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Re: Formula 1 Grandprix 2009 by FBS: 6:54am On Apr 17, 2009 |
Revitalised Hamilton sets F1 pace The race is on. . . |
Re: Formula 1 Grandprix 2009 by nazzyon(m): 7:04am On Apr 17, 2009 |
See this times? Told you this was going to happen. By the time Mclaren and Ferrari finishes the tweak Brawn will be nowhere near their cars. Friday free practice (1) - Chinese Grand Prix. 1. Lewis Hamilton Britain McLaren-Mercedes 1m 37.334s DIFFUSER - IN 2. Jenson Button Britain Brawn-Mercedes 1m 37.450s 3. Rubens Barrichello Brazil Brawn-Mercedes 1m 37.566s 4. Heikki Kovalainen Finland McLaren-Mercedes 1m 37.672s 5. Mark Webber Australia Red Bull-Renault 1m 37.752s 6. Jarno Trulli Italy Toyota-Toyota 1m 37.764s 7. Nico Rosberg Germany Williams-Toyota 1m 37.860s 8. Timo Glock Germany Toyota-Toyota 1m 37.894s 9. Fernando Alonso Spain Renault-Renault 1m 38.089s 10. Sebastien Bourdais France Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1m 38.195s 11. Kimi Raikkonen Finland Ferrari-Ferrari 1m 38.223s 12. Sebastian Vettel Germany Red Bull-Renault 1m 38.274s 13. Sebastien Buemi Switzerland Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1m 38.307s 14. Adrian Sutil Germany Force India-Mercedes 1m 38.319s 15. Felipe Massa Brazil Ferrari-Ferrari 1m 38.418s 16. Nick Heidfeld Germany BMW Sauber 1m 38.456s 17. Giancarlo Fisichella Italy Force India-Mercedes 1m 38.460s 18. Robert Kubica Poland BMW Sauber 1m 38.463s 19. Kazuki Nakajima Japan Williams-Toyota 1m 38.730s 20. Nelson Piquet Jr Brazil Renault-Renault 1m 38.825s Mclaren's, Ferrari's and other cars are not perfect yet. |
Re: Formula 1 Grandprix 2009 by nazzyon(m): 8:40am On Apr 17, 2009 |
Friday free practice (2) - Chinese Grand Prix. P. Driver Team Time Stops 1 Jenson Button Brawn 2 Nico Rosberg Williams 3 Rubens Barrichello Brawn 4 Sebastian Vettel Red Bull 5 Mark Webber Red Bull 6 Jarno Trulli Toyota 7 Kazuki Nakajima Williams 8 Timo Glock Toyota 9 Heikki Kovalainen McLaren 10 Sebastien Bourdais Toro Rosso 11 Adrian Sutil Force India 12 Felipe Massa Ferrari 13 Lewis Hamilton McLaren 14 Kimi Räikkönen Ferrari 15 Sebastien Buemi Toro Rosso 16 Nelson Piquet Renault 17 Robert Kubica BMW 18 Nick Heidfeld BMW 19 Fernando Alonso Renault 20 Giancarlo Fisichella Force India The results we have here is different from the one we have earlier today. Reason is that Mclaren & Ferrari & BMW are doing some tests on their cars. Mclaren testing front wing, practiced with a Hard tyre. Most of the others who set fastest time practiced with the softer tyre. See u tomorrow. |
Re: Formula 1 Grandprix 2009 by FBS: 11:59am On Apr 17, 2009 |
bring the heat!!! |
Re: Formula 1 Grandprix 2009 by nazzyon(m): 8:55am On Apr 18, 2009 |
At the qualifying race for China GP Mclaren, Ferrari, & Renault made it to Q3 but Alonso surprised everyone in his Renault qualifying second on the Grid. Red Bull Driver Vettel denied Jenson Button a spot on pole. Ferrari Massa lost his touch and dropped in Q2 but his Kimi made it to Q3. Heiki messed up big time dropped in Q2 but Hamilton managed a 9th spot on the grid. That is a good new for Mclaren fans. Note: Most of the Drivers who set the fastest time in Q3 may need to spend more time tomorrow to re-fuel when they pit. Qualifying live standing P. Driver Team Time 1 Sebastian Vettel Red Bull 1:36.184 2 Fernando Alonso Renault 0:00.406 3 Mark Webber Red Bull 0:00.491 4 Rubens Barrichello Brawn 0:00.518 5 Jenson Button Brawn 0:00.557 6 Jarno Trulli Toyota 0:00.860 7 Nico Rosberg Williams 0:01.422 8 Kimi Räikkönen Ferrari 0:02.114 9 Lewis Hamilton McLaren 0:02.620 10 Sebastien Buemi Toro Rosso 0:03.346 11 Nick Heidfeld BMW 0:00.000 12 Heikki Kovalainen McLaren 0:00.057 13 Felipe Massa Ferrari 0:00.058 14 Timo Glock Toyota 0:00.091 15 Kazuki Nakajima Williams 0:00.218 16 Sebastien Bourdais Toro Rosso 0:00.931 17 Nelson Piquet Renault 0:00.933 18 Robert Kubica BMW 0:00.991 19 Adrian Sutil Force India 0:01.694 20 Giancarlo Fisichella Force India 0:01.697 |
Re: Formula 1 Grandprix 2009 by FBS: 8:04pm On Apr 18, 2009 |
This season sef? na wa ooo! |
Re: Formula 1 Grandprix 2009 by nazzyon(m): 8:23pm On Apr 19, 2009 |
CHINA RACE LIVE STANDING P. Driver Team Time 1 Sebastian Vettel Red Bull 1:57:43.485 RACE WINNER (CHINA) 2 Mark Webber Red Bull 10.970 3 Jenson Button Brawn 44.975 4 Rubens Barrichello Brawn 1:03.704 5 Heikki Kovalainen McLaren 1:05.102 6 Lewis Hamilton McLaren 1:11.866 7 Timo Glock Toyota 1:14.476 8 Sebastien Buemi Toro Rosso 1:16.439 9 Fernando Alonso Renault 1:24.309 10 Kimi Räikkönen Ferrari 1:31.750 11 Sebastien Bourdais Toro Rosso 1:34.156 12 Nick Heidfeld BMW 1:35.834 13 Robert Kubica BMW 1:46.853 14 Giancarlo Fisichella Force India at 1 lap 15 Nico Rosberg Williams at 1 lap 16 Nelson Piquet Renault at 2 laps 17 Adrian Sutil Force India out 18 Kazuki Nakajima Williams out 19 Felipe Massa Ferrari out 20 Jarno Trulli Toyota out At the end of today's race in China (WET),we have another champion (RED BULL: Sebastien Vettel) and in fact it ended RED BULL 1 & 2. An improvement for Mclaren, Heiki 5th and Hamilton 6th finish on the Grid. It would have been a better race but Hamilton made mistakes thrice in the wet. Kovaleinen went from no point in 2 races to 4 points in 5th position in China. VETTEL became the first to give RED BULL team its first win in Formula One just like he did for the Toro Rosso, and as for Mark Webber's China second place is his biggest achievement ever in Formula One . Another bad news for Ferrari, Kimi Raikonen finished in 10th place on the grid while Felipe Massa developed a fault (Electrical) I think. Fernando Alonso Renault Diffuser worked quite well in qualifying but due to the WET condition of the track he finished 9th on the Grid. [size=30pt][center]SEE YOU IN BAHRAIN[/center][/size] |
Re: Formula 1 Grandprix 2009 by coolguyz(m): 11:48am On Apr 20, 2009 |
F1 this season is just goona be spectacular. ferarri dd small twicking wt the car and its faster and more stable as confirmed by alonso, sure the season would rily heat up soon wen dey all get their bearings right. thank God the most races won rule to determine season champion was backed dwn else some gritty moments will witness by time 2 more races are concluded would be missing, @nazzyon help wt current points standing to complete the work u'v started. still bliv more surprises are lined dis season. |
Re: Formula 1 Grandprix 2009 by nazzyon(m): 8:04pm On Apr 20, 2009 |
DRIVER'S POINT AND POSITION AFTER 3 RACES Pos Driver Total 1 Jenson Button (Brawn) 21 2 Rubens Barrichello (Brawn) 15 3 Sebastian Vettel (Red Bull) 10 4 Timo Glock (Toyota) 10 5 Mark Webber (Red Bull) 9.5 6 Jarno Trulli (Toyota) 8.5 7 Heikki Kovalainen (McLaren) 4 8 Nick Heidfeld (BMW-Sauber) 4 9 Fernando Alonso (Renault) 4 10 Lewis Hamilton (McLaren) 4 11 Nico Rosberg (Williams) 3.5 12 Sebastien Buemi (Toro Rosso) 3 13 Sebastien Bourdais (Toro Rosso) 1 14 Adrian Sutil (Force India) 0 15 Felipe Massa (Ferrari) 0 16 Giancarlo Fisichella (Force India) 0 17 Kazuki Nakajima (Williams) 0 18 Kimi Räikkönen (Ferrari) 0 19 Nelson Piquet (Renault) 0 20 Robert Kubica (BMW-Sauber) 0 coolguyz: There are more surprises to come because teams like Williams, BMW, Mclaren, Toro Rosso, Renault and RED BULL are beginning to get things right in their cars. But Ferrari seems to be having problems at the moment; there is little to say for now. Note: Fernando Alonso is not Ferrari's Driver. He Drives for Renault. |
Re: Formula 1 Grandprix 2009 by coolguyz(m): 8:16am On Apr 21, 2009 |
thanx guy, my goof! by the way, wat's up wt mclauren's case over the misrepresentatn of facts. thot d case is meant for this april? any updates by F1? hope we wont see our dear hamilton get sacrificed? |
Re: Formula 1 Grandprix 2009 by FBS: 8:35am On Apr 21, 2009 |
red bull deserved the win. If LH and McL dont wake up by the next race then they can forget about the title. |
Re: Formula 1 Grandprix 2009 by nazzyon(m): 11:45am On Apr 22, 2009 |
Hamilton & McLaren will face the FIA, on April 29 to answer charges of breaking the international sporting code. Lets hope Mclaren remain in Formula 1 and not suspended. If Mclaren's purnishment is too much to bare they may decide to quit Formula One just Porsche couple years ago. And the more Manufacturers leave the worse it gets for formula One. It is not good for Formula One History New Teams are not joining Formula One. I know most people will say Brawn GP is a new team but those guys are just a sick Honda having a facelift. |
Re: Formula 1 Grandprix 2009 by nazzyon(m): 4:04pm On Apr 23, 2009 |
NEW TEAM IN 2010 A new formula One Team will join Formula One 2010 season. Its name is yet to be announced but it is believed that its backbone will be the Aston Martin |
Re: Formula 1 Grandprix 2009 by A40(m): 4:37pm On Apr 23, 2009 |
I don't know what is wrong with Massa and Raikonnen surely the Ferrari car cannot be that bad even though it looks slower than last year These crazy rules are not making F1 fun anymore i miss the good old days of Schumacher,Hill,Hakkinen,Villeneuve,Prost and Senna where championships where won on drivers skills and ability and not some funny rules or misinterpretation of facts |
Re: Formula 1 Grandprix 2009 by nazzyon(m): 8:23pm On Apr 23, 2009 |
If not for the rules Hamilton would have won in his first year in Formula One, the same rule almost cost him the trophy last season. |
Re: Formula 1 Grandprix 2009 by FBS: 7:58am On Apr 24, 2009 |
the rules are getting even crazier. Not sure I would be watching all the races. These stewards just need to see a doctor and examine their heads. I think in any sport, the higher your points, the higher your position, right? in F1 its different. it sucks. |
Re: Formula 1 Grandprix 2009 by FBS: 10:29am On Apr 24, 2009 |
Lewis Hamilton's testing season received a timely boost as he clocked the quickest lap of the first practice session in his fast-improving McLaren. The world champion, just 10th in this year's drivers' championship, recorded a time of one minute 33.647 seconds early on in the dry heat of Bahrain. BMW Sauber's Nick Heidfeld and Robert Kubica used their power boost systems to effect to finish second and third. Brawn GP's championship leader Jenson Button came through in fifth. Little, in truth, can be truly drawn from a session in which the dramas of the 2009 season did not flare up - and practice is rarely genuinely indicative of what will happen in qualifying or the race itself. But Hamilton and his McLaren team will be pleased that their car is showing signs of life as they continue to recover from a disastrous start to the season. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8016066.stm |
Re: Formula 1 Grandprix 2009 by nazzyon(m): 9:58am On Apr 26, 2009 |
Another awesome qualifying race yesterday. A good day for Toyota 1,2; an improvement for Mclaren and Ferrari. STARTING GRID @ 1200GMT P. Driver Team 1 Jarno Trulli Toyota 2 Timo Glock Toyota 3 Sebastian Vettel Red Bull 4 Jenson Button Brawn 5 Lewis Hamilton McLaren 6 Rubens Barrichello Brawn 7 Fernando Alonso Renault 8 Felipe Massa Ferrari 9 Nico Rosberg Williams 10 Kimi Räikkönen Ferrari 11 Heikki Kovalainen McLaren 12 Kazuki Nakajima Williams 13 Robert Kubica BMW 14 Nick Heidfeld BMW 15 Nelson Piquet Renault 16 Sebastien Buemi Toro Rosso 17 Giancarlo Fisichella Force India 18 Mark Webber Red Bull 19 Adrian Sutil Force India 20 Sebastien Bourdais Toro Rosso |
Re: Formula 1 Grandprix 2009 by nazzyon(m): 10:47am On Apr 26, 2009 |
CRASH:
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Re: Formula 1 Grandprix 2009 by nazzyon(m): 3:28pm On Apr 26, 2009 |
BAHRAIN GP RESULT Kimi picked the first point for Ferrari today. Felipe Massa finished 14th on the grid, Heiki of Mclaren finished 12th while Fernando Alonso picked the last point on the grid @ 8th. Jenson Button still shining like the stars. BARCELONA HERE WE COME
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Re: Formula 1 Grandprix 2009 by cold(m): 8:31pm On Apr 26, 2009 |
Jenson Button does it AGAIN in Bahrain!!!Who can stop this man. |
Re: Formula 1 Grandprix 2009 by FBS: 7:28pm On May 10, 2009 |
the guy just did the spanish one. Now, I really don't want to believe that he is that good. He is not a rookie, neither is he a sophomore. . .he has spent donkey years in F1 without much success but all of a sudden, bang he is confidently leading the championship. The Brawn/Mercedes car get as he be. There is more to it than the diffuser. Anyone agree with me? |
Re: Formula 1 Grandprix 2009 by cold(m): 7:38pm On May 10, 2009 |
FBS: Naa i dont think so.With the new F1 regulations nothin is shrouded in secrecy,i think Braun GP team just has a better technical edge than their contemporaries.I just feel so sorry for Hamilton he knows the championship is out of his grasp,may be the Maclaren wld do beta nxt szn. |
Re: Formula 1 Grandprix 2009 by FBS: 11:13am On May 12, 2009 |
cold:and what does that include? |
Re: Formula 1 Grandprix 2009 by A40(m): 2:15am On May 13, 2009 |
It seems Ferrari are seriously considering leaving F1 and if they do it might as well be goodbye to the sport as we know it.They have not been up to speed this season anyway http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/12052009/58/ferrari-ll-walk-f1.html I think its safe to assume now that the Brawn Mercedes car and its driver J.Button are here to stay as Ferrari and Mclaren appear to have taken a hike |
Re: Formula 1 Grandprix 2009 by FBS: 6:28am On May 13, 2009 |
Just reading this morning. . . However, Toyota and Red Bull have also already threatened not to enter next year's championship unless the new rules change. How interesting to have a two tier championship. What will the second one called? |
Re: Formula 1 Grandprix 2009 by A40(m): 3:02am On May 15, 2009 |
Formula 2 |
Re: Formula 1 Grandprix 2009 by FBS: 7:52am On May 15, 2009 |
A-40: but that will be degrading, don't you think? phuck I'm already loosing interest in F1. |
Re: Formula 1 Grandprix 2009 by Aderoy(m): 12:28pm On May 15, 2009 |
Naa i dont think so.With the new F1 regulations nothin is shrouded in secrecy,i think Braun GP team just has a better technical edge than their contemporaries.I just feel so sorry for Hamilton he knows the championship is out of his grasp,may be the Maclaren wld do beta nxt sznand what does that include? @ FBS If you guys take a step back and look at the battle for the championship title last year abd a year before. McLarena and Ferrari were hot on each others tails putting all their enery and research into improving the car week in week out. During this space of time however, teams like HONDA (now Brawn GP), BMW and Force India were putting more into researching their 2009 F1 cars. If you all notice that Braan (the Principal owner of Brwan GP) pointed out during their F1 Overtaking Steering Committee (the committee that proposed the radical changes like adjustable wings, KERS battery, etc) that the rules guiding the rear column behid the cars are subject to various interpretation as the rules are not clear. I can recall in that he was shouted down several times (according to one of the reports I read) by a few teams chief among which is the BMW Saubau team. The report goes to say that BMW think that they are far ahead of other teams with their innovative designs and KERS system thus it will be foolhardy to derails their advantage over other teams hence the reason for goign against the issues raised by Brawn. Brawn on the hand having worked for Ferrari knows how to put his strategy in to play. Although he got a bulk of starting investment from the departing HONDA management he was able to hit the ground running with his innovative rear double diffuser by exploiting the loopholes in the rules to his advantage while other teams were sulking. And all along during the reasearch and developmtent phase he got the nod from FIA that his clever rear difuser design were within the stipulation of the rules. I am not surprised that his team are in front, what I am however surprised at his that BRAWN GP supposedly think that they can gain another six-tenth of a second, with further improvement, over other cars. That's gona be interesting to see how things develop over the course of the year. Unfortunately for big-spending teams like Ferrari and McClaren, their wings have been clipped by the new 2009 rules. They cannot spend their way out of trouble by including other clever bits and bob to their car during the course of the year. No wing appendages, no modification of any sort that could signiifcantly change the aerodynamic package of their cars. Hmm, To add to the woes to Ferrari for example, their unreliability issues have continueed to hunt them. Before I am torn into pieces, I must add here that I am an adherent McLaren fan. But I wana see how good they are in crisis management and how they can react to such an uphil task playing catch-up with a supposedly newbie in F1. Should be very interesting to see how other teams also react. Somene was suggesting earlier on that other teams will take Brawn to the cleaners when they develop their own rear diffuser. Need I remind you that as soon as you add nayting or remove any bit of the car then you have successfuly compromised the aerodynamic balance of the car. Branwn have succeeded in designing its 2009 package botton-up taking into account of the diffuser and designing the air-flow around the car such that the diffuser collums allows airflow through it thus giving a powerful downforce. I am not in any way suggesting that other teams can't design a better diffuser, all I want to pointout however is that each team will have do spend more time in getting their heads round re-designing the car aerodynamics - that means more reasearch and test in their respective reasearch wind tunnels. That is definitely equivalent to more time and investment while the season is ongoing. As it may eventually play out, while others are embroiled in re-desinging to get their diffuser up-to-date, Brawn on the other hand is busy researching into finding that extra six tenth of a second they have predicted. Do not forget that aside the rear diffuser, teams like Ferrari and BMW Saubu (who happen to be the proponents of the KERS system) are still dinign it exremely hard to get their KERS system to work properly thus compromising their already stunted pace. Bring it on Brawn. My other quetion for NLanders, what will happen if Ferrari, BMW and Renault pull out of F1. The 3 teams have threatened to pull out from 2010 championship if the FIA go ahead with its proposed £40m budget cap for each team |
Re: Formula 1 Grandprix 2009 by Phony200(m): 9:27am On May 17, 2009 |
Ferrari is fighting tooth and nail to get the budget cap removed. It won't happen. Every other team is just reeling from the shock of seeing the Brawn rear diffusers work so well considering that it was not really a secret but no one just paid it any mind. Methinks after all is said and done, a compromise will be reached with all the teams but F1 will never be the same again. |
Re: Formula 1 Grandprix 2009 by A40(m): 2:32pm On May 17, 2009 |
FBS:Its definitely becoming crap these days to be honest they are not that many good drivers anymore and the stupid rules and regulations are making the sport boring @Aderoy Your analysis na baba!! you do know your F1 the thing is even if other teams are able to get their rear diffuser working it might be a little too late in the season for them to catch up with Brawn Ferrari are F1's equivalent of Brazil in Soccer i just don't know how that sport would look without Ferrari in it losing McClaren would be another big blow i think those two teams actually have the biggest fans in the sport so it would be in the FIA's best interest to appease these guys and work something out |
Re: Formula 1 Grandprix 2009 by FBS: 7:33am On May 19, 2009 |
but the F1 chief says no back down on the budget cap. What happens then? @Aderoy, going by your analysis, are we to say conclude that it is not JB that is a good driver but rather the car he is driving? Formula 1 is about cars and drivers and you cannot seperate the 2 but the moment one single car has an advantage over others then it is no longer a competition. Where is the leverage? All that is left is for them to do the catch up. F1 is degrading itself and honestly, I think a lot of people are getting really annoyed not only by the way things are currently going. . .the stupid rules dont even help matters. Everyone wants to see competitive cars driven by competitive drivers and not what we are seeing now. One good look at how these Brawn Mercedes cars perform at the curves and turns and you will see what I'm saying. No, this is no fault of BM (they simply took advantage of what other ignored) but then, this is a sport and there should be a leverage. |
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