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Re: Augustine University: First Catholic University In Lagos Opens by Ramos16(m): 1:05pm On Oct 18, 2015
domopps:



Thanks for the unrequested advice ! But no need 2 be insolent b4 passing a msg on faceless forum like this even with ppl u can never bleep with upon having one on one encounter with them , plus am not the type with shallow brain just like you ! Cos all I see by quoting me is just slowpoke trying to practice his ability to do stunts and not Valid point!


I wonder what has hap this current generation but i blame it on PDP


Pls be guided




Cheeeers

ahhhh! my friend, it is not because of the faceless forum that I say that to you, it just pisses me off that you had to use the less intelligent part of your brain to think... I have nothing against you, and trust me I will say the same to you even if you are as huge as an Iroko tree, which I very much doubt... Plus you just strengthened my point by bringing up PDP in this so unrelated issue..... My major anger with you is that you had to change the whole essence of the OP's post to hate talk, and that made almost every other person here follow suite.

See, no vex, my point is simple, Catholic Schools are expensive, and if you know better you will not be saying all these things you are saying (or feeling) now...

cheers to you too
Re: Augustine University: First Catholic University In Lagos Opens by zik4ever: 1:13pm On Oct 18, 2015
9jatatafo:
men deviating from the standards. federal universities all the way. not this advanced secondary schools called private universities
The onus is on government to improve both infrastructure and teaching in our public schools (Federal and State universities). I went to a well-reputed public university but I can tell you things have gone down the hill there now. For those who easily say private universities are all 'glorified secondary schools', the train may just leave you at the station. A multinational company with very stringent recruitment process did recruitment a year or two ago, and the recruiters where shocked that most of the successful ones came from a particular private university in the west and one of them asked -"what is that school doing differently?". Employers are looking beyond paper and past name of your school now. New skill sets like strategic analysis, out of the box thinking, problem solving and inter-personal relationship (soft skills) in addition to your academic competence meanwhile some of our schools are still stuck with decayed library books and strike-weary, plagiarising, handout-selling and sex-seeking lecturers. By the way, I am not condemning public schools but saying, dont write off private ones either. Things and times are changing fast. Some of the same lecturers in the public are the ones now teaching in the private and they are very stringent with supervision and performance. Of course, on both sides, there could be the good, the bad and the ugly.

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Re: Augustine University: First Catholic University In Lagos Opens by Olufemiolaolu(m): 1:14pm On Oct 18, 2015
Simitrendy:



Thank God for Federal University


Acceptance Fee=20,000
Bank Charges = 500


School Fees =76,000
Bank Charges= 500


Accommodation=22,000


I mean for Fresher's oh!

And u will still be given UNILORIN Tab


Even sef SUG go give u school bag

Even dem go give u flash drive


When you are in Part 2,3,4 u will go back to 30K

U will def spend that #730,000 For your undergraduate degree in a Federal University. grin


Tho Private Universities are good to some extent wink


But I thank God for d Federal Uni I dey grin


Its still xpensive still, unilag is cheaper. Its 54k minus accomodatn.
Re: Augustine University: First Catholic University In Lagos Opens by chinyerea2: 1:16pm On Oct 18, 2015
Who knows maybe the school will also provide good jobs for their graduates! grin grin grin
Re: Augustine University: First Catholic University In Lagos Opens by Kamxin(m): 1:20pm On Oct 18, 2015
Okanokan:
I am a Catholic. Its time genuine catholic get across to the pope and make him understand that what we call Catholic Church in Nigeria is a BIG BUSINESS CONCERN.

You are not a Catholic.
Catholic church have many universities in every continent many in Rome. Catholic church have universities thousand years ago, their fees in Nigeria is not higher than it is in other countries.

If you want to be a protestant, you are free, dont wail because you see others wailing.

Understand the concept ''catholic university'' first and comment and no vice versa
Re: Augustine University: First Catholic University In Lagos Opens by 9jatatafo(m): 1:41pm On Oct 18, 2015
zik4ever:

The onus is on government to improve both infrastructure and teaching in our public schools (Federal and State universities). I went to a well-reputed public university but I can tell you things have gone down the hill there now. For those who easily say private universities are all 'glorified secondary schools', the train may just leave you at the station. A multinational company with very stringent recruitment process did recruitment a year or two ago, and the recruiters where shocked that most of the successful ones came from a particular private university in the west and one of them asked -"what is that school doing differently?". Employers are looking beyond paper and past name of your school now. New skill sets like strategic analysis, out of the box thinking, problem solving and inter-personal relationship (soft skills) in addition to your academic competence meanwhile some of our schools are still stuck with decayed library books and strike-weary, plagiarising, handout-selling and sex-seeking lecturers. By the way, I am not condemning public schools but saying, dont write off private ones either. Things and times are changing fast. Some of the same lecturers in the public are the ones now teaching in the private and they are very stringent with supervision and performance. Of course, on both sides, there could be the good, the bad and the ugly.

I quite agree with you on some points raised by you but the fees these private universities are just not for the poor people. The trend is becoming education is for the rich and not for the poor. I went to a federal university as well and we all know the ills but then education in this country is going out of control. We have to retrace our steps for the better
Re: Augustine University: First Catholic University In Lagos Opens by olatunde207(m): 1:41pm On Oct 18, 2015
Abeg make una let us hear word....Catholic no be wat u think like that.. Shey na u wan pay the 730k ni?
Re: Augustine University: First Catholic University In Lagos Opens by swagifted(m): 1:42pm On Oct 18, 2015
FriedPlantain:
N730,000 for school fees? shocked
My whole school fees from primary 1 till I finished my university education wasn't even up to N400,000 undecided
lol , how is that an issue? Na your choice na
Re: Augustine University: First Catholic University In Lagos Opens by atospet(m): 2:15pm On Oct 18, 2015
People make the same mistake Education is not cheap just because the FG pays subsidy on education that's why we don't know the valve. We don't pay tuition in all the federal government schools. There was a time we heard a rumour that the FG would remove the subsidy and each federal university student will be paying as high as 350k. 750k, even some private secondary schools in Nigeria are paying more than that.

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Re: Augustine University: First Catholic University In Lagos Opens by Themandator: 2:48pm On Oct 18, 2015
Businessideas:
This is serious competition against Madonna University. Most Lagos based parents would chose St Augustine for proximity reasons


Based on what one has read and heard about that Madonna, one would state that anything that lead to it closure is welcomed... Mind you, it is in my state of origin.
Re: Augustine University: First Catholic University In Lagos Opens by ABSOL10: 3:03pm On Oct 18, 2015
na wa o.....this actually is unfair of d churches because missionary schools of those days were to help d less privilege not to kobalise and do business but is so unfortunate dat d so called church university have become a no go area...
Thank God for OAU sha oo though slow but still d best anywhere anytime any day
Acceptance fee - #2000
ACCOMODATION - #3090
where u will learn d basics of life not where after paying huge amount of money they are still.......I will forever prefer FEDERAL UNIVERSITIES to any other
Re: Augustine University: First Catholic University In Lagos Opens by Redfruit(m): 3:15pm On Oct 18, 2015
Kamxin:

Please note:

The first private university in Nigeria is a Catholic University ; MADONNA UNIVERSITY OKIJA ANAMBRA
STATE. BY MONSIGNOR Edeh Established more than 15years ago.

Every body is shouting hypocrite as if this first is Catholic university.
Madonna is owned by an individual who happens to be a priest, Rev fr Edeh. But the first university to be set up by the catholic church as an organisation/Entity is Godfrey Okoye university in Enugu.
Besides, he Fr Edeh is not a mosignor.
Re: Augustine University: First Catholic University In Lagos Opens by ehinmowo: 3:16pm On Oct 18, 2015
it's insane how people will just build some abbatoires and call them university
Re: Augustine University: First Catholic University In Lagos Opens by Okanokan(m): 3:29pm On Oct 18, 2015
Kamxin:


You are not a Catholic.
Catholic church have many universities in every continent many in Rome. Catholic church have universities thousand years ago, their fees in Nigeria is not higher than it is in other countries.

If you want to be a protestant, you are free, dont wail because you see others wailing.

Understand the concept ''catholic university'' first and comment and no vice versa

You just made me a PROTESTANT CATHOLIC. What we, Protestant Catholic are saying is that Catholic Church is an extraordinary neighbour, collecting tithes, offering, vows and other sundry charges for mass etc, and after charges a school fee that the average Nigerian cannot afford. What Nigerian are saying is that you cannot appropriate our land in communities across the nation to build schools that our children cannot attend. (Most land owned by the bigger churches of which the CATHOLIC CHURCH is the greatest beneficiaries were gotten free from the various communities with no form of encumberance), when they came into the country during the colonial era. What happen to CHARITY as a fundamental platform of catholism? Am of the opinion that the communities should enter into new agreement as done with oil companies, its time that communities whose land were given to these churches free be returned back, or renegotiated, 100year have passed since the church took control of our lives and land and force us pay for them.
Finally i am indeed a catholic and don't need to lie about it, there is nothing special calling oneself a catholic my grandfather brought catholic church to my community but am not proud of current leadership.
Re: Augustine University: First Catholic University In Lagos Opens by ALPHOBENZEVA: 3:55pm On Oct 18, 2015
Eco2580:

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Re: Augustine University: First Catholic University In Lagos Opens by Ramos16(m): 3:56pm On Oct 18, 2015
Okanokan:


You just made me a PROTESTANT CATHOLIC. What we, Protestant Catholic are saying is that Catholic Church is an extraordinary neighbour, collecting tithes, offering, vows and other sundry charges for mass etc, and after charges a school fee that the average Nigerian cannot afford. What Nigerian are saying is that you cannot appropriate our land in communities across the nation to build schools that our children cannot attend. (Most land owned by the bigger churches of which the CATHOLIC CHURCH is the greatest beneficiaries were gotten free from the various communities with no form of encumberance), when they came into the country during the colonial era. What happen to CHARITY as a fundamental platform of catholism? Am of the opinion that the communities should enter into new agreement as done with oil companies, its time that communities whose land were given to these churches free be returned back, or renegotiated, 100year have passed since the church took control of our lives and land and force us pay for them.
Finally i am indeed a catholic and don't need to lie about it, there is nothing special calling oneself a catholic my grandfather brought catholic church to my community but am not proud of current leadership.


you are actually right, you are one of the few people here who have said something sensible... Its quit unfortunate though, but it is not a catholic problem, it cost a lot to run a university... the reality of the expense comes to view when it is not a government sponsored school.. Trust me if the government should remove sponsorship from all public universities, they will definitely turn as expensive as this ones.... if you feel aggrieved about the leadership of the Church, you seem like a smart person and I believe you can do something about that smiley
Re: Augustine University: First Catholic University In Lagos Opens by Chukzyfcb(m): 3:57pm On Oct 18, 2015
All I can see here is sheer hatred. Those whose parents couldn't afford private varsity are beefing those whose parents can. I went to Unizik, but how many of you who went to fderal school can boast of your schools hostel, or the class room conditions of learning. Lecturers neglect most of us that's why handout is always flowing thru the course rep. Have any of you ever been to Convenant varsity? I swear, what u'll see alone from the ppearance of students & Infrastructure will make u go green with envy.
Fed school - Lower class
Private school - Middle class
Schools in europe - Higher middle class-Upper class.
Fix yourself where your financial strength can carry, stop beefing the fees! Federal school is HEAVILY SUBSIDIZED!!!

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Re: Augustine University: First Catholic University In Lagos Opens by Nobody: 4:00pm On Oct 18, 2015
Ugly infrastructure! cry cry cry cry

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Re: Augustine University: First Catholic University In Lagos Opens by arsetalks(m): 4:02pm On Oct 18, 2015
FriedPlantain:
N730,000 for school fees? shocked
My whole school fees from primary 1 till I finished my university education wasn't even up to N400,000 undecided
You shouldn't be too sure especially if it was/is your parents paying. We underestimate what our parents do until we have to either compulsorily or naturally have to do it for others.
Re: Augustine University: First Catholic University In Lagos Opens by Okanokan(m): 4:29pm On Oct 18, 2015
Ramos16:



you are actually right, you are one of the few people here who have said something sensible... Its quit unfortunate though, but it is not a catholic problem, it cost a lot to run a university... the reality of the expense comes to view when it is not a government sponsored school.. Trust me if the government should remove sponsorship from all public universities, they will definitely turn as expensive as this ones.... if you feel aggrieved about the leadership of the Church, you seem like a smart person and I believe you can do something about that smiley

Ramos, thanks for ur response. My take is that out there in the net Nigerian can indeed proffer solutions to myriad of problem confronting our Nation be it social, economic, religious or political. Am encouraged by your response not everyone out there means evil. The Church is one place we seek solace and succour from the vicissitudes of life and notably the Catholic Church as MOTHER CHURCH must show the way. Thanks Broda.
Re: Augustine University: First Catholic University In Lagos Opens by mheey(f): 4:50pm On Oct 18, 2015
Simitrendy:



Thank God for Federal University


Acceptance Fee=20,000
Bank Charges = 500


School Fees =76,000
Bank Charges= 500


Accommodation=22,000


I mean for Fresher's oh!

And u will still be given UNILORIN Tab


Even sef SUG go give u school bag

Even dem go give u flash drive


When you are in Part 2,3,4 u will go back to 30K

U will def spend that #730,000 For your undergraduate degree in a Federal University. grin


Tho Private Universities are good to some extent wink


But I thank God for d Federal Uni I dey grin



Mehn!! I paid #10,000 only frm yr2-finals in the university of Benin... Thank God for Federal Schools...

#Kpamurege
Re: Augustine University: First Catholic University In Lagos Opens by mrtopcas: 5:31pm On Oct 18, 2015
Is too bad
Re: Augustine University: First Catholic University In Lagos Opens by Godmann(m): 5:48pm On Oct 18, 2015
bushdoc9919:


Indeed!



By scholarships and non-interest grants. And by parents saving money for their child's education.....



If you think education is expensive, try illiteracy...R.Reagan.



And Scotland has high taxes, and earns a lot of money from oil, and corporate taxes. ....and has less than 6 million people.It also has light and water 24/7. Plus...alumni of Scot unis donate heavily to the unis....and the unis get research grants running into hundreds of million s of pounds.Nigerian unis cannot dream of that....plus you people would rebel if you were charged the same amount of taxes the average Scot pays.(Like Council tax, TV licence, income tax, etc).




Awoof education.....is not good for a nation.



Yes....so we should pay low fees....so that we can continue having poor funding for our unviersities? Sorry....but this is not the 1970's....when there were less than 90000 students in our universities. THis is now....where numbers may be higher than 2million



And how many are the smartest? Who determines who is smart? And won't the rich be over-represented among the smart.?

Simple fact is....if you want awoof education.....either you pay high taxes, like Denmark where it is 50% rate.......or you are an industrial nation like Germany and China.

Pray that God give you the firesight to appreciate what I said. I'm sure you are one of the privileged idiotic elites that whose priority is to keep the country down for their dumb relatives.

You all will soon be choked. The signs are already with us.
Re: Augustine University: First Catholic University In Lagos Opens by peterjero(m): 6:17pm On Oct 18, 2015
anonimi:


Did you not first classify me as utopian and not realistic

One good bad turn deserves another, nor be so? cheesy
Utopian is now an insult, I feel really bad with this your response well I will try not to take it to heart.
By the way here's a definition.
Utopian = adjective1. modeled on or aiming for a state in which everything is perfect; idealistic.noun1. an idealistic reformer.
if after reading this you say I'm insulting you then I'm sorry.

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Re: Augustine University: First Catholic University In Lagos Opens by alijusty: 6:54pm On Oct 18, 2015
The article below is quite long but it is worth reading every line of it.

The End of the University as We Know It
NATHAN HARDEN

The higher ed revolution is coming. Just a few decades hence, half the colleges and universities in the United States will have disappeared, but schools like Harvard will have millions of students.

In fifty years, if not much sooner, half of the roughly 4,500 colleges and universities now operating in the United States will have ceased to exist. The technology driving this change is already at work, and nothing can stop it. The future looks like this: Access to college-level education will be free for everyone; the residential college campus will become largely obsolete; tens of thousands of professors will lose their jobs; the bachelor’s degree will become increasingly irrelevant; and ten years from now Harvard will enroll ten million students.
We’ve all heard plenty about the “college bubble” in recent years. Student loan debt is at an all-time high—an average of more than $23,000 per graduate by some counts—and tuition costs continue to rise at a rate far outpacing inflation, as they have for decades. Credential inflation is devaluing the college degree, making graduate degrees, and the greater debt required to pay for them, increasingly necessary for many people to maintain the standard of living they experienced growing up in their parents’ homes. Students are defaulting on their loans at an unprecedented rate, too, partly a function of an economy short on entry-level professional positions. Yet, as with all bubbles, there’s a persistent public belief in the value of something, and that faith in the college degree has kept demand high.
The figures are alarming, the anecdotes downright depressing. But the real story of the American higher-education bubble has little to do with individual students and their debts or employment problems. The most important part of the college bubble story—the one we will soon be hearing much more about—concerns the impending financial collapse of numerous private colleges and universities and the likely shrinkage of many public ones. And when that bubble bursts, it will end a system of higher education that, for all of its history, has been steeped in a culture of exclusivity. Then we’ll see the birth of something entirely new as we accept one central and unavoidable fact: The college classroom is about to go virtual.

We are all aware that the IT revolution is having an impact on education, but we tend to appreciate the changes in isolation, and at the margins. Very few have been able to exercise their imaginations to the point that they can perceive the systemic and structural changes ahead, and what they portend for the business models and social scripts that sustain the status quo. That is partly because the changes are threatening to many vested interests, but also partly because the human mind resists surrender to upheaval and the anxiety that tends to go with it. But resist or not, major change is coming. The live lecture will be replaced by streaming video. The administration of exams and exchange of coursework over the internet will become the norm. The push and pull of academic exchange will take place mainly in interactive online spaces, occupied by a new generation of tablet-toting, hyper-connected youth who already spend much of their lives online. Universities will extend their reach to students around the world, unbounded by geography or even by time zones. All of this will be on offer, too, at a fraction of the cost of a traditional college education.
How do I know this will happen? Because recent history shows us that the internet is a great destroyer of any traditional business that relies on the sale of information. The internet destroyed the livelihoods of traditional stock brokers and bonds salesmen by throwing open to everyone access to the proprietary information they used to sell. The same technology enabled bankers and financiers to develop new products and methods, but, as it turned out, the experience necessary to manage it all did not keep up. Prior to the Wall Street meltdown, it seemed absurd to think that storied financial institutions like Bear Stearns and Lehman Brothers could disappear seemingly overnight. Until it happened, almost no one believed such a thing was possible. Well, get ready to see the same thing happen to a university near you, and not for entirely dissimilar reasons.
The higher-ed business is in for a lot of pain as a new era of creative destruction produces a merciless shakeout of those institutions that adapt and prosper from those that stall and die. Meanwhile, students themselves are in for a golden age, characterized by near-universal access to the highest quality teaching and scholarship at a minimal cost. The changes ahead will ultimately bring about the most beneficial, most efficient and most equitable access to education that the world has ever seen. There is much to be gained. We may lose the gothic arches, the bespectacled lecturers, dusty books lining the walls of labyrinthine libraries—wonderful images from higher education’s past. But nostalgia won’t stop the unsentimental beast of progress from wreaking havoc on old ways of doing things. If a faster, cheaper way of sharing information emerges, history shows us that it will quickly supplant what came before. People will not continue to pay tens of thousands of dollars for what technology allows them to get for free.
Technology will also bring future students an array of new choices about how to build and customize their educations. Power is shifting away from selective university admissions officers into the hands of educational consumers, who will soon have their choice of attending virtually any university in the world online. This will dramatically increase competition among universities. Prestigious institutions, especially those few extremely well-endowed ones with money to buffer and finance change, will be in a position to dominate this virtual, global educational marketplace. The bottom feeders—the for-profit colleges and low-level public and non-profit colleges—will disappear or turn into the equivalent of vocational training institutes. Universities of all ranks below the very top will engage each other in an all-out war of survival. In this war, big-budget universities carrying large transactional costs stand to lose the most. Smaller, more nimble institutions with sound leadership will do best.

This past spring, Harvard and MIT got the attention of everyone in the higher ed business when they announced a new online education venture called edX. The new venture will make online versions of the universities’ courses available to a virtually unlimited number of enrollees around the world. Think of the ramifications: Now anyone in the world with an internet connection can access the kind of high-level teaching and scholarship previously available only to a select group of the best and most privileged students. It’s all part of a new breed of online courses known as “massive open online courses” (MOOCs), which are poised to forever change the way students learn and universities teach.
One of the biggest barriers to the mainstreaming of online education is the common assumption that students don’t learn as well with computer-based instruction as they do with in-person instruction. There’s nothing like the personal touch of being in a classroom with an actual professor, says the conventional wisdom, and that’s true to some extent. Clearly, online education can’t be superior in all respects to the in-person experience. Nor is there any point pretending that information is the same as knowledge, and that access to information is the same as the teaching function instrumental to turning the former into the latter. But researchers at Carnegie Mellon’s Open Learning Initiative, who’ve been experimenting with computer-based learning for years, have found that when machine-guided learning is combined with traditional classroom instruction, students can learn material in half the time. Researchers at Ithaka S+R studied two groups of students—one group that received all instruction in person, and another group that received a mixture of traditional and computer-based instruction. The two groups did equally well on tests, but those who received the computer instruction were able to learn the same amount of material in 25 percent less time.
The real value of MOOCs is their scalability. Andrew Ng, a Stanford computer science professor and co-founder of an open-source web platform called Coursera (a for-profit version of edX), got into the MOOC business after he discovered that thousands of people were following his free Stanford courses online. He wanted to capitalize on the intense demand for high-quality, open-source online courses. A normal class Ng teaches at Stanford might enroll, at most, several hundred students. But in the fall of 2011 his online course in machine learning enrolled 100,000. “To reach that many students before”, Ng explained to Thomas Friedman of the New York Times, “I would have had to teach my normal Stanford class for 250 years.”

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Re: Augustine University: First Catholic University In Lagos Opens by alijusty: 6:56pm On Oct 18, 2015
Continuation

Based on the popularity of the MOOC offerings online so far, we know that open-source courses at elite universities have the potential to serve enormous “classes.” An early MIT online course called “Circuits and Electronics” has attracted 120,000 registrants. Top schools like Yale, MIT and Stanford have been making streaming videos and podcasts of their courses available online for years, but MOOCs go beyond this to offer a full-blown interactive experience. Students can intermingle with faculty and with each other over a kind of higher-ed social network. Streaming lectures may be accompanied by short auto-graded quizzes. Students can post questions about course material to discuss with other students. These discussions unfold across time zones, 24 hours a day. In extremely large courses, students can vote questions up or down, so that the best questions rise to the top. It’s like an educational amalgam of YouTube, Wikipedia and Facebook.
Among the chattering classes in higher ed, there is an increasing sense that we have reached a tipping point where new interactive web technology, coupled with widespread access to broadband internet service and increased student comfort interacting online, will send online education mainstream. It’s easy to forget that only ten years ago Facebook didn’t exist. Teens now approaching college age are members of the first generation to have grown up conducting a major part of their social lives online. They are prepared to engage with professors and students online in a way their predecessors weren’t, and as time passes more and more professors are comfortable with the technology, too.
In the future, the primary platform for higher education may be a third-party website, not the university itself. What is emerging is a global marketplace where courses from numerous universities are available on a single website. Students can pick and choose the best offerings from each school; the university simply uploads the content. Coursera, for example, has formed agreements with Penn, Princeton, UC Berkeley, and the University of Michigan to manage these schools’ forays into online education. On the non-profit side, MIT has been the nation’s leader in pioneering open-source online education through its MITx platform, which launched last December and serves as the basis for the new edX platform.

Hold on there a minute, you might object. Just as information is not the same as knowledge, and auto-access is not necessarily auto-didactics, so taking a bunch of random courses does not a coherent university education make. Mere exposure, too, doesn’t guarantee that knowledge has been learned. In other words, what about the justifiable function of majors and credentials?
MIT is the first elite university to offer a credential for students who complete its free, open-source online courses. (The certificate of completion requires a small fee.) For the first time, students can do more than simply watch free lectures; they can gain a marketable credential—something that could help secure a raise or a better job. While edX won’t offer traditional academic credits, Harvard and MIT have announced that “certificates of mastery” will be available for those who complete the online courses and can demonstrate knowledge of course material. The arrival of credentials, backed by respected universities, eliminates one of the last remaining obstacles to the widespread adoption of low-cost online education. Since edX is open source, Harvard and MIT expect other universities to adopt the same platform and contribute their own courses. And the two universities have put $60 million of their own money behind the project, making edX the most promising MOOC venture out there right now.
Anant Agarwal, an MIT computer science professor and edX’s first president, told the Los Angeles Times, “MIT’s and Harvard’s mission is to provide affordable education to anybody who wants it.” That’s a very different mission than elite schools like Harvard and MIT have had for most of their existence. These schools have long focused on educating the elite—the smartest and, often, the wealthiest students in the world.

But Agarwal’s statement is an indication that, at some level, these institutions realize that the scalability and economic efficiency of online education allow for a new kind of mission for elite universities. Online education is forcing elite schools to re-examine their priorities. In the future, they will educate the masses as well as the select few. The leaders of Harvard and MIT have founded edX, undoubtedly, because they realize that these changes are afoot, even if they may not yet grasp just how profound those changes will be.
And what about the social experience that is so important to college? Students can learn as much from their peers in informal settings as they do from their professors in formal ones. After college, networking with fellow alumni can lead to valuable career opportunities. Perhaps that is why, after the launch of edX, the presidents of both Harvard and MIT emphasized that their focus would remain on the traditional residential experience. “Online education is not an enemy of residential education”, said MIT president Susan Hockfield.
Yet Hockfield’s statement doesn’t hold true for most less wealthy universities. Harvard and MIT’s multi-billion dollar endowments enable them to support a residential college system alongside the virtually free online platforms of the future, but for other universities online education poses a real threat to the residential model. Why, after all, would someone pay tens of thousands of dollars to attend Nowhere State University when he or she can attend an online version of MIT or Harvard practically for free?
Re: Augustine University: First Catholic University In Lagos Opens by alijusty: 6:58pm On Oct 18, 2015
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This is why those middle-tier universities that have spent the past few decades spending tens or even hundreds of millions to offer students the Disneyland for Geeks experience are going to find themselves in real trouble. Along with luxury dorms and dining halls, vast athletic facilities, state of the art game rooms, theaters and student centers have come layers of staff and non-teaching administrators, all of which drives up the cost of the college degree without enhancing student learning. The biggest mistake a non-ultra-elite university could make today is to spend lavishly to expand its physical space. Buying large swaths of land and erecting vast new buildings is an investment in the past, not the future. Smart universities should be investing in online technology and positioning themselves as leaders in the new frontier of open-source education. Creating the world’s premier, credentialed open online education platform would be a major achievement for any university, and it would probably cost much less than building a new luxury dorm.
Even some elite universities may find themselves in trouble in this regard, despite their capacity, as noted, to retain the residential norm. In 2007 Princeton completed construction on a new $136 million luxury dormitory for its students—all part of an effort to expand its undergraduate enrollment. Last year Yale finalized plans to build new residential dormitories at a combined cost of $600 million. The expansion will increase the size of Yale’s undergraduate population by about 1,000. The project is so expensive that Yale could actually buy a three-bedroom home in New Haven for every new student it is bringing in and still save $100 million. In New York City, Columbia stirred up controversy by seizing entire blocks of Harlem by force of eminent domain for a project with a $6.3 billion price tag. Not to be outdone, Columbia’s downtown neighbor, NYU, announced plans to buy up six million square feet of debt-leveraged space in one of the most expensive real estate markets in the world, at an estimated cost of $6 billion. The University of Pennsylvania has for years been expanding all over West Philadelphia like an amoeba gone real-estate insane. What these universities are doing is pure folly, akin to building a compact disc factory in the late 1990s. They are investing in a model that is on its way to obsolescence. If these universities understood the changes that lie ahead, they would be selling off real estate, not buying it—unless they prefer being landlords to being educators.
Now, because the demand for college degrees is so high (whether for good reasons or not is not the question for the moment), and because students and the parents who love them are willing to take on massive debt in order to obtain those degrees, and because the government has been eager to make student loans easier to come by, these universities and others have, so far, been able to keep on building and raising prices. But what happens when a limited supply of a sought-after commodity suddenly becomes unlimited? Prices fall. Yet here, on the cusp of a new era of online education, that is a financial reality that few American universities are prepared to face.
The era of online education presents universities with a conflict of interests—the goal of educating the public on one hand, and the goal of making money on the other. As Burck Smith, CEO of the distance-learning company StraighterLine, has written, universities have “a public-sector mandate” but “a private-sector business model.” In other words, raising revenues often trumps the interests of students. Most universities charge as much for their online courses as they do for their traditional classroom courses. They treat the savings of online education as a way to boost profit margins; they don’t pass those savings along to students.
One potential source of cost savings for lower-rung colleges would be to draw from open-source courses offered by elite universities. Community colleges, for instance, could effectively outsource many of their courses via MOOCs, becoming, in effect, partial downstream aggregators of others’ creations, more or less like newspapers have used wire services to make up for a decline in the number of reporters. They could then serve more students with fewer faculty, saving money for themselves and students. At a time when many public universities are facing stiff budget cuts and families are struggling to pay for their kids’ educations, open-source online education looks like a promising way to reduce costs and increase the quality of instruction. Unfortunately, few college administrators are keen on slashing budgets, downsizing departments or taking other difficult steps to reduce costs. The past thirty years of constant tuition hikes at U.S. universities has shown us that much.

The biggest obstacle to the rapid adoption of low-cost, open-source education in America is that many of the stakeholders make a very handsome living off the system as is. In 2009, 36 college presidents made more than $1 million. That’s in the middle of a recession, when most campuses were facing severe budget cuts. This makes them rather conservative when it comes to the politics of higher education, in sharp contrast to their usual leftwing political bias in other areas. Reforming themselves out of business by rushing to provide low- and middle-income students credentials for free via open-source courses must be the last thing on those presidents’ minds.
Nevertheless, competitive online offerings from other schools will eventually force these “non-profit” institutions to embrace the online model, even if the public interest alone won’t. And state governments will put pressure on public institutions to adopt the new open-source model, once politicians become aware of the comparable quality, broad access and low cost it offers.
Re: Augustine University: First Catholic University In Lagos Opens by alijusty: 6:59pm On Oct 18, 2015
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Considering the greater interactivity and global connectivity that future technology will afford, the gap between the online experience and the in-person experience will continue to close. For a long time now, the largest division within Harvard University has been the little-known Harvard Extension School, a degree-granting division within the Faculty of Arts and Sciences with minimal admissions standards and very low tuition that currently enrolls 13,000 students. The Extension School was founded for the egalitarian purpose of making the Harvard education available to the masses. Nevertheless, Harvard took measures to protect the exclusivity of its brand. The undergraduate degrees offered by the Extension School (Bachelor of Liberal Arts) are distinguished by name from the degrees the university awards through Harvard College (Bachelor of Arts). This model—one university, two types of degrees—offers a good template for Harvard’s future, in which the old residential college model will operate parallel to the new online open-source model. The Extension School already offers more than 200 online courses for full academic credit.
Prestigious private institutions and flagship public universities will thrive in the open-source market, where students will be drawn to the schools with bigger names. This means, paradoxically, that prestigious universities, which will have the easiest time holding on to the old residential model, also have the most to gain under the new model. Elite universities that are among the first to offer robust academic programs online, with real credentials behind them, will be the winners in the coming higher-ed revolution.
There is, of course, the question of prestige, which implies selectivity. It’s the primary way elite universities have distinguished themselves in the past. The harder it is to get in, the more prestigious a university appears. But limiting admissions to a select few makes little sense in the world of online education, where enrollment is no longer bounded by the number of seats in a classroom or the number of available dorm rooms. In the online world, the only concern is having enough faculty and staff on hand to review essays, or grade the tests that aren’t automated, or to answer questions and monitor student progress online.
Certain valuable experiences will be lost in this new online era, as already noted. My own experience at Yale furnishes some specifics. Through its “Open Yale” initiative, Yale has been recording its lecture courses for several years now, making them available to the public free of charge. Anyone with an internet connection can go online and watch some of the same lectures I attended as a Yale undergrad. But that person won’t get the social life, the long chats in the dinning hall, the feeling of collegiality, the trips around Long Island sound with the sailing team, the concerts, the iron-sharpens-iron debates around the seminar table, the rare book library, or the famous guest lecturers (although some of those events are streamed online, too). On the other hand, you can watch me and my fellow students take the stage to demonstrate a Hoplite phalanx in Donald Kagan’s class on ancient Greek history. You can take a virtual seat next to me in one of Giuseppe Mazzota’s unforgettable lectures on The Divine Comedy.
So while it can never duplicate the experience of a student with the good fortune to get into Yale, this is an historically significant development. Anyone who can access the internet—at a public library, for instance—no matter how poor or disadvantaged or isolated or uneducated he or she may be, can access the teachings of some of the greatest scholars of our time through open course portals. Technology is a great equalizer. Not everyone is willing or capable of taking advantage of these kinds of resources, but for those who are, the opportunity is there. As a society, we are experiencing a broadening of access to education equal in significance to the invention of the printing press, the public library or the public school.

Online education is like using online dating websites—fifteen years ago it was considered a poor substitute for the real thing, even creepy; now it’s ubiquitous. Online education used to have a stigma, as if it were inherently less rigorous or less effective. Eventually for-profit colleges and public universities, which had less to lose in terms of snob appeal, led the charge in bringing online education into the mainstream. It’s very common today for public universities to offer a menu of online courses to supplement traditional courses. Students can be enrolled in both types of courses simultaneously, and can sometimes even be enrolled in traditional classes at one university while taking an online course at another.
The open-source marketplace promises to offer students additional choices in the way they build their credentials. Colleges have long placed numerous restrictions on the number of credits a student can transfer in from an outside institution. In many cases, these restrictions appear useful for little more than protecting the university’s bottom line. The open-source model will offer much more flexibility, though still maintain the structure of a major en route to obtaining a credential. Students who aren’t interested in pursuing a traditional four-year degree, or in having any major at all, will be able to earn meaningful credentials one class at a time.
To borrow an analogy from the music industry, universities have previously sold education in an “album” package—the four-year bachelor’s degree in a certain major, usually coupled with a core curriculum. The trend for the future will be more compact, targeted educational certificates and credits, which students will be able to pick and choose from to create their own academic portfolios. Take a math class from MIT, an engineering class from Purdue, perhaps with a course in environmental law from Yale, and create interdisciplinary education targeted to one’s own interests and career goals. Employers will be able to identify students who have done well in specific courses that match their needs. When people submit résumés to potential employers, they could include a list of these individual courses, and their achievement in them, rather than simply reference a degree and overall GPA. The legitimacy of MOOCs in the eyes of employers will grow, then, as respected universities take the lead in offering open courses with meaningful credentials.
MOOCs will also be a great remedy to the increasing need for continuing education. It’s worth noting that while the four-year residential experience is what many of us picture when we think of “college”, the residential college experience has already become an experience only a minority of the nation’s students enjoy. Adult returning students now make up a large mass of those attending university. Non-traditional students make up 40 percent of all college students. Together with commuting students, or others taking classes online, they show that the traditional residential college experience is something many students either can’t afford or don’t want. The for-profit colleges, which often cater to working adult students with a combination of night and weekend classes and online coursework, have tapped into the massive demand for practical and customized education. It’s a sign of what is to come.

What about the destruction these changes will cause? Think again of the music industry analogy. Today, when you drive down music row in Nashville, a street formerly dominated by the offices of record labels and music publishing companies, you see a lot of empty buildings and rental signs. The contraction in the music industry has been relentless since the Mp3 and the iPod emerged. This isn’t just because piracy is easier now; it’s also because consumers have been given, for the first time, the opportunity to break the album down into individual songs. They can purchase the one or two songs they want and leave the rest. Higher education is about to become like that.
For nearly a thousand years the university system has looked just about the same: professors, classrooms, students in chairs. The lecture and the library have been at the center of it all. At its best, traditional classroom education offers the chance for intelligent and enthusiastic students to engage a professor and one another in debate and dialogue. But typical American college education rarely lives up to this ideal. Deep engagement with texts and passionate learning aren’t the prevailing characteristics of most college classrooms today anyway. More common are grade inflation, poor student discipline, and apathetic teachers rubber-stamping students just to keep them paying tuition for one more term.
If you ask students what they value most about the residential college experience, they’ll often speak of the unique social experience it provides: the chance to live among one’s peers and practice being independent in a sheltered environment, where many of life’s daily necessities like cooking and cleaning are taken care of. It’s not unlike what summer camp does at an earlier age. For some, college offers the chance to form meaningful friendships and explore unique extracurricular activities. Then, of course, there are the Animal House parties and hookups, which do take their toll: In their research for their book Academically Adrift, Richard Arum and Josipa Roksa found that 45 percent of the students they surveyed said they had no significant gains in knowledge after two years of college. Consider the possibility that, for the average student, traditional in-classroom university education has proven so ineffective that an online setting could scarcely be worse. But to recognize that would require unvarnished honesty about the present state of play. That’s highly unlikely, especially coming from present university incumbents.
The open-source educational marketplace will give everyone access to the best universities in the world. This will inevitably spell disaster for colleges and universities that are perceived as second rate. Likewise, the most popular professors will enjoy massive influence as they teach vast global courses with registrants numbering in the hundreds of thousands (even though “most popular” may well equate to most entertaining rather than to most rigorous). Meanwhile, professors who are less popular, even if they are better but more demanding instructors, will be squeezed out. Fair or not, a reduction in the number of faculty needed to teach the world’s students will result. For this reason, pursuing a Ph.D. in the liberal arts is one of the riskiest career moves one could make today. Because much of the teaching work can be scaled, automated or even duplicated by recording and replaying the same lecture over and over again on video, demand for instructors will decline.
Who, then, will do all the research that we rely on universities to do if campuses shrink and the number of full-time faculty diminishes? And how will important research be funded? The news here is not necessarily bad, either: Large numbers of very intelligent and well-trained people may be freed up from teaching to do more of their own research and writing. A lot of top-notch research scientists and mathematicians are terrible teachers anyway. Grant-givers and universities with large endowments will bear a special responsibility to make sure important research continues, but the new environment in higher ed should actually help them to do that. Clearly some kinds of education, such as training heart surgeons, will always require a significant amount of in-person instruction.
Big changes are coming, and old attitudes and business models are set to collapse as new ones rise. Few who will be affected by the changes ahead are aware of what’s coming. Severe financial contraction in the higher-ed industry is on the way, and for many this will spell hard times both financially and personally. But if our goal is educating as many students as possible, as well as possible, as affordably as possible, then the end of the university as we know it is nothing to fear. Indeed, it’s something to celebrate.
Re: Augustine University: First Catholic University In Lagos Opens by 6fit(f): 7:08pm On Oct 18, 2015
Sonbuking:
Its no longer time when the church is the provider n protector of the poor. It is awful. Materilalism has enveloped the church. Lord have mercyundecided


God is watching all of them from a distance
Re: Augustine University: First Catholic University In Lagos Opens by Kamxin(m): 7:53pm On Oct 18, 2015
Redfruit:

Madonna is owned by an individual who happens to be a priest, Rev fr Edeh. But the first university to be set up by the catholic church as an organisation/Entity is Godfrey Okoye university in Enugu.
Besides, he Fr Edeh is not a mosignor.

Whatever belongs to a priest in the Catholic church, belongs to the Catholic church. The individual properties belongs to the Catholic church, if he dies nobody else would come and claim it than the Catholic church. MADONNA UNIVERSITY is a property of the Catholic church.
Re: Augustine University: First Catholic University In Lagos Opens by Nobody: 8:45pm On Oct 18, 2015
Frankiss44:



The Catholic Church doesn't have even one private jet... The Pope himself flies on a commercial plane..
You are right about Pope, but how about CAN President?

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