hotwax:


[size=18pt]So in short Stealing is not corruption? You deserve the president you get. What a shame? And International society will hear this and will make mockery of the black country of Monkey as usual.

So because of PDP/Jonathan, we need to re-categorize corruption?

Nigeria is not using British English?[/size]

Some people are cursed.

Jesusloveyou:
u can't understand simple english,d stealing in government is called corruption,dishonest and frudulent act of govt.if u steal drug in ur office is thief or ole,if u collect money to pass student is stealing but if u bribe govt ministry of education to pass ur candidate in state exam(ssce) is corruption.any stealing that does not affect d state(govt) is thief or ole.again a private bank stealing is corruption because it involve state(govt) which make them PLC OR LTD.

adanny01:


Dont you have Google to find out for yourself, haba! You are on the Internet right now but you cant check a definition for yourself. You are doing a great disservice to yourself and the nation if you cant verify a simple thing like a definition. The dictionary or Google has a lot of synonyms which stealing isn't one. If you want it added, i cant do that for you, send an appeal to OED (Oxford English Dictionary) with proof of why it needs to be added. Google is your friend my brother.

Ahmeduana:
Is Prof Osinbajo slow in simple comprehension
or what?
Jonathan was explicit in explaining himself.
He stated that he had a parley with a former CJN
on the incidence of corruption/crime.
He posited that Justice Mustapha disclosed that
over 70% of the cases under the judge's purview
were actually outright theft being branded as
corruption. He was making a case that what
people normally give the appellation of corruption
are nothing short of thievery.
Instead of branding a public official guilty of
misappropriation as corrupt, he was suggesting
that a more apt or grievous term should be
applied. Let the guilty official be addressed as the
thief that s/he is so as to serve as a deterrent to
others.
So what is difficult for this APC man to
understand?
COMMON SENSE IS NOT FOR COMMON PEOPLE.

OrlandoOwoh:

Osinbajo is not new to politics. He is far better a politician than Jonathan, an opportunist.

thegoodjoehunt3:

dishonest or fraudulent conduct by those in power, typically involving bribery." = Corruption.

Let us break down your definition of corruption.
1. Dishonest or fraudulent.
2. In Power.

The bribery listed there is for clarification.

No a government official stealing, is he
1. Dishonest and fraudulent? Yes.
2. Is he in power? Yes. So how can GEJ say stealing is not Corruption?

steal
stēl
verb
present participle: stealing
1.
take (another person's property) without permission or legal right and without intending to return it.

adanny01:


Once you accept the fact that the act which a government official is found wanting is called fraud or fraudulent, stealing was not the act. So you are wrong to say he committed stealing but he committed fraud. The two are not related in the context of government official. You may refer to the definition of stealing.



Stealing refers to property

thegoodjoehunt3:
Why not explain and let people access your take on the matter. Do you agree or disagree with the President?

I do not agree with him. Corruption = Abuse of power for personal gain including abuse of power to steal things.

thegoodjoehunt3:
Do you read what you post?

In the definition you posted, stealing involves taking so etching without legal right. If a corrupt official fraudulently takes [b]money [/b]or property without legal right, is that not stealing?

GEJ is wrong here. Prof. Osinbanjo is right. There is no way it can be spun.

Calculia:
Those in power alone? Prof u don fall my hand...


Besides, what we have in Nigeria is beyond that gentle man definition.


As GEJ put it, in Nigeria we have thieves not corruption.

sirfemoz:

Thanks for your effort and answer.. I really appreciate.. Then can you say that stealing is corruption? If you say so, then you will agree a little kid that stole snacks or a biro from his fellow kid in school is a corrupt kid

adanny01:


Where you are making a mistake is that the definition of stealing says property while fraud is money. Fraud in government is corruption. Fraud in a bank remains fraud.

Get it straight this last time
Stealing is as to property
Fraud is as to money

while Fraud in government is corruption
fraud in the private sector is still fraud.

Get it?

adaweezy:
thought I was the only one who knew President Jonathan cannot define corruption

adanny01:


Where you are making a mistake is that the definition of stealing says property while fraud is money. Fraud in government is corruption. Fraud in a bank remains fraud.

Get it straight this last time
Stealing is as to property
Fraud is as to money and others

while Fraud in government is corruption
fraud in the private sector is still fraud.

Stealing is physical property while fraud is not but includes only physical cash or documents

Get it?

coolbis:
4 God's sake how wil u find a politician stealing money directly, wat dey do is inflate project money or dnt execute it all... And dat is corruption

thegoodjoehunt3:

Consumed: How Markets Corrupt Children, Infantilize Adults, and Swallow Citizens Whole

That is a title of a book on Amazon. Children can be corrupt. Movies and music videos can corrupt kids.

sirfemoz:

You didn't answer my question.. Yet some are here critisizing GEJ for not giving a direct answer.. If from your own view, stealing is corruption..then what will you say about a person that enters banking hall, instead of joining the queue and wait for his turn, he jumped the queue.. What of someone that never pays nepa bill, instead he choses to tip nepa officials? What of someone that will never study to pass examination, instead they choose to tip the lecturer in a word know as "sorting"? And so on..

maestroferddi:
Is Prof Osinbajo slow in simple comprehension or what?

Jonathan was explicit in explaining himself.

He stated that he had a parley with a former CJN on the incidence of corruption/crime.

He posited that Justice Mustapha disclosed that over 70% of the cases under the judge's purview were actually outright theft being branded as corruption. He was making a case that what people normally give the appellation of corruption are nothing short of thievery.

Instead of branding a public official guilty of misappropriation as corrupt, he was suggesting that a more apt or grievous term should be applied. Let the guilty official be addressed as the thief that s/he is so as to serve as a deterrent to others.
With all the theft and stealing, how many have been arrested, prosecuted, and jailed under GEJ government? We the number under GMB government.

So what is difficult for this APC man to understand?

thegoodjoehunt3:
I do not get your point. Are you saying money can not be stolen by government officials? SMH.

myhoodlink:
These were the words of President GEJ which many have misrepresented
Asked about his 'Stealing is not corruption' comment, president Jonathan said he never said stealing is not corruption -
"The word corruption we have abused it and it's not making so much sense. I did not say stealing is not corruption. I made that statement in reference to ex-CJN, Justice Musdapher. A thief should be called a thief. Ole should be called ole! If you say somebody is corrupt people don't know what you mean". He added "A thief is a thief. Don't use the word corruption to cover stealing. Call the person a thief"

maestroferddi:
Is Prof Osinbajo slow in simple comprehension or what?

Jonathan was explicit in explaining himself.

He stated that he had a parley with a former CJN on the incidence of corruption/crime.

He posited that Justice Mustapha disclosed that over 70% of the cases under the judge's purview were actually outright theft being branded as corruption. He was making a case that what people normally give the appellation of corruption are nothing short of thievery.

Instead of branding a public official guilty of misappropriation as corrupt, he was suggesting that a more apt or grievous term should be applied. Let the guilty official be addressed as the thief that s/he is so as to serve as a deterrent to others.
So what is difficult for this APC man to understand?

thegoodjoehunt3:
Money is Property. Now read your definition of stealing again.

myhoodlink:
These were the words of President GEJ which many have misrepresented


Asked about his 'Stealing is not corruption' comment, president Jonathan said he never said stealing is not corruption -
"The word corruption we have abused it and it's not making so much sense. I did not say stealing is not corruption. I made that statement in reference to ex-CJN, Justice Musdapher. A thief should be called a thief. Ole should be called ole! If you say somebody is corrupt people don't know what you mean". He added "A thief is a thief. Don't use the word corruption to cover stealing. Call the person a thief"

Hatred is worse than any sin one can think of. Some hate the President just because of what others have said about him. God knows the hearts of all humans.

God bless President Goodluck Jonathan

hammedyusuf64:
yes GEJ is a corrupt leader.... change is what we need

adanny01:


You like Jonathan think we are illiterates? If you have a phone that has internet, go to google and type "CORRUPTION".

This is what comes out.



This is from Google and it is international accepted. Why do you and your oga Jona want to redefine it, to suit your failures? In the synonyms, there is nothing like "stealing" or "thieving", either this president is actually dull or has no conscience.
rong. It is not only in public environment we have corruption.