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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:00am On Jan 11, 2023 |
benji93: The fusion time before 17 differs from one area to another. However, from 17, it is 99% accurate. It is hard to find people above 17 without completely fused wrist plates. That is why it is accepted by all countries around the world. Even Nigerian radiologists. Unfortunately, you do not know close to what they know. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:12am On Jan 11, 2023 |
We have debated this at length. Since 2013. Our coaches will never even accept a player that looks above seventeen. These men are professionals and have worked on that level for years. Due to the accuracy of MRI to detect OVERAGED players, they do not even want to come near the players. Even at that, we still have dozens of players failing. So please, keep the deductive fantasies to yourself there is nothing anywhere to back it. Real teens are failing in droves. That is enough proof to show your deductive fantasy is false. cc: benji93 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:29am On Jan 11, 2023 |
Due to the MRI accuracy, we don't play with fielding overage players because it is detrimental to our preparation. Look at the picture below. This is Iheanacho with a man in 2010 and with the same man in 2016. I am sure you can see he was not some 20/21 years old player in the U17 World Cup. cc: benji93 1 Like
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:49am On Jan 11, 2023 |
Look at the case below. In 2020, the coaching crew of the U17 put together a team of 60 players. Keep in mind, while screening players, the coach try to make sure they pick U17 players to prevent MRI disruption of their process. After the preparation, 40 players failed the MRI screening. It shows your 20/21 years theory is a very wrong deductive fantasy. With no backing from anywhere.
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:21am On Jan 11, 2023 |
In the last excerpt of 40 U17 players failing the MRI scan, it is stated that we used a Stage 4 fusion to screen out players. Meaning that complete fusion, Stage 6 occurs at seventeen years. However, we are using stage 4 to screen. Meaning that many real U17 players will get screened out. That is what the article you posted earlier was actually complaining about that real U17 players get screened out of the team. That has been the practice. So you and komekn's 20/21 years old theory is totally a flawed and false reasoning. Finito. 4 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elyte89: 9:50am On Jan 11, 2023 |
TheGoodJoe: U go stubborn for real life…na only u I sabi wey be say dem go leave argument for u,but u go still continue just to prove a point 6 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 10:17am On Jan 11, 2023 |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by benji93: 10:35am On Jan 11, 2023 |
Sorry, but you can do better. According to Wiki Ndidi is currently 26. Add four years. That would be 30. Today most players do just fine at 30. Was Drogba still not at least a decent striker at 30? The number of years does play a factor, only in how many of those you've been accumulating injuries(wear and tear). But it's not absolute. Different injuries have different recovery rates or how much of your previous self you can recover. So while injury may cause one's career to derail throwing the injury argument is not enough without discussing the kind of injuries. Danielnino00: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:46am On Jan 11, 2023 |
benji93: Ndidi grew up under the supervision of a Super Eagles coach. You can't argue his age. He was watched from a small boy until he grew up. Your points are always fantasies with no back up. Finito. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by benji93: 10:56am On Jan 11, 2023 |
I have told you and I will repeat it again. This happens to be a subject you can discuss on academic grounds. So I would reference journal articles that discussed the subject, especially the most important ones and their references. I am not just running to tribune, punch e.t.c. On other matters, I could do that. Only a small fraction of our discussions on football require an academic/scientific context, this topic happens to be one of them. I have been very kind to you. . I asked you a very simple question, and you dropped out. Very insincere. On academic matters, I won't do that with you. I have been quite upfront with you. Again, my argument that 20/21 year olds can pass the MRI test is my informed deduction from that most important article and their references. You see how clear i have been. I am not just throwing numbers. It's not useful, other than muddying everything up. By the way, can you tell us where you got 99% from? This means that being able to make my deduction requires being able to understand the results presented by that article and some of its references. If you do not understand the article, you won't get my deduction. Very very simple. I know you will chicken out again. If anybody wants to pick up the gauntlet, come forward. Very simple, we'll bring up the article and discuss it, in which case i'll ask some questions to be sure you are following. That's not so difficult. That's all I ask. TheGoodJoe: 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 10:59am On Jan 11, 2023 |
benji93: We should add 4 years because Benji says so? You have no evidence whatsoever to back up any of your claims..Just assumptions and assumptions. If this was a court of law,your argument would be thrown out the moment you present it... There are pictures of Ndidi with the u-17 in 2013 where he looks as young as his mates who passed the MRI back then...Go and check.. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:00am On Jan 11, 2023 |
benji93: Explain your point. Stop jumping around. The floor is open. Prove your flawed and false theory. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by benji93: 11:07am On Jan 11, 2023 |
Oh yes, the article actually 1 player actually achieved complete fusion at 16. The question is not that an actual 16-year-old cannot fail the MRI. Ah, i know say no be all of us dey academia, but at least listen. Listening is a very important trait. Ensure that you understand what the person is saying then shoot. You clearly don't understand what's going on here. I told you my deduction is based on an academic article(the most important one in this matter), but you insist on using the word "assumptions". Pls be sure you know what exactly something is about. Listen. I was hoping you would calm down and grow through the article so I can arrive at my deduction. You are expecting me to just go from A - D. Unelss you are a child prodigy i won't do that. Na step by step. mostob: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by benji93: 11:09am On Jan 11, 2023 |
Can you all see people? You are not careful with your numbers GoodJoe. Where did you get 99% from? I am waiting. TheGoodJoe: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:10am On Jan 11, 2023 |
benji93: Prove your point. We are still patiently waiting. You are dribbling like Maradona. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by benji93: 11:22am On Jan 11, 2023 |
I think I need an audience here. I would like to know if my questions to this man GoodJoe are fair. The discussion is about my claim that many 20/21-year-old Subsaharan Africans Players would pass the MRI test. Note the keyword: Subsaharan African players. As should be the case for any argument, @GoodJoe, said that was far from accurate. Fair enough. So after running around in circles, we agreed to start again. This subject particularly has an academic component. In fact, we are in luck we can have access to one of the most important articles FIFA based their decision on. I'll even show you why this is the most important. My question to you all is simple. Isn't it fair to discuss this article and its references in order to draw informed conclusions on this matter? Should these academic articles not be the first resort, instead of Punch, tribune, anecdotes e.t.c? I am not saying that these are not at all useful. But what should be your first stop? If you are discussing an article you may want to be sure the other parties are following so you ask them questions. This is the crime i have committed my people. I asked questions. Pls help me beg him to answer my questions. He's been dodging them. He runs away at the second step. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 11:25am On Jan 11, 2023 |
Kog45:Okoye is arguably the worst goalkeeper of the Super Eagles. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 11:41am On Jan 11, 2023 |
komekn:Is this verbal armored tank not too much? Choi |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 11:53am On Jan 11, 2023 |
komekn:There's no doubt that age cheating is one of our national pastimes. Anybody arguing against this fact is dreaming |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 11:57am On Jan 11, 2023 |
Mujtahida:it’s between him and baruwa |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 11:58am On Jan 11, 2023 |
Mujtahida:Reason I need to dig into archive... I watched Best Ogedegbe till this era and really surprised that some don't even know Wilfred Agbonabare.The man who broke into Spanish league as far back as 1990 and kept for good six years with 189 matches.... Okoye has done nothing to be compared with any ex eagles goalie. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 12:01pm On Jan 11, 2023 |
elyte89:Regardless of the topic, it's actually unfruitful to engage thegoodjoe in an argument. The best thing is to engage him when you agree with his opinion. That way you guys can have robust discussion. But if you read an opinion of his you don't agree with, resist the urge to get into an argument with him. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 12:03pm On Jan 11, 2023 |
charlesemeka85:Oga Charles,I just pray Okoye comes good cos Nigeria really invested on him,a regional league keeper to national team keeper, serious a real talented keeper would have seized the opportunity,ditto to Uzoho,from Segunda 3 to world cup as number but till date Nigerians don't believe in him... Rohr did well for Okoye and Uzoho. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 12:05pm On Jan 11, 2023 |
Kog45:Apart from one scuffle of a safe during our match with Egypt at the last Afcon, Okoye has NEVER made any crucial save in any game he's manned the post for us. Any better shot, na inside net e dey go. I thought Akpeyi was jittery but Okoye is Mr. Shaky shaky number 1. When I see the goalkeeper that is the chosen one, I will know. All these Okoye and Uzoho no be am. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 12:09pm On Jan 11, 2023 |
charlesemeka85:Baruwa was good with penalties. Okoye is poor all round. I don't rate him at all. How a guy with such excellent physical features (I don't mean his handsomeness oo) is so poor at goalkeeping is a wonder to me. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 12:15pm On Jan 11, 2023 |
Kog45:I know Wilfred akponavare. He played in laliga for years Na indomie children here no sabi am. It’s like he was in the 90 or 94 afcon and World Cup team 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 12:22pm On Jan 11, 2023 |
Kog45:yes rohr helped their career a whole lot with belief that by now they should be atleast among the best in Africa but both have flattered to deceive with no significant improvement since the German brought them to the national team 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:47pm On Jan 11, 2023 |
Mujtahida: This post is devoid of the argument. We agree that age cheating is common in our country. That is why we embraced the MRI wrist scan wholeheartedly, at the cost of even losing some genuine players. We are very strict with the MRI scan. CAF and FIFA are also strict with it. This has helped curb age cheating at U17 level. Plain fact. Now these guys are coming with a very fake, bias and false theory that 20/21 years old pass MRI scan. That is a bloody lie and there is no source to back a blatant lie. So subtle attack on me won't help bend the truth Finito. 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:55pm On Jan 11, 2023 |
Mujtahida: Calm down with me. Coolu temper. In this case, they are off point and manufacturing theories from their heads. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by zuchyblink(m): 12:58pm On Jan 11, 2023 |
TheGoodJoe:Kelechi Iheanacho's real age is 31. No player born in Nigeria plays with their real age. I will delete this post soon. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by zuchyblink(m): 1:00pm On Jan 11, 2023 |
benji93:I am not sure but Ndidi is more than 30. His injury worries could be age related. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by zuchyblink(m): 1:05pm On Jan 11, 2023 |
TheGoodJoe:Ndidi played U20 twice. First at 16 and second at 18 . Even 16 year old guys don't play U17 for us. 1 Like |
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