tbaba1234:


It is proof that the manager does not rate him..

lexyman:
AND Indidi scores ! another motm today i guess

BascoVanVeli:


Guy are u a world class player to know what they do or don't do?

Joebie:
Okay maybe we have a different definition of World Class.
there is no one definition, as it is subjective. I think that's the reason for all this confusion.
I don't have to comment to your every point.. but let me add here.. As for the Algeria game Etebo impressed me most.
He did a lot defensively, which was uncharacteristic of him

lexyman:
AND Indidi scores ! another motm today i guess

tbaba1234:


Is that why Sterling was starting as CF when Kelechi was fit.. anyway, good thing they want to sell him. Hopefully, he gets a manager that believes in him.

tbaba1234:


Is that why Sterling was starting as CF when Kelechi was fit.. anyway, good thing they want to sell him. Hopefully, he gets a manager that believes in him.

TheGoodJoe:
10 minutes ago, lnkstern said:

Mahrez forward pass to N'didi in the middle of the pitch, 30 yards out. Two defenders attempt to close him down. From about 20 yards out, N'didi hits a screamer that bounces in off the right post. Keeper got a bare touch to it, but the shot had too much power.

Beautiful goal!

peterd53:


guy plz tell me hw many matches sterling started as a CF. guardiola decision 2 start sterling as a CF against barca was tactical bcuz he wanted 2 dominate d midfield by playing more midfielders. even aguero was on d bench

peterd53:


guy plz tell me hw many matches sterling started as a CF. guardiola decision 2 start sterling as a CF against barca was tactical bcuz he wanted 2 dominate d midfield by playing more midfielders. even aguero was on d bench

Napoleon55:
another potential world class player,though some folks here will try to argue it.

Super eagles presently have 2 world class players and 3 or 4 potential world class players.

Napoleon55:
you should have told us all along that u don't know the meaning of ''world class'', or that u have ur own customized divination of world class , that would have saved us a lot time trying to lecture u. Did u actually said somewhere that our golden generation hasn't come. Kontinu

enigmaticmotik:



Was it lack of competition that made him to last that long in Chelsea When players like Ballack was begging for his wages to be cut to remain in Chelsea Look at the caliber of players he has displaced in the team Makalele, Essien, Diara, Ballack and even other promising talents Benitez that was a big critic of Mikel during his Liverpool days, benched Mikel when he first came, but immediately he used him and say how technical the guy was... End of story. Remember when Benitez left for Napoli, Mikel was the first player he tried to recruit.

Try watching that game against Spain in the confederations cup (better still, watch the highlight on YouTube). Mikel is a legend, midfield maestro and a great footballer which can make him stand tall among his peers. World class of the highest order unreservedly..,

daveP:
I'm glad you admit to the experience of Mikel which as you say is unrivalled at the moment that none of the raves of the moment can even shut him out of the team for now. Good!



Now if he isn't world class as you say, and he I still at the top of the ladder, standard till now, then doesn't that mean those under him; other SE Footballers are simply mediocres? Well



As for the other names mentioned, they didn't conquer England at the same time UCL while they were around. Emphasis on EPL and UCL.



7 coaches come and go and still use you in their style of play(Conte's kwanta with Mikel going to Olympics), to me that's legendary and world class.



He might be shadows often times, but undoubtedly, he is world class.

joseph1013:
World Class is a relative thing. My definition of a world class player would be somebody, who CONSISTENTLY wins games himself for BOTH club and country. You have to be super consistent to be world class. Left to me, there are only a handful of World Class players in football right now. Thinking at the top of my head, I can't count more than 20.

Goalkeepers: David de Gea, Manuel Neuer, Gianluigi Buffon

Full backs: David Alaba, Marcelo

Centre backs: Thiago Silva, Jerome Boateng, Mats Hummels, Pepe, Diego Godin

Defensive/central midfielders: N’Golo Kanté, Sergio Busquets, Luka Modric

Wingers: Eden Hazard, Neymar, Cristiano Ronaldo, Lionel Messi

Strikers: Luis Suárez, Zlatan Ibrahimovic, Robert Lewandowski

In fact, it is possible for the players on my list to be debated, but what that means is that there are even less world class players than I thought.

tbaba1234:
I think the problem is that Mikel was not flamboyant and did not get numerous goals, that is why he is underrated. Mikel outshone all of his competitors and sent them out of the club until Conte came. He was probably the best player on Chelsea's most famous night. He does not get the credit he deserves..

Some even suggest erroneously that he was a bench warmer. Very few players maintain Mikel's kind of consistent appearances at the top of the game for up to a decade. I have no doubt that if he did not go to the Olympics, he would have been part of Conte's team.

And Yes, he is world class. Playing at the top level for that long proves that. When I say top level, I mean champion league level for a decade. He is not Sanchez or Messi or Ronaldo but in the defensive midfield role, he proved himself as one of the best in Europe at his best.

joseph1013:
goldfish80, has your opinion about Ndidi changed? Or you still believe Onazi should keep benching him?

princesuko:


It's criminal not to put Iniesta,Kroos and Aguero . Would Replace Boateng with Pique/Ramos tho apart from that I think the list is fair.

goldfish80:

Onazi is not doing badly at his club at all,if you've been following developments. At the long run, Mikel will be eased out of the team. I don't expect Mikel being a super regular heading into the world cup next.
Players like Iwobi, Ndidi,Onazi, Etebo, Nwakali kelechi and a support cast of Ogu, Etisi will be holding sway.

joseph1013:


As long as Mikel proves himself in Camp, he will continue to be a regular taken out around the hour mark.

Oh, I love Esiti. The guy just never gets those opportunities.

joseph1013:


Iniesta is washed up these days. The Iniesta of 2017 is no longer the Iniesta of 2010.

Kroos, I don't know. He's lost his touch and regularly underwhelms these days.

Aguero would never be on my list, same reason Higuain would never be there. He's sh*t in Argentina, and this season he's been a shadow of himself in the Cityzen's colours.

Yeah, let's replace Ramos with Boateng. I wonder how I missed him.

joseph1013:


Iniesta is washed up these days. The Iniesta of 2017 is no longer the Iniesta of 2010.

Kroos, I don't know. He's lost his touch and regularly underwhelms these days.

Aguero would never be on my list, same reason Higuain would never be there. He's sh*t in Argentina, and this season he's been a shadow of himself in the Cityzen's colours.

Yeah, let's replace Ramos with Boateng. I wonder how I missed him.

edi287:
Mikel will definitely go down as a legend and one of our best midfielders ever, but he certainly was never World Class. Talented yes, but I'm sorry, he never got to a world class level at his peak. I agree he was a bit underrated in England, but no way in the world was he world class. I don't think there was ever a time in his career he was a top 10 CM/DM in world football.

princesuko:


Take Cover Sir, The Pro Mikel is World Class Group would soon be here.