Ishilove:
On a more serious note, clowning aside

Johnydon22, what you are doing is trying to box God into the rational confines of the four walls of human reasoning. An exercise in futility, I must add

You say the things you say because you do not know what you are talking about. You think you do, but you don't.

What you need is a 'Paul encounter' to open your eyes. Paul had to be blinded before he could see, and I hope God shows you mercy by 'blinding' you so that you too can see the light.

But the natural (carnal) man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned -1st Cor 2:14. KJV.

malvisguy212:
if you find it hard to forgive your enemy, why not look for a gun and kill him, no God will hold you accountable for your sin .

The morality of Jesus was so far ahead of its time that 2,000 years after Jesus brought it to this planet, modern society is still no closer to attaining it. 'Go the extra mile . . . bless those who curse you. . . Turned the other cheek . . . It is more blessed to give than to receive . . .' Present day morality, with its crude focus upon observable behavior rather than HEART attitude, is hopelessly primitive and out of touch with reality.

malvisguy212:
if you find it hard to forgive your enemy, why not look for a gun and kill him, no God will hold you accountable for your sin .

The morality of Jesus was so far ahead of its time that 2,000 years after Jesus brought it to this planet, modern society is still no closer to attaining it. 'Go the extra mile . . . bless those who curse you. . . Turned the other cheek . . . It is more blessed to give than to receive . . .' Present day morality, with its crude focus upon observable behavior rather than HEART attitude, is hopelessly primitive and out of touch with reality.

malvisguy212:
even before adam and Eve disobeyed God , they know what is right and wrong. With or without the bible , man know what is right and wrong, the purpose of the bible is to have a personal relationship with God.

If Buddha taught the same thing , then follow him , its your choice, as for me , I belong to Jesus forever more.

freecocoa:
This forgiveness nonsense seems to be what I find most ridiculous with these theists, I mean like, me a small sinner that only 'fornicates' will share the same hell with shekau, or better yet, should Shekau manage to accept jesus before his death, he'd own a mansion in paradise and me go occupy hell, I wonder how anyone can see sense in this.

Ishilove:
On a more serious note, clowning aside

Johnydon22, what you are doing is trying to box God into the rational confines of the four walls of human reasoning. An exercise in futility, I must add.

You say the things you say because you do not know what you are talking about. You think you do, but you don't.

What you need is a 'Paul encounter' to open your eyes. Paul had to be blinded before he could see, and I hope God shows you mercy by 'blinding' you so that you too can see the light.

But the natural (carnal) man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned -1st Cor 2:14. KJV.

dalaman:


Shekau already believes he will go to Allah's paradise for killing the infidels. The christians believe Moses of the bible who is no different from Shekau is already in heaven.

freecocoa:
This forgiveness nonsense seems to be what I find most ridiculous with these theists, I mean like, me a small sinner that only 'fornicates' will share the same hell with shekau, or better yet, should Shekau manage to accept jesus before his death, he'd own a mansion in paradise and me go occupy hell, I wonder how anyone can see sense in this.

plaetton:


Again waxing ignorant, they taught you in sunday school that morality started with Jesus?

It Amazes that you thing that world began 2000yrs ago with Jesus.

Ever heard of Hammurabi or Zoroaster.?
I bet you haven't.

These were moral law givers that lived thousands of years before Jesus.

The problem with christians is their tendency to use the so-called forgiveness to abdicate moral responsibilities when it suits them.

If your skydaddy is forgiving you everyday, then where lies your responsibility to live a moral life everyday?

Isn't the christian moral delusions about being forgiven the fuel for corruptions, Wars and disharmony?

malvisguy212:
you do not create this thread to ask question, you create it to mock christians, I forgive my enemy and you find this act stu'pid? Were did you learn this moral behaviour ? Here what Jesus say in response to Simon peter question:

Matthew 18:21–22
The Parable of the Unforgiving Servant
21 Then Peter came up and said to him,
“Lord, how often will my brother sin
against me, and I forgive him? As many
as seven times?” 22 Jesus said to him, “I
do not say to you seven times, but
seventy-seven times.

Jesus was teaching about the christians character, the reason you see this as foolishness is because this moral behaviour contradicte your character , if you allow the spirit to control you, you would find happiness in forgiving people , can you boast , you have never hurt someone before ? The bible contradicte atheists character.

johnydon22:
Oh really? The same you will still be the first to say Adam and Eve had no idea of what Good or Bad is until after they have eaten the fruit and their eyes opened. . You need to slow down and see how you contradict your own biblical stories when it suits your own selfish ideology.
Sorry to disappoint you, unlike you i have an independent sense of what i see to be moral, i do not need Buddha or anybody to tell me they too are not any more human than i am.

But you, you lack any form of psychological independency that's why you rely on the philosophies of others to guide your moral basis.

That's why you need the bible to tell you murder is wrong because your brain cannot on it's own find out that murder is wrong..

GooseBaba:


So you're clearly admit that you are possessed by a spirit you conjure from a book...

GooseBaba:


Aunty, i hail ohhh...

malvisguy212:
you do not create this thread to ask question, you create it to mock christians, I forgive my enemy and you find this act stu'pid? Were did you learn this moral behaviour ? Here what Jesus say in response to Simon peter question:

freecocoa:
This forgiveness nonsense seems to be what I find most ridiculous with these theists, I mean like, me a small sinner that only 'fornicates' will share the same hell with shekau, or better yet, should Shekau manage to accept jesus before his death, he'd own a mansion in paradise and me go occupy hell, I wonder how anyone can see sense in this.

malvisguy212:
when satan approach the woman , the woman quote what God command them not to do "we should not eat from the tree" this indicate, adam and Eve know what is wrong and right before the fall.

The bible is not the philosophies of others , it is the word of God.

And this in fact is a huge insult to the intellect of such entity if there is because the creator of the universe who thinks stars can fall to earth (Rev 6:13) shows it doesn't even know what a star is. . .portrays stack illiteracy. . I wonder how the creator of the universe didnt know stars were 1million times larger than the earth and still thinks stars will fall from heaven and cover 1/3 of earth. .

Ishilove:

I know. I'm just yanking your heavy chains.

Ishilove:

Be very very careful what you wish for...

johnydon22:
We have all read the story. . First we know Adam and Eve knew nothing, they did not even know they were naked and the bible was clear that they only found the difference between right from wrong after the act. . .The woman implied God said "don't" but she didn't give the impression God said it was wrong (how will she even comprehend that when she doesn't know what wrong is) . . Please the story is there for all to see...
And this in fact is a huge insult to the intellect of such entity if there is because the creator of the universe who thinks stars can fall to earth (Rev 6:13) shows it doesn't even know what a star is. . .portrays stack illiteracy. . I wonder how the creator of the universe didnt know stars were 1million times larger than the earth and still thinks stars will fall from heaven and cover 1/3 of earth. .

malvisguy212:
the bible contradicte your character that why. The reason you type this nonsense is because you are comparing God nature and human.

simplex2:


Actually, your bible states that God made man in his own image (physical), after his Likeness (spiritual, psychological, reasoning, logic, intelligence etc)

So why is it wrong to try to apply logic and reasoning to this una God? Did he wrap his word in Godly mystery and send down to man who he knws doesn't understand the Godly words to read and digest?

malvisguy212:
adam and Eve know eating from the tree mean they are disobeying God that why they quote the very command of God, in fact if satan know adam and Eve did not know right and wrong , then why will satan stress himself in tricking them instead of going to them freely ?

The falling of stars onto the Earth. Revelation 6:13-14 is talking about an event YET to come, and as such cannot be proven or disproved from science. In fact the book indicates that the events are NOT NATURAL, BUT SUPERNATURAL. To say that they describe something that is not naturally possible is to state what the book ALREADY tells us.

Yea science can not prove that stars are in fact too large to fall on earth...And the creator of the universe has no idea of this fact is as funny as it shows abject ignorance and this is the kind of things you would claim for such entity. . size comparison of our sun which is an average G-type star and a red giant star. . the sun is obviously even too small..

this is what we get when 21st century beings base their whole thinking to the naive ideas of primitive men of 2k years ago who didn't know what a galaxy is...You insult the very intellect of 21st century men.

Revelation is the book of the Bible, which the apostle John received in a VISION. As in many visions given to men by God, the receiver was not always able to explain or understand exactly what he saw. The description of the events are those as perceived by John. The Greek word, astayr, besides being translated "star" can also have the meaning "comet," "meteor" or"asteroid", since there is no Greek word having this meaning. Even our English language refers to meteorites as "falling stars." The description of the "star" Wormwood seems to be that of a large meteorite or comet.

malvisguy212:
even the angels cannot shere the Glory of God.created in His image doesent mean we have the nature of God.

Ishilove:
On a more serious note, clowning aside

Johnydon22, what you are doing is trying to box God into the rational confines of the four walls of human reasoning. An exercise in futility, I must add.

You say the things you say because you do not know what you are talking about. You think you do, but you don't.

What you need is a 'Paul encounter' to open your eyes. Paul had to be blinded before he could see, and I hope God shows you mercy by 'blinding' you so that you too can see the light.

But the natural (carnal) man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned -1st Cor 2:14. KJV.

malvisguy212:
when satan approach the woman , the woman quote what God command them not to do "we should not eat from the tree" this indicate, adam and Eve know what is wrong and right before the fall.
The bible is not the philosophies of others , it is the word of God.

freecocoa:
This forgiveness nonsense seems to be what I find most ridiculous with these theists, I mean like, me a small sinner that only 'fornicates' will share the same hell with shekau, or better yet, should Shekau manage to accept jesus before his death, he'd own a mansion in paradise and me go occupy hell, I wonder how anyone can see sense in this.

GooseBaba:


Typical rubbish...

God should "blind you so you can see....
God should rape you so you can be saved
God should stab you so evil can bleed out..
God should poison you with his anointing..
God should naked you so you can be pure...
God should embarrass with his glory...
God should give you what belongs to others...

Una wahala plenty...

freecocoa:
Na me hail pass bros me.

Like say you no dey do am too.

malvisguy212:
you do not create this thread to ask question, you create it to mock christians, I forgive my enemy and you find this act stu'pid? Were did you learn this moral behaviour ? Here what Jesus say in response to Simon peter question:

Matthew 18:21–22
The Parable of the Unforgiving Servant
21 Then Peter came up and said to him,
“Lord, how often will my brother sin
against me, and I forgive him? As many
as seven times?” 22 Jesus said to him, “I
do not say to you seven times, but
seventy-seven times.

Jesus was teaching about the christians character, the reason you see this as foolishness is because this moral behaviour contradicte your character , if you allow the spirit to control you, you would find happiness in forgiving people , can you boast , you have never hurt someone before ? The bible contradicte atheists character.

johnydon22:
.The same you who is here claiming your God concept is above human reason is still the one who will lay out your ideas as the words of God, the same you label books written by humans as the word of this God you still claim is above human reason. . The same you who claims God is unknowable still knows the characters of this God that you are quite sure it has a son, it has a golden mansion in the sky, it has a literal burning fire to punish people but yet it is beyond human comprehension.

I so wonder if someone can deceive themselves anymore than that. . .
God is above human reason and so says another human.....
Unlike you i have full total control of my thought and reason independent of any prejudice, i advice you do so too.
Aaaaah yes the bible quoting. . I have once being there, i know what it feels like to have a belief.

I know if not more than you what it is to have a conviction and i know the effect of this Stockholm syndrome you exhibit. . so i totally understand cus frankly i once use to quote these verses too.

urheme:



Ishilove i have serious problem with religion oh, was raised a christian but this is the one i hate most.

Christ did not die to give us religion according to joyce meyer in her book.

Pls can you put up a proper defence for the christian God without the Bible?

What are your independent feelings about this god?
How do you perceive him it or her.




Even with out religion or bible they could discern wrong from right, then of what good is religion really

It seems like religion had'nt had value to humanity, the natural man was consciously designed to know wrong from right.

simplex2:
According to them, people like Bill Gates: who is single handedly wiping out diseases in Africa will go to hell while an armed robber tied on the stakes about to be shot dead manages to mumble few words whispered to him by an attending pastor is automatically forgiven and goes to heaven.

Abeg, if Gates will be in hell, count me in!