hahhahhahhah right!!!! like i always say, its just me against nigerian politicians; if only they could wake their smelly ass up and see the world, the outsiders hate nigeria like shit, afraicans inclusive!!! u had governor that travel to paris,london,newyork shagg white toto, sleep in the best hotel that a common man cant even use their bar cuz of the security locks u walk through

As yall know, i have let the ghana must go people know what the time is, so that thread me done with, and as for those nigerians out there that love to fool themselves, me say carry on, the next thing u know, oh i got ghana must go friends they are nice people

In 2008 when that masai bush forest man was running his mouth i dd say that kenya is more corrupt than nigeria, the whole world was after me. the nigeria are bang wagons, they think they have worse, but looking at the positive side, i see love for their country


now kenya am about to tell that this superman aka ikeyman is still kicking, Nigeria will always be king of africa, like it or not

ok kenya here we come

if u think nigerian police is corrupt, plz watch out for massia game park officers

these people could come in here, pretendin they can fool us, like we dnt know how retard and lay back they are

they are wrong!

Corruption 'costs Kenya $1bn a year'
BBC may 30 2003

The police force is said to be one of Kenya's most corrupt institutions
Corruption is costing Kenya as much as $1bn a year, which new anti-corruption measures will hopefully recoup to help provide better public services to Kenyans, the government believes.
Despite rich natural resources, Kenya's growth has stagnated for years, with the economy expanding by just 1.1% in 2002, said Planning Minister Peter Anyang' Nyong'o.

Part of the reason was rampant corruption costing as much as 68bn shillings ($932m; £565m) a year - nearly a quarter of annual government spending, he said.

The reluctance of previous administrations to tackle corruption led to the suspension of international loans to Kenya, an obstacle which the new government of President Mwai Kibaki hopes to overcome.

In the meantime, government spending is set to increase in an effort to reduce poverty.

During former President Daniel arap Moi's 25-year rule, inflation stayed relatively low.

"That's the macroeconomic environment," said Mr Nyong'o, "but people can't eat the macro-economic environment."

16 times a month

Mr Kibaki, who succeeded Mr Moi in December, has introduced new anti-corruption measures, including the unceremonious sacking of every single government procurement chief earlier this week.

A survey carried out by the finance ministry "established that there is a serious and widespread abuse of office by officers charged with this responsibility", Finance Minister David Mwiraria said in a statement.

Most procurement officers, he said, owned companies which won government contracts but never - or only partially - produced the goods and services for which they had already been paid.

Kenya is generally seen as one of the most corrupt countries on the planet, ranking 96th of 102 in the 2002 Corruption Perceptions Index developed by pressure group Transparency International.

Its "Daily Bribery Survey" suggested that Kenyans pay on average 16 bribes a month, simply to get on with their ordinary lives.

Transparency's Kenya chapter head, John Githongo, has been placed in charge of anti-corruption efforts.

guess the lay-back haters got the police they deserve

Kenyan police 'refund bribes' 28 may 2003 BBC NEWS


Police in central Kenya have been forced to refund bribes after the people they extorted them from stormed a police station, reports say.

A lawyer representing more than 20 people arrested for being drunk and disorderly led his clients in storming the station in the district of Meru, demanding a refund.


The police force is said to be one of Kenya's most corrupt institutions


According to the Daily Nation newspaper, the shocked police officers handed over some 8,700 Kenyan shillings ($100) they had taken in bribes from the group.

The Kenyan shilling's value has been considerably eroded by inflation over the years, but 100 shillings buys a bottle of beer in a restaurant.

The reports come at time when the new Kenyan Government, which came to power after elections last December, has promised to stamp down on corruption.

But a Kenyan police spokesman denied that the police had taken or refunded any bribes.

"There was a scramble at the police station as the police refunded money earlier paid by the suspects as standard police bond to make sure they appeared in court.

"Some people mistakenly thought that the police were refunding bribes," the police spokesman said.

Culture of corruption

Corruption has affected all levels of Kenyan life, with many regarding the police force as one of the most corrupt national institutions.

The results of a survey conducted by a corruption watchdog Transparency International indicated that the police were still the main culprits when it comes to demanding bribes.

The new Kenyan Government, headed by President Mwai Kibaki, was elected on an anti-corruption platform.

And since it came into power ordinary Kenyans seem to have become emboldened and are now challenging the culture of bribe-taking, not just in the police force, but in other public and private sector institutions.

The public service mini-buses, popularly known as Matatus, have displayed a rare show of defiance by refusing to bribe traffic policemen.

For a long time, the Matatus, many of them unroadworthy and often overloaded with passengers, were a major source of bribes for the policemen

Traffickers' drugs haven in Kenya 
By Karen Allen
BBC News, Mombasa  9 may 2006


The Kenyan sea port of Mombasa, one of East Africa's busiest, is now seen as a key staging post in the international drugs trail.
 
They go to Karachi in Pakistan and bring it to Kenya

Drug addict Abbas

Overlooking the coast, shaded by a tree, I met Abbas injecting himself with heroin.

Once a bus conductor with a couple of kids, he has been hooked on the drug for the past six years.

Dealers target addicts like him, but the real money is being made shifting drugs overseas. Abbas explains how it works.

becomeric

"They go to Karachi, Pakistan. They take it and bring it to Kenya," he says.

"Then they take it from Kenya to Kampala [in Uganda]; they take it to other countries."

The fact that Kenya is grappling with two simultaneous challenges - a growing indigenous drug problem and high levels of corruption - make it a convenient transit and storage point for international drug cartels.

No convictions

According to the United Nations Office of Drugs and Crime, heroin seizures have doubled in Kenya in the past five years.

KENYA'S NARCOTIC RECORD

Local use: 0.5%, more than 60% found in urban areas
Heroin: seizures doubled in past five years
Biggest seizure: 1.1 metric tons of cocaine, worth $90m
Main home-grown crops: Cannabis, khat
From lecturer to trafficker

Murad Saad works with addicts and says the police turn a blind eye to dealing on the street so why should it be any different for drugs just passing through?

"They know who these people are, yet we don't seem to see any changes. Even if they do make an arrest, within a day the person is already out because he's posted bail and if he ever gets to go to court, he also gets out," he says.

"We've not seen any tangible convictions or anything really tangible being done. "

The problem started back in the 1980s with heroin being brought onto Kenya's shores.

Now, the narcotics gangs have used the same tricks to traffic cocaine.

December 2004 saw the biggest ever seizure of the drug - 1.1 metric tons, equivalent to $90m - a little further up the coast, in Malindi.

Mules

But the very size of it clearly showed that it was not destined for Kenya, but for other, more lucrative, markets overseas.


 
We cannot be blind to the fact that we have a very poor record

Police spokesman Gideon Kibunja

The drug was destroyed in a very public display back in February.

Since then, there have been a number of drug seizures, including $600,000 worth of cocaine, detected at Nairobi's main airport recently.

So, do senior police officers accept that Kenya is now an established transit point for drugs, fuelled by corruption?

"We cannot be blind to the fact that we have a very poor record. Law enforcement is very thin on the ground," says Gideon Kibunja, spokesman for Kenya Police.

"At the same time, it is admittable, although it's regrettable, that there is quite a bit of corruption in the country and efforts to try and stamp it out are going on."

Mules

It is something that worries Titus Naikuni, chief executive of Kenya Airways.

 
There are a few who are already hooked into drug trafficking and maybe they might not be able to get out of it

Kenya Airways' Titus Naikuni

His airline crews have been amongst those used as drug mules.

Five of his staff have been arrested over the past year, trying to bring narcotics into Europe.

With extra security measures now in place, he says his employees are aware that international drug cartels are now targeting them.

"I am seeing the realisation by staff that it is dangerous to get involved with drug trafficking," Mr Naikuni says.

"Unfortunately, there are a few who are already hooked into it and maybe they might not be able to get out of it, but we are tracking them."

Poverty, corruption and geography all conspire to make Kenya an attractive transit and storage point for drugs, but so too does a lack of awareness about the home-grown drugs problem.

'National disaster'

Historically, drugs intended for overseas have spilled onto the local market, fuelling demand.


Some believe police turn a blind eye to dealing

Dennis Wachira Heineman, who runs an addiction clinic, says there is still naivety about drug use in Kenya - particularly worrying when injecting drug use is on the rise.

He blames the authorities for being slow to grasp the problem and wants to view to the situation as a national disaster.

"That means creating awareness to the public, tightening up the court system in terms of one recognising who is an addict, who's a dealer; giving stiff sentences to the dealers and helping to treat the people who are addicts," he says.

Although compared to richer countries, drug use in Kenya is relatively low, less than 0.5% of the population, there is a sense that with more narcotics seeping in, and a continued climate of corruption, that could rise.

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Hunger and misery ravage Kenya 10-01-2008 bbc
By Adam Mynott
North-eastern Kenya


"When the camels start dying, that's when it's getting bad," says Captain Wachilu, a young Kenyan army officer in charge of the government food distribution in the Wajir region.


Water holes are drying up quickly

His assessment is impossible to disagree with.

He sends out five trucks a day to different villages dotted across Wajir.

They are loaded with maize, rice, milk-powder and cooking oil.

Every few kilometres alongside the rutted, dusty tracks, the convoy trundles past the carcasses of dead animals.

The bodies of cows, goats and the occasional camel which have succumbed to starvation and heat have been picked at by hyenas and vultures.

Any vehicle driving through this barren landscape is confronted along the road by villagers waving empty plastic bottles, saucepans, bowls - anything that might hold any drop of precious water.

Stick-thin

The last time in rained in Wajir was in the final week of November.


Ehula Golid has lost more than half his herd and locals say dozens of children have died

But what fell from the skies was not the usual two weeks of steady precipitation soaking into the soil, filling the rivers and aquifers.

It rained for just a day and a half - the second time in the year that seasonal rains failed.

This immediately spelled disaster for the pastoralist community. No rain - no grazing.

Many moved their animals away; those who remained have watched their stock dying in increasing numbers.

Ehula Golid, used to have 46 cows. Now he has 21 and they are stick-thin and sick.


Africa's food crisis can be blamed on none other than overzealous NGOs who in their zeal to do good do not realise that they perpetuate the continent into permanent dependency

Deng Dekuek, Perth

I bumped into him alongside one of the few remaining water holes in Wajir. It is no longer really a water hole, more like a mud pool, but it does offer animals the chance to take on some fluid.

But there is no grass to eat and nearby, Ehula showed me the bodies of six of his cows which had died from starvation.

In the predominately pastoralist community in north-east Kenya, when the animals start to die the threat to human life is almost immediate.

Waiting for rain

Wajir District Hospital has a tiny paediatric ward.

Fifteen of its 20 beds are occupied by malnourished children.


The government has started feeding programmes
In the past few weeks, six infants have died at the hospital from hunger-related ailments, and some of the some children lying with their mothers in the ward look desperately unwell.

Muslima is 15-months-old.

She arrived at the hospital three days ago suffering from vomiting, diarrhoea, dehydration and malnourishment. She weighs just 4.9kg.

Every rough thatched house in every village in Wajir district seems to hold a pitiful tale.

In Macoror village, Yunis Mohammed Hassan is looking after three of his children while his wife has taken two others to hospital.

"I used to be a rich man," he said. "I had 160 cattle. Now I have 2. I have no money, no work, my children are sick. What do I do?"


Children in Wajir's hospital are malnourished
His misery is mirrored in the faces of all his neighbours. They know it will not rain again until April, and their plight will only get worse.

They say that hunger has killed 32 people, mostly children, in their village alone, suggesting that the official figure of 40 deaths so far nationwide could be a gross underestimate.

The Kenyan government has started a feeding programme and the World Food Programme of the United Nations and others have been distributing food aid.

But the region is short of supplies and the demand is rising. The Kenyan government has appealed for $150m to save the lives of people threatened by famine.

The drought is also affecting neighbouring countries: Southern Sudan, Ethiopia, Somalia and Djibouti.

Kenya: Struggling for peace


hmmmmmmmmm peaceful kenya


By Karen Allen
BBC News, Nairobi 19-aug 2008


When Raila Odinga and President Mwai Kibaki signed a peace deal on 27 February, ending Kenya's post-election violence, people took to the streets to celebrate.

The agreement, hammered out by Kofi Annan after weeks of political wrangling, paved the way for a grand coalition government. It was a breakthrough in a part of the world where traditionally winner takes all.

Kenya, of enormous strategic influence in the "war on terror", found itself under pressure from the international community to secure a deal that would quickly restore its status as one of Africa's most stable states.

Eventually the rivals relented and signed a deal that brought the country back from the brink of civil war.


Violence in Kenya sparked fears of a civil war

Six months on and the coalition is still intact, the western backers have sighed with relief but the fissures that fuelled the violence are still there.

Tens of thousands of displaced people are still in tented camps.

Others have been forced to return to their "homelands", chased away after the election because their grandparents were not born in the place they chose to farm.

This is one of the biggest challenges the new coalition government now faces.

Violence probe

"We are under pressure to behave like a coherent nation… but the truth is those issues remain very much unresolved," says political commentator Parselelo Kantai.

Commissions of enquiry have been established to examine the circumstances of the disputed election and the violence that quickly followed.

But many Kenyans have little faith that their recommendations will be adopted, given past experience of such tribunals.

Land, ethnicity and the distribution of power are key areas that Kenya's politicians ignore at their peril.


Around 600,000 people were displaced due to the unrest

Land lies at the heart of Kenya's historic grievances. Three-quarters of the population still lives in rural areas, many relying on what they grow to survive. But land is also about ethnic identity and ancestry.

Joseph Wanjama is a living example of that. He is among the many people chased away from the Rift Valley Town of Kericho back in January. He is Kikuyu - a member of President Kibaki's tribe. An entire community held responsible for an election widely seen as a fraud.

Mr Wanjama's home is now a tented camp in the town of Nakuru.

But he agreed to venture back for a few hours to Kericho - the place which he fled. It was not his ancestral heartland but he had made a life for himself there, employing dozens of people from outside his own tribe.

Within minutes of arriving in what is still a tense town, we find members of the rival Kalenjin community now occupying his business.

And the staff quarters where dozens of craftsmen once lived are now partially destroyed and being looked after by a Kalenjin friend.

"They tell us it isn't over yet," Mr Wanjama whispers. "If we come back, something bad will happen."

This is not paranoia, it is the aftershocks that follow when a country, once a model of peace, crosses the line.

Land reform

In many places communities are forbidden to return, their tormentors saying that only once amnesty is granted to those accused of post election crimes will real peace be restored.

Extra security has been put in place to try to entice communities back. But it is not working.


About 1,500 people died in clashes after December's presidential poll.

Many Kenyans harbour dreams of land reform.

There are huge expectations that a wholesale distribution of land may be in the pipeline - a dream nurtured by politicians at election time.

Managing such expectations will require courage and statesmanship on a massive scale.

For Prime Minister Odinga, it is time to deliver some hard truths.

"We need to be frank with our people," he said.

"What we need to come up [with is] a system whereby land is used as a means of production… it should not be used for speculative purposes. It's only that way that we will develop this country."

Land is one of the most fertile areas for corruption. Deeds are often sold to people for the same piece of land and in Kenya land has long been a form of political patronage. Reversing this will be like trying to turn a tanker around.

Proud people

Now more than ever before, Kenyans are craving more political engagement with their leaders - calling on them to take their messages of reconciliation to the field rather than remain in the comfort of the capital.

In Yamumbe camp for displaced people near the town of Eldoret, Rosemary Wambui is in charge of the cleaning rota. These are proud people and though they may be confined to tents, there are standards to be kept.

Yamumbe is a satellite camp, a little closer to the farm Ms Wambui was forced to leave six months ago. But she is exasperated by Kenya's politicians.

"They're already talking about 2012," she explodes.

That is the date for the next round of elections.

"They just want us to unite but how can we be reunited when they are divided over 2012."

There is a real fear that Kenya's leaders will take their eye off the ball, get distracted by political ambition rather than address the realities on the ground.

There was a lot of talk about "one Kenya" during the honeymoon period that followed the peace deal. A Kenya where you put your nationality first and your tribal loyalties last.




Bernard, a survivor's story

But Bernard Ndege paid a heavy price for practicing that principle. A member of the Luo community - Mr Odinga's group - he saw all of his eight children burnt to death when their house was set alight in the town of Naivasha.

It was clearly a reprisal attack for the thousands of Kikuyus who had been killed or displaced in the weeks before. Yet the bitter irony of Mr Ndege's story, is that he voted for someone from a different community in the parliamentary vote and a fellow tribesman in the presidential vote.

He has now been forced to retreat to the place he was born on the shores of Lake Victoria.

He is a lonely and isolated figure who would vote the same way again if there was an election tomorrow.

But he is angry that no politician has taken responsibility for what happened: violence promoted from the top with hate speech and cash, and executed at the grassroots to deadly effect.

"My family perished from an election related incident but people were elected on that account have never come back and said this happened because of us," he says.

Kenya is now going through a period of quiet self reflection. A vast coalition cabinet is trying to hold the country together in this transitional phase.

An emboldened parliament and press is now under pressure to hold the executive in check and deliver on one of the key promises - a new constitution by the middle of next year.

Kenya may be on a path towards restoring normality, but it is not yet out of the woods.

usless kenya people, inferiority complex, na big wahala, no wonder they always wear suit and tie, ashmed of their bush man culture, hahha not suprsied, who will be ?

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Do you wanna make a Kenyan smile real quick?

Do you want to see a Kenyan burst with pride for his/her great accomplishment?

Do you want to see a sheepish grin cross those thick Kenyan lips?



Just turn to him/ her and say, "You don't even look African! I thought you were African American!"

OR, "You were probably born right here in the States, right?"

OR, "Your parents must have come here when you were very young."

OR, "I really couldn't tell from your accent that you were foreign! You sound so American, "



Why are Kenyans so shamed of their nationality, appearance, accent, and culture, to the extent that they feel that being told they don't look or sound African to be the highest complement ever?



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A lot of things that happen in Kenya and outside of Kenya could be attributed to the fact that Kenyans are not really a patriotic people. We don't put country first hence ain't proud of where we come from. That is our down fall.

I for one would feel totally insulted if anyone suggested that I sounded/looked/acted/behaved like an AA. (No offence meant to our brothers). I would take offense.



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Do you wanna make a Kenyan smile real quick?

Do you want to see a Kenyan burst with pride for his/her great accomplishment?

Do you want to see a sheepish grin cross those thick Kenyan lips?



Just turn to him/ her and say, "You don't even look African! I thought you were African American!"

OR, "You were probably born right here in the States, right?"

OR, "Your parents must have come here when you were very young."

OR, "I really couldn't tell from your accent that you were foreign! You sound so American, "



Why are Kenyans so shamed of their nationality, appearance, accent, and culture, to the extent that they feel that being told they don't look or sound African to be the highest complement ever?

count me out, i'm proud to be associated with Kenya, the good ,bad and the ODM



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12-06-2008, 08:06 AM

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I for one would feel totally insulted if anyone suggested that I sounded/looked/acted/behaved like an AA

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What all need to know is that superiority complex and her sister, inferiority complex, are one and the same malice. The part manifested thereof is solely dependent on what type of persons that are in the vicinity.


Maybe the person saying that you sound/look/act/behave like an AA is just honest about how you sound/look/act/behave and s/he is just pointing it out.

In life I have come to understand that some of the things that come to us as negatives are actually meant to be positive or neutral.

As a person I have been mistaken very many times to be a Kikuyu, a Kisii, and of late a Giriama simply because no one can start thinking that I am connected to my people, the Luo.

When I go to Luo land, they always gossip behind me, "Osungore ma!", to mean, "Anaringa sana"

Is it bad to behave like a Luo? Not at all!
Is it bad not to behave like a Luo if you are a Luo? Depends.

It depends on whether the person has chosen not to be patriotic to Kenya, or it's just that you find yourself adapting to the current cultural settings. The person who feels that being identified with Kenya will lower his/her ego, is an outright idiot.



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The issue is not whether you look/act/sound American. The issue is that you are trying to remove all traces of your African origing, and consider it flattering to be referred to as a thoroughly assimilated African.

another thing, why do Kenyans expect themselves to be able to speak flawless, unaccented English, and even go to the extent of ridiculing their fellow Kenyans for having a Kenyan accent? I mean, you never see Americans apologizing for not being able to speak flawless Spanish,

We need to have more pride in our own culture.



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why do Kenyans expect themselves to be able to speak flawless, unaccented English,

They feel inferior.


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and even go to the extent of ridiculing their fellow Kenyans for having a Kenyan accent?

Now they feel superior.



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12-08-2008, 08:39 AM

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The issue is not whether you look/act/sound American. The issue is that you are trying to remove all traces of your African origing, and consider it flattering to be referred to as a thoroughly assimilated African.

another thing, why do Kenyans expect themselves to be able to speak flawless, unaccented English, and even go to the extent of ridiculing their fellow Kenyans for having a Kenyan accent? I mean, you never see Americans apologizing for not being able to speak flawless Spanish,

We need to have more pride in our own culture.




Culture is subjective.

In every culture without fail, one group will always find a reason to deride another group. Irishmen are perceived to be daft, arabs are terrorists, anglicans are gay, etc

It's not a Kenyan problem per se. You will find Kenyans ashamed of their 'culture' and you will find Kenyans proud of their 'culture'.

By ridiculing others 'shortcomings' we show that we appreciate their existence. If no one is making fun of you or mocking you, then you're nobody. You're not memorable or worth speaking about.

About guys disowning their roots, we all do. We have to fit in our current surroundings. Would you refuse to wear 'western' clothing in the northern hemisphere winter? Even if you love your 'shuka', you have to adapt.

Will you speak fluent Kimeru or Kikamba when speaking to your customers at a garage in Russia. It would defeat the purpose of communication.

Others say you ought to maintain your 'original' accent. The point of communication is to make others understand you. If they can't, you're not getting your message across. So again, you have to adapt.

Recently at a church service here in Nairobi, the preacher made an announcement for a picnic in his Kao accent; ", there will be facked lunch for the men who don't have women at home, "

I found that hilarious. If you think I should sit back and just 'understand' his accent: you're wrong.



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Recently at a church service here in Nairobi, the preacher made an announcement for a picnic in his Kao accent; ", there will be facked lunch for the men who don't have women at home, "

I have to export that!



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12-08-2008, 10:35 AM

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Do you wanna make a Kenyan smile real quick?

Do you want to see a Kenyan burst with pride for his/her great accomplishment?

Do you want to see a sheepish grin cross those thick Kenyan lips?



Just turn to him/ her and say, "You don't even look African! I thought you were African American!"

OR, "You were probably born right here in the States, right?"

OR, "Your parents must have come here when you were very young."

OR, "I really couldn't tell from your accent that you were foreign! You sound so American, "



Why are Kenyans so shamed of their nationality, appearance, accent, and culture, to the extent that they feel that being told they don't look or sound African to be the highest complement ever?

Exile you made laugh out like an idiot. That was so true and funny.

I have such a thick kenyan accent and look so african and sometimes I get a bit irritated when all jungs and akats have to remind me about it.

I think its not about inferiority, just the need not to stand out, Just to be like everyone around you.



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During the 1980 election, Edward Kennedy said Fritz Hollings, then a South Carolina president doesn't speak English, somewhere along the lines of "America needs a president who doesn't speak English as a foreign language" because of his southern accent.

A former co-worker of mine from Texas told me he had to shed the Texan accent to sound professional. So I guess these issues are everywhere. I have never understood how people can expect others to sound like them but not them like others. As in, North easterners don't go around shedding their accent but they expect everyone to sound like them.

And saa zingine some are deluded that they haven't an accent. Like this kisii chic who was belittling kisiis for having a bad accent, saying "Kisiis sipiki veri badi ingilishi. Samutaemusi you faindi samuwani seing'i tati , ( Kisiis speak very bad english. Sometimes you find someone saying that, ).


http://www.mashada.com/forums/opinions-advice/93836-inferiority-complex.html

More insight for your discusions: (saw this on Nigerian Village Square)

Why Does the Black Community Hate Nigerians?
Written by Sabella O Abidde
Wednesday, 21 March 2007

If you are a resident of the United States you may have felt or noticed the simmering heat emanating from the tension within the Black community. You may have felt the mutual suspicion and objections and the intense competition between the African-American, Afro-Caribbean and Afro-Latino, and the African community. There is also the tension within the African community. In some enclaves and professional sectors, the heat stemming from these tensions can be unbearable. Often times one wonders why people with common ancestry, common history and common life experiences engage in self-immolating, self-defeating and self-hating tendencies. What’s the problem?



Let’s start with Africans. Most Africans I have come to know or communicated with are suspicious of, and love to hate Nigerians. I don’t mean this at the individual level. I am speaking in collective or general terms. Every where I go, I hear Congolese, Togolese, Sierra Leonean, Liberians and South Africans and others speak ill of Nigerians. They hate the fact that Nigerians are “too aggressive,” “too dishonest,” “love to show off their wealth,” and are “always loud.” They associate Nigerians (and Nigerians only) with “419” even when their own nationals have been caught committing criminal offences.



Personally, I don’t know what it means to be “too aggressive.” Does it means that Nigerians have a quicker and better understanding of systems and societies they find themselves in? Does it mean that Nigerians, by virtue of their worldview, education, and experiences, gets acculturated better and faster than other Africans? Does it mean they know how to stretch and bend rules to suit their conditions? Does it mean that Nigerians are generally never afraid or intimidated of their new environment? Whatever “too aggressive” means, they are always grateful when Nigerians show them the ropes, helps them out of difficult situations and introduce them to wider circle of benefits.



To be a Nigerians in some cities and in some ethnic enclaves is to be a pariah. Africans from Mozambique, Tanzania, Botswana, Angola, Zambia, Kenya and other East and Southern African countries can’t tell enough of the “monsters and crooks” living in their countries. I hear it every time. And indeed, some Africans are not happy with the fact that Nigerians have a huge presence in their educational system. That Nigerians are the Nouveau riche in some of these African countries is a source of jealousy. Sadly, when confronted, most of these Africans have never associated with or personally known such new-Nigerians. They’ve only “heard of Nigerians” who fit their flawed expectation.



Sadly, one also hears African-Americans, Afro-Caribbean and Afro-Latinos complain about Nigerians. The image these Blacks have of Nigerians is not unlike that of other Africans. A Nigerians trying to secure a professional job or contract -- if such office is headed by an African-American -- will find it to be an uphill task. If no one else is listening to the interview, you may be queried, grilled, toyed with and asked unethical questions just to make you loose your composure. Generally speaking, a Nigerian stands a better chance for employment consideration or a level playing field if the man or woman at the top is a non-Black. For whatever reason, African-American women do not share the opinion of their male counterpart (regarding Nigerians).



Back to Africans: what is it about Nigeria and Nigerians that vexes them? Nigeria is not a global hegemon. We neither invade nor occupy other lands. We do not have expansionist tendencies. We are not even a crusading nation lording over the West African sub-region. And even within the African continent, we have mostly helped, and have been a good neighbor. By and large, all we have done is help other African countries in terms of their economy and or political independence. Even though Nigeria has her own problems we continue to expend time and energy and other resources on fellow African countries. Without Nigeria , close to 40% of sub-Saharan African countries would have found it difficult to gain independence or be in existence today. Our country remains the lifeline of several African countries. Since 1970 or thereabout Nigeria has spent billions of dollars towards peacekeeping and economic and political stabilization missions. In addition, thousands of Nigerians have lost their lives in the service of these countries. For all we have done and continue to do -- is these all we get? Scorn and ridicule and hate?



But really, what did Nigeria and Nigerians do to African-American, the Afro-Latino and Afro-Caribbean community to deserve the hostility that is generality directed at us? If others hate us for the obvious and unobservable reasons, what about other Africans? What’s their problem?

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My own addition:
In the UK, Black british men, Jamaicans, and most other men of black african origin generally dislike Nigerian's as well. (Meantime, all their women generally love nigerian men)

The answer is simple.You hate who you fear.But the question we should ask ourselves is,why do people hate us.If it's because we are successful then we shouldn't be bothered.But if it's because we are known for negative things then we have to change attitude and ways of doing things to help create a positive image for our dear nation.

^^^^ rubbish!

[center]LAND OF THE WEIRD PEOPLE: NIGERIA OFCOURSE[/center]


A breastfeeding mother in the poorest village slam town of Ogudu,Lagos wants her husband punished for forcing her to breastfeed his five puppies.

The 27-year-old Jennifer Amaka of Agidi village, Lagos sub-county said she had been married to Nathan Folasayo for over eight years.

“I produced four children but one of them died last year,” she said. “Now I have a three-month-old baby but my husband has been forcing me to share the breast milk with his five puppies,” she said.

Good Samaritans who have been helping her said the child had begun barking like puppies.

Amaka, who reported two cases of child neglect and assault, said the Police were frustrating her. Asked what punishment she wanted Falasayo to face, Amaka said: “He has humiliated me for long. I want him imprisoned for life.” Activists in addition want Falasayo to be charged with mistreatment.

Amaka is now getting support from ActionAid in Ogudu and the Pentecostal Revival Ministries. The little mud-and-wattle hut, which the church offered her, is a hive of activity as hordes of villagers throng the place to see “the woman who breastfed dogs”.

Narrating her frustration with the Police, she said the Police arrested Falasayo but released him after two days after giving out a bribe of 200 Naira. Apparently angered by the reporting, Falasayo beat Amaka to near death, she said.

“He then forced me to breastfeed his puppies,” Amaka explained. “He told me I had to breastfeed his dogs since he had paid two cows as dowry to my parents.”

Amaka said her husband brings home squirrels which he sometimes roasts in the bush. “That is why he wants his dogs healthy for hunting,” she said.

Rose Ibironke, the ActionAid coordinator, said: “If we didn’t intervene, Amaka would be dead.” She said the baby had begun barking like a dog when the mother sought refuge at the offices of Women Won’t Wait, a charitable organisation which counsels women traumatised by domestic violence in Pallisa.

“Her breasts were swollen and had wounds inflicted by bites by the puppies,” she said.

Rose said ActionAid would ensure that Amaka’s “killer” husband was punished. “We shall support her to get legal redress though the Police have let us down,” she said.

Neighbours confirmed that Falasayo had made his wife breastfeed his puppies. They said His pack of hunting dogs had become “a hazard to the village”, which is why the villagers killed them.

“He bought five puppies to replace the dead pack and wanted them to grow fast using breast milk,” said Festo Majanchi, ActionAid programme officer for Pallisa.

Falasayo, a seasoned hunter, had no kind words for his wife. “If I had not paid my two cows in bride price my dogs would have milk to take,” He told journalists and ActionAid officials at his home on Saturday.

The furious Falasayo chased the group away, threatening to deal with them if they dared step in his compound again.

Reacting to accusations of frustrating Amaka, the district Police commander, Amos Gumisiriza, said Falasayo was released on "bond" as the Resident State Attorney prepared the file for the court process.

He expected Falasayo to face charges of child neglect, assault and “any others advised by the State Attorney”.

Gumisiriza, however, suspected the woman to be mentally ill. But Wilson Otai, the head of the Pentecostal Revival Ministries church, described this as “rubbish”.

“This woman got mental stress due to what she was undergoing,” he argued. “We have been with her for three weeks and she wasn’t like this when she came here.”

The Ogudu child and family protection officer, Florence Amijong, said Falalsayohad hidden the puppies and it was hard to investigate the case.

Commenting on the medical dangers both mother and child may be facing, Dr. Alex Opio, the assistant commissioner of national disease control, ruled out rabies.

“By the time a dog shows signs of rabies, it is mad and it just bites instead of suckling,” he said. He suggested that the baby be taken to a health unit to find out the cause of the barking.

Dr. Vincent Karuhanga of Friends Polyclinic Lagos said the barking could have been caused by associating with the puppies.

“That is why children are most likely to speak the language of housemaids,” he said. “A child does not make noise just because it shared milk with dogs,” he said.

He said the mother needed counselling and to keep the child away from the puppies.

When Nigerians do such things do you expect Ghanaian s to love you in any way whatsoever. Guys plizzzzzz. Just accept the reality, you are all screw ups.

Kenyanstar:

[center]LAND OF THE WEIRD PEOPLE: NIGERIA OFCOURSE[/center]


A breastfeeding mother in the poorest village slam town of Ogudu,Lagos wants her husband punished for forcing her to breastfeed his five puppies.

The 27-year-old Jennifer Amaka of Agidi village, Lagos sub-county said she had been married to Nathan Folasayo for over eight years.

“I produced four children but one of them died last year,” she said. “Now I have a three-month-old baby but my husband has been forcing me to share the breast milk with his five puppies,” she said.

Good Samaritans who have been helping her said the child had begun barking like puppies.

Amaka, who reported two cases of child neglect and assault, said the Police were frustrating her. Asked what punishment she wanted Falasayo to face, Amaka said: “He has humiliated me for long. I want him imprisoned for life.” Activists in addition want Falasayo to be charged with mistreatment.

Amaka is now getting support from ActionAid in Ogudu and the Pentecostal Revival Ministries. The little mud-and-wattle hut, which the church offered her, is a hive of activity as hordes of villagers throng the place to see “the woman who breastfed dogs”.

Narrating her frustration with the Police, she said the Police arrested Falasayo but released him after two days after giving out a bribe of 200 Naira. Apparently angered by the reporting, Falasayo beat Amaka to near death, she said.

“He then forced me to breastfeed his puppies,” Amaka explained. “He told me I had to breastfeed his dogs since he had paid two cows as dowry to my parents.”

Amaka said her husband brings home squirrels which he sometimes roasts in the bush. “That is why he wants his dogs healthy for hunting,” she said.

Rose Ibironke, the ActionAid coordinator, said: “If we didn’t intervene, Amaka would be dead.” She said the baby had begun barking like a dog when the mother sought refuge at the offices of Women Won’t Wait, a charitable organisation which counsels women traumatised by domestic violence in Pallisa.

“Her breasts were swollen and had wounds inflicted by bites by the puppies,” she said.

Rose said ActionAid would ensure that Amaka’s “killer” husband was punished. “We shall support her to get legal redress though the Police have let us down,” she said.

Neighbours confirmed that Falasayo had made his wife breastfeed his puppies. They said His pack of hunting dogs had become “a hazard to the village”, which is why the villagers killed them.

“He bought five puppies to replace the dead pack and wanted them to grow fast using breast milk,” said Festo Majanchi, ActionAid programme officer for Pallisa.

Falasayo, a seasoned hunter, had no kind words for his wife. “If I had not paid my two cows in bride price my dogs would have milk to take,” He told journalists and ActionAid officials at his home on Saturday.

The furious Falasayo chased the group away, threatening to deal with them if they dared step in his compound again.

Reacting to accusations of frustrating Amaka, the district Police commander, Amos Gumisiriza, said Falasayo was released on "bond" as the Resident State Attorney prepared the file for the court process.

He expected Falasayo to face charges of child neglect, assault and “any others advised by the State Attorney”.

Gumisiriza, however, suspected the woman to be mentally ill. But Wilson Otai, the head of the Pentecostal Revival Ministries church, described this as “rubbish”.

“This woman got mental stress due to what she was undergoing,” he argued. “We have been with her for three weeks and she wasn’t like this when she came here.”

The Ogudu child and family protection officer, Florence Amijong, said Falalsayohad hidden the puppies and it was hard to investigate the case.

Commenting on the medical dangers both mother and child may be facing, Dr. Alex Opio, the assistant commissioner of national disease control, ruled out rabies.

“By the time a dog shows signs of rabies, it is mad and it just bites instead of suckling,” he said. He suggested that the baby be taken to a health unit to find out the cause of the barking.

Dr. Vincent Karuhanga of Friends Polyclinic Lagos said the barking could have been caused by associating with the puppies.

“That is why children are most likely to speak the language of housemaids,” he said. “A child does not make noise just because it shared milk with dogs,” he said.

He said the mother needed counselling and to keep the child away from the puppies.

When Nigerians do such things do you expect Ghanaian s to love you in any way whatsoever. Guys plizzzzzz. Just accept the reality, you are all screw ups.

Where d hell did that come from?

Sammy107_d:

Where d hell did that come from?

Don't even know.

[center]IT ONLY HAPPENS IN NIGERIA[/center]
ATLANTA – Scientists have identified a lethal new virus in Africa that causes bleeding like the dreaded Ebola virus. The so-called "Lujo" virus infected five people in Nigeria last fall. Four of them died, but a fifth survived, perhaps helped by a medicine recommended by the scientists.

It's not clear how the first person became infected, but the bug comes from a family of viruses found in rodents, said Dr. Ian Lipkin, a Columbia University epidemiologist involved in the discovery.

"This one is really, really aggressive" he said of the virus.

A paper on the virus by Lipkin and his collaborators was published online Thursday on in PLoS Pathogens.

The outbreak started in September, when a female travel agent who lives on the outskirts of Anagbaki , Atako, became ill with a fever-like illness that quickly grew much worse.

She was airlifted to Abuja, where she died.

A paramedic in Abuja who treated her also became sick, was transported to Johannesburg and died. The three others infected were health care workers in Paikon Kore.

Investigators believe the virus spread from person to person through contact with infected body fluids.

"It's not a kind of virus like the flu that can spread widely," said Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, which helped fund the research.

The name given to the virus — "Lujo" — stems from Abuja and Lagos, the cities where it was first identified.

Investigators in Africa thought the illness might be Ebola, because some of the patients had bleeding in the gums and around needle injection sites, said Stuart Nichol, chief of the molecular biology lab in the CDC's Special Pathogens Branch. Other symptoms include include fever, shock, coma and organ failure.

Genetic extracts of blood and liver from the victims were tested at Columbia University in New York, and additional testing was done at CDC in Atlanta. Tests determined it belonged to the arenavirus family, and that it is distantly related to Lassa fever, another disease found in Africa.

The drug ribavirin, which is given to Lassa victims, was given to the fifth Lujo virus patient — a Johannesburg nurse. It's not clear if the medicine made a difference or if she just had a milder case of the disease, but she fully recovered, Nichol said.

The research is a startling example of how quickly scientists can now identify new viruses, Fauci said. Using genetic sequencing techniques, the virus was identified in a matter of a few days — a process that used to take weeks or longer.

Man who forced wife to breastfeed dogs remanded
DAVID MAFABI
Pallisa

Court in Pallisa District has remanded the man who reportedly forced his wife to breastfeed puppies, a bizarre incident that shocked many people early this week.

Mr Nathan Awoloi, 28, a hunter and resident of Dudi in Apopong Sub-county,  allegedly forced his wife, Ms Jennifer Alupot, to breastfeed his five puppies and this led to the death of the couple’s child  early last year to rabies.
Rabies is a disease commonly found in dogs.

Clad in an old white-shirt and dirty trousers but in a jovial mood, Mr Awoloi, was handed the charge in less than two minutes after arrival at the Chief Magistrate’s Court at Kalaki.

Mr Noah Hasahya, the Grade II Magistrate, made the ruling.
Instead of being charged for making his wife breastfeed dogs, Mr Hasahya preferred charges of failure to provide necessities for Apuyo.
But the charge didn’t bother Mr Awoloi. He smiled before the warder led him away on a journey to Kamuge government Prison.

“Because of failure to provide necessities for your daughter, Ms Loy Apuyo, you are hereby remanded until June 10 and then appear before this court the same day,” pronounced Mr Hasahya.

The district Police Commander, Mr Amos Gumusiriza, told Daily Monitor yesterday at his office that Mr Awoloi’s file has been sent to DPP for advice because they don’t have any evidence to pin him for the offence.
Although the case has attracted a lot of attention from women activists, Police insists that Ms Alupot could be mentally disturbed and that she should seek psychiatrist help  in Butabika Hospital.

The Police spokesperson, Ms Judith Nabakooba, said when Ms Alupot was subjected to a medical examination by the police doctor, the report showed no fresh or recent scars of dog bites on her breasts as she claims.

“She has been subjected to a second medical examination and the doctor has recommended a psychiatric examination,” said Ms Nabakooba.
When Daily Monitor arrived at the district Police headquarters, efforts were being sought to get a psychiatrist from Mbale referral Hospital to examine Ms Alupot.



Related articles: http://www.monitor.co.ug/artman/publish/news/Man_who_forced_wife_to_breastfeed_dogs_remanded_85599.shtml

@kenyanstar. Dont you feel,deliberate targting to give dog a bad name,you edited the article from Ugandan monitor online.

[tr]The story of Ms Jenipher Alupot who recently accused her husband, Nathan Awoloi of Pallisa District, of forcing her to breastfeed his puppies because he had offered cows to her parents as bride price, has attracted strong reaction from women activists who have demanded that bride price be abolished.
While the Police say there is no evidence that Alupot breastfed puppies and that she could be insane, her husband is now demanding that her parents refund his cows.

Bride price is a practice which, if respected, should not be a source of demeaning forms of violence in marriages. But over the years, the practice has been abused. Increasingly, greedy parents force their daughters to marry rich men who pay obscene sums of money as bride price, instead of the required cultural token of appreciation.

The danger is that such girls are virtually bought from their parents. They even go into the marriage regardless of the man’s HIV status because they have no say in the arrangement.

Likewise, it is difficult for them to walk away in case the man becomes abusive because their parents will not welcome the idea of returning the bride price. Accordingly, many young women find themselves in the hands of abusive partners but they hang on to these tormentors, simply because the man has paid bride price which her parents cannot refund.

We must seek answers to what went wrong with a practice many communities still consider precious. In many communities, marriage is not considered binding until bride price has been paid because it seals the marriage contract. That is why civil society organisations and cultural leaders should educate communities on the essence of bride price and discourage commercialising it.

While bride price may be a cause of domestic violence in some instances, it is just one of the many causes of this hideous crime. But if a well-intentioned practice such as bride price and other cultural norms do more harm than good to families, then it may not be worthwhile. While cultural norms are very important, they must not supersede the basic rights of women.

We must, however, look at the bigger picture and focus on tackling the staggering cost of all forms of violence on this country. Domestic violence must not be allowed to thrive.
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Violence is our sad fate  [/tr]


@Kenyanstar, No offence,were is the link to ur article?
Related links http://www.monitor.co.ug/artman/publish/opinions/Condemn_domestic_violence_in_all_forms_85751.shtml

NIGERIAS CURSE
No other word has preoccupied Nigerians more than “reform” over the last few decades. The public consciousness of Nigerians – their zeitgeist – is obsessed with the need for the fundamental restructuring of the state and its institutions. Yet, for all the struggles and sacrifices for change, the Nigerian state remains stubbornly predatory.

The core of the political class forged under the country’s first president, is still in charge. President Ya ardua, the high priest of this class, seems to believe that genuine reforms are unnecessary and dangerous to his rule and his tiny elite.

The question that begs an answer is how long Nigerians can wait for reforms before the country completely descends into lawlessness and anarchy. The cycle of vicious killings by security forces, militias, gangs and vigilantes is clear evidence of a failing state. A state that cannot provide basic security to its citizens is not worth its name. Nor does it have the right to rule.

When a state turns rogue – and bandit – it abdicates its solemn responsibility to exercise sovereign authority over the people and the territory under it. It is only a question of time before such a state fails completely like Somalia.

But I want to focus on the role that Ya ardua– and his betrayer class – are playing in the calamitous descend of Nigeria into barbarism. I am afraid, very afraid, for Nigeria because I can see it going the way of the Democratic Republic of the Congo, Liberia and other basket cases.

That is sure to happen unless someone stops President Ya ardua and his band of brothers. AreNigerians going to sit and do nothing as the country spins inexorably out of control and crashes? Or are they going to demand that actual, genuine and painful reforms be instituted to save the country from certain catastrophe?

What is most surprising is the myopia of President Yardua and his political class. Where do they think they and their children will live if the country goes to hell? Are they prepared to live in a lonely exile? If not, why can’t they act in their own best interest and institute reforms to save themselves and the country?

Don’t they know that real reforms would actually benefit them more than the common citizen? Sure, the average citizen would reap huge benefits, but history shows that reforms legitimise ruling classes and endear the public to them. Either Yardua does not listen to intellectuals, or there are none to advise him. I agree that real reforms will be painful.

Quite a few members of His political elite will lose more than their shirts in the process. But the purge is necessary and long overdue. No reforms are possible unless a thorough fumigation of the political syndicate is done. I am not talking about a witch-hunt.

What we must understand is that Nigeria will remain on the precipice unless the rot in the political class is cleaned out. This means that the perpetrators of vice and evil in the political class cannot be allowed to perpetuate or reproduce themselves in power. They must be politically neutered and castrated if the country is to see a new tomorrow. It’s either them or the country.

Reforms will dearly cost Yardua political class. The rationale for the protection rackets of certain high ranking perpetrators of human rights abuses and economic crimes is to arrange a suitable successor for Him. Only through such connivance can this political elite reproduce itself.

If my political nose is accurate, the succession stakes pivot on the trinity – not of the holy kind – of the will have to play along or be cast aside.

Maybe its just pay back day.
Nigerians also treat other Africans like S*it do they not?.
For them all Ghana men are thieves and all Ghana women ashawo.Thats just an example.
All Niger people beggers, Segenal just too ugly to be true.
Togo poor not even worth the insult ( as in togo what is that)

Segenal just too ugly to be true.

LOL LOL

@mamaput

You are looking for trouble with this your statement.

i know someone who will kiss (sorry i mean kick your ass) for that your statement. 

Don't say i never warned you oh.

As a rule, Nigerians love to whine about nothing. Thus, while everyone is complaining to the heavens about the need to reform the police, no one notices the rebirth that the police force has undergone right under your noses.

Take gender, for instance. Under Yaarduas tenure, fat policewomen have been quietly retired. Instead, they have hired slim, beautiful officers and deployed them to traffic duties.

So pretty are they that roadblocks have now become black spots for male drivers with a roving eye. It’s such a pleasure to negotiate a bribe with these models that one doesn’t even feel bad about passing over bribes. "Heh! Heh! Madam! I only have 200 Naira, but you look very nice in that uniform — madam!"

After all the pretty thing has real needs — salon bills, the baby — unlike their pot-bellied male counterparts who just invest the bribes in the stomach.

The boys and girls in blue have also become noticeably friendlier. At roadblocks, they address you as sir or madam and ask for bribes in such a sweet way that it just breaks your heart. It is also not uncommon to find them exchanging high fives and chatting animatedly with okada riders and taxi touts. That is community policing at its best.

But having said that, there are a few things that we should put in place to support the police efforts. First is to get rid of that colonial uniforms. I just never get it. Is it a raincoat? A jacket to wad off the cold or a stone-proof jacket when fighting hawkers?

cursed apparel

Either way, it’s downright ugly and cumbersome. If you dressed a diplomat in that cursed apparel, he would become mean-tempered in seconds.

The second thing we must get rid off is those military boots. For heaven’s sake, you don’t need jungle boots to file petty crime reports or flag down motorists. If you have worn gumboots in the sun for two hours, then you can appreciate the agony of encasing your feet in jungle boots for an entire career.

The third thing we need to lose is that idiotic whistle that the police chief carries in his pocket. Why would you need a whistle when you are armed with a rifle whose retort can wake the dead?

The fourth thing we need to do is design sweat proof uniforms for the police. If you made me stand in the sun for eight hours, my feet roasting in cheap jungle boots and my body oozing sweat from every pore in that ugly jacket, I would angrily harness bribes from pedestrians.

The sixth thing we must do is issue cops with decent bags for keeping bribes. It’s unfair to expect cops to stuff grimy notes beneath stones, under hats and in their bras. It’s, however, important that cops reciprocate by declaring their bribes for taxation purposes. Treasury is broke and we need every shilling we can lay our hands on, folks.

avoid clever folks

The thing we must not do at all costs is to hire youth with good grades into the police force. Clever people — especially those know-it all boys and girls who missed university by a whisker — can’t follow orders. Let them stick to hanging around banks as watchmen. Solving crimes is a complex matter best left to diligent crime busters with Grade "" on their resumes.

The worst thing we could ever do, however, is to start hiring cops with degrees. To do so is to invite comrade power into police stations where violent riots against the police chief will be the order of the day.

[center]NIGERIANS AT THEIR BEST[/center]

Some Nigerians are generously mean. They will pretend they are sociable, concerned and caring yet they are out to fleece others.

For example, a friend with a car sees you at a bus park waiting to board an Okada. Without even flagging him down, he stops, hoots and begs you to enter the car for he is going the same direction.

You count your blessings, thanking the Maker for the lift. He drives on as you try to engage him in pleasantries to appear appreciative. He responds with short quick answers. You notice something is bothering his mind but before you query him, he branches into a petrol station.

"Do you have Naira 500 I add to what I have I refuel the car?)" he asks almost in a whisper.

Caught by surprise, you half-heartedly give him the money you have. You steal a glance at the fuel pump and realise he only buys fuel worth the money you gave him. He gets back into the car wearing a happier face and wants to talk about everything under the sun.

You realise that he has conned you. What you thought was a blessing turns into a swindle. You have spent five times more than what you would have if you had boarded a Taxi.

Beware! Next time a ‘Nigerian friend’ calls you for a lift, think twice or else you may end up paying dearly.

Nigerians are a ripoff lot.

@kenyanstar, so whats your point?

As you can see from the topic its just that Nigerians are not much liked for their inconsideration,ruthlessness and unrepentive.

[center][b][b]Why Nigerians make out to be what they actually are[/b][/center][/b]

French psychoanalyst Jacques Lacan once remarked that a mad man who believes to be a king is no more than a king who himself believes to be a king. This is precisely the problem with our Nigerians, or politicians in general.

They actually believe that they are the best in leadership and therefore pretend to be such, begging the question whether one should believe in what they already know as a fact or in that which is uncertain. A good lesson in knowing and believing has always been shown at the family level when children are considered.

It is said that the mother knows that the children are hers, but the father believes they are. But with the advent of DNA this may not hold true any more. Unfortunately, there is as yet no DNA test that can confirm to a politician that he or she is.

TWO SUCH BELIEVERS OR PRETENDers who have been in the limelight lately are former Nigerian Nairalanders and the critical ego obssed Naijans who insists they are still relevant — Nigerians. We all saw it in the media the other day when members of vigilante groups in towns demonstrated round the towns killing and maiming each other senseless and burning there rival candidates effigy.

For all the reasons we would accept that Nigerians are their own worst enemies regardless of intellectualism.Why

Kenyanstar:

[center]NIGERIANS AT THEIR BEST[/center]

Some Nigerians are generously mean. They will pretend they are sociable, concerned and caring yet they are out to fleece others.

For example, a friend with a car sees you at a bus park waiting to board an Okada. Without even flagging him down, he stops, hoots and begs you to enter the car for he is going the same direction.

You count your blessings, thanking the Maker for the lift. He drives on as you try to engage him in pleasantries to appear appreciative. He responds with short quick answers. You notice something is bothering his mind but before you query him, he branches into a petrol station.

"Do you have Naira 500 I add to what I have I refuel the car?)" he asks almost in a whisper.

Caught by surprise, you half-heartedly give him the money you have. You steal a glance at the fuel pump and realise he only buys fuel worth the money you gave him. He gets back into the car wearing a happier face and wants to talk about everything under the sun.

You realise that he has conned you. What you thought was a blessing turns into a swindle. You have spent five times more than what you would have if you had boarded a Taxi.

Beware! Next time a ‘Nigerian friend’ calls you for a lift, think twice or else you may end up paying dearly.

Nigerians are a ripoff lot.

Be careful of what you say there friend. This can be done by anybody who comes from any part of the world. The fact that one Nigerian broother ripped you off doesn't say anything about Nigerians.

If you know about statistics, you will know that this incident is statistically insignificant.

Don't try to create a war in here bro. That will be absolutely evil.

bbc ones accredited the ingenuity of Kenyans runner to their early running to school bared footed;100 miles every morning

Kenya stinks!!

no wonder their ulgy mouth runs in the same manner!! ulgy trust!

@Ikeyman

Since i dont know your intention in on pulling me into this derogatory statements, I will assume you are suffering from acute misconception of facts about Kenya. Above all i would like to insist and persist on assuring you that i don't bore any negative sentiments to Nigeria as a nation and Nigerians as a people. Your assertion to referring to me as a "Kenyan" which i am not, and to the Kenyan people is gross disrespect and abuse to their chosen lifestyle. With all due respect(that is if you deserve any) in respecting the sanctity of to live and let live i would be sure that your actions will be regrettable if you found the time to know Kenyans.

You should also take note that running "bare foot" is a misconception and not directly related to being able to run but attributed to raw talent. Facts about athletes winning in major world races are all centered from a Major province of Rift valley and the bread basket of Kenya. The area is agriculturally rich and considered one of the richest in Kenya. Your assertion that people from Kenya are bare foot is being rather cheap and petty.

Since i will assume that i am talking to a level minded Nigerian(few exist anyway) i would furnish you with more information about Kenya, that is if you will accept to stop shooting rhetoric from he wrong end.

Please feel free not to reply.
Most welcome.

Kenyanstar:

@Ikeyman

Since i dont know your intention in on pulling me into this derogatory statements, I will assume you are suffering from acute misconception of facts about Kenya. Above all i would like to insist and persist on assuring you that i don't bore any negative sentiments to Nigeria as a nation and Nigerians as a people. Your assertion to referring to me as a "Kenyan" which i am not, and to the Kenyan people is gross disrespect and abuse to their chosen lifestyle. With all due respect(that is if you deserve any) in respecting the sanctity of to live and let live i would be sure that your actions will be regrettable if you found the time to know Kenyans.

You should also take note that running "bare foot" is a misconception and not directly related to being able to run but attributed to raw talent. Facts about athletes winning in major world races are all centered from a Major province of Rift valley and the bread basket of Kenya. The area is agriculturally rich and considered one of the richest in Kenya. Your assertion that people from Kenya are bare foot is being rather cheap and petty.

Since i will assume that i am talking to a level minded Nigerian[b](few exist anyway)[/b] i would furnish you with more information about Kenya, that is if you will accept to stop shooting rhetoric from he wrong end.

Please feel free not to reply.
Most welcome.

You shouldn't make statements like this, i think a lot of people find it insulting!

I have read some of your posts and i know some of them are facts, but still, in a world where we have many different people from different parts of the world intermingling freely, we should practice and preach tolerance of one another.

@Ziga

Finally!!!!
I really appreciate your sincere reaction in replying though i had clearly indicated that you should "please feel free not to reply", but you replyed anyway.Back to the matter in hand, lets not jump the gun here, I thought i was clear on my reply that i don't hold any negativity against Nigeria whatsoever. Though i feel you distorted my facts, by implying that i insulted somebody or anybody on that matter, by your emboldened reference"(few exist)". It was just a figure of speech in order to drive my point home. I hope the point is home, or is it?

Please feel free not to reply
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hmmm let then carry on decieving themselves

but one thing ha remember this is a naija property

u can always take that ingenuity and talent to the kenya site

we nigerians like am like dat oooo

but do me a favour always try to stay in a straight line plz; so when push over u wouldnt be actin in such a manner u jusrt did

haterz!! dissappear

@ikeyman

I find it hard to convince myself that you are a person of sound intelligence in reference to your comments, which seem to imply your insensitivity to other Nigerians views.

Least of all concerning their perception of fellow neighbors and interacting policy. I deeply hold that whatever you write and think are incoherent views with a larger Nigerian audience.

By referring to other Nigerians "We Nigerians" completely distorts the notion that you you speak from a personal perspective and not that of Nigerians. On point with being on a "straight line" I think you are the one leading us astray from the line in regards to the topic.

And please do make sure you desist as of now from such outrageous sentiments since i doest help but anyway and deeply instill on people why "RE: West African Countries Hate Nigerians?"

Hope you will feel more enlightened
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