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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by AskiaHarem(m): 12:21am On Sep 09, 2019 |
EVarn: Is that an Islamic terrorist group with connections around the world or just some frustrated ragtags? |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by EVarn(m): 12:48am On Sep 09, 2019 |
AskiaHarem:Quite more sophisticated than BH/ISWAP and Al-baghdadi's ISIS put together. At it's prime, it was a conventional military force fully backed and armed by the US, Israel, South Africa, and many neighboring African countries. 3 Likes |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by QuietMynd: 3:01am On Sep 09, 2019 |
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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by keep2silent: 3:39am On Sep 09, 2019 |
If a man don't know a thing? No shame asking. Life can be simple. Yes, Angolan Army lots of offensive weaponry crushed UNITA the best equipped insurgent, rebel, strangely conventional but guerrilla like force in Africa, scholars affirm it. Post-War Angola by Justin Pearce. Published by Cambridge University Press, 20th November 2018. Abstract: The electoral support manifested by Angolan opposition party UNITA since its defeat as an armed movement in 2002 defies opposition parties prognoses for such rebel movements defeated militarily, who later recast themselves as political parties. 1 Like |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidex111: 4:41am On Sep 09, 2019 |
PRESS RELEASE TROOPS CLEARS GWOREGE VILLAGE OF TERRORISTS, Recover Arms & Ammunition, many terrorists Lost their Lives Following credible information from the locals about the presence of terrorists at Gworege village in Dikwa Local Government Area of Borno State, troops of 22 Brigade/Super Camp Dikwa in conjunction with the Civilian Joint Task Force, Local Vigilantes and Hunters, conducted a successful raid and clearance operations to Gworege community to clear the village of the crouching terrorists reportedly hibernating in the area. The terrorists engaged the troops in a fire fight but had to flee as a result of superior fire power from the troops. Consequently, troops cordoned and searched the village and recovered the following: a. 6 x AK 47 Rifles b. 66 x 7.62 MM ammunition No soldier was killed, wounded or missing in action. Unfortunately, a hunter was wounded, is receiving treatment at the 22 Brigade medical Centre in Dikwa, he has been stabilized and is fast recovering. Many terrorists reportedly met their waterloo during the encounter, while others escaped with various degrees of injuries. SAGIR MUSA Colonel Acting Director Army Public Relations 08 September 2019
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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Odunayaw(m): 7:10am On Sep 09, 2019 |
EVarn:See the bolded was never emphasized? |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Odunayaw(m): 7:13am On Sep 09, 2019 |
EVarn:And at that prime was unmatched by anything Angola had (Man & Support). Ugly history nonetheless. If the dominoes hadn't fallen for UNITA's backers there wouldn't have been any 'crushing'. 1 Like |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Covert1: 8:23am On Sep 09, 2019 |
Kids know nothing come here and be ranting rubbish. If Boko haram/ISWAP was a traditional conventional/guerrilla force like we've seen with most other rebel groups it would have since been crushed too by the Nigerian Army that has the pedigree of destroying or keeping the peace between such state sponsored rebel armies from the Congo in the 60's to the Biafran Army, the Sierra Leonean Army and its associated insurgent groups, Liberia's Charles Taylor's Army to other sundry rebel organizations like UNITA. The difference here is the ideology. In ISWAP/BHT we have islamafacists terrorists who come to die not necessarily to win the war but to inflict as much pain as possible on the superior military power it fights. UNITA in itself was crushed by Angola with support from many countries like Cuba and Nigeria. Nigeria especially stood out in the liberation struggle of many African states with material and financial support including in some cases direct clandestine military support by way of military advisers and weapons. So pls when attempting to bash Nigeria stop looking in the wrong places. The Nigerian Military today is better, is still very powerful, highly capable and maintains the necessary deterrence capabilities against contemporary african states including Angola. 4 Likes |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by EVarn(m): 8:43am On Sep 09, 2019 |
Odunayaw:True enough. Though I won't use the word "unmatched". The MPLA had a lot of support from Cuba, USSR and even Nigeria at a point, to the extent that withdrawal of US assistance to UNITA was part of Gorbachev's cold war demands.It was basically an impasse between the two sides. But I get your point. 1 Like |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by komekn(m): 11:16am On Sep 09, 2019 |
bidex111: I stopped contributing on this particular thread until i can actually do something positive otherwise i am just making noise. However, seeing this picture takes me back many many many years ago to my old cadet regiment in the UK ,the sten gun is relic from WW2 that's how old it is, it was one of my first guns i was introduced too. The range is effectively about 100 meters even within that its not great it has very little precision beyond that , considering the lightweight 9mm round it carries. Shocking is not the right word i am shocked by many things but to give this too combatants i am lost for words. 2 Likes |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by komekn(m): 11:21am On Sep 09, 2019 |
Covert1: To say something is better and or superior quality there is a need for comparison you do not stand in isolation and determine superiority. So considering our GDP, size and population who are you comparing Nigeria too Togo or Ghana |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 11:39am On Sep 09, 2019 |
EVarn:They actually did the crushing........Well until they lost all their foreign backing! |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by seankafor(m): 12:06pm On Sep 09, 2019 |
komekn:so u carry ur doublesstandard from super eagles thread to this place too? When it comes to steady power supply and insecurity and the rest, u no go remember say naija population and these small countries ain't the same.. But when it comes to military wise..u now bring your population size bullshiits.. Militarily, Togo and ghana combined cant match Nigeria..sue me to court. U better go back to ur isolation and never return |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by EVarn(m): 12:14pm On Sep 09, 2019 |
jln115:It was mostly a back and forth thing, though UNITA has the upper hand in terms of territorial possession for a long time. However, the MPLA was in control of the nation's economy and oil wealth throughout the period. |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 12:35pm On Sep 09, 2019 |
EVarn:Well of course MPLA was in control of the oil and the economy..... They were(still are) the ruling party/government of Angola. |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Bundeswehr: 4:24pm On Sep 09, 2019 |
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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by keep2silent: 4:50pm On Sep 09, 2019 |
Why Angola? Twas former favourite war talk in Nigerian barracks, Angola war was feared more than Liberia. UNITA got huge American help. Angola got foreign help. Nigerian army too gets huge MJNTF help from thousands of Chad, Niger, Cameroon soldiers, SF, fighting deep inside Nigerian towns. All Cuban military withdrew from Angola 1991, but war ended 2002 when Angolan army new offensive crushed UNITA militarily. Motorized Infantry is the big difference, huge offensive capability of Angolan Army Infantry guns, missiles armed 1,500 AFV IFV that I wish for Nigerian Army Super Camp strategy to flood whole North East, crush BHT, ISWAP much faster than they recruit. No need argue long stories of the war, face its final conclusion, Cambridge University scholars publication accurately says Angolan army defeated UNITA rebels militarily in 2002. We wish NA crush BHT, as UNITA was crushed. Why argue? 1 Like |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Covert1: 5:07pm On Sep 09, 2019 |
keep2silent: ISWAP/BHT is not UNITA. The former employs asymmetric means as a strategy of remaining relevant in a war it cannot win - The Nigerian Army is not going anywhere for these are our lands. The UNITA you mentioned fell apart with the opportune death of its leader Jonas Savimbi who was at the wrong place at the wrong time and not any textbook classical military defeat as you insinuate. Your accounts here are all mismatch not true history. The type of kinetic means of warfare you advocate against ISWAP/BHT is not possible as they are not a dug in conventional army with positions to engage. This is CT/COIN warfare with an unseen enemy willing to die for "God". Kapish. And Nigeria pays for the MNJTF whose rules of engagement allows for cross border operations of which Nigeria bears the bulk of combat responsibility. 4 Likes |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Odunayaw(m): 6:39pm On Sep 09, 2019 |
komekn:It'd not be too hard to produce a pic of the famed SAS wielding one in this fading decade 1 Like |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Odunayaw(m): 6:40pm On Sep 09, 2019 |
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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Odunayaw(m): 6:48pm On Sep 09, 2019 |
keep2silent:Forgive people like us that loves history. That said, I agree that the war effort should be mobile( not sacrificing armor). More perplexing is how our SF are employed. Reading about the ingenuity of Rhodesian/SADF SF leaves me scratching my head over how the Brass uses them 1 Like |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 8:00pm On Sep 09, 2019 |
INS Tarkash visit to Lagos 9 Likes 1 Share
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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 8:07pm On Sep 09, 2019 |
Odunayaw: I hope u heard the news uncle Bob died ! I am going to miss his quotes |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by seankafor(m): 8:21pm On Sep 09, 2019 |
nemesis8u:has the Nigerian navy ships had any sea shore combat experience ? |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 8:28pm On Sep 09, 2019 |
seankafor: No idea , am not informed on such matters Others may know |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by EVarn(m): 8:48pm On Sep 09, 2019 |
seankafor:Yes, in 1967 during the Biafran war, the Nigerian Navy shocked Colonel Ojukwu when NNS Nigeria and NNS Ogoja cannoned Biafran installations in Bonny and in a spectacular amphibious landing, took over the oil fields in the area. Biafra's flagship BNS Ibadan was also grounded and destroyed while engaging NNS Ogoja off the Bonny coast. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by seankafor(m): 8:50pm On Sep 09, 2019 |
EVarn:thanks for clarification. That's donkey years thoor |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by komekn(m): 8:52pm On Sep 09, 2019 |
Odunayaw: I didn't even know the sten gun was still in service by anybody. One if the things I find very disheartening is the complete and total lack of knowledge of our oversight national legislative committees exercise of compliance and accountability with what's going on in the south East. 1 Like |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by EVarn(m): 9:01pm On Sep 09, 2019 |
seankafor:43 years is a short time when it comes to history, especially in the life of a nation. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by komekn(m): 9:03pm On Sep 09, 2019 |
Odunayaw: The very heavy and unacceptable casualty rate of the NA can be explained primarily by the overwhelming use of soft skinned vehicles. We send our highly prized special forces combatants on very expensive training courses across the globe. Then when they return we stick them in the back of a soft skinned pick up right in the heart of the kill zone. I am not sure if the NA has a definitive IFV. 5 Likes |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by LTGEN: 9:07pm On Sep 09, 2019 |
seankafor:The NN also saw heavy action during the 1990S They were responsible for the heavy shelling of the presidential palace of LIBERIA also for bringing MEN and EQUIPMENT to both S/Leone AND Liberia. NN UNITY was also dispatched to GAMBIA armed this also helped convinced GAMBIA strongman to step down. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by keep2silent: 10:02pm On Sep 09, 2019 |
Covert1: I avoided direct argument with you because you are not a soldier from your writings, but I am a soldier, so we are not the same by orientation. I didn't advocate tactics you strangely name 'kinetic means of warfare', I advocated proper Motorized Infantry AFV, IFV instead of our weaker APC, soft skin Jeep doctrine, for our new Super Camp offensive adopted over defensive formations. You don't get it, NA actually started 'kinetic means', but it's called- Combined Arms Offensive. What I advocated is called ORBAT or OOB not 'kinetic means' as you wrongly called it. There's different between soldier and civilian, but we are all Nigerians. You won't understand depth I had in mind with that wish, it's technically beyond you my fellow countryman. Have a pleasant signal silent night. 2 Likes |
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