying Goodluck Jonathan transported himself in a time machine to 1984 and paid the journalists there?

I'm starting to believe Buhari's fanbase is made up of nothing but the country's worst DUNCES.

Digging mundane stories, paying journalist for false news, am sure you guys are done with certificate issue, may you go to birth issue cos you are bring fed with stolen money.
I believe some Nigerians are not blindfolded

PDP are only helping Buhari gain more popularity....The question they should have asked themselves is....did we stress ourselves like this in 2011? Its a sign! The whole North and South West are really determined to Vote for Buhari come FEBUHARI.

jdilight:


Why did Buhari kill our economy and made our children jobless?

Sir, its because he is illiterate.

A man cannot give what he doesn't have..

Mmadukaku:
Daft Buhari is not just an old great grand father without certificates, the Illiterate started the importation of refined oil.
lastcard, checkup.

If anything happen to me where I dey laugh, you are responsible.

Chai Buhari...

eluquenson:
Digging mundane stories, paying journalist for false news, am sure you guys are done with certificate issue, may you go to birth issue cos you are bring fed with stolen money.
I believe some Nigerians are not blindfolded

Eyyah. Pele oh.
Your General's rotten, stinking a$$ has been exposed as a FRAUD posturing as a man of integrity.
You can keep accusing ghosts from your village.

Buhari is going down
going down
going down
Buhari is going down, MY DEAR LAPDOG.

Mykevp2p:


Don't tell me you are this daft or just playing a fool?

Before engaging you, do you know the difference between refinery and petrochemical plant? if you do, the question for you, Did Buhari build a refinery or formulated a plan for petrochemical plant? Do you know whay it is called Warri Refining and Petrochemical Company Limited after the merger?
Is Jim Ovia building a refinery or petrochemical plant in Akwa Ibom state?

I have told you, it is not every thread you reply, there are some threads you should just pass by instead of exposing your daftness.

Kai, I have never seen such washing in this forum before now.

Where are you guys from ? Kudos!

And they sent out only barcanista today..

Apc or Buhari supporters are daft n myopic,they are maligned n believe solely that Buhari is their messiah,he will embrace u only now he needs ur vote the most n disassociate u when he gets wat he wants from u,buhari is a fulani man,they think only for themselves n very wicked,they dont forgive,blood thirsty mungers. Why will i cast my vote for that ahboki. Gej till 2019

I don't care, he still has my vote and my household!

Most of the conclusions reached here are uninformed. The policy of importing refined oil did not start with Buhari, it predates Buhari. A world bank report released in May of 1983 (before Buhari came into power) alluded to this fact. This action was an immediate reaction to rising demand locally and our inability to meet this demand. It was at this time the second PH refinery was being planned to ensure we meet domestic production and export refined oil.

If you can read or chose to read, you can go through the series of documents I will post:

The internet usage for online publication was still minimal in the early 80s when the purported news was said to have been published but to satisfy my curiosity, I changed "just the date from 14th to 15th" and this is what I got.



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Just see for yourself.



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A Yoruba adage says, "Ibaje Eniyan koda ise olorun duro".


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Myself and many millions of Nigerian Youth and Adult will vote GMB and Inshaa Allah, IJN, Eriwoya, He shall become the next president!

Kenai:
Did you know that under Buhari's administration, Nigeria signed a pact to export unrefined crude oil to other countries and then import the finished products afterwards?

This 1984 news article from The New York Times lays it bare!



http://www.nytimes.com/1984/03/14/business/brazil-wins-nigeria-pact.html

Born on Thursday the 17th December, 1942 in Daura, Katsina state, to a Fulani Chief, Ardo Adamu of Dumurkol, a village near Daura, and Hajiya Zulaihatu, a Hausa woman. He was a Gambo or Leko, as he arrived after the death of his older twin siblings. It is what the Yorubas would refer to as Idowu. That is the story of the parenthood of Major General Muhammadu Yassim Yinusa Buhari, the officer gentleman who, at three critical times, was well positioned to amass wealth for himself illegally but did not.
After attending primary schools at Daura and Mai’adua between 1948 and 1952, followed by a year stint at Katsina model school in 1953 and Katsina Provincial secondary school (now Government college Katsina) between 1956 and 1961; Buhari had a choice of training as a teacher, studying agriculture or joining the Army. He chose the profession of the arms. As a cadet, he was made a sergeant which was an early recognition of his leadership qualities by his superiors.
It was in August 1975 that Muhammadu Buhari first came into national visibility when he was appointed Military Governor of the North Eastern by the Murtala Muhammed’s regime. After the death of the General Murtala Muhammed, the new Lt. General Olusegun Obasanjo government appointed him as the Federal Commissioner for Petroleum resources (March 1976-July 1978) and later, Chairman of Nigerian National Petroleum Corporation, June 1978-July 1978. It was during his stewardship at the Petroleum ministry that two of the nation’s refineries (Warri and Kaduna) were built.
In 1983, the patriotic fervor of Buhari was rudely put to test when the Chadians, in a mindless expansionist adventure, invaded and occupied 19 islands in Lake Chad within Nigerian territory. As the General Officer Commanding (GOC) the 3rd armored corps, the then Brigadier Muhammadu Buhari successfully carried out a blockade forcing the return of the territories and thereafter pursued the Chadians as far as 50kms into Chadian territory. On an Internet discourse, Major-General (retired) Ishola Williams commented on this military feat thus: “He applied forward defense strategy at its best.”
Major-General Muhammadu Buhari bestrode the nation’s governance when he led the military putsch that overthrew the civilian regime of Alhaji Shehu Shagari. Prior to the take-over, the four-year-incursion of the civilian government had been horrific for Nigerians. The economy had been recklessly mismanaged to the extent that a chieftain of the ruling National Party of Nigeria, Alhaji Umaru Dikko, once asserted that there was no poverty in Nigeria because he had not seen any Nigerian feeding from the baggage dump! In his maiden speech, General Muhammadu Buhari left no one under any illusion that his regime came on a rescue mission from the executive brigandage of the civilian regime. As a last line, he opined: “This generation of Nigerians, and indeed future generations, have no country other than Nigeria. We shall remain here and salvage it together.”
The 20-month era of strong leadership espoused what later became known as ‘Buharinomics’, which simply put is an admixture of frugality, probity, respect for contractual agreements, expunction of all covert or overt attempts at subjugating the Nigerian economy to world powers and above all, economic policy with Nigeria as the center-piece. It is therefore, without any whiff of equivocation to state that the boldest attempt in the last thirty years at alleviating the pains of the teeming masses was during the enactment of Buharinomics. It was not surprising that the inflation rate was lowered by more than 18 points, from 23.2% in 1983 to 5.5% in 1985! The Buhari regime rebuffed all entreaties by IMF and World Bank to devalue the naira, remove subsidies on services and increase pump price on fuel.
It was arduous for the regime to cleanse the mess of the Shagari regime, which was characterized by unprecedented indiscipline –fiscal, institutional and governmental. With the mantra of War Against Indiscipline (WAI), a new direction was charted for Nigerians in ethical behavior in Public places.
With a persona that is hinged on self-abnegation, it was possible to insist on transparency within the polity. A military governor was relieved of his appointment for awarding N163, 000 (one hundred and sixty three thousand naira) contract without due consultation with the state executive council. The preceding politicians that corruptly enriched themselves were prosecuted and given long prison sentences. The former Director of NYSC, Col Peter Obasa and his accountant, Folorunsho Kila were found guilty and sentenced to 21years.
Owing to the damaging effect of currency trafficking outside the Nation’s shores, the Buhari administration decided to change the colors of the currency notes in April 1984. This yielded the desired result as N5Billion excess liquidity was mopped off! As a backlash on this exercise, there was insidious story from a section of the media that the Buhari regime allowed the Emir of Gwandu, Alhaji Jokolo to bring in 53 suitcases during the currecy change, thereby insinuating a case of double standard. Let it be said from the onset, the opinion tenaciously held on to about this incident was what was sold to the unsuspecting Nigerian public by a section of the press. So much hoodwinked that Buhari's explanation had never been heard!
This is what Buhari said about this:
"This is a typical case of the press believing what they want to believe. I hope it is not a reflection of the Nigerian society. I hope one day you will find the time to interview the Vice President on this. I understand he was the Customs officer in charge of the Murtala Mohammed airport, perhaps he knows more about it than myself. I have explained this so many times but the press write what they want to write and not what is factual."
Going down the memory lane, he added: "I recall the day in question. We were playing squash with my ADC when his father, the late Emir was returning to the country. He was a well-respected person. I prompted Jokolo to go and receive him even when he had no intention of doing so. By some coincidence his father was returning with my late chief of protocol who was an ambassador in Libya. He returned with his three wives and about 16 children. Everything about him including the handbag of his wives was counted as a suitcase. I explained this myself but nobody believed me."
The Vice-President referred to is Alhaji Atiku Abubakar, the man that is now desperately fighting for PDP nomination.
Some months ago when he Alhaji Atiku Abubakar gave inkling into his interest in the nation's presidency, anxious journalists wanted to know from him how he would manage the formidable competition from IBB. He smiled and calmly told them, "You people do not know that my friendship with General Babangida had been for at least ten years before i knew the late General Shehu Musa-Yar'adua."
As an undergraduate, I did a little bit of mathematical induction. Without doubt, Alhaji Atiku Abubakar was very friendly with General IBB (the serving Chief of Army staff) at the time of this 53-suitcase saga. We cannot infer anything yet, it is necessary to delve a little into IBB's subterfuge and fifth-columnist-posturing during the Buhari regime.
During the infamous Nigerian Medical Association (NMA)-induced doctors' strike of 1984/85, Dr Fashakin (a former NMA President in Ife zone) had in an internet discourse, graciously acknowledged the 'logistics' support extended to the ‘fleeing’ NMA executive members by the same Gen. IBB.
Col. Halilu Akilu (as Director military Intelligence) was reporting to Gen IBB as the Chief of Army staff. For inexplicable reason (except for sheer idiocy), Akilu ordered soldiers to invade the 2-park-lane-Apapa residence of the late Sage, Chief Obafemi Awolowo. Sometime ago, General Buhari was cornered and asked specifically about this incident. He said, "I did not order anybody to do this. It was the handiwork of the fifth columnist in our midst."
The Newsprints ordered by Concord Press (owned by Chief MKO Abiola) were seized by the Buhari regime because of infraction of the subsisting importation regulation. On the day (27th August, 1985) the Buhari regime was toppled, an airplane owned by Concord airline ferried General IBB from Minna to Lagos to assume leadership of the Nation. Did that suggest a friendship that facilitated the successful removal of the regime?
Was there a possibility of an alliance by General IBB and Alhaji Atiku Abubakar to embarrass the Buhari regime? I strongly believe so! I therefore make bold to declare that the 53-suitcase issue was a hoax! You are at liberty to hold on to your impression.
Buhari may have his foibles (as all humans do) but what his detractors cannot take away from him is his personal discipline with no avaricious desire for unjust gain. This means he is a man who has succeeded in putting his own self into some form of self -abnegation. Such is the man that can usher in a fresh air from the fouled political atmosphere within the polity. I challenge anyone to point to any assassination or assassination attempt (with the imprimatur of the state) during the Buhari regime. But what happened after his removal? All the succeeding regimes have been guilty of clandestinely eliminating voices of dissent within the polity. Though Gen IBB came smiling at everyone, including the Press; but before 15 months of his reign, a notable journalist had already been ‘parcel-bombed’! We virtually lost count of unresolved state-organized murders during the infamous civilian regime of Baba Iyabo the imperial president. The explanation for the unresolved assassination Chief Bola Ige SAN, the regime's minister of Justice still leaves much to be desired! This spate of murders to settle political scores has, unwittingly or wittingly, been replicated by the state governors. It is a rarity to find a state governor without murderous squads roaming freely for the next assignment to satisfy their sponsors.
It is against this backdrop that Nigerians, I mean concerned Nigerians believe that the next leadership is critical in moving the nation to the next level. It is clearly important that we can no longer operate the culture of government by settlement whereby less than 600 individuals collectively consume 25% of the nation's budget; according to the recent startling statistics by the CBN governor, Sanusi Lamido Sanusi.
Buhari had said he intends to extend the work-hours of Nigerians to 24-7; which means the
people should be free to move about at whatever time of the day as they choose. Who is able to do this? It is not what someone reads to us from a speech prepared by a consultant; but from someone whose antecedents bespeak of refusal to pander to the antics of the Breton Woods' institutions to further impoverish our people.
It was a clear attestation of his Spartan lifestyle that the Abacha military regime entrusted the management of the Petroleum Trust Fund (PTF) under his watch. There is no gain saying that PTF literally became the project arm of the government: Drugs supply to hospitals (especially Universities’ medical centers), road projects to hitherto unexplored rural areas clearly attest to his scrupulous assiduity.
What is the state of the republic as we speak? The parlous state of the economy is aptly captured in the fact that for the past eight months, the foreign reserves have been depleted by $8Billion, with the inflation rate as high as 14% and still rising. More worrisome is the depletion of the excess crude account from $22Billion to $470million with no corresponding economy-impacting capital projects to justify the expenditure.
Newton's second law of Motion states that: "Everybody continues in a state of rest or uniform motion unless compelled by an external force." If there is no meaningful intervention from a confirmed patriot, our democracy (or demonstration of craze, apology to Fela Anikulapo-Kuti) is doomed for failure.
It is for these reasons and many more that General Muhammadu Buhari has taken up the gauntlet (through the support of Nigerians across the geo-political divide) to save the polity just one more time. The espousal of the new Nigeria would be dependent on the choice we make in April 2011. The Executive Presidents we have had in the last twelve years have not emerged from their visionary desire for the office but as a result of overbearing superimposition by entrenched interests. That would largely account for the rudderless leadership that had, unfortunately, been foisted on us. On the contrary, Muhammadu Buhari, with his antecedents of transparent and impactful governance, has with again shown uncanny indefatigability in offering himself for the needed rescue operation on the nation. Will this third attempt be the defining moment for the Nigerian nation? We stand at the threshold of history as true greatness beckons!
God bless the Federal Republic of Nigeria.

A party founded on lies cannot be trusted. With the future of our dear nation.

The real reason why I do not support APC is because they thrive on lies and misinformation.

AreaFada2:
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Like Buhari struggling to present school cert, lots of his apologists are not very enlightened people. As represented by Victor "Penarity" Ikpeba. .

Buhari represents "Olodo come good" dream of school drop-outs. You know those people parroting "nor be education dey make person rich" but use the services of a doctor, dentist, lawyer, surveyor, accountant, pilot, journalist, architect, engineers etc.
They have little regard for critical analysis, statistics, empiricism or written history. Lies, sentiments, emotional outbursts, threat, intimidation, hearsay and rumours make more sense to them.

Una welcome o.

The masters have arrived Nairaland.

There are some things I used to read on this forum, I will start questioning myself if some humanbeings have reduced their mentality to that of animals.

At least, the educated and guilt stricken ones under APC can still have a rethink with these revelations coming before the elections..