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Re: What The NNPC And The FG Would Never Tell You About The Kaduna Refinery by ToyinDipo(m): 11:47am On Dec 22, 2015
Even if we have to import crude oil from Venezuela and refine it locally, it will still be more profitable than importing refined oil. Also why lay a refinery to waste, when it can still serve some purposes.

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Re: What The NNPC And The FG Would Never Tell You About The Kaduna Refinery by Kennydoc(m): 11:47am On Dec 22, 2015
RockMaxi:

What is our problem in this country? We are the same set of people asking the govt to repair, now they have done that we are still shouting that the refinery is analogue based. Will the government be able to give a digitally controlled refinery that will equally satisfied those conditions under 7months.
I think criticism should be constructive and not otherwise.
The OP actually have some mischief up his sleeves when posting this article.

There is a second part of the article. I don't know if the man was saying the truth:
....said the Kaduna refinery has bad features, which are never discussed, especially the fact that Nigeria would have to import heavy crude from Venezuela to refine at the facility, because the country’s light crude is incompatible with the refinery’s technology.


What do you say about that?

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Re: What The NNPC And The FG Would Never Tell You About The Kaduna Refinery by slimfit1(m): 11:51am On Dec 22, 2015
dazdilijae:


If you have the patience to waste 2 years many others certainly don't.
If we ve to wait for 2years to complain what would we do in the remaining 2years


We have just wasted 5 years mr man

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Re: What The NNPC And The FG Would Never Tell You About The Kaduna Refinery by henryhemon(m): 11:51am On Dec 22, 2015
The Op,
Is definitely an anti pmb but I have seen constructive critics from genuine concern Nigerians which I concur with not what the op is posting,when you constructively criticize people will listen to you but when it is based on hatred and sentiments it won't make sense and no one will be willing to listen.

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Re: What The NNPC And The FG Would Never Tell You About The Kaduna Refinery by ariesbull: 11:52am On Dec 22, 2015
Thus making Nigeria a fuckedd up country
Re: What The NNPC And The FG Would Never Tell You About The Kaduna Refinery by slimfit1(m): 11:54am On Dec 22, 2015
Sweetguy25:


He has every right to complain even if its 3 weeks into Buhari's government.

Well we are about to make the sacrifices we didn't make years ago the grass will suffer we are the grass. When people are looting money we didn't talk now we are complaining when a lot of money needs to be saved.

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Re: What The NNPC And The FG Would Never Tell You About The Kaduna Refinery by rusher14: 11:58am On Dec 22, 2015
cizy post=41236848 :
Blame Buhari because he built that ancient of days during his time as a petroleum minister under the world most corrupt dictator Abacha
. It appears, that Buhari, due to his looting capacity and lack of fore site constructed that stone age crap which was listed as one of his useless achievements.


But I won't be surprised if some morônic sycopate blame the refinery wahala on GEJ..

Lol.

Buhari Minister of Petroleum under Abacha??

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Re: What The NNPC And The FG Would Never Tell You About The Kaduna Refinery by Chubhie: 11:59am On Dec 22, 2015
slimfit1:


It's just 7 months old mr man complain after 2 years.

From the smell of fart you get to know the quality of what to expect. With PMB position and body language, He is set to nuke Nigerians to hades before 2 years. He MUST be stopped!
Re: What The NNPC And The FG Would Never Tell You About The Kaduna Refinery by slimfit1(m): 12:00pm On Dec 22, 2015
Chubhie:


From the smell of fart you get to know the quality of what to expect. With PMB position and body language he is set to nuke Nigerians to hades before 2 years. He MUST be stopped!

Do you have an answer to the problem?

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Re: What The NNPC And The FG Would Never Tell You About The Kaduna Refinery by tope777(m): 12:02pm On Dec 22, 2015
idu1:
you don't know what you are talking. PDP spent 16 year without anything tangible to show for it.... APC just took over and you hear writing trash.


Do you ve conscious at all

shocked.. PDP gave you phone you are using+ strong base economy.
Moreover, the APC party members are not saint from heaven but combination of same PDP and others grin shocked

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Re: What The NNPC And The FG Would Never Tell You About The Kaduna Refinery by holaralph(m): 12:03pm On Dec 22, 2015
Have been expecting this type of news from either Tribune, Guardian or Vanguard Newspaper......... I know they will surely come out with some deceitful and discrediting informations about the kaduna Refinery......... I know Some jackals that will never see anything good and that are never ready to enjoy anything good in this country will start eating the carcass of this discrediting News.......... Nigeria and Her Uneasy to please people
Re: What The NNPC And The FG Would Never Tell You About The Kaduna Refinery by Nobody: 12:04pm On Dec 22, 2015
grin grin....The north must also refine oil by force...Make I laugh small..can they just concentrate on the refineries in warri and ph so that we can look ahead...probably build new ones in bayelsa and akwa ibom too...
Re: What The NNPC And The FG Would Never Tell You About The Kaduna Refinery by MizMyColi(f): 12:06pm On Dec 22, 2015
ToyinDipo:
Even if we have to import crude oil from Venezuela and refine it locally, it will still be more profitable than importing refined oil. Also why lay a refinery to waste, when it can still serve some purposes.

Also, why lay better refineries to waste when they can still serve even better purpose.

Think!undecided

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Re: What The NNPC And The FG Would Never Tell You About The Kaduna Refinery by Chubhie: 12:07pm On Dec 22, 2015
slimfit1:

Do you have an answer to the problem?
Is someone elected and paid with tax payers money to do a job?
Re: What The NNPC And The FG Would Never Tell You About The Kaduna Refinery by Anasko(m): 12:09pm On Dec 22, 2015
this news is crap. did you mean that kaduna refinery is not refining nigeria"s crude oil since its inception? how can a refinery built base on foreign crude oil. this story get a k-leg

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Re: What The NNPC And The FG Would Never Tell You About The Kaduna Refinery by ToyinDipo(m): 12:15pm On Dec 22, 2015
MizMyColi:


Also, why lay better refineries to waste when they can still serve even better purpose.

Think!undecided

I guess you don't understand what I meant, I will retype it, but slowly this time. I was just saying I am against people castigating the FG for rehabilitating the refinery, because they felt it can't refine our light oil. Knowing that it can still serve some purposes. Which is more cost effective between making a product from purchased raw materials, and buying already made product?

By the way, how is the FG purposely laying to waste any refinery?

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Re: What The NNPC And The FG Would Never Tell You About The Kaduna Refinery by Eruditor: 12:17pm On Dec 22, 2015
NavierStokes:


Exactly my response to the guy, a refinery can refine heavy crude oil and you want to feed it with Nigeria's bonny light crude oil, how on earth is it supposed to work. This is just another avenue to meet the Kachikwu's December deadline and make a case why the refineries should not be sold off. Trust me a shortwhile from now we will hear about refineries operating at 1% efficiency. We want this country to work, but some people are hell bent on calling others wailers even in scenarios where we see our very scarce resources going bananas and being allocated to fruitless ventures. The case of 37billion to be spent on oil exploration in the lake chad basin comes to mind, at a time when many Major oil companies are cutting losses by writing off certain investments (Conoco wrote off over 400million dollars invested on a drillship, shell wrote off the canadian tar sands projects, While Nigerian government that claims to be broke and does not have money for cash calls on already explored projects is spending 37billion for desert exploration).

The issue is that people like you who are not in the know are making hollow posts and generalizations and passing them off as fact.

When do you think the world will stop requiring energy from fossil fuels? When do you think oil will become extraneous to energy generation? Keep wailing and misleading yourself.

How many refineries worldwide refine light crude? What is Dr. Ibe Kachikwu's plans for the refineries and how does he plan to actualize it?

If you know the answers to the questions you won't have posted this nonsense.
Re: What The NNPC And The FG Would Never Tell You About The Kaduna Refinery by Nobody: 12:17pm On Dec 22, 2015
from NNPC website :

KRPC LIMITED is in the business of refining crude oil into high quality petroleum products and the manufacturing of petrochemical and packaging products to the satisfaction of her customers

The refinery was designed to process both imported paraffinic and Nigerian crude oils into fuels and lubes products and was constructed by Chiyoda Chemical Engineering and Construction Company (now Chiyoda Corporation) of Japan. In December 1986, the design capacity of the fuels plants of the Refinery was successfully increased from 50,000 BPSD to 60,000 BPSD, bringing the total refinery installed capacity to 110,000 BPSD.

http://www.nnpcgroup.com/nnpcbusiness/subsidiaries/krpc.aspx

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Re: What The NNPC And The FG Would Never Tell You About The Kaduna Refinery by irondome: 12:18pm On Dec 22, 2015
Sweetguy25:
It is an obsolete refinery that cannot function efficiently and effectively any longer.

Excerpts:


http://www.ngrguardiannews.com/2015/10/why-fg-should-scrap-kaduna-refinery/

cc: lalasticlala



Lazy and suspicious journalism. For instance, readers wou loved to know:

1. Why our analogue refinery can't refine our light crude.
2. The name of the component referred to in the article.
3. Why build multi-billion naira refinery for a blend of crude we do not have?

The entire report appeared sponsored. Let's wait and see sha. In between, am not too bullish on this news as we still need over 20 of this refinery to serve our daily consumption. And if power supply improves, we may need far less pms per day

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Re: What The NNPC And The FG Would Never Tell You About The Kaduna Refinery by Eruditor: 12:19pm On Dec 22, 2015
cizy:
Blame Buhari because he built that ancient of days during his time as a petroleum minister under the world most corrupt dictator Abacha. It appears, that Buhari, due to his looting capacity and lack of fore site constructed that stone age crap which was listed as one of his useless achievements.


But I won't be surprised if some morônic sycopate blame the refinery wahala on GEJ..

Ignoramus on the loose! PMB built refineries under Abacha's govt? LMAO!

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Re: What The NNPC And The FG Would Never Tell You About The Kaduna Refinery by darlenese(f): 12:20pm On Dec 22, 2015
grin grin grin grin angry
Re: What The NNPC And The FG Would Never Tell You About The Kaduna Refinery by mfm04622: 12:22pm On Dec 22, 2015
Sweetguy25:
It is an obsolete refinery that cannot function efficiently and effectively any longer.

Excerpts:


http://www.ngrguardiannews.com/2015/10/why-fg-should-scrap-kaduna-refinery/

cc: lalasticlala


What kind of nonsense is this? Kaduna Refinery was designed to refine heavy crude! How is that bad? The only wrong thing is that t Refinery should have been sited on the coast since we import it's feedstock. Kaduna refinery was not meant to refine Nigerian crude from design!

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Re: What The NNPC And The FG Would Never Tell You About The Kaduna Refinery by jayloms: 12:23pm On Dec 22, 2015
[quote author=Sweetguy25 post=41235362][/quote]
Are you implying that KRPC was never operational?
Re: What The NNPC And The FG Would Never Tell You About The Kaduna Refinery by MizMyColi(f): 12:23pm On Dec 22, 2015
ToyinDipo:


I guess you don't understand what I meant, I will retype it, but slowly this time. I was just saying I am against people castigating the FG for rehabilitating the refinery, because they felt it can't refine our light oil. Knowing that it can still serve some purposes. Which is more cost effective between making a product from purchased raw materials, and buying already made product?

By the way, how is the FG purposely laying to waste any refinery?

All we are saying is, instead of having to import crude, which btw, we already have here in Nigeria, why not use the funds to power a refinery that can process our kind of crude instead of importing again.
Isn't the aim to ensure that Nigeria reduces imports to the barest minimum?

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Re: What The NNPC And The FG Would Never Tell You About The Kaduna Refinery by Niceiroko: 12:25pm On Dec 22, 2015
Do you take water as food
slimfit1:


It's just 7 months old mr man complain after 2 years.
Re: What The NNPC And The FG Would Never Tell You About The Kaduna Refinery by mfm04622: 12:26pm On Dec 22, 2015
Anasko:
this news is crap. did you mean that kaduna refinery is not refining nigeria"s crude oil since its inception? how can a refinery built base on foreign crude oil. this story get a k-leg

The refinery have been refining heavy crude. It was designed like that for Nigeria to get raw materials we can't get from refining our light crude. Nothing wrong with that except th location in t interior instead of the coast
Re: What The NNPC And The FG Would Never Tell You About The Kaduna Refinery by samofson: 12:27pm On Dec 22, 2015
Abeg they should come out and tell us the truth. The people refining crude oil in illegal refineries in the creeks of the niger delta are those refineries digital

The fact is that it has never been cost effective to refine crude in kaduna due to its location. It's 100's of km away from the source and even if it's not compatible with our crude which is a fat lie, u will still need to transport the imported crude from lagos or pH to KD making it too expensive.

Let's be frank building a refinery in KD was a bad idea and it will be difficult to sell off because it will not give the owner any profits.

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Re: What The NNPC And The FG Would Never Tell You About The Kaduna Refinery by johnmartus(m): 12:27pm On Dec 22, 2015
FAKE NEWS USELESS JOURNALIST WE ARE NOT SILLY THIS PRESENT ADMINISTRATION IS QUIETLY DIFFERENT FROM JONATHAN FRAUDULENT GOVERNMENT
Re: What The NNPC And The FG Would Never Tell You About The Kaduna Refinery by Jwonder(m): 12:29pm On Dec 22, 2015
ToyinDipo:
Even if we have to import crude oil from Venezuela and refine it locally, it will still be more profitable than importing refined oil. Also why lay a refinery to waste, when it can still serve some purposes.

why not leave the Kaduna refinery and focus on the Port Harcourt own.
Re: What The NNPC And The FG Would Never Tell You About The Kaduna Refinery by mfm04622: 12:29pm On Dec 22, 2015
MizMyColi:


All we are saying is, instead of having to import crude, which btw, we already have here in Nigeria, why not use the funds to power a refinery that can process our kind of crude instead of importing again.
Isn't the aim to ensure that Nigeria reduces imports to the barest minimum?

Refineries produce more than PMS and AGO. They also produce other petrochemicals that can be used as raw materials for other things. For now, w import such things instead of producing them at Kaduna Refinery

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Re: What The NNPC And The FG Would Never Tell You About The Kaduna Refinery by Nobody: 12:30pm On Dec 22, 2015
idu1:
you don't know what you are talking. PDP spent 16 year without anything tangible to show for it.... APC just took over and you hear writing trash.


Do you ve conscious at all

Presently unconscious.
Re: What The NNPC And The FG Would Never Tell You About The Kaduna Refinery by mfm04622: 12:31pm On Dec 22, 2015
NavierStokes:


Mr man did you read where they said the refineries would be able to refine heavy crude, or do we start importing venezuelan orinoco grade crude to feed our refineries.
Whatever is worth doing is worth doing well, they should save whatever amount and invest in the warri and port harcourt refineries that are designed to refine the BLCO.

No be today we day import for that refinery.

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