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Re: Saraki Vs Tinubu Comparism: Why Overrate Bukola Saraki? by OduaVanguard: 6:50pm On Jun 27, 2015 |
austinsmat: If as you say that Saraki has "edged" Ashiwaju coz he's Senate President today, then can we also say that Tinubu single-handedly handpicked VP Oshibajo (the number 2 most powerful office) who has also "edged" Saraki's office? 1 Like |
Re: Saraki Vs Tinubu Comparism: Why Overrate Bukola Saraki? by Nobody: 7:13pm On Jun 27, 2015 |
kinibigdeal:Bros, when it comes to Obanikoro, I can take my time to school you. For the record, Koro is a force on his own no doubt but he was never at anytime larger than Tinubu. Of course he has been a Chairman LILG but it was under NRC (during Otedola administration). He wasn't Çhairman under AD at anytime. Koro would later be Home Affairs Commis§ioner under Governor Tinubu. Tinubu had to draft in Musliu Obanikoro and then Speaker Olorunwambe Mamora to fly the AD tickets of Lagos Central and Lagos East respectively after incumbents Sen Wahab Dosunmu and Adeseye Ogunlewe left AD to PDP. Wahab Dosunmu would have easily fly the AD ticket IF he hadn't defected which means Koro wouldnÞ have gone to the Senate in 2003. As for Saraki, the office of Senate President isn't "so powerful". He can't make unnanimous decision of his own without the "yay" of His colleagues. He has no executive powers of his own nor does it come with political influence. Seems you forget that even David Mark couldn't influence his Benue state to win for PDP. We have had Wabara, Àyim, okadigbo, Nnamani occupy the seat and they were just there. Abeg no de jonze joor. 3 Likes |
Re: Saraki Vs Tinubu Comparism: Why Overrate Bukola Saraki? by KeyX10: 7:28pm On Jun 27, 2015 |
"In 2011 Saraki's father wanted Bukola to go to Senate but Gbemi his daughter to become Governor. Saraki however had Abdulfattah Ahmed in mind. THE TRUTH IS SARAKI AND HIS FATHER PLAYED A FAST ONE ON KWARA PEOPLE. The ACN candidate Muhammed Balgore was gaining momentum, Saraki's father had to play the Gbemi card by forming ACPN to confuse the electorates and split the ACN's vote. In fact, on June 5, 2011 just 8 days after Gov Ahmed was inaugurated , Olusola Saraki and Bukola Saraki "re-united" after Bukola "begged", the PDP and Pa Saraki ACPN merged as one BIG Family. Pa Olusola Saraki was again affirmed to be the leader of PDP in Kwara. Saraki and his sister Gbemi were to play the same trick in 2015. How? Gbemi remained in PDP after Saraki moved to APC in 2013. SHE CAUSED LOTS OF TROUBLES and had her faction and then dumped PDP to APC on the eve of 2015 Presidential election AFTER DELIBERATELY DESTROYED THE PARTY FROM WITHIN." The assertions above especially the highlighted are grossly figment of a fertile permutations of writer's imagination rather than any statement of fact. As much as I may not be in agreement with the Bukola Saraki's House of Cards, I believe that fact should be sacred as a basis of documenting history. 1. Gbemi and Bukola had (and still have) political differences that predated the 2011 governorship clash between the two of them. So the fact that Bukola opposed Gbemi's guber ambition wasn't for any politics of altruism on the part of Bukola (as his fans would want the world to believe) but his greed and propensity to monopolize the political structure in that state by all means necessary. If indeed he felt it was inappropriate for Gbemi, his sister, to become governor of their state after him, why in the world was it appropriate for him to inherit the same senatorial seat immediately vacated by the same sister? Beside he found an alibi in covering up his fraud and corruption in the state by antagonizing Gbemi (that has a stellar career without fraud and corruption) and installing his partner in crime, his commissioner of finance for 8 years, that would cover up his financial atrocities. Has the writer bothered to ask what were the political rewards that accrued to Gbemi after the 2011 if indeed it was a game played on Kwarans? In spite her 12 years experience at the National Assembly (4 years at HOR; 8 years at Senate) with over 11 Legislative Bills to her name at that Senate alone and not a single allegation of corruption or fraud, Gbemi went on political hibernation for 4 years. If it were a game, won't she has been nominated for one political office or another for her part in the 'fast one played on Kwara people'? 2. The so-called reconciliation between Bukola and Pa Saraki's ACPN after Bukola had executed his game was a mere legitimization of Bukola's deception in order to box the old man into a tight corner. Of course he achieved just that. I guess Gbemi saw through the deception and that must have necessitated her non-inclusion in the shenanigan of Bukola and his gangs. 3. When Gbemi reactivated her political structure after the Bukola decamped to APC, there was no way it was meant to energize the same shenanigan and deception that Bukola was playing as his basis of political brand. She intended to revamp her political career in order to differentiate between true leadership that isn't tainted with corruption, fraud and deception and what was been played by Bukola and his gang in that state. It was quite unfortunate that PDP in Kwara and its leadership in collusion with the GEJ Presidency not only frustrated her genuine contributions but indeed made her the butt of their attacks right from the word go. Because of her formidable political structure and followership, Gbemi became a threat to some self serving leaders of PDP in Kwara and they didn't leave any stone untouched to frustrate her ambition and her growing popularity. Therefore, the allegation that "SHE CAUSED LOTS OF TROUBLES and had her faction and then dumped PDP to APC on the eve of 2015 Presidential election AFTER DELIBERATELY DESTROYED THE PARTY FROM WITHIN" was quite inappropriate in situating Gbemi's experience in the PDP adventure. She supported Buhari on the eve of the election but apparently her decision wasn't influenced by any appreciation of the brand of politics of Bukola; it was merely a collateral benefit to him and his gang in that state. If there is any single political figure that can stand up to Bukola in Kwara state, the person would be Gbemi and it's the reason why Bukola would stop at nothing to prevent her from gaining any political prominence as long as he has the control of the political fate of that Kwara state, and it doesn't matter whether they share the same party or not. 3 Likes |
Re: Saraki Vs Tinubu Comparism: Why Overrate Bukola Saraki? by Panshow(m): 7:29pm On Jun 27, 2015 |
Barcanista, I know some Tanoids will be angry with you for saying this. But that's just the truth. Always stand your ground and say the truth regardless of party affiliation. |
Re: Saraki Vs Tinubu Comparism: Why Overrate Bukola Saraki? by oladele97: 7:31pm On Jun 27, 2015 |
onatisi:all this you are saying is just a mere speculation. no concrete evidence to back it up |
Re: Saraki Vs Tinubu Comparism: Why Overrate Bukola Saraki? by ims80s(m): 7:31pm On Jun 27, 2015 |
u off all people, make i hear se u won join change |
Re: Saraki Vs Tinubu Comparism: Why Overrate Bukola Saraki? by onatisi(m): 7:35pm On Jun 27, 2015 |
oladele97:mere speculation I won't argue with u. It shows u were not deep in nigeria politics in 1999 or before then . I no go argue . Ask ppl who were involved in nadeco ,AD they will tell u the story and events of how tinubu got the AD governorship ticket in 1999 |
Re: Saraki Vs Tinubu Comparism: Why Overrate Bukola Saraki? by kinibigdeal(m): 7:36pm On Jun 27, 2015 |
barcanista: I still don't buy into your school of thought even though you chose to school me sarcastically. If Tinubu draft Obanikoro to run for the seat of a senate, who control AD then tinubu or Afenifere's? For record purpose, koro was a chairman in 1999(check your archive please). My God! Office of Senate president isn't so powerful barcanista "Am surprise you just talk like those people living in the third world" Do you know that the office of the SP is more powerful than that of the vice president? Do you know what they call a leader with influence? Please find out. A saraki with the backing of his caucus can destabilize buhari govt if they wish to. Do you understand what we call the separation of power? If not, please go back and read what the constitution says about the constitutional power of the senate president. After the president in a country, the next is the SP not even the vice. If you wan't me to school you about the political influence of David mark currently and in the past, I will be eager to do so. Your definition of influence is outside of the context in quote. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Saraki Vs Tinubu Comparism: Why Overrate Bukola Saraki? by Benzzle: 7:46pm On Jun 27, 2015 |
barcanista:but don't you like as everybody is hailing you for once for not being biased and foolish Nice articles like this is what we need not everytime you come up with thrash...kudos and call your thugs to order 1 Like |
Re: Saraki Vs Tinubu Comparism: Why Overrate Bukola Saraki? by Panshow(m): 7:51pm On Jun 27, 2015 |
Zeezy99:Bros, stop deceiving yourself saying Saraki have influence in the north. I am from the north and I know how politics is being played here. Saraki does not have any influence outside his Kwara stay. As a matter of fact, a South east Rochas have a better chance of becoming a crowd puller in the north than a North central Saraki. Did I hear you say Northerners will prefer Saraki than Tinubu?. This is laughable. |
Re: Saraki Vs Tinubu Comparism: Why Overrate Bukola Saraki? by SUBWAY101(m): 7:52pm On Jun 27, 2015 |
HzRF: No need arguing with you. You be learner abeg. |
Re: Saraki Vs Tinubu Comparism: Why Overrate Bukola Saraki? by olumuyiwah25(m): 7:53pm On Jun 27, 2015 |
Nice post......... |
Re: Saraki Vs Tinubu Comparism: Why Overrate Bukola Saraki? by Nobody: 7:59pm On Jun 27, 2015 |
We should be fair with fact. I repeat that Koro was never Chairman of LILG under AD. He was Home Affairs Commissioner between 1999 and 2003. In 2003 Tinubu wrestled control of Lagos AD structure from Afenifere. Nobody is an Island, Koro had his own followers in Lagos Island no doubt (just like GOS in Mushin) and Tinubu influenced his emergence as Lagos Central AD Candidate. Do you know who Senator DÓsunmu was in the 1990s? Do you know that it was a major blow for 2 powerful Senators to defect to the powerful PDP at a go? Do you think Musliu Obanikoro would have been elected Senator IF he was PDP candidate and Dosunmu was AD? Well we are not talking of Koro and Tinubu here. I love Koro btw! As for Senate President, bros they are overrated especially in Nigeria. Make we no deceive ourselves. Bankole couldn't even win re-election despite being incumbent Speaker. Ken Nnamani had to respect himself because Chimaroke Nnamani didn't like his face. GEJ had to intervene for Ekeremadu to get ticket from Chime. Tambawal had to be loyal to Wamako to get Sokoto state APC tickett and win the election. Oga no be today. 2 Likes |
Re: Saraki Vs Tinubu Comparism: Why Overrate Bukola Saraki? by mandhi(m): 8:10pm On Jun 27, 2015 |
barcanista:Well said my friend. Aw far now, long time. Aw is being in opposition now. 1 Like |
Re: Saraki Vs Tinubu Comparism: Why Overrate Bukola Saraki? by oladele97: 8:14pm On Jun 27, 2015 |
onatisi: with all this you said, he still struggle to get it himself...and not with the help of any godfather. where is Adesanya today, and Funsho William |
Re: Saraki Vs Tinubu Comparism: Why Overrate Bukola Saraki? by ApcSucks: 8:15pm On Jun 27, 2015 |
Re: Saraki Vs Tinubu Comparism: Why Overrate Bukola Saraki? by emirofcalabar(m): 8:22pm On Jun 27, 2015 |
without holding brief for Saraki, @ Bacarnista I think you ve failed to tell N/landers the no of party that made up the APC. we have the ANPP led by our amiable President in the person of Buhari. ACN led by the Asiwaju himself and the new PDP led by d former chairman of PDP Baraje who is a well known loyalist of Saraki. Now if we have a marriage of three brides one is the president the other is the vice, if the no 3 position is Senate president who do you think should have it? well that's gone and he's now the SP, I believe as politicians they are both result oriented if they were both presidential aspirants, both 2terms gov, asiwaju installed fashola and aregbe and Saraki did same in the Case of fatai ahmed and brought some gov from the new PDP too. Now if oloye brought ABS to limelight I think Lagos got to know asiwaju through d late Iyaloja of lag. Age is of essence in this game which I soppose ABS has on his side. just watch him become the next president. 2 Likes |
Re: Saraki Vs Tinubu Comparism: Why Overrate Bukola Saraki? by Panshow(m): 8:23pm On Jun 27, 2015 |
mployer:Tanoids stop living in self denial. It'll do you no good. I don't know about Tinubu's popularity in the SS&SE but don’t even mention NC, NE&NW, cos Tinubu is a crowd puller here. The north will forever remember Tinubu for his role in the victory of GMB at the poll. Saraki is only a champion in his home state Kwara, beyond that, he stands no where close to Tinubu. If you guys in the SS&SE are rooting for a person of Saraki and you think it's same here in the north then you're only deceiving yourselves. |
Re: Saraki Vs Tinubu Comparism: Why Overrate Bukola Saraki? by callmenow: 8:27pm On Jun 27, 2015 |
Hogwash. Old wives tale. Politics, especially the Nigerian variety is full of intrigues and subterfuge. The predilection of the Nigerian politicians is to leverage their 'wealth' to win on the day, due to the propensity of 'minor' politicians to accept egunje from 'major' politicians at the appropriate time. You may have witnessed this during the APC 'presidential round robin in lagos'. Buhari came through with Tinubu and Amaechi's money sharing bonanza. There is gainsaying about the so called structure. Structure minus money is a loser. Quite simply Tinubu is a thug. He threatens his colleagues. Despite his diminutive stature, when he is enraged, you do not want to be around. And he can order a 'hit'. He was never a silver spoon fed scion. Saraki is a silver spoon fed brat, who has always considered himself superior on the account of his money. Essentially, Saraki believes that every Nigerian has a price. He is right not to worry about 'structure'. He tactics is disruptive. After all Tambuwal used it effectively at the house without relying on structure. Since Nigeria swings from one crisis to another permanently, it makes sense to ignore 'structure'. Since Tinubu and his structure may not be around in a few years time anyway. Saraki is in poll position. APC will never seat down in a round table to discuss him anytime soon. Buhari is not interested. APC is not interested. Tinubu can rage as much as he wants, Saraki has senate president helicopter, plane and security to boot. |
Re: Saraki Vs Tinubu Comparism: Why Overrate Bukola Saraki? by SUBWAY101(m): 8:29pm On Jun 27, 2015 |
ApcSucks: You dull bro. Who be pendy? Dont lemme curse the pendy abeg. I dey ignore you since cos you dey misfire. |
Re: Saraki Vs Tinubu Comparism: Why Overrate Bukola Saraki? by Daddi: 8:32pm On Jun 27, 2015 |
jimmysho:He has always been objective maybe you've opened your mind to his reasonings or his objectivity faults who you like /support . all the same good analysis barcanista 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Saraki Vs Tinubu Comparism: Why Overrate Bukola Saraki? by mployer(m): 8:48pm On Jun 27, 2015 |
Panshow: You are the one living in self-denial. That your lonely self is in love with Tinubu doesn't translate to the North being in love with him. Immediately GMB emerged as president, it was in the news that the North wants to cut Tinubu to size, and they did it, even with the support of GMB and Atiku. The Nothern youths have several times alleged that Tinubu is behind the call for GMB resignation. Northern APC leaders, Atiku and Tambuwal were among the first to congratulate Saraki. Moments later, GMB declared he will work with them while Tinubu and Lai Mohammed were still fuming with rage. I really don't see how this is a demonstration of love. |
Re: Saraki Vs Tinubu Comparism: Why Overrate Bukola Saraki? by softwareman(m): 8:58pm On Jun 27, 2015 |
kITATITA:PDP delusion again. El rural is against TINUBU but the two APC senators from kaduna state are in the lawan group. Buhari is against TINUBU, but ALL three senators from katsina state are in the lawan group. Kwankanso is against TINUBU, but ALL kano senators are in the lawan group. SARAKI power base is mainly among PDP senators from the south east and south. 1 Like |
Re: Saraki Vs Tinubu Comparism: Why Overrate Bukola Saraki? by onatisi(m): 9:08pm On Jun 27, 2015 |
oladele97:funsho williams is dead ,pa abraham adesanya is dead . |
Re: Saraki Vs Tinubu Comparism: Why Overrate Bukola Saraki? by ApcSucks: 9:08pm On Jun 27, 2015 |
SUBWAY101: Stop denying your moniker |
Re: Saraki Vs Tinubu Comparism: Why Overrate Bukola Saraki? by ruffDiamond: 10:06pm On Jun 27, 2015 |
barcanista:u dey mind the dindinrin ,I'm sure he's an Ilorin man cunning blaskish rat faced backstabber like his cursed fake yoruba people !JUDAS isarakious has nothing to offer kwarans let alone the whole Nigerians he will live to regret his treachery |
Re: Saraki Vs Tinubu Comparism: Why Overrate Bukola Saraki? by spenca: 10:06pm On Jun 27, 2015 |
accolades |
Re: Saraki Vs Tinubu Comparism: Why Overrate Bukola Saraki? by SUBWAY101(m): 10:29pm On Jun 27, 2015 |
ApcSucks: You are dumb. Check my post and that of pendy to cure your ignorance. |
Re: Saraki Vs Tinubu Comparism: Why Overrate Bukola Saraki? by lexydo007(m): 5:35am On Jun 28, 2015 |
barcanista:tinubu, the real owner of southwest |
Re: Saraki Vs Tinubu Comparism: Why Overrate Bukola Saraki? by mikolo80: 8:13am On Jun 28, 2015 |
nerodenero:You gas wade trudge and dig through mud and muck to get to the gold and diamonds my friend |
Re: Saraki Vs Tinubu Comparism: Why Overrate Bukola Saraki? by MOBBDEEP: 9:01am On Jun 28, 2015 |
KeyX10: Brilliant contribution & submission from a well politically knowledgable mind of yours, as against the sophistry put up by the OP. I guess the old heavy-weights in Political Section of NL knows better not to rub mind with him any longer!!! |
Re: Saraki Vs Tinubu Comparism: Why Overrate Bukola Saraki? by retsonbiz(m): 9:16am On Jun 28, 2015 |
@Barcanista...... I am a Buharist, But you go this one absolutely right...Kudos. You have intellectual property right infringement here https://www.facebook.com/oluolowe/posts/903380039701225 |
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