The rumours are getting too much can 1 club just get this deal done

Eizzy003:
The rumours are getting too much can 1 club just get this deal done

Na small small

The rumors are good news

andrewbaba44:


Na small small

The rumors are good news

I would prefer Osimhen to go to Napoli than Chelsea

Subzero047:


I would prefer Osimhen to go to Napoli than Chelsea

I prefer napoli also

But imagine if osimhen ended up joining chelsea and send tammy to the bench

Oshimeh shud avoid chelsea. A move to man united or napoli will afford him more playing time

andrewbaba44:


I prefer napoli also

But imagine if osimhen ended up joining chelsea and send tammy to the bench

Osimhen will have to prove beyond every reasonable doubt that he is better than Abraham to do that

Subzero047:


Osimhen will have to prove beyond every reasonable doubt that he is better than Abraham to do that

Hmmmm

Anyway I don’t trust lampard as he will always favour his English boys

charlesemeka85:
Oshimeh shud avoid chelsea. A move to man united or napoli will afford him more playing time

Lol ,just as someone said earlier

He should also avoid united oooo ,rashford martial

Napoli wanna sell Milik so Napoli will be ok

Oga u didn’t follow the discussion. So chill

andrewbaba44:


But he is yet to even get a club there

Una no get chill for akpeyi

AllforJesus7:
I read the arguement and debate about who the better player is between Mikel and Ndidi.

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Mikel Obi (2005 - present)
Age = 33
Total appearances = 455
Total goals = 11
Total assists = 18
Goal ratio = 0.02 goals per appearance
Assist ratio = 0.04 assists per appearance

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Ndidi (2014 - present)
Age = 23
Total appearances = 213
Total goals = 15
Total assists = 10
Goal ratio = 0.07 goals per appearance
Assist ratio = 0.05 assists per appearance
-------------------------------------------------------------------------

Conclusion:
Ndidi at 23 is already a better player than Mikel.








Data assumptions:
Note the data gathered are club stats for both players right from the known beginning of their professional careers. All matches are club matches. No national team appearance/matches were used.
Sources:
Transfermarkt

Timay, see what I was saying?

The only yardstick that care about is goals and assists. Like WTF?

How would you be comparing a defensive mf using goals and assist FFS?

Is their job to score

charlesemeka85:
Oshimeh shud avoid chelsea. A move to man united or napoli will afford him more playing time

Giroud is not certain to remain at the end of the season
if he should avoid any team it is Man u, he has Martial greenwood to compete with

Man United won't even sign him if ighalo stays

barackodam:


Timay, see what I was saying?
The only yardstick that care about is goals and assists. Like WTF?
How would you be comparing a defensive mf using goals and assist FFS?
Is their job to score

I get your point but you can bring your own yardstick sha we are all learning

Edopesin:

Giroud is not certain to remain at the end of the season
if he should avoid any team it is Man u, he has Martial greenwood to compete with

Man United won't even sign him if ighalo stays

He will get a better chance at Man U than Chelsea

Subzero047:

He will get a better chance at Man U than Chelsea

Why do you say so

barackodam:



Timay, see what I was saying?

The only yardstick that care about is goals and assists. Like WTF?

How would you be comparing a defensive mf using goals and assist FFS?

Is their job to score

Yes I posted the attacking stats of both players to prove a point. Many believe Mikel was a better offensive player and a better distributor of the balls.

The defensive stats of both players are available here;
https://www.premierleague.com/players/3102/John-Obi-Mikel/stats
https://www.premierleague.com/players/20479/Wilfred-Ndidi/stats


Clearly Ndidi is a better player both offensively and defensively.

N.B. There are other comparison yardsticks available in those links to compare both players i.e team play and discipline.

cc Edopesin

Edopesin:

Why do you say so

Lampard has an English bias and will favor Abraham over Osimhen

Subzero047:


Lampard has an English bias and will favor Abraham over Osimhen

He doesn't have any bias, you think if he had better non English players he won't start them

AllforJesus7:



Yes I posted the attacking stats of both players to prove a point. Many believe Mikel was a better offensive player and a better distributor of the balls.

The defensive stats of both players are available here;
https://www.premierleague.com/players/3102/John-Obi-Mikel/stats
https://www.premierleague.com/players/20479/Wilfred-Ndidi/stats


Clearly Ndidi is a better player both offensively and defensively.

N.B. There are other comparison yardsticks available in those links to compare both players i.e team play and discipline.

cc Edopesin

Oga, both of them are defensive minded players. Nobody gives a shit about that.

Ederson has most assist in epl. Come end of season, he won't get golden glove.
Ter Stegen has the most assist in liga Santander, come end of season, he won't get Zamora.

Everybody has their job. Compare them with tackles made, retrieval, interception, fouls conceded and stuffs.

That Ederson and Ter Stegen have assists and are found wanting in their primary job, keeping the ball out of the net. Another keeper in Oblak and Alisson(or whom?) would take the trophy.

If a player is not offensive minded, stop using goals and assists to compare them!

Edopesin:

He doesn't have any bias, you think if he had better non English players he won't start them

This is so false

So, CHO deserves the starting he was getting at the beginning of the season?

He came back from injury and still is playing, very unproductive player who can only shine against lower league teams

What about Mount, beginning of the season, he deserved it too?

Tomori over Christensen?

Forget that talk, Lampard was fücking biased!

It was when they started backfiring he relegated Tomori, CHO was injured anyway. And well, Mount came good

barackodam:



Oga, both of them are defensive minded players. Nobody gives a shit about that.

Ederson has most assist in epl. Come end of season, he won't get golden glove.
Ter Stegen has the most assist in liga Santander, come end of season, he won't get Zamora.

Everybody has their job. Compare them with tackles made, retrieval, interception, fouls conceded and stuffs.

That Ederson and Ter Stegen have assists and are found wanting in their primary job, keeping the ball out of the net. Another keeper in Oblak and Alisson(or whom?) would take the trophy.

If a player is not offensive minded, stop using goals and assists to compare them!

the link he posted showed the defensive stats of both players and Ndidi still clear am per match ratios

Edopesin:

He doesn't have any bias, you think if he had better non English players he won't start them

Mason Mount is sh1t for starters but Lampard favored him over Pulisic, CHO has been terrible but he still gets gametime

barackodam:



This is so false

So, CHO deserves the starting he was getting at the beginning of the season?

He came back from injury and still is playing, very unproductive player who can only shine against lower league teams

What about Mount, beginning of the season, he deserved it too?

Tomori over Christensen?

Forget that talk, Lampard was fücking biased!

It was when they started backfiring he relegated Tomori, CHO was injured anyway. And well, Mount came good

Wrong

Are you saying mount is not good or what? CHO that was injured beginning of season and I don't even think he played 90min in the first 10 matches so which game time was he getting?

Tomori had better stats than VVD and most top half defenders in the premier league and it wasn't as if he was bad so what is the bias

Edopesin:


Wrong

Are you saying mount is not good or what? CHO that was injured beginning of season and I don't even think he played 90min in the first 10 matches so which game time was he getting?

Tomori had better stats than VVD and most top half defenders in the premier league and it wasn't as if he was bad so what is the bias

I didn't touch Mount.

He didn't deserve starting. But he proved and sealed his shirt.

Others didn't deserve the starting shirt. And he kept playing them despite flopping. It was when Chelsea results got bad he started benching them.


Before and after injury, CHO is still sh!t

CHO has had more minutes than Pulisic even when Pulisic was fit

Subzero047:


Mason Mount is sh1t for starters but Lampard favored him over Pulisic, CHO has been terrible but he still gets gametime

Mason mount is damn good, I agree pulisic should be stsrting ahead of CHO but mason mount is justified unless you dont watch Chelsea play

Edopesin:


the link he posted showed the defensive stats of both players and Ndidi still clear am per match ratios

I didn't bother clicking the link, cos he bolded

Goal ratio
Assist ratio.


That's the message he was trying to pass. He didn't bring their defensive stats

barackodam:


I didn't touch Mount.

He didn't deserve starting. But he proved and sealed his shirt.

Others didn't deserve the starting shirt. And he kept playing them despite flopping. It was when Chelsea results got bad he started benching them.


Before and after injury, CHO is still sh!t

CHO has had more minutes than Pulisic even when Pulisic was fit

CHO was never a starter even though he was ahead of pulisic in the pecking order doesn't make lampard biased

Edopesin:


CHO was never a starter even though he was ahead of pulisic in the pecking order doesn't make lampard biased

Ahn ahn

barackodam:


Ahn ahn

The spirit no dey watch Chelsea ball

The same pulisic that has more minutes played but una go just dey falsely accuse lampard

I weak when someone said he is preparing and giving them game time cause of euros

barackodam:



Oga, both of them are defensive minded players. Nobody gives a shit about that.

Ederson has most assist in epl. Come end of season, he won't get golden glove.
Ter Stegen has the most assist in liga Santander, come end of season, he won't get Zamora.

Everybody has their job. Compare them with tackles made, retrieval, interception, fouls conceded and stuffs.

That Ederson and Ter Stegen have assists and are found wanting in their primary job, keeping the ball out of the net. Another keeper in Oblak and Alisson(or whom?) would take the trophy.

If a player is not offensive minded, stop using goals and assists to compare them!

Not necessarily so.

You compare players with a yardstick based on the scenario and objective.

If Pep Guardiola for example is going to make a choice of a DMF between two players he would ask a question like "who is the better offensively"

So you should understand that there are different basis for comparison.

I already told you earlier..... I put forward their attacking stats as an answer to the question....

"who is the better offensive player between the two?"

If you believe that question cannot be asked of a defensive midfielder then I'm afraid....

Edopesin:

The spirit no dey watch Chelsea ball

The same pulisic that has more minutes played but una go just dey falsely accuse lampard

I weak when someone said he is preparing and giving them game time cause of euros

I give up bro

Edopesin:


Mason mount is damn good, I agree pulisic should be stsrting ahead of CHO but mason mount is justified unless you dont watch Chelsea play

Mason Mount has been piss poor all season and he scores a couple of goals before the lock down and you people suddenly think he is good? same with United fans and Martial

Arguement

Al- Ahly VS Arsenal

Sundew VS Lile

Ws Serif VS Everton


Which is the better club?