let me pack here

Deeper life or deeper toto,say whatever you want to say,we have decide to have a change. Sai Buhari.

Pastor Kumuyi would never say that. Even if pressed by the press he will tactically avoid it.

.

OK

The same christian will cry wolves that corruption is in high heavens. I guess if the righteous rules, no more egunje for the pastors who will always get envelop for praying for politicians.
The question still remains
WHEN WILL THE RIGHTEOUS RULE THE NATION.
must the pastors continue to run after the corrupt politicians?

rawpadgin:
did i said every Muslim is an unbeliever

So....any muslim who works for GEJ is to be regarded as a Christian.?

Politics really leads to some strange logic.

kitnah:
A good christain will not involve himself with politics.
I still cant fathom why a pastor shld divulge in politics

So only atheist should involve in politics abi?

kitnah:
A good christain will not involve himself with politics.
I still cant fathom why a pastor shld divulge in politics

Politics is for everybody, a pastor is first of all a Christian even Mathew was a tax collector in his
days

David was a King, yet God said he was a man after his heart

kitnah:
A good christain will not involve himself with politics.
I still cant fathom why a pastor shld divulge in politics

So GEJ is a BAD Christian, eh?

I like your reasoning.....not!

raumdeuter:


What makes one an unbeliever? or what made Buhari an unbeliever and Sambo not?

One is an Islamic fundamentalist while the other is not. One believes in political Islam while the other is not. One is an extremist who supports BH while the other is not. Be properly guided.

rawpadgin:
to pastor osinbajo

Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?

Leadership is not about being a believer or an unbeliever. Leadership is about service.

Come to think of it, we are all unbelievers when we abhor righteousness by our words, actions and inactions.
The thing is: Who the crown fits, let him wear it.

SMH...Nigerians will always be so "religious" but not Godly.

1Dray:
The Bible was clear on this... "Meddle not with them that are given to 'Change'"

Surely, in them (Change fellows) encompasses hypocrisy. Woe betides these wolfs in sheep clothing.

Maranatha!

The truth is that christians can get involve in politics but not a pastor who had been called by God into full time ministry. All he can do is to counsel, advise and encourage whose interest is in politics on how to play in as a christian. For a pastor to go into politics mean he has lose sight and vision of his calling hence he can't feed and tend for the flock of God that was committed to his care.

ogene007:

One is an Islamic fundamentalist while the other is not. One believes in political Islam while the other is not. One is an extremist who supports BH while the other is not. Be properly guided.

And some of the people that are on YOUR side say that ALL muslims are the same...so that means the PDP muslims must be baaad.

Give it up.....your mixing of politics with religion is leading you down the strange path......

kennygee:
Pastor Kumuyi did not lie now.

I don't see how an anointed man of God can engage in Nigerian Politics without soiling his hands.

are you a christian? What about david and solomon in the bible? Were they not kings? Is that not leadership?? Politices?? Your a christian that never go to church.

frankmishael1:
thank you Jesus Christ our God.
for choosing Gej

And thank you JESUS CHRIST for choosing GMB.

Grahamjnr:
The truth is that christians can get involve in politics but not a pastor who had been called by God into full time ministry. All he can do is to counsel, advise and encourage whose interest is in politics on how to play in as a christian. For a pastor to go into politics mean he has lose sight and vision of his calling hence he can't feed and tend for the flock of God that was committed to his care.

How do you know he was called into full time ministry? Oh! You were there when he received the calling

Grahamjnr:
The truth is that christians can get involve in politics but not a pastor who had been called by God into full time ministry. All he can do is to counsel, advise and encourage whose interest is in politics on how to play in as a christian. For a pastor to go into politics mean he has lose sight and vision of his calling hence he can't feed and tend for the flock of God that was committed to his care.

Thanks a lot for saying that Martin Luther King (a pastor) was wrong for involving himself in the political fight to free African Americans in the 1960's from racial discrimination.

BTW...Osibanjo's primary occupation is lawyer....not pastor.

ArchEnemy:
Except you are called or specially anointed, a righteous heavenly minded christain wont go and entangle

himself wih Nigerian politics.. leave the church alone.

SECONDED!!

SeverusSnape:
Bunch of jokers... Just imagine this rubbish...

Who are the "ungodly" he was referring to?... Muslims?.. Atheists?... Traditional worshippers

I laugh at the stupidity of APC.... They want to "Christianise" politics. Buhari will choose the Pope as his running mate in 2019. Rubbish!!!

Ungodly politicians steal pension funds meant for old people and refuse to also develop the healthcare system. This is ungodly acts.People have to advertise on the pages of newspapers soliciting for funds for healthcare treatment, what about thousands of people that don't know people in the media houses

frankmishael1:
thank you Jesus Christ our God.
for choosing Gej

kings09:
And thank you JESUS CHRIST for choosing GMB.

The two of you...which kind of Christianity are you practicing.? Man-centeredianity....or Christ-ianity?

[color=#006600] 28 don reach [/the color]

ArchEnemy:
Except you are called or specially anointed, a righteous heavenly minded christain wont go and entangle

himself wih Nigerian politics.. leave the church alone.

The message should also be deirected to Gej who assumes the robes of righteousness
Moving from one church to another pretending to be an anointed man

Any pastor that abandons his pastoral "calling" for political office was never a called pastor by God in first instance.
Some are called by God.
Others are called by men.
Some called themselves.

Peter said in Acts ch. 6 tha 'It is not right for us to leave the ministry of the word & prayers to serve tables'.

Every pastor called by God has one job, PRAYERS & THE WORD & nothing else.

kennygee:
Pastor Kumuyi did not lie now.

I don't see how an anointed man of God can engage in Nigerian Politics without soiling his hands.

This comment just endeared u to me, in fact u r a duurrlliinng!

bushdoc9919:


Thanks a lot for saying that Martin Luther King (a pastor) was wrong for involving himself in the political fight to free African Americans in the 1960's from racial discrimination.

BTW...Osibanjo's primary occupation is lawyer....not pastor.

Tell them!

They all seem to forget that!

SAN no be small thing

luvinhubby:
Any pastor that abandons his pastoral "calling" for political office was never a called pastor by God in first instance.
Some are called by God.
Others are called by men.
Some called themselves.

Peter said in Acts ch. 6 tha 'It is not right for us to leave the ministry of the word & prayers to serve tables'.

Every pastor called by God has one job, PRAYERS & THE WORD & nothing else.

Was Acts chapter 6 used in relation to political leadership, or church leadership.?

Don't twist scripture. If it wasn't for some clerics being political....

[size=18pt]Gen Buhari Insults The Sensibility Of Christians With APC Political Pastors[/size]
This is simply a case of Gen Buhari religious bigotry gone a step too far.

Call for imposition of Sharia all across the country, even in the mainly Christian south.

Earlier, the former military ruler of Nigeria, Muhammadu Buhari, has called for the introduction of 'total' Islamic law across the country. Buhari, who ruled Nigeria from a coup that displaced the democratically elected government of Shagari in December 1983 to his ouster in 1985, told a seminar in Kaduna, northern Nigeria, that the strict Islamic law code known as the Sharia should be introduced in full across Nigeria.

Notwithstanding, that Africa's most populous country has been shaken repeatedly in the past by religious unrest. In February 2000 between 2 000 and 3 000 people were killed by Christian-Muslim riots in Kaduna over the introduction of Sharia.

Northern Nigeria is mainly Muslim but southern Nigeria is mainly Christian and has led criticism of the introduction of Islamic law in a dozen northern states in the past 18 months by the then government of Olusegun Obasanjo.

Gen Buhari categorically stated that;"I will continue to show openly and inside me the total commitment to the Sharia movement that is sweeping all over Nigeria," Buhari said, "God willing, we will not stop the agitation for the total implementation of the Sharia in the country," Buhari said.

"Buhari calls for Sharia in all states, was defended by supporters as simply a call for the full implementation of Sharia in areas where Muslims predominated.


Buhari Politics of Religion an affront to the sensibility of Christians

The comments are the second by Buhari that have courted controversy after he called earlier this year for Muslims to vote at the next presidential elections only for someone who would defend their faith. This was criticised by the press as[b] a call for voting along religious lines[/b], as well as an attack on the current president, Goodluck Ebele Jonathan, who is a Christian. Buhari made the latest comments at a seminar organised by the Supreme Council for Sharia in Nigeria, a newly set up body attended by northern state governments and Islamic scholars.

Buhari categorically said; "It is a legal responsibility which God has given us, within the context of one Nigeria, to continue to uphold the practice of Sharia wholeheartedly ... and to educate non-Muslims that they have nothing to fear," he said.

"What remains for Muslims in Nigeria is for them to redouble their efforts, educate Muslims on the need to promote the full implementation of Sharia law," [/b]he went on. - AFP


Buhari recourse to political pastors at the eleventh hour an act of political desperation or ridicule of the Christian faith


In December 17, 2014 APC announces Pastor Yemi Osinbajo as Gen. Buhari's running mate. A Pastor at Olive Tree House of Prayer for All Nations, Banana Island, a parish of the Redeemed Christian Church of God. APC not satisfied with this appointment then created a fake twitter @RCCGWorldwide account of RCCG to announce the endorsement of Pastor Yemi by the General Oversea of RCCG Pastor Adeboye.
This move prompted Pastor Adeboye through his verified Facebook page to disowned the Twitter handle and condemns yet another desperate scheme by the APC.

In the Facebook post, Pastor Adeboye said; [b]“On behalf of The Governing Council of The Redeemed Christian Church of God, we would like to inform the public that RCCG is not affiliated nor represented by @rccgworldwide. The church’s official twitter page is @rccghq. The church cherishes the right of all citizens to participate in the democratic process to vote."

We have no doubts that the APC is a Party that attempts to use and parade Pastors as VP candidates to divide or mislead the innocent sheep and Nigerians with cherished Conservative or Liberal views and clear the known perception of Bigotry hanging over the head of its candidate and one time dictactor, General Buhari.

Other statements from the Church's AUTHENTIC twitter Handle Include:@rccghq: “RCCG is not affiliated nor represented by @rccgworldwide.
“The church’s official twitter page is @rccghq.”In no fewer than four other tweets, the church equally faulted the endorsement of Osinbajo by the creators of @rccgworldwide.One of the tweets by the Pastors reads: “RCCG has not celebrated anybody for any position in the forthcoming elections! The #OfficialRCCG handle is @rccghq. Do not be misled.” Another reads: “We are a mission and we do not meddle into politics #RCCG #OfficialRCCG @RCCGworldwide is wrong.”Another said: “#OfficialRCCG – @rccghq We do not denounce neither do we endorse candidacies for elections. We are not a political party.


APC Political Pastor Ejike Mbaka and the church drama

Mr. Mbaka, renowned for his blunt sermons, has a huge followership in the South East of Nigeria, where thousands of Catholics throng to his prayer ground for healing and miracles.

In gospel of Mark 12:17 Jesus Christ himself said; "Give back to Caesar what is Caesar's and to God what is God's." and in John 2:16 Jesus Christ said "Get these things out of here. Stop turning my Father's house into a marketplace."

This very vital passage in the bible was not applicable to the Political Pastor Ejike Mbaka, who devoted his entire new years sermon to the condemnation of authority that he vocally endorsed only weeks back. Political Pastor Mbaka in his entire sermon ranted about material things and money with no mention of the thing of the spirit.

Ejike Mbaka stated: "When the Goodluck met Yar’Adua, the Yar’Adua had a bad luck and died. Before you know it, the Goodluck met our oil and the oil had a bad luck and poured away, before we knew it, the Goodluck met our naira, our naira had a bad luck."


Further Ejike Mbaka argued that:"The Christmas season that should be a good luck time became a bad luck time for our Nigerians, forgetting that very soon, from 3rd January, the children will go back to school and the parents are going to pay school fees. From where? Are they going to use their urine to pay? (Shout of NO from the congregation). Even if they are going to use their urine, you have to drink, but where is the good water? Are they going to use their stool to pay the school fees of their children? (Shout of NO from the congregation).
You have to eat well to defecate."

From this extract of the APC Political Pastor , it is clear he had entertained the fantasy of monetary reward following his earlier endorsement of GEJ, only to deliver the new year sermon in disappointment after it became clear that GEJ was a man of integrity and offers no bribe. The support GEJ enjoys from all well meaning Nigerians are free and not bought.

Kumuyi telling prof dumbyemi dumobanjo the truth. He would live to become the most disgraced pastor when the allegations starts pouring in.

This is just a faction of APC. They should relax. I see nothing wrong in what the pastor said. Osibanjo is not the only pastor involved in politics. Bakare is there, CAN President is there. And alots of pastors have been accused of collecting bribes. I see no reason why this faction should take this personal cos I see to direct connection with APC.

To be candid...u cant engage in Nigeria'ss politics and not soil your hands.