₦airaland Forum

Dat2jo:
I was born a muslim and to people around me I'm still a muslim cos I can not openly renounce islam to avoid getting killed (I stay in the North). My brother no true muslim will condemn what the preacher said cos that's what the quaran teaches. Islam is violent

ashpanez:
2dominate,.... U have said it all. It's pointless band s waste big time and energy arguing with somebody whose mind is made up on finding fault in christianity. He will even create one if he can't find any fault.

It's really a waste of time

Mikecold:
That's not an insult

If someone feels he doesn't have the brain capacity to engage in a debate he should decline

Those childish talk without reference to why it is made should not be joined on my mention

I made no mistake and you can't blackmail me into accepting your bias outside the obvious evidences we are supposed to restrict our selves to

Samunique:
ANTICHRISTIAN, Pls show us in the Quran where Muhammad/Allah said it was Ishmael that was to be sacrificed or keep silent forever.

If the Bible comes out plainly on this subject and Quran does not, in a matter as serious as this, an event that Muslims emulate all over the world by slaughtering rams, don't you think that something is fishy?

How can Allah revealed almost all things to Muhammad, giving him the mother of all books, ( according to Muslims belief ) and then omitted one of the very important aspects of Muslims faith, reducing it to hearsays and speculations, that the Muslims have to rely on Addiths and other sources like the Bible which they claim has been corrupted ?

If your Quran cannot authoritatively tells us the name of the son that was to be sacrificed, don't you think it's better to keep quiet ?

How can Allah ask you to sacrifice rams every year without telling you categorically the name of the Son that was to be sacrificed?

This is just one amongst many defects of Islam !

terrezo2002:
Failure is when you are on a top speed in a wrong direction. So much knowledge in false information. What a pity!

Nktessy:
Whatever be the reason for their sack. Their time is up. U can now employ them. Thank you.

Kingsnairaland:
The Prophet reportedly sometimes demands the death penalty for apostasy, the most obvious example of this being the hadith, "Whoever changes his religion, kill him" (Bukhari, Sahih, 9, 84, hadith 57). Such problematic texts are outweighed by the bulk of the texts and instruction provided by the two most important authorities in Islam, the Qur'an and the Prophet Muhammad's actual practice. Both are remarkably supportive of the idea of individual and personal religious freedom.

FarahAideed:
This one only has mouth when he sees christians ...I have never heard him try to criticize Buhari or Bandit or Boko Haram or Islam

MaxInDHouse:
Thanks for your time.
I really appreciate!

MaxInDHouse:
Do you know JWs in your area?
Please find one of my brothers, just tell them you met a guy on Nairaland with the username "Maximus" and continue with him.
Anywhere you find a JW don't mind his/her attitude that's human nature since we live in the flesh all of us have shortcomings but the wisdom of God makes the difference because only God's people are blessed with the truth.

We don't need books! What we need is someone in our area with whom we can both share what we know face to face.

If you know any Islamic group that has what you want me to understand about your God just tell me the name of that group i'll find one of them and continue from where we stopped.
As for what i know please approach any JW in your neighbourhood make sure that he's truly a practicing JWs!

MaxInDHouse:
Of course God's qualities are more than this four but this are his four major attributes!



Fine so let's now go into what our different religions teaches us about God in the light of the qualities, since we both agreed qualities the true God must possess.

So can you briefly tell me what your God said about the beginning of creation and how we got to this stage where life has become so unbearable for billions throughout the world?

MaxInDHouse:
@2dominate

If you agree on these four qualities about the God you know from infancy then we can proceed to the next stage which is:

How did we get here?
What is God's purpose for creating us here?

Please try to include those four qualities how they are related to the God you know while telling us about His purposes!

MaxInDHouse:
@2dominate

If you agree on these four qualities about the God you know from infancy then we can proceed to the next stage which is:

How did we get here?
What is God's purpose for creating us here?

Please try to include those four qualities how they are related to the God you know while telling us about His purposes!

Faber:
God can bring you to meet ur missing rib at those aforementioned places. E dey happen and e still dey happen.

People marry cool wives even from brothels...some people are into one or two shit cos of one or two family quagmires and poverty.

Remember in the Holy writ... YAHWEH admonished prophet Hosea to marry a LovePeddler... If Baba God commanded his prophet to marry a LovePeddler...

Who are you mere mortal under Buhari misrule to judge me if a marry from a brothel

MaxInDHouse:
Whatever you and i beleive about those two Easterners are irrelevant for now!

I told you that i'm already an atheist before JWs began building my faith in God again, so you can't place anything on the foundation JWs built, neither can i place anything on the foundation Islam built in your heart.
Therefore we have to start from the beginning.

Who is God and what are His undisputable attributes?

Let's start from there before going into any of the so called Abrahamic religions.

Adam, Eve, Noah, Abraham, Moses or Jesus are all characters found in books written by people from the East. Please let's talk about what you and i perceive whenever we hear the noun "GOD"


But before we proceed i would like to inform you that i believe in jesus as to be a prophet of God and that he did not die on the cross but lived 120 years on earth.

MaxInDHouse:
Good!

Sorry that i placed your conviction one after the other, so prepare your mind ready for thought provoking questions on the highlighted because that's our difference now!

I don't believe Muhammad has anything to do with the true God and you also don't believe Jesus' death makes any sense regarding salvation.

So both of us must calmly reason deeply on the two, no need to be biased because neither Jesus nor Muhammad is our family they're both from the East!
Yeah that will be nice,
But before we proceed i would like to inform you that i believe in jesus as to be a prophet of God and that he did not die on the cross but lived 120 years on earth.

MaxInDHouse:
Before going into any book i'll like to know your views about ONE God!

Will God accept contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines all in His name?

MaxInDHouse:
Before going into any book i'll like to know your views about ONE God!

Will God accept contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines all in His name?

MaxInDHouse:
I have read lots and lots of books about religion my friend, i've come to discover that you only accept what the authors penned down when it soothes your mindset. But it's when you're able to convince your audience one on one that proves you truly understand what you claim to believe.
The author of such books will not be present when i want to ask questions regarding what is written in the book, will be?
So if you believe the book please go and read it then prepare to discuss with me because i'm going to ask questions the same way i did when the JWs came with their Bibles and publications.

MaxInDHouse:
I so much love Islam not because i was born in the religion because it makes perfect sense to me while i was growing. No matter the situation i find myself as a teenager back then nothing can make me follow them to church because everything this people does irritates me.
©They can't worship in the same place.
©They're always disturbing both day and night
©They say their God is three in one and you must beleive (trust) such saying or you'll go to Hellfire.
And so many nonsense and ingredients.
So i was contented with Islam not until i began noticing contradictions in Islam as well!
Then i want to know which of the various sects in Islam is practicing true Islam. I don't want to judge the Christians then cover the same thing in Islam. But to my shocking surprise Islam is even worse!
Because there is no unique standard for morals as each person can just develop his own and what brings us all together is the five pillars. I concluded that the so called five pillars is just like the TRINITY in Christianity that brought different sects together under the same roof.

I began contemplating atheism but before i settled for ATHEISM i decided to talk to God on my own so one faithful day i prayed without using any name peculiar to any sect i just called God and said:

"i've heard from so many people that you're real and i want to believe so, but can you just give me a sign or just anything to prove that you're hearing me right now? I'll give you few days and if i find no response i'll believe you're just a myth"

And that was it.

The very next thing i keep seeing are JWs coming to disturb me even while i'm trying to quickly do chop and clean mouth for some yanriyan in my neighborhood!

This people kept coming even when i'm in my place of work where i sell things as a salesboy!

I remember a day i was trying to remove the bra of a girl who was struggling with me saying we should wait until we're married before i can just lick her nipples, then there was a knock on my door!
I was so annoyed that i had to slam the door at the JW who wanted to start talking when i opened to see who the hell has come to disturb my hunting!

Then i told the girl to go but then she noticed a sudden change in my mood, now she's ready to give me all her body but the feelings is no more there. I drove her out of my room with anger and begin meditating what i should do to this so called JWs when they come around next time. But then i remembered my prayer!
Because right from my birth till the day i prayed i never noticed this people. So i asked "God do this good for nothing people has anything to do with my last prayer"

So i decided to listen when next they're around. When they came not more than five days later i never listened to all that the young lady was saying, i just go straight to my question. "Are we all worshiping the same God?" I noticed she hesitate to answer so i told her i'm not going to be annoyed all i want is the truth. Then she uttered for the first time since i was born that we are not worshiping the same God!

And that's it! One thing led to another and i began studying with them until i started changing little by little till i decided to become one of them!

MaxInDHouse:
YES! Jesus is totally different from God who sent him.

As for the reason why i became one of JWs well that's a long story but let's me summarize it by saying i was searching for the one and only group worshiping the true God.

I believe that God is one so if God is one then those worshiping Him must worship Him in the same way {John 4:24} and in the same line of thought! John 17:20-23

MaxInDHouse:
I purposely included that after checking your profile and knowing you practice my former religion. I know what the Arabs in collaboration with the Jews are trying to propagate regarding Jesus of Nazareth that's why i quickly inserted that to show you that you shouldn't think all the antagonists you're seeing on this thread have anything tangible against me other than their denial of God's ability to organize His true worshipers!

Now back to your question!

God is a spirit (most powerful intelligent invisible beings) so He is supreme. There are many intelligent spirit beings He made before creating the earth, in the Bible this are called "angels", according to the Bible God refer to this creatures as His sons because they are like Him, the first and foremost angel created before all others is His only begotten son!

MaxInDHouse:
God sent His only begotten son so that everyone exercising faith in him may not be destroyed but can live forever in Paradise on earth!

MaxInDHouse:
I am Maximus one of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES, once again you are all welcome!

Bishopkingsley:
Since you blame God for every sin we all caused

That is why God took it upon himself to pay the price for sin and died to save us from Satan

Kobojunkiee:
Same thing with mosques.... they are all "glorified" business ventures built by men to the purpose of power and wealth over other men. It's all about controlling access to God and the things of God, as well as the narrative.

So don't delude yourself for one second thinking this is only a Christian thing.

Lifestone:
Look at your twisted rationality, a Church hired a Pastor and he should evangelize for convert to go to other churches when he's heading a church where these converts can be discipled.
Well the simple question that his employer asked him is to show his fruits, he couldn't and he was rightly fired.