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Re: How Can Nigeria Produce An Ibo President? by MalcoImX: 9:21pm On Apr 23, 2015 |
CyerSeries:You derailed it. It was opened to look at peculiar Nigerian problem, the types that call for arrangements that would give each constituent a sense of belonging. As for others living in your areas, there are thousands of you living in other parts to one in your area. Why? If you want to be hawkish and insensitive you'll be given in the same measure. 1 Like |
Re: How Can Nigeria Produce An Ibo President? by Amazo: 9:28pm On Apr 23, 2015 |
xtayle: Are the ibos reading this? Truth be told, other tribes have trust issues with ibos and the reasons are very valid. So ibos need to really work on this area. There are several nations with a nuclear arsenal but yet the civilized world don't want a nuclear armed Iran and it's simply because no one TRUSTS them with what they're going to do if they had nukes. Same way other tribes don't trust and are skeptical (with some hint of fear) about an ibo presidency in Nigeria. Just who knows what the ibos will do with such political power: maybe it will be payback time for the civil war most ibos still cling to, or maybe they'll use that political might to finally carve out Biafra and divide Nigeria, or something else. So I think other Nigerian tribes kind of view an ibo presidency as being a political wild card with so much uncertainty in its outcome. The Ibo political class and people in general need to pragmatically earn the trust of other Nigerian tribes. |
Re: How Can Nigeria Produce An Ibo President? by MalcoImX: 9:29pm On Apr 23, 2015 |
CyerSeries:You are a neophyte. Nobody gives you that. If you're waiting for it to be given what you'll get are crumbs. That is not given; you negotiate, fight, arrange, give, take, insist etc., which you seem to be running away from. |
Re: How Can Nigeria Produce An Ibo President? by CyerSeries: 9:32pm On Apr 23, 2015 |
MalcoImX:Ibos only go to others part of the country to do business because there is much competition here (because everybody is in one business or the other ) compared to other parts of the country where there is less competition because people there are not much into business. So that you chose not to live here is none of my business. Nigerian constitution mandates anybody to reside in any part of the country he or she wants, so their is nothing you can do about it., |
Re: How Can Nigeria Produce An Ibo President? by CyerSeries: 9:35pm On Apr 23, 2015 |
MalcoImX:neophyte for asking for a level playing ground for everybody? |
Re: How Can Nigeria Produce An Ibo President? by MalcoImX: 9:39pm On Apr 23, 2015 |
CyerSeries:You don't have to tell us what's obvious. We know that. You're trying to be unreasonable and the way to make you understand is to be unreasonable too. |
Re: How Can Nigeria Produce An Ibo President? by Amazo: 9:44pm On Apr 23, 2015 |
CyerSeries: "Allow us fight for our survival" you say? This kind of mentality is enslaving the potential of the ibo tribe. This is 2015, and the civil war ended in 1970. You need to stop "fighting" others for survival and start living. |
Re: How Can Nigeria Produce An Ibo President? by MalcoImX: 9:45pm On Apr 23, 2015 |
CyerSeries:Are you still asking to be given? What do you give too? Dundee United asking Real Madrid or Barcelona to score only 5 goals in a tournament match is asking for level playing field too. |
Re: How Can Nigeria Produce An Ibo President? by Amazo: 9:49pm On Apr 23, 2015 |
ramdris: Another sensible contribution! Ibos are you paying attention? |
Re: How Can Nigeria Produce An Ibo President? by Amazo: 9:58pm On Apr 23, 2015 |
MalcoImX: Here's the sense I picked from what this smart Nigerian is saying: to achieve an ibo presidency, the ibos must play politics better than what they've been doing. Now, I think the political ecosystem in Nigeria is a shapeshifter, so the ibos need to evolve politically and be more flexible. Playing rigid politics won't work. |
Re: How Can Nigeria Produce An Ibo President? by aresa: 10:01pm On Apr 23, 2015 |
Amazo: Like I said earlier, it's a societal and cultural thing with ibo people and I don't see it going away anytime soon, in fact it's getting worse as seen during the last few elections. It's like they don't have any right thinking adult in iboland. Look at Achebe's last book, it was filled with the same hate and bitterness rant. Ngozi Adichie's response to Oba of Lagos's statement was laced with the same civil war and tribal hostage taking garbage when in fact it's leadership failure at home. They have state governors with nothing to show after 16 years in office, the region is still unproductive and economically inhospitable for their people to thrive in, they are basically satisfied with their people forever seeking survival outside iboland and wherever they go, they end up disrespecting and annoying their host communities with the same emotional and insensitive nonsense... They can not hold the rest of the country down with their flawed civil war emotional ransom. |
Re: How Can Nigeria Produce An Ibo President? by Amazo: 10:02pm On Apr 23, 2015 |
EUROBOMBER: The Nigerian presidency at this time in this new democratic dispensation can't be won via a political handout system. It must be earned. |
Re: How Can Nigeria Produce An Ibo President? by Amazo: 10:04pm On Apr 23, 2015 |
aresa: This is deep. 1 Like |
Re: How Can Nigeria Produce An Ibo President? by Amazo: 10:07pm On Apr 23, 2015 |
EUROBOMBER: We all hope so, but when? How bad do the ibos want it? So far, it seems ibos want the presidency but keep doing things that keep the presidency out of their reach. Some crucial changes are obviously a necessity. |
Re: How Can Nigeria Produce An Ibo President? by CyerSeries: 10:07pm On Apr 23, 2015 |
Amazo:when I said fighting for survival, I mean merit ..Set a standard for everything ..Anybody that merits the standard, let the person take it..if an ibo is not able to meet up with the standard, don't give it to him..that's what I'm talking about..did you get me? |
Re: How Can Nigeria Produce An Ibo President? by Amazo: 10:18pm On Apr 23, 2015 |
Rexxie: I think Jonathan subtly and tactically accomplished a notable feat in the SS (particularly oil producing regions). He empowered its local political militia groups financially and militarily; and I think this was done should in case "One Nigeria" fails, they would have the capacity to prevent outsiders from accessing the oil in their lands. So ibos should take note, you can't build Biafra with SS oil, unless you want Dokubo and fellow militias to do target practice on you. |
Re: How Can Nigeria Produce An Ibo President? by Amazo: 10:20pm On Apr 23, 2015 |
CyerSeries: Understood! |
Re: How Can Nigeria Produce An Ibo President? by aresa: 10:37pm On Apr 23, 2015 |
Rexxie: Please kindly list so called stringent and hash governmental policies. 1. Ibo people above other tribes in Nigeria have occupied every top public office in Nigeria starting from president to vice president, head of state, ministers, ambassadors, directors and managers, permanent secretaries, secretary to the FG, agency directors, CBN directors, governors and even GEJ's administration is loaded in favor of ibo people so exactly what are you talking about? 2. The 2ng Niger bridge is still a dream because this is what ibo people wanted. Why keep supporting me and voting for me every 4 years for 16 long years after failing you woefully? It's your fault and never mine. They say once bitten twice shy, but theirs is 4 times bitten and never shy. 3. People reap what they sow. We vote for and elect our local public officials to look out for us and our elected national leaders to fight for us and send infrastructures and government programs back home. The question now is, what have all the ibo leaders in GEJ admin sent home? What have the local leaders built since 1999? Nothing. 4. The only way they deflect and hide their failure is to point fingers and blame everything on other people or tribes Tribalism is what people use to shield their collective failure.... |
Re: How Can Nigeria Produce An Ibo President? by pazienza(m): 10:55pm On Apr 23, 2015 |
aresa: What failure are you talking about? Ndiigbo are naturally ahead of all Nigerian groups in all aspects of human development. That to me, is success. https://www.nairaland.com/2263635/south-east-south-west-south-south-lead-attainment 1 Like |
Re: How Can Nigeria Produce An Ibo President? by Smooyis(m): 11:00pm On Apr 23, 2015 |
Forgive and be forgiven |
Re: How Can Nigeria Produce An Ibo President? by Amazo: 11:04pm On Apr 23, 2015 |
pazienza: The richest Nigerian is not ibo; The smartest Nigerian is not ibo; The most popular Nigerian is not ibo... And I could go on and on. So how are the ibos naturally ahead of all other Nigerian groups in terms of human development? This is just another usual false claim ibos like you make that is devoid of proven and proveable facts. Keep deceiving yourself. |
Re: How Can Nigeria Produce An Ibo President? by aresa: 11:07pm On Apr 23, 2015 |
pazienza: Human development and you and your people can not make a living inside your towns and villages? What are you human developing? Empty, meaningless and shallow chest beating is annoying.. |
Re: How Can Nigeria Produce An Ibo President? by victor4ekele(m): 11:10pm On Apr 23, 2015 |
just passing by, but the real matter is that we need an honest, truthful man to lead not tribes Amazo:just passing by, but the real matter is that we need an honest, truthful man to lead not tribes Victor O Ekele |
Re: How Can Nigeria Produce An Ibo President? by pazienza(m): 11:15pm On Apr 23, 2015 |
Amazo: The richest Nigerians are beneficiaries of the military regime,Nigerian treasury and favourable government policies that made them monopolists. Which Nigerian is smarter than Achebe? pray tell. Which Nigerian is more popular than Kanu Nwankwor and Jay jay Okocha? You have no case. Collectively in all human development indices, Ndiigbo are ahead of all Nigerian groups. It's a fact you can choose to accept, or simply go take an otapiapia and end your misery. Aka ekpuchi onwa! |
Re: How Can Nigeria Produce An Ibo President? by pazienza(m): 11:20pm On Apr 23, 2015 |
aresa: Igbo towns are villages are better developed than their Nigerian counterparts, despite govt neglect and failure to rebuild the East after the war. Enugu is a beautiful city, likewise Owerri, Awka, Abakaliki and Umuahia. Many Igbos are making a living in the East, that's why Abia and Anambra were chosen for the cashless initiative, too much money flowing there, yet no crude oil or FG presence, just sheer ingenuity of Ndiigbo! This is no chest beating, this is calling a spade a spade! Deal with it. |
Re: How Can Nigeria Produce An Ibo President? by aresa: 11:26pm On Apr 23, 2015 |
[s] pazienza:[/s] Please keep quiet.. |
Re: How Can Nigeria Produce An Ibo President? by Duru1(m): 11:34pm On Apr 23, 2015 |
Any Igbo son or daughter that hungers for the presidency of the cesspit called Nigeria should be shot. The only bright light of structured development out of the British blunder is disintegration. |
Re: How Can Nigeria Produce An Ibo President? by pazienza(m): 11:37pm On Apr 23, 2015 |
aresa: Lol! You are amazed by the Igbo man pride in his achievements right? You go about denigrating him, expecting him to be cowed and roll over, instead you are met with resistance of people filled with sense of group worth and dignity! Haha! Ndo. |
Re: How Can Nigeria Produce An Ibo President? by Amazo: 11:38pm On Apr 23, 2015 |
pazienza: With all due respect to the living and dead, mentioning Chinua Achebe (whose claim to prominence is mainly as a successful novelist) as the smartest Nigerian is not only dumb but an insult to Nigeria at large. Even in the world of literature, with all his literary prowess (and no one can deny him this), he still couldn't win a Nobel prize in literature, but guess what, Wole Soyinka is a Nobel laureate. So even, in the Nigerian literary sphere, Achebe was really good but not the best. He might have sold more books (Things Fall Apart) but quality and quantity are different dimensional entities. Kanu Nwankwo / Jay Jay Okocha as the most popular Nigerians? This in itself is totally laughable. Even Dbanj alone is popular than these two combined 1 Like |
Re: How Can Nigeria Produce An Ibo President? by Amazo: 11:43pm On Apr 23, 2015 |
victor4ekele: Agreed! But our center of discussion is how an ibo presidency can be a reality in today's Nigeria. I believe there are honest and truthful ibos too. |
Re: How Can Nigeria Produce An Ibo President? by pazienza(m): 11:45pm On Apr 23, 2015 |
Amazo: No one knows Dbanj other than Yorubas! *grins* P square are more popular than them, check out who leads in you tube views? There is more to popularity than galivanting around the world seeking for cheap popularity. Wole Soyinka is a man that needs the Nobel prize to be relevant, Achebe was effortlessly relevant without the Nobel prize. He was even Times magazine most influential African man before his death. Haha! Imagine comparing international stars like Jay jay and Kanu with an attention seeking Yoruba man Dbanj, you need deliverance. |
Re: How Can Nigeria Produce An Ibo President? by Stillfire: 11:54pm On Apr 23, 2015 |
Amazo: But why is it giving you sleepless nights? We know the people that can only feed themselves if their people are in the 'center', the irony is that majority of that populace will still remain in poverty . The Igbo man does not need the 'center' to feed his family. You guys should stop crying more than the bereaved. The driving force of any thriving society is entrepreneurship and innovation. The Igbo has that. You can have the politics. If you say you are the 'change' Nigeria needs, the Buhari government better prove it! Because if I smell any marginalization of my people's business in the East, I will personally pull down the Buhari government! The pen is mightier than the sword! |
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