Missy89:


You see why i stop replying ya mentions? No reasonable argument but ad hominems.

Tkester:



Off course, just as you would have said the Russians have no kalibr missile or maybe they don't have the ability to launch naval cruise missiles. You talk as if you are the defence minister of Russia.

Missy89:



Armchair analysts are hilarious First, Tsar bomb doesn't exists anymore and even if it does, it can only be deployed by a bomber ( Russia does not have any sophisticated bomber aircraft). Iskander is a short rage tactical missile that can only be used in eastern Europe so it is not a threat to America. When you say Russia is decades ahead in planning, that is just hilarious. How do you know that? RT?
er.

Missy89:


Pls tell me how Russian tanks fare better. I need to know

missyAL8:


When did I post that? Quote it

Appleyard:


Missy, i understand that alot of folks deep down in western line of narative still don't understand the true nature of the formal Soviet Russia and the new Russia that emerges from 1990, but you shouldn't be one of them na.
There are two fundamental principles that governs the Russian military and strategic appealing. These are:

1) the principle of " under reporting " and,
2) the principle of " secrecy ".

The above mentioned principles dated back from Soviet times and was inculcated into this present day Russian military circles. I just don't have the time to go into much details, but allow me to cite a few recent example.

Syria- before now we have been bombarded with the popular and ever prevailing wisdom in the west that the Russia military is nothing other than a third rate military power, that everything is old and Soviet-based, blah blah! That Russia can not project power beyond its borders, and so goes the fairytale-misinformation line of reasoning in the west. But when the Bear began it mission to Syria, it lunched 26 cruise missiles that hit their targets in Syria. Now, this is where it becomes interesting. The Russian cruise missle is called the "kalibr," and this missile officially declared range is 300km, though the layout and built suggest otherwise. It's export version until the syrian mission was 300km. But when that damn missile crossed two countries, covering over 900 miles, it was a shock to know that the range of that missiles is actually up to 2600km. What does that mean? Well, the answer lies in the above two principles. Under reporting have always been part of Russia's military strategy. And it would interest you to know that Russia has alot of missiles with official declared range of 300-500km, including the Iskandal missile. What if Iskandal is just another kalibr?


Fear Russia

Appleyard:


Missy, i understand that alot of folks deep down in western line of narative still don't understand the true nature of the formal Soviet Russia and the new Russia that emerges from 1990, but you shouldn't be one of them na.
There are two fundamental principles that governs the Russian military and strategic appealing. These are:

1) the principle of " under reporting " and,
2) the principle of " secrecy ".

The above mentioned principles dated back from Soviet times and was inculcated into this present day Russian military circles. I just don't have the time to go into much details, but allow me to cite a few recent example.

Syria- before now we have been bombarded with the popular and ever prevailing wisdom in the west that the Russia military is nothing other than a third rate military power, that everything is old and Soviet-based, blah blah! That Russia can not project power beyond its borders, and so goes the fairytale-misinformation line of reasoning in the west. But when the Bear began it mission to Syria, it lunched 26 cruise missiles that hit their targets in Syria. Now, this is where it becomes interesting. The Russian cruise missle is called the "kalibr," and this missile officially declared range is 300km, though the layout and built suggest otherwise. It's export version until the syrian mission was 300km. But when that damn missile crossed two countries, covering over 900 miles, it was a shock to know that the range of that missiles is actually up to 2600km. What does that mean? Well, the answer lies in the above two principles. Under reporting have always been part of Russia's military strategy. And it would interest you to know that Russia has alot of missiles with official declared range of 300-500km, including the Iskandal missile. What if Iskandal is just another kalibr?

Fear Russia

Appleyard:
I mean numbers. Russia have more tanks than the US, and the T14 is a senior prefect to the Abram, except uncle sam have something better than the T14.


www.globalfirepower.com/armor-tanks-total.asp

Appleyard:


Syria- before now we have been bombarded with the popular and ever prevailing wisdom in the west that the Russia military is nothing other than a third rate military power, that everything is old and Soviet-based, blah blah! That Russia can not project power beyond its borders, and so goes the fairytale-misinformation line of reasoning in the west. But when the Bear began it mission to Syria, it lunched 26 cruise missiles that hit their targets in Syria. Now, this is where it becomes interesting. The Russian cruise missle is called the "kalibr," and this missile officially declared range is 300km, though the layout and built suggest otherwise. It's export version until the syrian mission was 300km. But when that damn missile crossed two countries, covering over 900 miles, it was a shock to know that the range of that missiles is actually up to 2600km. What does that mean? Well, the answer lies in the above two principles. Under reporting have always been part of Russia's military strategy. And it would interest you to know that Russia has alot of missiles with official declared range of 300-500km, including the Iskandal missile. What if Iskandal is just another kalibr?


Fear Russia

The yankees even had to resort to propaganda by saying that four missile fell across iran. Now that is pathetic, you see them run a simulation on how to stop an s300, s400 and all that but protested same when the missile where offered for sale in Iran. Now who is more coward than the other? It takes only a push button to turn their Patriot against them and when the time comes they shall see

Missy89:


Yes,Russia has more tanks. You said they fare better! how?

What makes a prototype untested T14 senior perfect in your book?

Appleyard:
Untested? Just as the S-300 is untested yet the likes of Isreal and Uncle Sam can't stop droolling over it sales to Iran and possible Sale to Syria, so too the T14 Amarta
A weapon's capability is accorded respect, not just by it battle-tested, but initially by its specifications. You know that one na, missy

Missy89:


There is a principle of secrecy/under reporting is in every military establishment. Forget what you see on tv or read online.

Every export versions of missiles is usually in the 300 range or there about. Has nothing to do with being secretive. Missile sales must comply by MTCR regulations. Russia is believed to have long range cruise missile capability way before kalibr was fired.

Appleyard:
Then why in hell was the myopic west taken aback when Russia lunched those cruise missiles? Pls stop speaking for the short sighted myopic Ediots politicians in the west that only sees through a microscopic lens when it comes down to Moscow. The fact that even some American and NATO military top brass and analyst expressed surprise at Russia's capability over Syria, is a testimony to the self-inflicted delusional views and perceptions they held concerning Russia, not the other way round.

you mentioned the Iskander missile as being a short range missile, then i brought up the Kalibr issue and the accompanying question as to: what if the Iskander is another Kalibir? Then you replied by saying "all missiles are within the 300km range," meaning you have admitted de facto that the Iskander could be well above that acclaimed range, and thus, not a short range missile as it appears.....

Tkester:



My brother don't mind missy, she just like her paymasters are suffering from delusions of grandeur. But the day their eyes go clear na de day dey will make one just one mistake and attack Mr Vlad, that's the day they will know that there is a difference between fiction and reality.

Missy89:


Saying a weapon is accorded respect because of its capability reeks of hypocrisy or should i say inconsistency since you wont say the same about NATO weapons with no battle history. Features like auto loader and safety pods for crews existed in western tanks since 12 BC. Russia always playing catch up.

Any military expert will even tell you the reason why Russia needed a lot of tanks apart from being a traditionally land power is because most of the T series tanks does not have a decent crew survivability history if you compare them to their western counterparts.

The T14 is a good concept but until it is deployed, It will remain a paper weapon. That said, If you want to talk about the Top 5 Tanks, No Russian tank will come close to the Challenger, Lecerc , Leopard , Panther or maybe the Type 10. Please tell me what i dont know.

At the moment, Russia cant even field any since there is no money to invest in the project. that is why Uralvagonzavod is considering exporting it to reduce the cost. Maybe by 2025, The Russian army will have few battalions of it and New Western tanks will start appearing and the circle continues.

Tkester:


Very pathetic!

Appleyard:
I just pray that T.B Joshua's prophecy concerning Russia and Putin should not come to pass in my time, because should anytthing like assassination happen to that man, na there people go no sey war no be fiction for hollywood and hyping of weaponries.

Missy89:



I see you are still stalking me. If you want to refute what i posted. all you have to so is post a counter argument. Simple!

Missy89:


Saying a weapon is accorded respect because of its capability reeks of hypocrisy or should i say inconsistency since you wont say the same about NATO weapons with no battle history. Features like auto loader and safety pods for crews existed in western tanks since 12 BC. Russia always playing catch up.

Any military expert will even tell you the reason why Russia needed a lot of tanks apart from being a traditionally land power is because most of the T series tanks does not have a decent crew survivability history if you compare them to their western counterparts.

The T14 is a good concept but until it is deployed, It will remain a paper weapon. That said, If you want to talk about the Top 5 Tanks, No Russian tank will come close to the Challenger, Lecerc , Leopard , Panther or maybe the Type 10. Please tell me what i dont know.

At the moment, Russia cant even field any since there is no money to invest in the project. that is why Uralvagonzavod is considering exporting it to reduce the cost. Maybe by 2025, The Russian army will have few battalions of it and New Western tanks will start appearing and the circle continues.

Appleyard:
Accept the truth and answer the question, missy. Is a weapon accorded respect base on battle field experience alone, or also by its specifications? Why this unecessary revving? Can you quote me on any thread where i have hypocritically disregarded any weaponry fielded by the US or its military crony bloc called NATO? Pls feel free to requote me here. If there is anyone that is bias base on such insinuations, it is your likes at the other end that doesn't see anything good about the Russians, but quickly applauds the ones murdering and devastating the earth.

I am not here to compare weapons, nor hype to high heavens the capability of Russia in that respect. But i will never cease from countering the silly prevailing line of thought inbibed and displayed by unrepented trollers
down here.

"Russia always playing catch up", but how such catch ups must suck when it is realized that cruise missiles like the kalibr can be manned and fired from smaller ships, a capability unknown to the west. So much for "always playing catch up".

We have been hearing of how Russia lack the financial muscles to undertake and maintain capabilities, yet it could fire a whole 26 missiles that cost about $700,000 each, not to mention the numbers of intense sorties flown so far in Syria that is more than those of NATO in Serbia and Kosovo combined. I guess it was Dangote that lend them the money they are using now,eh?

Missy, Russia is in deed facing some financial constraint, but believe me, once it comes to matters of security and strategic interest, they will empty the bank to achieve anything. The Syria mission is a testimony to that effect.


Missy, give the Ruskies their due.

Tkester:



The 2008 economic crises did no damage to Americas defense spending. Afterall America still has the highest defense budget each year. Truth is that Russia is far ahead of America in non-conventional warfare.

Missy89:


Saying a weapon is accorded respect because of its capability reeks of hypocrisy or should i say inconsistency since you wont say the same about NATO weapons with no battle history. Features like auto loader and safety pods for crews existed in western tanks since 12 BC. Russia always playing catch up.

Any military expert will even tell you the reason why Russia needed a lot of tanks apart from being a traditionally land power is because most of the T series tanks does not have a decent crew survivability history if you compare them to their western counterparts.

The T14 is a good concept but until it is deployed, It will remain a paper weapon. That said, If you want to talk about the Top 5 Tanks, No Russian tank will come close to the Challenger, Lecerc , Leopard , Panther or maybe the Type 10. Please tell me what i dont know.

At the moment, Russia cant even field any since there is no money to invest in the project. that is why Uralvagonzavod is considering exporting it to reduce the cost. Maybe by 2025, The Russian army will have few battalions of it and New Western tanks will start appearing and the circle continues.

sweetgala:


Russia had always had an advantage over the west in the area of radar technology and ground go air missiles due to their vast experience over the WW II and Cold War. Even the F117 was shot down by old russian sa-3 SAM.

To fear the Russians is a smart move their military might is exceedingly massive since Putin has been secretly gearing to activate WW III

EnigmaticEnigma:
smh

have you ever heard of "DARPA"

please do your research

Tkester:



Nonsense, there's nothing like DARPA. It's just fictional!

Tkester:


Jeez! Woman you can LIE, gosh!

EnigmaticEnigma:


r u for real

check out the iron curtain


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_yz_ONZltA

Missy89:


Still stalking me i see

Tkester:



I'm not stalking you, I only pointed out your lies.