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Re: A Question For Tithe Payers by pilgrim1(f): 5:55pm On May 21, 2009 |
KunleOshob:initiate link=topic=242199.msg3900556#msg3900556 date=1242905399: The apostle did not condemn tithes in Hebrews 7. We've dealt with that chapter in another thread to show that it was not tithes that the apostle described in Hebrews 7:18 as 'weak and useless'. The one question that is left unanswered is WHAT exactly does Scripture describe as "weak and useless"? The reason why anti-tithers have never had an honest answer to that question is because they have substituted 'tithes' for the Law that Paul discussed in that chapter; and when they got stuck, it probably occured to them that they've argued completely off-course in the ambit of that chapter. How many honest theologians think that Hebrews 7:18 ('a disannulling of the commandment going before for the weakness and unprofitableness thereof') was referring to "tithes"? Not one that we know of. The remarkable thing is that even honest anti-tithers who do a bit of theology have never described that verse as describing 'tithes' to be weak and useless. Why? Simple: they will not find any other verse in the entire Bible that describes tithes as such. I also quoted just a few honest Bible scholars who have commented on Hebrews 7:18 - none of them regard that verse as pointing to 'tithes': [list] [1] Verse eighteen specifically states that “there is a setting aside of[/list] [list] [2] "For there is verily a disannulling of the commandment going before".[/list] [list] [3] Coffman Commentaries on the Old and New Testament,[/list] [list] [4] John MacArthur (himself an anti-tither),[/list] So many other Bible scholars know that Hebrews 7:18 was referring to the Levitical law and its system, and not an argument against tithes - even anti-tithers know this for a fact, more so because they cannot find any verse in the Bible describing tithes to be weak and useless. It remains, therefore, for those using that verse to attack tithes to please show us from Scripture HOW exactly it is weak and useless - no excuses will do the magic for them; and if they cannot show this, it is because they are bending the verse to argue what it does not argue. KunleOshob: You can't be slyly putting down others if you've been doing the very same thing you condemn. You seem to be the only anti-tither we know who forces Hebrews 7:18 to say what it does not teach, even though many anti-tithers know better. |
Re: A Question For Tithe Payers by SirJohn(m): 7:16pm On May 21, 2009 |
@pilgrim1, kindly answer the questions I raised on this thread. |
Re: A Question For Tithe Payers by pilgrim1(f): 8:08pm On May 21, 2009 |
@SirJohn, SirJohn: I'm quite honoured, thank you. SirJohn: I thought the thread said "A Question", but now it's a "few questions"? Lol, just teasing ya. SirJohn: Your inference is wrong. Verses on tithes in the Bible are not as hard-and-fast as you implied or assumed. ____________________________________ Now, your questions: SirJohn: I don't know. SirJohn: I don't know. SirJohn: I don't know. I could only speak for myself - that promise has proven true every single time in my life. SirJohn: Precisely what the Word teaches there, and which has been proven in the lives of those who have experienced it. I've complied by being brief and straight to the point. Before you assume anything not implied in my answers, it would be great if you invite me to offer explanations for what you're not clear about. Regards. |
Re: A Question For Tithe Payers by phemygee(m): 8:34pm On May 21, 2009 |
True tithers know themselves and they will explained beta to you that God never with hold good things from them, Stop doubting the power behind the scripture |
Re: A Question For Tithe Payers by Toppiano(m): 5:10pm On Jun 14, 2010 |
It is highly crazy for someone to discourage tithe payer even when you are nt paying. If you have any beef against your pastor, try to settle it or better still start your own church if there would not be tithing or contribution. Mind what you say, afterall you know the bible well enough to understand it is not biblical to pay tithe, but you dont know it is wrong to say evil against any man of God. Judge nobody is what my bible says I don't know about yours. Stop paying tithe and shut your trap, let the payers be deceived into paying God that rewards will reward everyone accordingly. Follow your heart and see where it leads you. When someone deceives/force you into paying tithe, you are only wasting your money and time. Pay happily or keep your coins. Stop mocking God and His Church |
Re: A Question For Tithe Payers by KunleOshob(m): 5:36pm On Jun 14, 2010 |
^^^ It is tithe preaching pastors that are mocking God and the church. |
Re: A Question For Tithe Payers by SirJohn(m): 6:22pm On Jun 14, 2010 |
Toppiano: I asked a simple question, if you have an answer to it then give it to me if not, stop blabbing or go some place else to display your ignorance |
Re: A Question For Tithe Payers by mypastor: 7:01pm On Jun 14, 2010 |
well, if we believe in God and His Word in the holy Bible, i believe God can not lie. |
Re: A Question For Tithe Payers by SirJohn(m): 7:17pm On Jun 14, 2010 |
So what did God say |
Re: A Question For Tithe Payers by Zikkyy(m): 8:31am On Jun 15, 2010 |
SirJohn: Good question. mypastor, What did God say |
Re: A Question For Tithe Payers by Image123(m): 9:05am On Jun 15, 2010 |
I believe in the resurrection. lol I'll tell you one of the things God said. He said "even this whole nation, bring ye all the tithes"Malachi 3. Abi no be God talk am? |
Re: A Question For Tithe Payers by AKO1(m): 9:13am On Jun 15, 2010 |
Someone told me that if you have a problem with tithing, just give 10%. Call it whatever you like. Problem solved. |
Re: A Question For Tithe Payers by Image123(m): 10:09am On Jun 15, 2010 |
A.K.O? I do believe in the resurrection! Give 10% ke, some people hia are afraid from falling from their high horse, and they've even dubbed that horse some virtuous name. |
Re: A Question For Tithe Payers by Wahala90: 3:58pm On Jul 02, 2012 |
My Questions for non-tithe payers 1. Can you say that non-tithe payers always have this ‘open heaven’ experience? 2. What can possibly be the explanation for poor non-tithe payers struggling to make a living? 3. ‘And I will rebuke the devourer for your sakes’. Does this passage mean that christians should not pay their tithe or that non-tithe payers are always exempted from seasons of lack, misfortune and unwanted loss? 4. What blessing is exclusive for the non-tithe payer which tithe payers cannot enjoy? |
Re: A Question For Tithe Payers by PastorKun(m): 7:52am On Jul 03, 2012 |
Wahala90: Very daft and irrelevant questions. the burden of proof is on those who make ridiculous claims of imaginary blessings attached to tithing. |
Re: A Question For Tithe Payers by adeshlonge: 6:05pm On Feb 27, 2013 |
my observation about this tithe issue is that the people that are collecting tithe and the managers of tithe are not following the bible. (let there be food in my house)that is the primary aim of God when he instructed the Jews to pay ten percent of their earnings. What do we have today, Pastors are acquiring private jets, schools are build with the church poor members out of the mind of the administrators and G O living expensive live without looking at the side of whoever that is in need among the congregation. t |
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