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| Re: Muslims What Actualy Convince You That Realy Muhammed Is Prophet Of God? by truthman2013: 1:56pm On Aug 18, 2015 |
malvisguy212: But you initially claimed that all prophets are descendant of Isaac, how come Balaam was a gentile? I was only trying to explained to you what the Jews reffere soothsayer as a prophet. And I ask, why would God spirit descend on a soothsayer despite Yahweh warning again soothsayer Leviticus 19:31  The transfeguration the baptism of Jesus and the encounter between Moses elijah and enoch record Jesus encounter with the father, …Citation needed please. infacte the bible say Jesus exist before the world began and He shere the glory together with God. Yahweh lied then in Isaiah 48:11 ....and I will not share my glory with anyone. Muhammed did not here directly from allah, if he does you should provide evidence, infacte who are the witnesses of his alleged calling ? Read up on the miracle of Al-Isra & Al- Miraj. ..truthman 2 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: Muslims What Actualy Convince You That Realy Muhammed Is Prophet Of God? by malvisguy212: 2:51pm On Aug 18, 2015 |
truthman2013:okay, listen. Balaam was a soothsayer, a soothsayer is also known as a prophet, God never called him his prophet but the reason the bible called him prophet is because a soothsayer is also known as a prophet, do you think a dumb donkey can see an angel but God prophet cannot see it ? Yes, he here from God and God gave him true prophecy,the reason is because God love him: Deutoronumy23:5 Nevertheless the LORD thy God would not hearken unto Balaam; but the LORD thy God turned the curse into a blessing unto thee, because the LORD thy God LOVED thee. The reason why balaam here from God is because balaam was about to curse the children of isreal but because God loved him instead of killing him , he change his mind. Here what balaam say in number: Number 22:38 And Balaam said unto Balak, Lo, I am come unto thee: have I now any power at all to say any thing? the word that God putteth in my mouth, that shall I speak. God put his word on his mouth so He would not curse isreal. Read matthew 17 here: https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2017 Jesus is God which dwell in human form, the context of isaiah 48 was referring to man, offcorse God is not a man that he should lie, and God cannot shere His glory with human, but Jesus is a supreme being who existed before the world began. Muhammed night journey was even considered a miracle? I guess if satan revealed himself to you, you will call it a miracle. Listen! Al-Isra & Al- Miraj is a vision, compear to the transfiguration where the 3 disciples Here God speak, it is not a vision, the 3 disciples bear witness of this event, but the night journey was a vision which NO one bear witness of this event, further more, my question does not say vision, I say direct communication with Allah, did muhammed had this ? |
| Re: Muslims What Actualy Convince You That Realy Muhammed Is Prophet Of God? by malvisguy212: 3:01pm On Aug 18, 2015 |
The night journey is not a believeable story, is a pure lie. "Exalted is He who took His Servant by night from al-Masjid al-Haram to al- Masjid al-Aqsa, whose surroundings We have blessed, to show him of Our signs. Indeed, He is the Hearing, the Seeing." - Quran 17:1 The Muslim army conquered Jerusalem in 637 AD and the al-Aqsa mosque was completed in 705 AD. The problem with the above passage in the Quran is that Muhammad died in 632 AD, which was 5years before the Muslim army reached Jerusalem and 73 years before the al- Aqsa mosque was built. 1 Like |
| Re: Muslims What Actualy Convince You That Realy Muhammed Is Prophet Of God? by basilico: 3:51pm On Aug 18, 2015 |
malvisguy212: Al Aqsa means furthest mosque. by the time he had his night journey al aqsa was less than 60 miles from mecca. Later day caliph Ali Bakr is the one who changed Al Aqsa to Jerusalem. Which appears nowhere in the quran. Trust Muslims to twist words and meanings. left hand is satanic where in this context Satan means evil. |
| Re: Muslims What Actualy Convince You That Realy Muhammed Is Prophet Of God? by Demmzy15(m): 4:31pm On Aug 18, 2015 |
[s] malvisguy212: basilico:[/s] You're still recycling this BS. You created a thread in Islam For Muslims and you were beaten silly, the answer to your nonsense is here https://www.nairaland.com/2408973/explanation-wanted/2 1 Like |
| Re: Muslims What Actualy Convince You That Realy Muhammed Is Prophet Of God? by Annunaki(m): 4:45pm On Aug 18, 2015 |
malvisguy212: Very good observation, islam is full of lies. |
| Re: Muslims What Actualy Convince You That Realy Muhammed Is Prophet Of God? by Weah96: 5:15pm On Aug 18, 2015 |
malvisguy212: This your own God is racist like a MF. All the prophets are Jews? Haven't you heard all of the sayings concerning Jews, money, and telling lies? Jews is another word for "telling lies." 1 Like |
| Re: Muslims What Actualy Convince You That Realy Muhammed Is Prophet Of God? by Lukay99: 10:18pm On Aug 18, 2015 |
malvisguy212: What most our Christians brothers and sisters failed to understand about Islam is that Islam as a religion started way before Prophet Muhammad(saw) the Arabic word ISLAM simply means fully submission to the rule of God, Right from day one of the creation of this world what all Prophets have been preaching to the people is to always follow the rules of almighty God(i.e worship of the Creator not the creations) all Prophets starting from Adam have been preaching the same thing fully submission to the rule of God which meaning Islam in Arabic, even Jesus never preached Christianity or named his religion Christianity neither did Mose named his religion a Jewish religion. What Islam teaches us is that God have always given mankind just one religion but people with time always change the religion and give it a new name what you also failed to understand is that al-Masjid al-Aqsa had been around way before Prophet Muhammad(saw). The patriarch of all the believers of Allah (God), i.e. Jews, Christians, and Muslims is Prophet Ibrahim (Abraham, PBUH). He built the Kaba in Makkah with his firstborn son Ismael (PBUH). This was an order from Allah (SWT) that Ibrahim and Ismael (PBUT) construct this Holy House of Allah (SWT) as a place of worship for all the believers on earth. Ismael (PBUH) was 17 at the time he and his father built the Kaba. Prophet Muhammad (PB UH), a descendent of the Prophet Ismael (PBUH), would come nearly 2,500 years after Kaba was built and repurify it as a holy place of worship according to the teachings of the Prophet Ibrahim (PBUH). As stated in the Torah and in the Holy Quran "all the generations will be blessed through I brahim (PBUH)" (Genesis 12 and 18 Holy Bible, Chp 2 Verses 123-141 Holy Quran). In Jerusalem, Prophet Ibrahim (PBUH) also established a place of worship. This place would later be known as The House Of Allah (God), or Beteyel. Forty years after the construction of Kaba, Prophet Ibrahim expanded this place of worship. Isaac (PBUH), Prophet Ibrahim's younger son, worshipped in Beteyel, but also made journeys to Kaba in Makkah for Hajj (Pilgrimage) as did Ibrahim (PBUH). Jacob (PBUH) the second son of Isaac (PBUH), extended Beteyel as a place of worship for all the believers of Allah (God) in the region. The natives of the land, the Palestinians, believers in the teachings of the Prophet Ibrahim (PBUH), also worshipped in Beteyel or The House Of Allah (God). Ibrahim (PBUH), referred to Beteyel as "Masjid Al-Aqsa", which means the farthest place of worship of the One God. Prophet Ibrahim (PBUH), was stating that Masjid Al-Aqsa was the farthest place of worship west of Kaba in Makkah. Some years later, Prophet Joseph (PBUH), the son of Jacob (PBUH) attained a high position of power in Egypt, he sent for all of his family to come live with him in Egypt away from the poverty of Palestine. There were 33 in all, Jacob (PBUH), his children and his grandchildren (Genesis 46 in the Torah). Because there was no one left from Jacob's (PBUH) tribe to care for Beteyel, Jacob (PBUH), intrusted care of Beteyel or Masjid Al-Aqsa to the natives of the area, the Palestinians. This was acceptable due to the fact that the natives were also followers of the Patriarch, the Prophet Ibrahim (PBUH). The Israelites remained in Egypt for four hundred years as slaves to the Egyptians with no connection to Palestine, the land from which they immigrated (Genesis 15 Verse 13-17). This choice was not forced on them, they simply chose to leave Palestine for the sake of the wealth and riches in Egypt. In the time of Prophet Moses (PBUH), the Israelites were still slaves to the Egyptians. Allah (God) ordered Moses (PBUH), after freeing the Israelites from bondage, to lead them to Palestine. The Israelites rejected this order from Allah (God), and preferred to live in the desert of Sinai, rather than to sacrifice themselves for the sake of Allah (God). They believed this land belonged to the Palestinians, the natives of the area. For fourty years, the Israelites wandered in the desert of Sinai. A new generation was born, and from it came forth Prophet David (PBUH), he would lead this generation of believers to Palestine. Prophet David (PBUH) established his kingdom in part of Palestine, and controlled Jerusalem. His son, Prophet Soloman (King Solomon) (PBUH) rebuilt Masjid Al-Aqsa with the help of the natives, and next to it he built the ruler's palace. After Prophet Solomon's death, his two sons divided his kingdom amongst themselves. Each son established his own kingdom and each had its own capital. From both of these kingdoms, Allah (God) raised prophets. According to Jewish history, these kingdoms existed for nearly two hundred years. In 586 B.C., King Je-hoia-chin of Jerusalem, saw that he might lose his kingdom. He was the last Jewish king who tried to resist the Babylonians in Jerusalem. In his struggle, his kingdom was surrounded by the Babylonians who cut off supplies from the outside world. When the inhabitants of Jerusalem ran out of food and water, the king made a tunnel to enable his soldiers to escape and retrieve supplies from the outside world. Part of the tunnel collapsed, the resistance led by King Je-hoia-chin was defeated, and the Babylonians took over Jerusalem. The tunnel used by King Je-hoia-chin, is the same tunnel being excavated today in Jerusalem. After the Babylonians conquered Jerusalem, they took its inhabitants as slaves to Babylon. The Babylonian King Nebuchadnezzar destroyed what King Solomon had built in Jerusalem (Kings 2 Chapters 24 and 25 of the Bible). According to the word of God in the Torah, the Israelites were made to be slaves in both the Nile and in the Euphrates. After seventy years of slavery in Babylon, King Cyrus of Persea gave the Israelites their freedom. At that time very few of the Israelites returned to Palestine. These few Israelites worshipped only in The House Of Allah. For generations, the Israelites took care of Beteyel or Masjid Al-Aqsa. During the period when the Roman Empire was in constant battle with the Persean Empire, the Israelites aided the Perseans, and benefited when the Perseans had control of Jerusalem. Because the Israelites supported the Persean Empire as spies and in other ways, the Romans treated them as enemies of the Roman Empire. In 70 A.D., the Romans destroyed (burned) Beteyel, and converted it into a place of Roman idol worship (Jupitor,etc.). In 315 A.D., when the Roman Emperor Constantine converted to Christianity, the Romans had no regard for Beteyel. It became a place were the inhabitants of Jerusalem, including the Jews threw their garbage. The Jews no longer considered Beteyel a Holy Shrine. The Persean Empire defeated the Romans in 614 A.D., the Jews were now able to worship where they wished, but chose not to worship in Beteyel or Masjid Al-Aqsa. The Perseans controlled Jerusalem until 624 A.D. The Jews, who were in a position of power during this period, tortured the Arab Christians. Jerusalem was in need of a just ruler. Both the Christians and the Jews had suffered under different empires, and both knew that the Holy Scriptures promised the coming of a ruler to save them from all this unjust torture and aggression. The Israelites were awaiting the coming of the Messiah, who would be king and ruler, and would defeat all the evil empires, as promised by Allah (God). The only Prophet in history to have accomplished this task, was Prophet Muhammad (PBUH). Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) and his followers defeated all the empires of the time, establishing the Kingdom Of God (Islamic State) throughout the region. This included Jerusalem as promised by Allah to the Muslims (Daniel 2 Verse 44 and Mathew 21 Verse 43). The Israelites had tried to fulfill this prophecy in 165 B.C., under the leadership of Judah Makabi. Within three years, he was defeated by the Romans, who regained complete control of Jerusalem. Prophet Jesus (PBUH), was also unable to accomplish this task mentioned in the Holy Scriptures. It was the Prophet from Arabia, Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) who fulfilled this prophecy. In 621 A.D., the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) ascended to the heavens in the night known as Israa and Mirag to the Muslims (Malachi 3 Verse 1-14). In that night, Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) led all the Prophets of Allah (PBUT) in prayer in the Holy Mosque (Masjid Al-Aqsa). For this reason, Masjid Al-Aqsa is a holy place of worship for the Muslims, along with Kaba in Makkah and The Prophet's (PBUH) Mosque in Medina. These are the three most important Mosques to the Muslims. In 637 A.D., the Christian leader of Jerusalem, Snaifors, realized through the holy Scriptures (Zeckariah 9 Verses 9 and 10), that the second leader of the Islamic State, Umar ibn Al-Khatab, fits the description of the one who would open Jerusalem and free it from the evil empires. Snaifors surrendered peacefully. Umar ibn Al-Khatab and the Muslims, after securing Jerusalem, again established Masjid Al-Aqsa as a holy place of worship. Both the Christians and the Jews were pleased with the arrival of Umar and the Muslims, and with the just rule under the Islamic State. In the eleventh century, the European Christians in the crusades, tortured the Jews and the Muslims. They burned the Jews in the their Temples and they burned the Muslims in Masjid Al-Aqsa. The European Christians even tortured the Arab Christians and destroyed their churches. The Jews fled to Indulis (Spain), to receive protection under Islamic rule or a Muslim society. In 1189 A.D., the leader of the Muslim army, Salah Aldeen Al-Ayobi expelled the European Christians from Jerusalem, and returned Jerusalem to Islamic rule. The Christian, Jews, and Muslims lived in harmony under Islamic rule. 1 Like 1 Share |
| Re: Muslims What Actualy Convince You That Realy Muhammed Is Prophet Of God? by adewalker(m): 3:18am On Aug 19, 2015 |
basilico:. U see this ur problem u ask for miracles,but I ask u back this,is miracles the criterion for true righteousness? The answer is absolute no,who said so?,jesus said in matt chapter 24,for many false prophets with great miracles and signs,if possible to deceive the very elect,that is this false prophet can decieve even the most learned person,so miracles is not a criterion for righteousness according to jesus,so they asked him,how can we know the real ones so he said by their fruit ye shall know them,u see the hindus perform miracles,the babalawos perform miracles,but the pagan in the time of mohammad ws also asking for miracles,but God already gave us a miracle His direct words unchanged...al quran,that is the miracle of miracles and has stood the test of man and science for 1400 years 1 Like |
| Re: Muslims What Actualy Convince You That Realy Muhammed Is Prophet Of God? by Annunaki(m): 8:15am On Aug 19, 2015 |
adewalker: And clearly the fruits of mohamed(terrorism, paedophilia, sex slave raping, stealing, killing, incest. Philandering) are evil and that makes him a false prophet. That said the quoran is the most poorly written sick piece of literature on the surface of this earth. It is full of errors, contradictions and it inspires hatred. Another evidence that mohamed is a monumental fraud. |
| Re: Muslims What Actualy Convince You That Realy Muhammed Is Prophet Of God? by basilico: 8:22am On Aug 19, 2015 |
adewalker: By their fruits .. Muhammads fruits were many - Murder, rape, robbery, forced conversion .. the list is endless. Yet he is holy 1 Like |
| Re: Muslims What Actualy Convince You That Realy Muhammed Is Prophet Of God? by parisbookaddict(f): 8:36am On Aug 19, 2015 |
truthman2013: Fraudster, of course u can't explain yourself. So u post links to sites that lie far beTter than you. |
| Re: Muslims What Actualy Convince You That Realy Muhammed Is Prophet Of God? by mustymatic(m): 10:21am On Aug 19, 2015 |
malvisguy212:But Christianity was mentioned the Bible itself was not mentioned. who is the comforter? |
| Re: Muslims What Actualy Convince You That Realy Muhammed Is Prophet Of God? by Annunaki(m): 12:07pm On Aug 19, 2015 |
mustymatic: The man who started islamic terrorism and force conversion to islam can NEVER be a comforter. Mohamed brought misery to thousands and till this day his true followers continue to make millions miserable through the acts of terrorism mohamed instructed his followers to carry out. |
| Re: Muslims What Actualy Convince You That Realy Muhammed Is Prophet Of God? by adewalker(m): 2:52pm On Aug 19, 2015 |
Annunaki:. I tot this is a debate,anyways,mentions the contradictions in the quran,give me one contradiction,we all know the many contradictions in the bible,that will take a whole new thread to list,bt give me one contradiction in the quran,u can't,where is the error in the quran,all this things u mentioned above takes place more in any christian country than muslim country,compare the rape in US or europe to any arab country,where have u ever heard incest in muslim word,I can give a lot more in ur bible where incest take place,seems u more suited for a boxing fight than a proper debate,when u are ready to have u can make up a reasonable thread,then I'll reply u |
| Re: Muslims What Actualy Convince You That Realy Muhammed Is Prophet Of God? by Annunaki(m): 4:13pm On Aug 19, 2015 |
adewalker: https://www.nairaland.com/2511448/contradictions-quran |
| Re: Muslims What Actualy Convince You That Realy Muhammed Is Prophet Of God? by mustymatic(m): 4:21pm On Aug 19, 2015 |
Annunaki:The point is there was no mention of Christianity in the Bible. |
| Re: Muslims What Actualy Convince You That Realy Muhammed Is Prophet Of God? by adewalker(m): 5:03pm On Aug 19, 2015 |
Annunaki:. When the trumpet will blow one blast,I think this is simple english,it didn't say the only blast,it said one blast meaning the first blast,the quran was revealed in arabic,thera are some words,u can only find the nearest in meaning to english,it doesn't say the only blast it said one blast meaning the first blast...now the verse u quoted said the jews and the christians who belived in allah"this verse was directed to tell people that whoeever of the jews that died following the message of prophets will be rewarded by allah,so they must belive in moses,and after moses died,jesus came the must follow him,so for the christians that followed the teachings of jesus also,Allah will reward them,and what did moses and jesus preched...islam...believe in one word,the first commandment moses gave was "hear o isreal ur God our lord is one"deut 6:4,thousands of years later jesus preached the same message,the pharises came to ask him,jesus what's the first commandment of all,so jesus says"hear o isreal ur God our lord is one"mrk 12;29,so they are preaching the same thing so if u believe in jesus and follow his monotheism message,then allah rewards u,so u can follow one and reject one,as one prophet goes another came,so u must accept all the prophet dt allah sent,600 years after jesus,prophet mohammad came,so some missionaries asked him,what's ur first commandment,so allah reveals to him"say he is allah,the one and only..."U can see moses,jesus,mohammad all saying the same thing,none of the prophet could ever say they are God,or that their followers should worship them,never could jesus have said so,rather he's always saying my father is greater than all,I by myself can do nothing..he was always attributing all praises to Allah,where did jesus say worship me,no where in ur bible,I challenge u to produce it to me if u indeed follow jesus christ,give me a verse |
| Re: Muslims What Actualy Convince You That Realy Muhammed Is Prophet Of God? by Annunaki(m): 5:26pm On Aug 19, 2015 |
mustymatic: But christians is mentioned in the bible that said it is not the name of the religion that matters but the teachings in it. Christianity is based on the glorious teachings of christ period. Same way islam is based on the teachings of mohamed and we all see the hatred and terrorism mohamed's teachings have inspired from his life time till this very day. |
| Re: Muslims What Actualy Convince You That Realy Muhammed Is Prophet Of God? by Annunaki(m): 6:56am On Aug 20, 2015 |
adewalker: You are not making sense at all |
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