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Re: NDOKI'S ARE NOT Ijaw---barcasinta And Other Ijaws Mind Yourselves by TonyeBarcanista(m): 1:51am On Nov 01, 2015 |
dearpreye:Please, I will be glad if you refrain from making statements like the bold EXCEPT when convinced. The bold is highly inappropriate. Basan, Furupagha and Tungbo was also founded about this time, through ancestors coming from Nupe, Oporoma, Kolokuma and Ke. Other clans include the Buseni and Okodia, who hailed from Kolokuma and Benin-Izon (Ado), Egbema from Iduwini and Operemo. Okirika or Kirikeni hailed from Isoma-bou, Andoni, and Ogboin,. Others include the Ndoki, who came from Isedani of Kolokuma, but now speak Ibo, Nkoro or small Okirika, Zarama and Egbema of Imo region, Opobo (1800), who hailed from the house of Opubo of Ibani (Bonny) and Oruma, whose other name is Tugbene hailing from Oboloma.www.unitedijaw.com/people.htm The emboldened is in conformity with what Ndoki Youth President posted
This was an Excerpt of a piece on a special report titles .. Special Report: The Position And Marginalization Of Ndoki Ethnic Nationality Written and compiled by: Comrade Henry O. Nwaigwe Youth Coordinator Ndoki Youth Federation and Ohuru Youth Grand Alliance 08062836738. www.chidioparareports..co.ke/2014/09/special-report-position-and_2.html?m=1 Please I have no interest to argue on this subject. The people know their history. 4 Likes 4 Shares |
Re: NDOKI'S ARE NOT Ijaw---barcasinta And Other Ijaws Mind Yourselves by Truckpusher(m): 1:52am On Nov 01, 2015 |
Euro31:You never cease to amaze me with your lies that keep emanating from the pit of hell. Dumbo , no Ogba, Ikwerre or Etche man in this life will ever tell you that he's an igbo man or even trace his origin to Igboland but it seems that you've all believed in your own lies that even if the truth should stick out a hand and smack you , you wouldn't still see it.But wait until you declare your phantom Biafra then you'll learn your lesson the hard way. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: NDOKI'S ARE NOT Ijaw---barcasinta And Other Ijaws Mind Yourselves by TonyeBarcanista(m): 1:57am On Nov 01, 2015 |
Truckpusher:Bros, Ndoki are Ijaw by ancestry as testified by their Youth President. Pls check the post I made (above) when I replied Dearpreye. Abeg, I no wan follow anybody argue on this subject. But know that the Ndokis in Rivers will stay with the Ijaws, while those in Abia state will decide their choice having lived with the Igbos for such a long time. I am not claiming any land, I'm only stating facts. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: NDOKI'S ARE NOT Ijaw---barcasinta And Other Ijaws Mind Yourselves by Vicotex(m): 2:01am On Nov 01, 2015 |
Niggas laying claims on tribes while the original people are sleeping. I call that midnight robbing. Opobo,egbema,bonny and Ndoki are all Igbo lands. Niggas really can't sleep cos of Igbo matter. 6 Likes |
Re: NDOKI'S ARE NOT Ijaw---barcasinta And Other Ijaws Mind Yourselves by Vicotex(m): 2:04am On Nov 01, 2015 |
Truckpusher:just like the way you said biafra need ur oyel. A dey laff your ignorance 2 Likes
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Re: NDOKI'S ARE NOT Ijaw---barcasinta And Other Ijaws Mind Yourselves by ROYALD(m): 2:18am On Nov 01, 2015 |
Ijaw wants to claim the ndoki people 3 Likes
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Re: NDOKI'S ARE NOT Ijaw---barcasinta And Other Ijaws Mind Yourselves by Vicotex(m): 2:20am On Nov 01, 2015 |
ROYALD:i tire 4 dem. Dem try egbema e no work, try opobo/bonny e no work, now na ndoki turn 3 Likes |
Re: NDOKI'S ARE NOT Ijaw---barcasinta And Other Ijaws Mind Yourselves by Nobody: 3:36am On Nov 01, 2015 |
Truckpusher:sorry I didn't know u were this stupidd 2 Likes |
Re: NDOKI'S ARE NOT Ijaw---barcasinta And Other Ijaws Mind Yourselves by Nobody: 7:08am On Nov 01, 2015 |
TonyeBarcanista: Good morning brother. You should allow the Ndoki people to do their thing. My parish last year went to empathise with a brother who had lost the dad at Ndoki. All I saw there were people of Igbo language, culture and behaviour. Till these recent days here, I've never heard from anyone close to me in any form that the Ndoki people are Ijaws. I've never read or anywhere. Thanks for the link though. But I believe you're acting like you're cocksure where the Ndokis will stand in the case of a secession. Are you an Ndoki indigene? Allow this matter to be. Quit it. 11 Likes 1 Share |
Re: NDOKI'S ARE NOT Ijaw---barcasinta And Other Ijaws Mind Yourselves by Nobody: 7:10am On Nov 01, 2015 |
TonyeBarcanista: Since the people know their history, let them be. Please let them be. This is one of worst days on this forum. 1 Like |
Re: NDOKI'S ARE NOT Ijaw---barcasinta And Other Ijaws Mind Yourselves by Nobody: 7:15am On Nov 01, 2015 |
Truckpusher: My stand is this. Deeply within my recess I do not approve the modus operandi by which Nnamdi Kanu champions the Biafra Cause. Aside from that, I do have no qualms with any group of people who want to determine their destinies. I agree I'm not too smart in our ethnic history like you and Tonyebarcanista are- I'll have to do some digging here. LOL! And I believe there are some sorts of information you are privy to. Seriously, I'm yet to SEE any expansionist idea from the Igbos. I'm yet to see. Fro the records it's being over 5 years I stopped pleasing people. I'm done with that sir. Whenever you dey around, PM be and let's talk this issue one on one. Happy new month, and may God guide us aright. 1 Like |
Re: NDOKI'S ARE NOT Ijaw---barcasinta And Other Ijaws Mind Yourselves by FreeGlobe(f): 7:20am On Nov 01, 2015 |
TonyeBarcanista:so this idiot still believes ndoki are ijaws after all the education he got here. you must be a nutcase 2 Likes |
Re: NDOKI'S ARE NOT Ijaw---barcasinta And Other Ijaws Mind Yourselves by FreeGlobe(f): 7:33am On Nov 01, 2015 |
TonyeBarcanista:you are not only stupid, you are unintelligent. stop brandishing your fake blog stories here as authoritative source. Going by your statement here it's obvious you are not intelligent. Ndoki does not have any relationship with ijaw. Ndoki are 100% igbo. if your aim is to annex ndoki then you are wasting your time. Ndoki answer igbo names, bear igbo titles, speak igbo. How then are they ijaws? There is even no need to be arguing this with you but you need to stop deceiving people. Any one who wants to know about ndoki people can do so themselves 5 Likes |
Re: NDOKI'S ARE NOT Ijaw---barcasinta And Other Ijaws Mind Yourselves by FreeGlobe(f): 7:41am On Nov 01, 2015 |
Truckpusher:why are you people these foolish? I lived in ph for donkey years, I still have Etche and Ikwerre friends who are proudly igbos. wasn't it Amaechi who announced during the campaign that he is igbo? I don't know what you and that barcanista fellow are trying to achieve with these foolish statements but you guys should quit it already. Nobody is buying it. When biafra happens, all part of igboland in Rivers State will join Biafra. You can cry all you want and it won't change a thing. 5 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: NDOKI'S ARE NOT Ijaw---barcasinta And Other Ijaws Mind Yourselves by TonyeBarcanista(m): 7:51am On Nov 01, 2015 |
dearpreye:Good morning to you! I never spoke for any Ndoki but only brandished what they believe is their ancestry from their own source. Neither links are mine. My own is to educate people and share information. I NEVER said the Ndoki's are 'Ijaw speaking', even the links I provided to you recognised that they speak Igbo language, which is influenced by some factors. I am NOT speaking for Ndoki brothers, I'm only saying that they recognise their ancestry which is the Ijaw. I want to repeat that I am not saying Ndoki in Abia will/wont go with Igbo Biafra(it's their choice) and I'm not even too concerned. Irrespective, it never changed the fact that they are Ijaws. Fortunately, the Ndokis in Rivers are more conscious of their Ijawness (from my own judgement). Pls next time you visit Ndoki, pay a visit to the monarch or an informed elder or get in touch with their Youth Group and probe their ancestry. Thanks.. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: NDOKI'S ARE NOT Ijaw---barcasinta And Other Ijaws Mind Yourselves by ishiamu(m): 7:53am On Nov 01, 2015 |
TonyeBarcanista: You claim your wise and still get into arguments to prolong issues still drawing hatred. If you where wise you will ignore all this thread, you know your stand why stress yourself? Only at the end shall who is who be known. You dey annoy me when I see your still in ethnic thread. |
Re: NDOKI'S ARE NOT Ijaw---barcasinta And Other Ijaws Mind Yourselves by TonyeBarcanista(m): 7:55am On Nov 01, 2015 |
dearpreye:Give this advice to your friends that have been disturbing my mention over this for some days now not me. As for me, I believe in the right of everyone to self-determination. I am not interested in arguing over this. Your comment actually made me respond 3 Likes |
Re: NDOKI'S ARE NOT Ijaw---barcasinta And Other Ijaws Mind Yourselves by Owliver(m): 7:57am On Nov 01, 2015 |
TonyeBarcanista:Enough. they speak, dress and behave igbo yet you keep hammering them to be ijaws. rest your case na 7 Likes |
Re: NDOKI'S ARE NOT Ijaw---barcasinta And Other Ijaws Mind Yourselves by ishiamu(m): 7:58am On Nov 01, 2015 |
TonyeBarcanista: You not interested in arguing you keep replying? What does that simplify then? Keep saying trash I wonder someone won't speak for himself you making careless argument, man you need think ooo, the ethnic threads will keep going on and they will keep mentioning you all you got to do to end it is ignore their mentions they will get tired that's it |
Re: NDOKI'S ARE NOT Ijaw---barcasinta And Other Ijaws Mind Yourselves by Owliver(m): 8:00am On Nov 01, 2015 |
By the way am from edo state and i support biafra 100%. if Nigeria breaks i wish them to collect all them lands for everywhere and if Edo and yoruba states decides to stay with the gambaris i will jejely port to Anambra or mayb enugu Let this people go 3 Likes |
Re: NDOKI'S ARE NOT Ijaw---barcasinta And Other Ijaws Mind Yourselves by Truckpusher(m): 8:03am On Nov 01, 2015 |
FreeGlobe:Keep on deceiving yourselves. The worst thing that can happen to any man is self deceit - You've got no one to blame for your woes except yourself. 3 Likes |
Re: NDOKI'S ARE NOT Ijaw---barcasinta And Other Ijaws Mind Yourselves by kemback2220003: 8:10am On Nov 01, 2015 |
Why all these identity fight, deep dowm In our hearts we all know who we are, before Nigeria, there has been igbo, housa and yoruba. |
Re: NDOKI'S ARE NOT Ijaw---barcasinta And Other Ijaws Mind Yourselves by FreeGlobe(f): 8:20am On Nov 01, 2015 |
Truckpusher:You are the person deceiving yourselves by making outlandish statements to justify your nonsense. How can a sane person say there is no Ikwerre or Etche person that will tell you they are igbo? You are telling that to someone that has never lived in Ikwerre. As I'm typing now, I have an Ikwerre friend with me. Even on nairaland, EzePromoe an Ikwerre is proudly igbo. Keep typing nonsense with your cronies hopeathand and TonyeBarcanista thinking it will change anything. When the time comes we will see what you can do about it. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: NDOKI'S ARE NOT Ijaw---barcasinta And Other Ijaws Mind Yourselves by Truckpusher(m): 8:24am On Nov 01, 2015 |
FreeGlobe:Go ahead and deceive yourselves by yourselves. 1 Like |
Re: NDOKI'S ARE NOT Ijaw---barcasinta And Other Ijaws Mind Yourselves by FreeGlobe(f): 8:28am On Nov 01, 2015 |
Truckpusher:yes, believe whatever you want but keep your nonsense to yourself. 5 Likes |
Re: NDOKI'S ARE NOT Ijaw---barcasinta And Other Ijaws Mind Yourselves by Nobody: 8:36am On Nov 01, 2015 |
TonyeBarcanista: Happy November, my brother. |
Re: NDOKI'S ARE NOT Ijaw---barcasinta And Other Ijaws Mind Yourselves by Truckpusher(m): 8:37am On Nov 01, 2015 |
FreeGlobe:Why are you guys always bitter, angry and always abusing or using vulgar languages on anyone who doesn't run along with your erroneous information ? When people abuse and curse to send out their message - it simply show that they themselves are already seeing their falsehood crumbling before it gathers momentum hence the anger and disappointment and the curse follows rapidly....smh 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: NDOKI'S ARE NOT Ijaw---barcasinta And Other Ijaws Mind Yourselves by Nobody: 8:39am On Nov 01, 2015 |
TonyeBarcanista: On your last paragraph, I've got a lot more important things to do with my time than go around asking a people about their ancestry. This is not an issue to ME. 1 Like |
Re: NDOKI'S ARE NOT Ijaw---barcasinta And Other Ijaws Mind Yourselves by HopeAtHand: 8:51am On Nov 01, 2015 |
[/quote][quote author=FreeGlobe post=39569308] You have attended early morning mass in your Catholic church and have decided i should miss worship in my Anglican church, else how can one explain the basis for your arguments this morning. Please, the Igbos should respect the fact that a people wish to be addressed as whatever they chose..if you like, say my great grand parents migrated from your village, no problem.but as it is presently, i am Ikwerre, it is my new identity and you cannot change it..the worst you can do is learn to live with it. I will say a prayer today in church for you, that you gladly accept things you cant change and thereby live long.Amen 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: NDOKI'S ARE NOT Ijaw---barcasinta And Other Ijaws Mind Yourselves by kaboninc(m): 8:56am On Nov 01, 2015 |
THE BRIEF HISTORICAL ORIGIN OF NDOKI ETHNIC NATIONALITY AND THE CREATION OF UKWA EAST LOCAL GOVERNMENT AREA. 1. Tracing the origin of a people to the outbreak of a civil war of the Bini Empire (kingdom) implies that the people were originally of the Bini ancestry. However, today, they have a kind of language, tradition, customs and cultures that is very different from the Binis. This in itself makes the assertion (the origin) faulty. It rather should be that the people initially migrated to the kingdom, either to settle or for commerce and they must have come from somewhere. Else, there would be traces of evidence of the people of Ndoki - as their ancestral home - in the kingdom. 2. It is evident that the migration of the Ndokis coincided with the Ijos taking special consideration of the word: linked. A people that is ancestrally linked to another ethnic group will be so if the ancestors of both ethnic group intermarry or by another means among themselves. It cannot be the same if today, both ethnic group have no language in common, culture in common, custom in come, tradition in common and beliefs in common and not any resemblance in anything in common. Granted that an ethnic group may have some language interference with other languages due to trade, or any other activity, the Ijos and Ndokis have no semblance in language. It should then follow that the Ijos migrated together with the Ndokis in the said civil war of the old Bini Kingdom. It can also be said that those (Ndokis) who migrated with the Ijos were infact not the aboriginal Ndokis and the civil war gave them the opportunity to come together in a particular territory to give birth to an ancestral home. It can also be said that there were other Ijos living outside the kingdom as at the time the civil war broke out. Finally, it can be said that there is a place called Ndoki which houses the Igbos and the Ijos somewhere in Abia, Rivers and Akwa Ibom States. We must understand that political interest has caused so much division so much that history becomes distorted and lies, opinions become facts. We all know that the Ndokis have a large expanse of land that encompasses Abia, Rivers and Akwa Ibom States. The most notable city of the Ndoki is Obigbo in Rivers State. It should also be noted that today's configuration is a highly flawed arrangement that seeks to malign the territory of an ethnic group against their wish and in the interest of another for whatever purpose. Sadly, this expansionist program is still ongoing. Else, how come a group of people who do not speak your language (have no word at all in similarity), do not share any custom and tradition, do not share any belief, do not share any communal value be said to be of the Ijos? Even the writer of that piece bears an Igbo name. I have always maintained that decisions, motivations and actions like this are determined because of the interest at stake and this time it is oil! The truth is that there is no credible individual that can be looked up to who will champion the cause of Biafra. Nnamdi Kanu only succeeded in bringing up that question of "what's in for us?" "Are we in any way benefiting from this present arrangement?" "Is it best for us to have our own country?" A whole lot of other ethnic folks stand to lose should the Biafran dream come true and that is why there is a collective agreement between other ethnic groups against the dream of a Biafran State and to be honest, the North stand to be the first casualty. Next is the Ijaws, Urhobos and Ishekiri as there will be so much in-fighting among various interest groups and warlords and another civil war capable of destroying the entire area. Even the Biafran State will not be spared of the drama of discord among themselves as it is well known that the Igbos naturally do not do well in a collective arrangement. That was the foresight of GEJ. However, I have always advocated for a united country using our diversity as our greatest strength. That has always been my position and will always be my position. We can have a federal system of government, with semi-independent state but united as a country. For those saying the Igbos voted GEJ because they have an interest should note that politics is all about interests. If the Igbos voted GEJ, it could be because they find in him one who can see to their interests and there is no known discontent between the Ijaws and the Igbos (unlike the Hausa/Fulani and the Igbos) before now. You go to who can consider your interest and not one who you already have some form of mutual suspicion, hatred and bitterness. During his presidency, President Jonathan has always maintained in so many times, in so may ways, in so many forums that the unity of Nigeria is sacrosanct and he cannot and will never see to the division of Nigerian and that was his message to the delegates of the National Conference. In addition, the Afenifere also supported the candidacy of President Jonathan - they had their interest and felt amongst all the contestants, President Jonathan is more likely to see to it. The Arewas voted for President Buhari too and because they also felt that their interest will be better handled in the hands of President Buhari than the other contestants. Even President Buhari shared these same sentiments about interests when he was discussing about the constituency that gave the most votes and those who didn't. If we really noticed, the Ijaws had no specific interest during the last election. Lastly, this whole drama has really shown to us who our real friends are. |
Re: NDOKI'S ARE NOT Ijaw---barcasinta And Other Ijaws Mind Yourselves by Dhugal: 9:11am On Nov 01, 2015 |
dearpreye:Barcanista or whatever you call him,is not smart in any history. Remember the days of the Midwest Report on Biafran Invasion that he posted here as evidence of Igbo "atrocities" during the war?.He got schooled by me n others. The guy is fond of pulling out madeup stories from his arse and passing them off as "facts" to the ignorant and the gullible.A blog is his evidence of Ijaw ancestry of Ndoki,you fuckin kidding me?.Even at that,he couldn't even comprehend the grammar used therein.How does migrating WITH,from the Benin empire,as postulated by his blog "evidence",equate being founded BY?.His education is sorely lacking,one can see. 2 Likes 1 Share |
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