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Re: TRINITARIANS, How Do You Honestly Interpret This Verse In The Bible? by johnw74: 12:25am On May 21, 2015 |
Appleyard: I will make it clear, I am a Christian and not a brother to evil. when faced with certain facts, he denied that he never argued on God's unlimited presence and capability to do different things at one time, but when same scriptures now speaks and extablished the Almighty's power of Omnipresence and outright ability to do two different things at the same time, he won't accept any of it. Of course you didn't post quotes to those lies of yours did you? for they do not exist do they? satan is also the father of liars, isn't he? |
Re: TRINITARIANS, How Do You Honestly Interpret This Verse In The Bible? by johnw74: 12:45am On May 21, 2015 |
Appleyard: That's just a very weak way of rejecting Psalm 110:1 isn't it? of being unable to reply to it's truth isn't it? and instead you prefer to continue accusing and holding onto lies, don't you? johnw74: coupled with your inability to to accept that you have been misled in worshiping what you dont know.. lies, lies. lies, right down the page post after post page after page I'm very happy to announce I worship the Father of my Lord Jesus Christ and I know Him more importantly He knows me He doesn't know habitual liars His Spirit of course is not in them is why they continually lie. |
Re: TRINITARIANS, How Do You Honestly Interpret This Verse In The Bible? by johnw74: 12:55am On May 21, 2015 |
Appleyard: You go to great lengths to twist scripture into saying something else apparently Jesus instruction to baptise in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit was wrong according to you, and so the disciples-apostles changed it you say your attempt is very weak, but it is in fact evil to reject and change scriptures as you do. The verse means exactly what Jesus Christ said. Mat_28:19 Therefore go and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, Deu 12:32 What thing soever I command you, observe to do it: thou shalt not add thereto, nor diminish from it. Rev 22:18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: Rev 22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. |
Re: TRINITARIANS, How Do You Honestly Interpret This Verse In The Bible? by johnw74: 1:16am On May 21, 2015 |
Appleyard: Much of what you call facts is just your delusion. Psa 110:1 A Psalm of David. Jehovah said to my Lord, Sit at My right hand until I place Your enemies as Your footstool. Jehovah God, said to the Word Jesus Christ, sit at my right hand... |
Re: TRINITARIANS, How Do You Honestly Interpret This Verse In The Bible? by johnw74: 1:21am On May 21, 2015 |
Appleyard: Mat_28:19 Therefore go and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, It was Jesus Christ who said to baptize them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit appleyard said if you are baptized in the name of the Father, the son, and the Holy Spirit then you are not even in Christ at the first place... Pro 30:6 Do not add to His Words, lest He reprove you and you be found a liar. You appleyard are found a liar in nearly every one of your posts. |
Re: TRINITARIANS, How Do You Honestly Interpret This Verse In The Bible? by 5solas(m): 10:22am On May 21, 2015 |
An2elect2:Would like to know what you disagree with first. On the other hand, I will go through the thread and comment later. |
Re: TRINITARIANS, How Do You Honestly Interpret This Verse In The Bible? by An2elect2(f): 2:59pm On May 21, 2015 |
5solas: Okay. I think going through the thread first will help. And am still awaiting your comment! |
Re: TRINITARIANS, How Do You Honestly Interpret This Verse In The Bible? by zodiakzax: 7:18pm On May 21, 2015 |
Appleyard:simple, my question to you is how do you pray? Do you pray to the Father in the name of Jesus? |
Re: TRINITARIANS, How Do You Honestly Interpret This Verse In The Bible? by zodiakzax: 7:41pm On May 21, 2015 |
The Trinity is not something that needs to be taught or understood. It's a truth that the Holy Spirit witness to our spirit. That is the very foundation of our faith. That is our believe. You blv Jesus is God, true He is God, and the Holy Spirit is God and the Father is God. So if you acknowledge Jesus, then I am okay. After all it's just the same thing. We will not be Christians if we don't acknowledge Jesus as our saviour. When we become born again, we accept Jesus and the Holy Spirit comes to live in us. We believe Jesus is sitting at the right hand of God (Mark 16:20,Romans. 8:34) and He intercedes to God for us. You know part truth and we have the whole truth, we donot deny your truth that Jesus is God and God is one, but you see there's a greater truth and that is Jesus is the Word of God, and Holy Spirit is the Spirit of God and the Father is God and this three are one.What matters is you blv in Jesus. I don't know how you pray though but that's up to u.cheers 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: TRINITARIANS, How Do You Honestly Interpret This Verse In The Bible? by bingbagbo(m): 8:10pm On May 21, 2015 |
zodiakzax: so you worship 3 distinct Gods who are together....refer to deuteronomy 6:4 YOU ACKNOWLEDGE THAT JESUS IS YOUR SAVIOR? THEN SEE THIS, Isaiah 43:11 I, I am Jehovah; and there is no Savior [yasha`, Strong’s #3467] besides Me.. PRAY |
Re: TRINITARIANS, How Do You Honestly Interpret This Verse In The Bible? by Barnabaseloka(m): 10:57pm On May 21, 2015 |
bingbagbo:How many times will you be made to understand that we do not worship three distinct Gods. The Father is God. The Son and the Spirit have the nature of God in them, making them God (but not the Father). If the Son and the Spirit have in them ALL things (the nature) that made the Father to be God, will they not act as God in everything? If you possess all the qualities that your father has, will you not act like your father in everything? Yet, you are not your father, but a son to your father. All that matters is believing in Jesus Christ and be saved! 1 Like |
Re: TRINITARIANS, How Do You Honestly Interpret This Verse In The Bible? by johnw74: 1:02am On May 22, 2015 |
bingbagbo: No matter how many times it has been told you that there are three persons in One God you cannot help but lyingly accuse just like satan does, and say, "you believe in three distinct gods" Jehovah or LORD is the Jewish name for God God is, God and the Word there is no Saviour beside Him. Of course this is for the benefit of believers. |
Re: TRINITARIANS, How Do You Honestly Interpret This Verse In The Bible? by johnw74: 7:06am On May 26, 2015 |
jw lies describing the Trinity < my words Part of the article: “The Watch Tower of June 1882 stated: “At this time, therefore, the doctrine of three Gods was invented …”” Proclaimers p.125 “The disgusting idolatry of the religions of Christendom and pagandom has been set aside by Jehovah's restored people. Their worship is not distributed to three gods in one, the so-called godhead of some mysterious Trinity, but they are united as the one people who worship the one God, Jehovah.” Watchtower 1984 Mar 1 p.23 “… a trinity of three gods in one, …” Awake! 1998 Dec 8 p.11 “… teach that God is a trinity of three gods in one, …” Awake! 1989 Jan 22 p.23 "If he is one Jehovah, then could he be three gods, God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Ghost, as the Trinitarians teach?" Watchtower1970 Apr 1 p.210 “Christendom has copied the heathen, pagan nations of Asia in teaching that God is a trinity, three Gods in one Person.” Watchtower 1962 Apr 15 p.235 Read the article here: http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/trinity.php |
Re: TRINITARIANS, How Do You Honestly Interpret This Verse In The Bible? by johnw74: 7:20am On May 26, 2015 |
Trinitarians say they believe in three persons in One God jw say: Trinitarians believe in three gods in one person jw's are habitual liars, always putting up strawman arguments, changing what others say and then commenting on that and why not when considering who their father is Jesus talking to the pharisees of His day: Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. My words above more on jw here: http://www.jwfacts.com/ |
Re: TRINITARIANS, How Do You Honestly Interpret This Verse In The Bible? by adelee777: 5:39am On Jun 29, 2016 |
[quote author=Barnabaseloka post=33676561] You got it wrong. Christ Jesus was not created but exists with God. John 1:1-3 1. In the beginning was the Word (Jesus) and the Word was with God (the Father) and the Word was God (as a personality). Note the initial capital letter in 'Word.' this shows a living being. In the beginning means any time that life started or that God existed. Sorry, u can't use dat logic. D bible states ''in the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.'' so, according to ur logic, God just created d heavens n d earth as His first ever action? Dat text might mean ''in d beginning of creation, there was the Word. Relate dis to Revelation 3:14 ''...the beginning of the creation of God''. Thanx. |
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