joseph1013:
This is deliberate obfuscation o. We are talking about giving a green horn his debut in a very high profile match.

Was Okocha given his debut in a high profile match? Do you know the game he made his debut?

TheGoodJoe:
You do not know Yara Yara. Lolllll.

lakesidepapa:


That Gun on kelvin's hand is too big for me o, can he pull the trigger and shot Moses and Conte if they Bleep up?


Yarayara? Am lost here, who bears that name?

lakesidepapa:


Hehe honestly, I don't

lakesidepapa:


That Gun on kelvin's hand is too big for me o, can he pull the trigger and shot Moses and Conte if they Bleep up?


Yarayara? Am lost here, who bears that name?

joseph1013:
This is deliberate obfuscation o. We are talking about giving a green horn his debut in a very high profile match.

Was Okocha given his debut in a high profile match? Do you know the game he made his debut?

TheGoodJoe:


Yara Yara is the attendant that works in TheSuperNerd's lab who he caught smuggling statistical and analytical data to me.

TheSuperNerd:
I do know.... I know about Okocha's career.

Just wondering why an "inexperienced" fella like Okocha (who you said westerhof didn't take a risk on in big matches) and a 19yr old Oliseh featured in the biggest game of the African football calender in 1994.... The '94 Afcon Final.

TheSuperNerd:
Looollll.... Yara Yara's real name is Johnson.

He's my special super assistant in my multi-faceted super labs one of which is the sports research and sports science lab...

I mention him sometimes when quoting Sirs Mickael2 and TheGoodJoe.

Most especially Sir TheGoodJoe.....

........................Meanwhile.....


We dey wait for them....

tbaba1234:
Awoniyi with another barren game... This guy's goal drought na helele!!

joseph1013:
See me see wahala o. Me? I said Westerhoff didn't risk Okocha in a big match? Was the discussion not about Dele's debut in a high-pressure match? And I added how even a legend like Jayjay wasn't thrown into the fray when debuting carelessly in a high profile match. Who spoke about Westerhoff not using talented but inexperienced players to prosecute games?

Na wa o

tbaba1234:
Awoniyi can not complain of not being given a chance... 9 games, no goals, no assists... poor average rating, The stats do not look good for him. He looks like a player short on confidence.. He needs a run of goals to gain back his confidence.

joseph1013:
Don't you think you're taking this issue too personal? I don't see him wishing Musa evil. He just wants him to do well by suggesting that he should play for a really good team in Nigeria, Rangers in case teams abroad refuse to give him a chance. Rangers dont owe players from what I gathered.

tbaba1234:
Awoniyi can not complain of not being given a chance... 9 games, no goals, no assists... poor average rating, The stats do not look good for him. He looks like a player short on confidence.. He needs a run of goals to gain back his confidence.

BascoVanVeli:


If Musa comes back to Nigeria that would be a big step back there is no other way to look at this. It is like quiting ur dream job for another, sure it might not be a lesser job, it might even be better but it is not ur dream job.

BascoVanVeli:


If Musa comes back to Nigeria that would be a big step back there is no other way to look at this. It is like quiting ur dream job for another, sure it might not be a lesser job, it might even be better but it is not ur dream job.

TheSuperNerd:
Looolllll... Forgive me for putting you on the defensive. I just realised I quoted both you and Sir Icon4s and referred you both to The '94 Afcon final.

It was Sir Icon4s who used the term "inexperienced" Okocha NOT YOU and then he also insinuated westerhof not risking him in big games during USA 94 and Tunisia 94.....

My apologies Boss....

**See me see wahala too ooo**

tbaba1234:


Where Musa is right now will almost definitely destroy his career. Musa Muhammad should look for a club in Belgium or Holland, even if it is second tier at first and gradually make his way up.If he can't get a good club, come to Nigeria and start again.

I think, many Nigerian players have bad agents.. How does one explain Shehu Abdullah going to Cyprus after a decent olympics or Imoh Ezekiel going to Qatar?

The agents are just after which club offers the highest pay for them and not which club will best serve their client's career goals. At the end of the day, they end up in rubbish places.

A player like Echiejiele has a great agent.. From Braga to Monaco to Liege.. That is what a good agent can do for your career.

Icon4s:


OMG

TheGoodJoe:


What are you waiting for? Throw kick. Lol.

I am saying that, I disagree with that understanding of National team you do not take risk with young players. Maradona was a small boy when he became key for Argentina. CR7 was a young boy playing for Portugal in the Euros. Renato Sanches, we saw him as a small boy win the Man of the match in the Euros.

The reason why it looks different in the National team is because of plenty competition for each role. So it is easy to find a better matured player who broke into the squad a long time ago than a younger one.

For instance, it is difficult to find youngsters better than Alonso and Busquets in the Spanish National team. Alonso and Busquets are there because they are better, not because they are experienced.

In Nigeria, it is difficult to find a better keeper than Enyeama. He was our number one because he was the best. Not because he was experienced.

It is about finding the best, not experience.

Icon4s:


As i always say experience is also relative.

Okocha then was a beginer compared to Thompson Oliha. Also Okocha was too casual. Okocha was more skillful but Oliha was more efficient.

All be it. The decision to play Oliha ahead of Okocha had to do more with tactics than Experience.

Me, then i never liked Oliha. I always wanted to see a young Okocha dazzle.

terzurum5:

Now you can see that he is not different from Sir Forgiveness.
As far as he is bent on a particular point. He does not turn back.

TheGoodJoe
Hmmmmmmmnnnnnnnn

safarigirl:
we will conduct fasting and prayers for him. Village people are at work, but they will not succeed

Maybe he's a late bloomer

TheSuperNerd:
Good Morning Chief Icons.... Arch-Apostle and Arch-guardian of the halls of Experience....

Oga Experience himself... I greet You Sir.....

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Biko.... E don do.... I understand you...

My own is Experience has a very important place and will always have that place no matter what (AND THERE'S NOTHING ANYONE CAN DO ABOUT IT) but a perfect balance between Experience and Youth precocity/precociousness is the BEST OF THE COCKTAIL MIX.

Experience alone CAN'T ALWAYS GET THE JOB DONE. That super special and Youthful Individual brilliance and Verve also decide big contests and win wars.

None should be overrated but just given their rightful place as we saw with the Nigerian team of the early and mid 90s.

That's my stance and we must remain open-minded about the experience/Youth mix.

.............. Meanwhile.....

Me, TheGoodJoe, and Yara Yara are eagerly waiting for Moses' post-match fitness reports like this........



Time dey go....

........
..... Happy Sunday y'all

TheSuperNerd:
I think he's a late bloomer..... That kid got monstrous talents on the inside. He just needs time and patience from the coaches there. He will come through.

I remember first knowing you as "Mrs Awoniyi".... Chaiii.. #memories

Icon4s:


He could be a late bloomer but i have never seen him as an 'A class' teenage striker. He does not belong to the class of Osimhen and Success. He is not as talented as these 2 strikers.

Icon4s:


I am not saying experiencw alone can get the job done. I am against that comment that "Experience talk should be kicked out".

I am an advocate of a blend of talent and experience.

I perfectly agree with ur stand on this matter but TheGoodJoe does nt want to hear the word "experience". He keeps mentioning best players, best players. What makes u better in life is not experience. Is Iheanacho not better today than he was 2yrs ago?