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Re: T.b. Joshua Indicted By Coroner's Inquest by mikeapollo: 9:35am On Jul 09, 2015
A biased and lying judge. He decided to rely on the CCTV footage to say that there was no panic when the aircraft flew around the church building! Why did he not use the same CCTV footage to determine the fact that the aircraft was hovering very close to the roof of the building? Why rely on the report of one agency (NCAA) and reject the other (Police)?. Does it mean that those who made submissions that indict TB Joshua were the only people that said the truth? Must everyone indict TB Joshua in order to be accepted by the judge as saying the truth?
The COREN report was based on assumptions, according to testimonies of the witness from COREN representative in court. Yet, that is the report that the magistrate relied on in his corrupted verdict. Pathetic!
The reports from COREN and Lagos State agencies all alleged that faulty foundations were the cause of the collapse, but they had to swallow their words when it was proved beyond doubt that the foundation was still solid and its integrity intact. Then they started cooking up other excuses. Now, the judge has abandoned the reason that was given by COREN and Lagos state agencies (faulty foundation), and now saying it was 'structural failure due to combination of designs and detailing errors" What are the exact design and detailing errors? He could not say! Liars!
Re: T.b. Joshua Indicted By Coroner's Inquest by joseca(m): 9:36am On Jul 09, 2015
May gud God deliever us frm dis dissaster
Re: T.b. Joshua Indicted By Coroner's Inquest by victorodiase(m): 9:38am On Jul 09, 2015
BLINGZ88:
I don't believe it, so Nigerians can be dis backwards... When did the plane drop the bomb or did d plane`s sound collapes the building?( which by the way makes it an inferior structure.. We all should look beyond religion and get justice for the dead , that is how we honor them

Watch the video with your eyes open and senses alert. The plane did not drop bomb.
He said, it looks like a controlled demolition. The video is on YouTube, I watched it over a hundred times, and I could not but agree with him.
#boko haram at work.
justice delayed, is not denial.
Re: T.b. Joshua Indicted By Coroner's Inquest by mikeapollo: 9:39am On Jul 09, 2015
mkoabiola:
Despite d outcry by d church members and celebrity,d coroner refused to b compromised

The coroner had been already compromised from day 1.
Why would a judge summon a person to appear before him on a case when the court had not even started sitting to hear the case?
That alone shows that he had made up his mind on who to indict.
His corrupted judgment was not a surprise to anyone that followed the proceedings in court
Re: T.b. Joshua Indicted By Coroner's Inquest by lolly2pops: 9:41am On Jul 09, 2015
[b]OFFICIAL STATEMENT FROM THE SYNAGOGUE, CHURCH OF ALL NATIONS IN RESPECT OF THE VERDICT GIVEN BY THE LAGOS CORONER’S COURT RELATING TO THE INCIDENT THAT HAPPENED ON SEPTEMBER 12TH 2014

The Synagogue, Church Of All Nations (SCOAN) rejects the verdict of the coroner on the grounds that it is unreasonable, one-sided and biased. The church maintains its stand that the incident was as a result of sabotage.

From the verdict given today, we would like the public to take note of the following:

There was no finding that the church engaged the services of unqualified or incompetent professionals for the construction of the building.

There was no finding that the church procured substandard materials for the construction of the building, as confirmed by officials of the Standards Organisation of Nigeria (SON) who gave evidence at the coroner and certified the materials used were all approved and of good quality.

There was evidence that the church had started processing the relevant building approval before the incident, which had been approved and assessed for payment by the appropriate government bodies.

There was no finding that connected the incident with the lack of a building permit.

There was no finding that church members prevented the statutory responders from carrying out their rescue duties.

The church disagrees most vehemently with the finding that the incident was due to structural failure.

The church considers it strange that the coroner did not refer in its verdict to the evidence of the COREN-registered structural engineer and contractor used by the church nor did it evaluate the conflicting evidence given by civil and structural engineers as to whether or not the incident was as a result of structural failure.

It was a one-sided verdict which left many issues unaddressed and questions unanswered.

The church disagrees with the findings concerning the aircraft that hovered over the six-storey building because there was evidence before the court that the incident could have been brought about by external forces such as controlled demolition or an explosion.

The verdict did not even refer to the CCTV footage which showed the 6-storey building falling in less than 4 seconds – a manner consistent with controlled or externally induced demolition – nor did it refer to the interim report and investigation by the Nigerian police force which pointed to sabotage by external forces.

The church also disagrees with the finding that foundation failure was a remote cause because that is contrary to the overwhelming expert evidence of the structural engineers invited to the coroner who eliminated foundation failure as a possible cause.

The recommendation for the investigation and prosecution of the contractors and structural engineers used by the church for criminal negligence is premature because it gives the impression the coroner has found them guilty when a coroner is not allowed in law to make any finding of civil or criminal liability against anybody.

The recommendation for the investigation of The SCOAN for not possessing the relevant building permits is unwarranted because it did not take into account the evidence that the church had started processing the relevant building approval before the incident. As a matter of fact, the amount payable for the processing had already been assessed by the appropriate government agencies.

The recommendation that statutory responders should be adequately equipped was informed by the fact that the statutory responders who carried out rescue operations in this case were ill-equipped and ill-trained, and that it was the church that mobilised human and material resources to ensure a successful rescue operation.

Finally, the coroner recognised that the conduct of the investigation of the incident was compromised by the failure of the appropriate government agencies to take necessary steps to secure and preserve the scene of the incident, which calls into question the integrity and reliability of the entire investigation.

This is a statement from Barr. Olalekan Ojo, legal counsel to The SCOAN.

We repeat: No matter how long a lie is sustained, the truth will someday prevail!
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Re: T.b. Joshua Indicted By Coroner's Inquest by texazzpete(m): 9:59am On Jul 09, 2015
Rubbish statement from SCOAN, still clinging to the 'controlled demolition' story.

lolly2pops:

The Synagogue, Church Of All Nations (SCOAN) rejects the verdict of the coroner on the grounds that it is unreasonable, one-sided and biased.

It would have been a whole lot less 'one-sided' if Prophet TB Joshua had bothered to turn up.

lolly2pops:

The church maintains its stand that the incident was as a result of sabotage.

Of course it's sabotage. An already perfectly functional building existed yet the church decided to sabotage it by adding another couple of floors without seeing proper approvals or obtaining the relevant permits that should mandate closer inspection.


lolly2pops:

We repeat: No matter how long a lie is sustained, the truth will someday prevail!

Exactly. Despite all the cheap, childish lies about 'controlled demolition' and 'radiation guns' and 'boko haram', the truth has prevailed.
Re: T.b. Joshua Indicted By Coroner's Inquest by AlchemistDean(m): 10:07am On Jul 09, 2015
victorodiase:


Jn 7:24
24 Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.
(KJV)

Who made you a judge?Be careful of what you say about a man of God. It can affect the rest of your life. Just an advice bro.
oh so if I see a thief nd' I know he's a thief..I should ignore what he is eh?
Re: T.b. Joshua Indicted By Coroner's Inquest by mikeapollo: 11:22am On Jul 09, 2015
lolly2pops:
[b]OFFICIAL STATEMENT FROM THE SYNAGOGUE, CHURCH OF ALL NATIONS IN RESPECT OF THE VERDICT GIVEN BY THE LAGOS CORONER’S COURT RELATING TO THE INCIDENT THAT HAPPENED ON SEPTEMBER 12TH 2014

The Synagogue, Church Of All Nations (SCOAN) rejects the verdict of the coroner on the grounds that it is unreasonable, one-sided and biased. The church maintains its stand that the incident was as a result of sabotage.

From the verdict given today, we would like the public to take note of the following:

There was no finding that the church engaged the services of unqualified or incompetent professionals for the construction of the building.

There was no finding that the church procured substandard materials for the construction of the building, as confirmed by officials of the Standards Organisation of Nigeria (SON) who gave evidence at the coroner and certified the materials used were all approved and of good quality.

There was evidence that the church had started processing the relevant building approval before the incident, which had been approved and assessed for payment by the appropriate government bodies.

There was no finding that connected the incident with the lack of a building permit.

There was no finding that church members prevented the statutory responders from carrying out their rescue duties.

The church disagrees most vehemently with the finding that the incident was due to structural failure.

The church considers it strange that the coroner did not refer in its verdict to the evidence of the COREN-registered structural engineer and contractor used by the church nor did it evaluate the conflicting evidence given by civil and structural engineers as to whether or not the incident was as a result of structural failure.

It was a one-sided verdict which left many issues unaddressed and questions unanswered.

The church disagrees with the findings concerning the aircraft that hovered over the six-storey building because there was evidence before the court that the incident could have been brought about by external forces such as controlled demolition or an explosion.

The verdict did not even refer to the CCTV footage which showed the 6-storey building falling in less than 4 seconds – a manner consistent with controlled or externally induced demolition – nor did it refer to the interim report and investigation by the Nigerian police force which pointed to sabotage by external forces.

The church also disagrees with the finding that foundation failure was a remote cause because that is contrary to the overwhelming expert evidence of the structural engineers invited to the coroner who eliminated foundation failure as a possible cause.

The recommendation for the investigation and prosecution of the contractors and structural engineers used by the church for criminal negligence is premature because it gives the impression the coroner has found them guilty when a coroner is not allowed in law to make any finding of civil or criminal liability against anybody.

The recommendation for the investigation of The SCOAN for not possessing the relevant building permits is unwarranted because it did not take into account the evidence that the church had started processing the relevant building approval before the incident. As a matter of fact, the amount payable for the processing had already been assessed by the appropriate government agencies.

The recommendation that statutory responders should be adequately equipped was informed by the fact that the statutory responders who carried out rescue operations in this case were ill-equipped and ill-trained, and that it was the church that mobilised human and material resources to ensure a successful rescue operation.

Finally, the coroner recognised that the conduct of the investigation of the incident was compromised by the failure of the appropriate government agencies to take necessary steps to secure and preserve the scene of the incident, which calls into question the integrity and reliability of the entire investigation.

This is a statement from Barr. Olalekan Ojo, legal counsel to The SCOAN.

We repeat: No matter how long a lie is sustained, the truth will someday prevail!
[/b]

Very good rejection of a biased verdict from a compromised coroner.

Only a biased judge would summon a person to appear before him even when the court had not started sitting to hear the case and when there had been no allegations or judicial material submitted against that person!
Re: T.b. Joshua Indicted By Coroner's Inquest by leggo: 2:35pm On Jul 09, 2015
if vibrations from a small plane can collapse a building,a lot of buildings would have collapsed where I reside.. The church built a shabby building and deserve their punishment..
Re: T.b. Joshua Indicted By Coroner's Inquest by emmatok(m): 3:39pm On Jul 09, 2015
Truckpusher:
Calling them scary is like elevating their status . They are simply zombies in human clothing.

That was how one of these young pastors became too close to my parents and I had to open a Facebook account with a girl's profile just to expose him for what he is and not the prophet my poor old parents believed him to be.

These Nigerian Christians are simply barstadizing the word of God and God must punish them accordingly else he's not a God.After all he said that he's a jealous God and I hold him by his words .

Yea the best name for them is Zombies.
Re: T.b. Joshua Indicted By Coroner's Inquest by emmatok(m): 3:43pm On Jul 09, 2015
romoruyi:
Have you not heard Jesus saying to men; we are gods @ John 10:34

His comment is only referring to how God showed is His power through moses while delivering the isrealites out of Egypt which was ruled by Pharaoh (read through the book of Exodus in the bible). And the same would happen in Nigeria; of how God will reveal the truth and all those who r against TB Joshua (the prophet) will face the wrath of God. The truth will be revealed and all we see (It has been declared by God).

The only reason for u being scared is because there is no truth in you.


Simple Bible study,
Their is a difference between GOD and gods.
All these Men of God will die like mortal humans someday.
Re: T.b. Joshua Indicted By Coroner's Inquest by otiigba1(m): 5:06pm On Jul 09, 2015
emmatok:


LOL,

Did you actually made that comment?
What part of the Bible did you get that from?
Some of you Nigerian Christian are scary.
very very scary its seems they make their own bible quotations up as they go along and how it suits them grin grin it bogles the mind
Re: T.b. Joshua Indicted By Coroner's Inquest by otiigba1(m): 5:20pm On Jul 09, 2015
Truckpusher:
You sound too emotional my friend .
The government has a right to set up a coroners inquest about what went wrong and the necessary arms of government has a right to act , may I also remind you that TB Joshua has a right to an attorney and if he is found guilty should be served accordingly and I can also agree with you that the government is playing politics with everything in our eyes because the Government is always suspected of evil all the time and not necessarily that they are evil even as sometimes they are so evil and mean.
My questions to you are :
What would be the gains politically for the Government if TB Joshua was being set up just to bring him down to his knees?

Are you suggesting that if TB Joshua did not follow the laws in erecting that structure and it came to be this way that he should be set free? Is he bigger than the law , is he now God that can't be judged?
I need your answers please.
Gbam! Look! There is no need trying to explain to this brainwashed individuals, for one they do not believe/live in democracy, so they are perhaps surprised that a so called pastor can be prosecuted too,subsequently am sure they do not even know what a coroner means
Re: T.b. Joshua Indicted By Coroner's Inquest by otiigba1(m): 5:31pm On Jul 09, 2015
vickylala239:
Devil is So strong but Not stronger than God!!

just see how people want a man of God to go to jail,just because of disaster.

Wonders So houses can't fall again or what.

Are engineers God? No matter how good an engineer is Once a building wants to fall it will fall.

Titanic that sink nko? Na illiterate build am?

is this the 1st collapsed building in Nigeria?

airplane that crash nko,both in Nigeria and abroad.

If life was about the best,Stella obasanjo culd have been alive today,because ha money was spent on the best of best.

I want to tell u Ppl,a building that wants to collapse will collapse,if u like use iron build am.

God Pass all of you guys.

If After seeing how this man of God help Ppl on tv,the poor, school fees, healing etc.and people are here praying for him to b jail.

Then if that's the case why do we pray for better Nigeria,when a better man is being condemned.

God forgive you all amen.am Not too good.but I have watched what that man has done to better the life of people.

Let Me ask,please which other pastor in Nigeria does Dat,if not buying of private jet.


I wnt to disappoint Sum of you guys.he is God anointed, So jail can't Evn near him.

Jst watch
Get some sense man! You sounds so Gullible! Its unbelievable! It will be so easy to scam you undecided God help you, you don't cross path with me i will be thrilled to take advantage of your naivety
Re: T.b. Joshua Indicted By Coroner's Inquest by BLINGZ88: 8:54pm On Jul 09, 2015
victorodiase:


Watch the video with your eyes open and senses alert. The plane did not drop bomb.
He said, it looks like a controlled demolition. The video is on YouTube, I watched it over a hundred times, and I could not but agree with him.
#boko haram at work.
justice delayed, is not denial.
you make Nigerians look foolish before foreigners... God will vindicate him if he is innocent but the law most take it course. #respect constituted authority. It is even in the bible
Re: T.b. Joshua Indicted By Coroner's Inquest by emmatok(m): 10:45pm On Jul 10, 2015
otiigba1:
very very scary its seems they make their own bible quotations up as they go along and how it suits them grin grin it bogles the mind
Don't mind them grin
Re: T.b. Joshua Indicted By Coroner's Inquest by nwakaibeya1: 1:10am On Jul 11, 2015
traders and CHAMELEONS in the house of God ,using the name of God to make merchandise of their bellies and many are like this and all over the place IN NIGERIA and pretending to be good?DO HUMAN BEIGNS REALLY LIKE TO HEAR THE TRUTH?::::: authority has come back to the earth,BEHOLD we are not begging human beigns to accept our truth and revelation and that is why we have told them,this is power as of old , that go and sin no more power of REAL Jesus Christ which is unbelievable to human beigns , so cant you see that we are wiser than you that criticize us?dont forget this that many are pretenders INFACT THEY are pretenders who will rather die that accept defeat just like Pharoah of bible time who preferred to sink in the ocean than accept defeat from moses even though pharoah knew the truth just like may evil people who read us knows our truth and revelation and many of his , pharoahs descendants are still in existence today so you that is ignorant and blind spiritually will not know but we know by the reason of the light and the mantle and the power that be and that is why we reveal the HIDDEN mystery OF HUMANBEIGNS ?you that think that you are wise?many human beigns like to stand at the gate of heaven ,enter they will never enter ,also allow others to enter they will never allow others to enter so you must think humanbeigns:we are speaking by the power that is unbelievable to human beigns *this is typical of all our truth and revelation and explanations about the night people ,the rich people and evil marine and occult world and those whom human beings believe in them so much that they were called by God or where made rich by God who are in existence today as being powerful and others as the descendants of the prophets and priests referred to here in the bible @#### Jeremiah 5,25, Your wrongdoings have kept God away;your sins have deprived you of good and peace and night sleep.26 “Among my people are the wicked,who lie in wait like men who snare birds and like those who set traps to catch people.27 Like cages full of birds,their houses are full of deceit;they have become rich and powerful,28 and have grown fat and sleek.Their evil deeds have no limit; they do not seek Gods justice and secular.They do not promote the case of the fatherless;they do not defend the just cause of the poor even when they do its for their own selfish reason unknowingly to the those benefiting from them?.29 Should I not punish them for this?”declares the Lord.“Should I not avenge myself.on such a nation as this?30 “A horrible and shocking thing has happened in the land,31 The prophets prophesy lies, the priests rule by their own authority,and my people love it this way.But what will you do in the end?is it not those we call CHAMELEONS Let this phrase as follows sink in you and we repeat that we keep telling you human beigns about them that are being referred to in those passages by God himself hence judgement has come again or cant you see the judgment is all over the place even though the worst judgement is happening spiritually now but because those being judged are pretenders we repeat who will rather die that accept defeat just like Pharoah of bible time who preferred to sink in the ocean than accept defeat from moses even though pharoah knew the truth just like may evil people who read us knows our truth and revelation and many of his pharoahs descendants are still in existence today so you that is ignorant and blind spiritually will not know but we know by the reason of the light and the mantle and the power that be and that is why we reveal the mystery ?you that think that you are wise?this is words of authority and power from real Jesus CHRIST, that we declare and they are spirits,who can battle with the God of justice,he that made the spiritual laws?we are not begging human beigns to accept the truth and thats why we have told them this is power as of Jesus Christ which is unbelievable to human beigns so cant you see that we are wiser than you that criticize us BUT AS USUAL ONLY TIME WILL TELL WHO IS GENUINE OR NOT?DO NOT SAY YOU WHERE NOT TOLD THAT KINGDOM OF GOD OF JUSTICE HAS COME AND JUDGEMENT HAS COME BACK TO THE EARTH:YOU ARE PERMITTED TO INVESTIGATE BUT HOW WOULD YOU INVESTIGATE WHEN YOU ARE SPIRITUALLY BLIND?JEREMIAH 5,21-22
Re: T.b. Joshua Indicted By Coroner's Inquest by flofields(f): 8:45pm On Jul 24, 2015
Infohelp:

This prophet has a name which is TB Joshua. If all you can do is try making a joke out of men of God then you life is doomed. I'm sure your life is upside down right now. As if your do what he does every day

False prophet.
Unlike you, I am very well off.
Re: T.b. Joshua Indicted By Coroner's Inquest by BERNIMOORE: 11:30pm On Jul 24, 2015
Temi tope Balogun Joshua from Arigidi Akoko ondo state Now has murdered more than 100 people with compromised building structure, can he be a man of God? with all this crime? lets read what apostle peter wrote about what a man of should not be found wanting and said he is being persecuted; lets read;

1 Peter 4:14-16

If you are insulted because of the name of Christ, you are blessed, for the Spirit of glory and of God rests on you. 15 [size=14pt]If you suffer, it should not be as a murderer or thief or any other kind of criminal, or even as a meddler.[/size]

Temi tope Balogun Joshua is found wanting!
Re: T.b. Joshua Indicted By Coroner's Inquest by Weah96: 1:31am On Jul 25, 2015
Sabotage? Can you imagine the balls on this man? The self proclaimed prophet who couldn't foresee the impending deaths of one hundred people IN CHURCH, is now claiming that their deaths occurred as a result of sabotage. I don't know which one is worse, the fact that the deaths weren't revealed to him, or the sabotage wasn't revealed? Ha-ha-ha. He's busy curing HIV with his tongue, while a pikin is sabotaging the church in which he's healing people.

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