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Re: Could This Be Why @Niger Delta Avengers Are Blowing Up Pipelines?(Pic by pavy(m): 12:05pm On Jun 01, 2016
The militants should also call on all the Niger-Delta leaders, past and present, to give account of the huge funds that have been flowing through the States especially since 1999. Left for me, Niger-Delta leaders are the problem of Niger-Delta, and not the federal govt.

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Re: Could This Be Why @Niger Delta Avengers Are Blowing Up Pipelines?(Pic by Bluffly: 12:08pm On Jun 01, 2016
Shym3xx:


Well, it seems you're a terrible student of history. There's no correlation between the British colonisation of both Singapore and US...and that of Africa. While the Brits saw US and Singapore as new homes in foreign lands and did all they could to develop those places (the nucleus of the US ruling class today is still Anglo-American, Scottish, Welsh and Irish) - Africa was exploited and left in darkness. And till today, there's still indirect colonisation of Africa - Francophone Africa, apart from Algeria to an extent, is the most overt form of the colonisation still going on in Africa today.

Now back to ya retort. How can they fight only their leaders when the FG takes almost every revenue that comes from them? What you posited would only make sense if their leaders are in control of the resources. However, that isn't the case.

As for Spain and Catalonia: only 1/8 of Spanish income comes from Catalonia, unlike Nigeria that earns close to 80/90% of its FOREX from Niger Delta oil. And the Spain government did well in developing Catalonia and it's also a semi-autonomous region. Can the same be said about Nigeria vis-a-vis Niger Delta? Apples and oranges, mate.

Be logical, don't be emotional. I don't know what part of naij you're from - but ya region would fare better without oil if the stakeholders can look inwards to create wealth.

Please, Please, British did all they could to develop Singapore and USA or USA and Singapore were ready to build themselves. No one can make you feel inferior, if you do not permit it. These two countries did what they need to do. You said Federal Government is not doing enough to develop ND, so should we relieve the governors of their appointments, cancel the existence of those states and declare it a federal territory?. What have the region done with all the quintillions that have sank into ND, They are complaining of pollution and yet they are polluting it the more through bombing. These regions collect allocation more than any other place, with all other allocations that other states do not get. Either Autonomous, Semi-autonomous, or non-autonomous, what have they been doing with what they've gotten all this while.

You said how can they fight their leaders as if the FG took the money and pocketed it without giving them sizeable amount of it back. Do you know the quantum of projects that the FG has positioned into these areas in which this same set of buffons will rather collect the money from them than allow the project come to being? If you are not from that region, You collect a meaningful project and go to that region to execute it, if they allow you to be successful, let us know, if not, let us know.
You even said every revenue, as if they do not have IGR. Bayelsa, Rivers, Delta occupies positions in 1st to 4th and yet nothing to show for it.

I beg. In spite of lacuna in a political system, violence, and stupidity can never be justified.

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Re: Could This Be Why @Niger Delta Avengers Are Blowing Up Pipelines?(Pic by AreaFada2: 12:10pm On Jun 01, 2016
slimfit1:


That shows he was not aware of what has been going on in this country. Go to Minna tell me how that place looks like . He was clueless and he surrounded himself with clueless and selfish people. If it was me my village would look like a developed city I don't care what people say or think, as long as we provide the bread we will be the first to take a bite.

Well, in Nigeria, gentle and fair people are called clueless.
We live in a society in which everything is upside down compared to saner climes.
Any wonder why are nothing to write home about after 55 years? shocked
Re: Could This Be Why @Niger Delta Avengers Are Blowing Up Pipelines?(Pic by AreaFada2: 12:13pm On Jun 01, 2016
pavy:
The militants should also call on all the Niger-Delta leaders, past and present, to give account of the huge funds that have been flowing through the States especially since 1999. Left for me, Niger-Delta leaders are the problem of Niger-Delta, and not the federal govt.
In your wisdom, those (FG) who wasted 87% of the resources have no case to answer.

Wow! You must be King Solomon.
Re: Could This Be Why @Niger Delta Avengers Are Blowing Up Pipelines?(Pic by menstrualpad: 12:13pm On Jun 01, 2016
free them....am Yoruba and I maintain that until Nigeria is restructured we would not move forward. If you think Lagos is developing you need a brain check...development means the people are keeping pace with the government....ordinary brand new car Nigerian professor can not afford. the current structure of Nigeria since about 1979, nothing can move....unless States and LGA's are compelled to be viable and fruitful.

AreaFada2:


Well, in Nigeria, gentle and fair people are called clueless.
We live in a society in which everything is upside down compared to saner climes.
Any wonder why are nothing to write home about after 55 years? shocked
Re: Could This Be Why @Niger Delta Avengers Are Blowing Up Pipelines?(Pic by Shym3xx: 12:13pm On Jun 01, 2016
Subway1011:
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Gbam.

I'll never understand the thought process of a lot of these Yoruba people. Most of them prefer fighting other people's wars, while shooting themselves in the foot, when they can make progression by focusing on what they're doing wrong. All you need is critical/logical thinking.

Lagos is well positioned to be the highest earner in Nigeria. So, why not focus on how you can secure and keep the cash cow to yourselves - to foster developments in other parts of the region, rather than expending unnecessary energy on inconsequential oil?

You can draw a correlation between that with London vis-a-vis North Sea Oil in the UK. The Scots can scream about their North Sea oil from now till eternity, but that doesn't negate the fact that it only contributes a meagre £35 billion to the UK's economy and that's a tiny fraction of what London contributes. The economy of London alone is as big as that of Sweden.

Resource-control/(semi)autonomy/regional-government/federalism or whatever you want to call it, if we can't get full autonomy should be our target - eff the oil. Lagos is being cheated and that should be the focus.

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Re: Could This Be Why @Niger Delta Avengers Are Blowing Up Pipelines?(Pic by lereinter(m): 12:15pm On Jun 01, 2016
Rubbish Rubbish and Rubbish
Re: Could This Be Why @Niger Delta Avengers Are Blowing Up Pipelines?(Pic by Nobody: 12:15pm On Jun 01, 2016
How stupid.
Is "Niger delta" a state?
Someone posts a picture of a shanty that is mirrored in Lagos and Abuja and the illiterates go wild.

Why are the Niger delta comic book kids not going after their own who squandered 13% derivation?

Bunch of jokers. The 6 years of GEJ gave shown more than anything else that the Niger delta fault is from within itself. Only thugs as leaders.

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Re: Could This Be Why @Niger Delta Avengers Are Blowing Up Pipelines?(Pic by tall2ce(m): 12:17pm On Jun 01, 2016
u did u not upload pictures of PH, Asaba, Calabar and Uyo. Y d creeks?
Re: Could This Be Why @Niger Delta Avengers Are Blowing Up Pipelines?(Pic by menstrualpad: 12:17pm On Jun 01, 2016
e pain am!!!

lereinter:

Rubbish Rubbish and Rubbish

Re: Could This Be Why @Niger Delta Avengers Are Blowing Up Pipelines?(Pic by LAFOCUZY: 12:17pm On Jun 01, 2016
it is plausible to argue that most Niger Delta indigenes and chiefs had been given opportunities that could have been explored or utilized to develop the area but instead they choose to make those investment in Lagos and Abuja. Similar to what happened in the 80s and 90s when Niger Delta chiefs had deals with oil companies and built beautiful houses in Port Harcourt GRA instead of driving development in their home communities.

There is also the absence of patriotic elders and activist who are committed to the development of the area. These elders, apolitical wealthy business men, political opposition leaders, intellectuals and activists check the excesses of the abusive executive governors and political leaders. And help bring some order, balance and direction to the state and region. While this is wide spread across regions and states, some areas are quite frankly more prone to this failure. Lagos for instance had this balance until a few years.

However, given the sought of federal structure practiced in Nigeria, it remains the burden of government at the center who derive the most benefit from the resources exploited from these areas to ensure commensurate development. Naturally, anyone from this area will be upset regardless of where he lives, which religion he practices, his education or ethnicity. On the other hand, Niger Delta or the former eastern region as it were should come together and present a common front. They should not expect others to fight their fight or mere empathize with them. Pity really has no benefit- it only exist for the moment. The people in this area should take some responsibility. they are just too divided and has no common sustainable objective
Re: Could This Be Why @Niger Delta Avengers Are Blowing Up Pipelines?(Pic by LAFOCUZY: 12:17pm On Jun 01, 2016
it is plausible to argue that most Niger Delta indigenes and chiefs had been given opportunities that could have been explored or utilized to develop the area but instead they choose to make those investment in Lagos and Abuja. Similar to what happened in the 80s and 90s when Niger Delta chiefs had deals with oil companies and built dutiful houses in Port harcourt GRA instead of their home communities. There is also the absence of patriotic elders and activist who are committed to the development of the area. These elders, apolitical wealthy business men, political opposition leaders, intellectuals and activists check the excesses of the abusive executive governors and political leaders. And help bring some order, balance and direction to the state and region. While this is a wide spread across regions and states, some areas are quite frankly more prone to this failure. Lagos for instance had this balance until a few years

However, given the sought of federal structure practiced in Nigeria, it remains the burden of government at the center who derive the most benefit from the resources exploited from these areas to ensure commensurate development. Naturally, anyone from this area will be upset regardless whether of where he lives, which religion he practices, his education or ethnicity. The Niger Delat or the former eastern region as it where should come together and present a common front. They should not expect others to fight their fight or pity them. Pity really has no benefit- it only exist for the moment. The people in this area should take some responsibility. they are just too divided and has no common sustainable objective

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Re: Could This Be Why @Niger Delta Avengers Are Blowing Up Pipelines?(Pic by methodyk: 12:19pm On Jun 01, 2016
femyodsky:
Pictures of Major areas in warri and PH should be taken and compared with that in Ajegunle.
This Yoruba no go park, make see road. Always causing confusion since time immemorial!
Re: Could This Be Why @Niger Delta Avengers Are Blowing Up Pipelines?(Pic by deloon(m): 12:19pm On Jun 01, 2016
veeceesynergy:
. When they were fully represented and not Marginalised in appointments, what did they achieve.

Are you saying thats a reason for them to marginalized in appointments now? This is Bullying.
Re: Could This Be Why @Niger Delta Avengers Are Blowing Up Pipelines?(Pic by danxzy: 12:19pm On Jun 01, 2016
Honestly is a pity how can the people feeding nigeria account be suffering while people that dont knw anything is enjoying they own money. i really support them to fight for they right
Re: Could This Be Why @Niger Delta Avengers Are Blowing Up Pipelines?(Pic by AreaFada2: 12:19pm On Jun 01, 2016
menstrualpad:
free them....am Yoruba and I maintain that until Nigeria is restructured we would not move forward. If you think Lagos is developing you need a brain check...development means the people are keeping pace with the government....ordinary brand new car Nigerian professor can not afford. the current structure of Nigeria since about 1979, nothing can move....unless States and LGA's are compelled to be viable and fruitful.


Every part of 9ja will be better off without oil.

Every part has comparative advantage in one area or the other.

But we all currently sit down waiting for oil money.

We have to restructure seriously & innovate.

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Re: Could This Be Why @Niger Delta Avengers Are Blowing Up Pipelines?(Pic by Burger01(m): 12:20pm On Jun 01, 2016
Mztarstrechy:
So why didnt they blow it during GEJ's regime?
Very good question smiley
Re: Could This Be Why @Niger Delta Avengers Are Blowing Up Pipelines?(Pic by Bluffly: 12:21pm On Jun 01, 2016
Shym3xx:


So, you're Yoruba, yes?

Darn! You Yoruba folks on this forum always disappoint me with the way you harangue with these folks over inconsequential, insufficient, and counter-productive accursed oil. A cursory look into Yoruba post-colonial history would showed that the region achieved its greatest strides when it depended on proceeds from agriculture and it looked inwards to create wealth. So why be the loudest voices for other parasitic regions that can't thrive without being fixated oil proceeds?

Lagos has potentials to be a world class city, if the population can be managed effectively and they can find a way to create an identity for it. And it has a few drops of oil and bit of gas reserves. Ditto seaports for commerce. Ogun has massive potentials to be an industrial hub. Ibadan has huge untapped potentials and it can become a world class city if well restructured and planning. Ondo has a lot of potentials. Ditto Ekiti, Osun, and other parts of Oyo for agriculture and tourism. So, what's the fixation on oil that has stagnated growth about?

Our fixation should be on (semi)autonomy...not oil. Let them take their oil. If we can get (semi)autonomy, the money generated by Lagos alone should be able to replace whatever proceeds we're getting from oil right now. Lagos is being cheated in the scheme of things.

Fixation on semi-autonomy or oil is not the reason why their land is this way today. The reason is their leaders. Even with semi-autonomy, they will still be uselessly ravished. There is a difference between infrastructural development and diversification of the economy. Despite the fixation on oil, Nigeria generally is not meant to be the way it is. Even when we diversify, the question is still, do we have sane leaders? NO.

I agree that Oil is a curse for this country as it appears to be easy money.
Re: Could This Be Why @Niger Delta Avengers Are Blowing Up Pipelines?(Pic by menstrualpad: 12:24pm On Jun 01, 2016
God bless you 4 that. It is a fact!

AreaFada2:


Every part of 9ja will be better without oil.

Every part has comparative advantage in one area or the other.

But we all currently sit down waiting for oil money.

We have to restructure seriously & innovate.
Re: Could This Be Why @Niger Delta Avengers Are Blowing Up Pipelines?(Pic by designexploit(m): 12:26pm On Jun 01, 2016
Mztarstrechy:
So why didnt they blow it during GEJ's regime?

Broooossss the Niger Delta people have been complaining of this same thing before GEJ regime. Your comment makes sense but not relevant.
Re: Could This Be Why @Niger Delta Avengers Are Blowing Up Pipelines?(Pic by Tmercy(m): 12:29pm On Jun 01, 2016
modath:

Did the scavengers just wake up from a coma?

13% ,NDDC, ND Ministry? They are their own problems.

is there any other word 2 qualify ur intelligence
Re: Could This Be Why @Niger Delta Avengers Are Blowing Up Pipelines?(Pic by uduokirika1(m): 12:31pm On Jun 01, 2016
You still. Haven't answered my. Question!

Do. U think. Bbuhari. Gvt. Will spare. His. Institution


Stop using. Tinubu. As. Example. Cos. He was aan ex gov who. Enjoyed. Immunity. And. Still controls d. Incubent
priceaction:



This is because they might will be hunted by their kingsmen and those that they are sponsoring. That means their hands too are not clean. Even tinubu, which is close ally of dokubo, upon all his so called shaddy deals and curruption has most of his investment in nigeria. Why cant they site it in places that are save in the region?
I stayed in niger delta for years. I mean creeks and riverine area not cities, majorly ,bayelsa and the likes- from patani-sagbama, toru ebeni,kabiama, okobiri, brass and nembe amasomma, ogbia, name them even during MEND days. We know what is really happening in the place. Even then, a local government chairman likely richer than some State governor but they will never come office? why because their hands are not clean, even in the community. Too many factions and leaders. So i know what i am talking about. The more you are influenced and radicals, either young or old, the more you will command boys...Even if they still control everything, there wont be development because of these.

Re: Could This Be Why @Niger Delta Avengers Are Blowing Up Pipelines?(Pic by igbsam(m): 12:33pm On Jun 01, 2016
modath:

Did the scavengers just wake up from a coma?

13% ,NDDC, ND Ministry? They are their own problems.


Exactly what i have been saying. They are their own problems. The leaders there shud be held. The so called dons, chairman, etc are embezzling all d funds meant for the ND
Re: Could This Be Why @Niger Delta Avengers Are Blowing Up Pipelines?(Pic by Jubobash1: 12:35pm On Jun 01, 2016
Mztarstrechy:
So why didnt they blow it during GEJ's regime?

Simply because his one of there own of course my brother sentiment as been their food since 1999 gbam
Re: Could This Be Why @Niger Delta Avengers Are Blowing Up Pipelines?(Pic by Sikariyelwa: 12:35pm On Jun 01, 2016
IT DOESN'T MATTER THEIR FIGHTING IS LIKE CHASING SHADOW LEAVING THE MAIN THING UNTOUCHED. ALL THE FUNDS MEANT FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE NIGER DELTA AREAS ARE BEING SHARED AND EATEN UP BY THEIR LEADERS. FIGHT YOUR LEADERS TO CLAIM YOUR RIGHT. FROM 1997 TO DATE, OVER 586BILLION NAIRA WAS ALLOCATED TO N/DELTA. WITH OUT PROPORTIONAL /COMMENSURATE DEVELOPMENT.. U
Re: Could This Be Why @Niger Delta Avengers Are Blowing Up Pipelines?(Pic by ajaylee1(m): 12:36pm On Jun 01, 2016
If that Is d reason, dey should not be holding Nigerian govt responsible, they should be holding their leaders representing them, Cos surely d govt is giving d money money to them and they corner it.
Re: Could This Be Why @Niger Delta Avengers Are Blowing Up Pipelines?(Pic by gabicon: 12:37pm On Jun 01, 2016
The problem in the Niger delta is leadership, as much as I want resource control, the question begging to be answered is who controls the resources. The militant, the people, opportunist, or criminals? The people are first of all off the table and no development can occur without a translation of the people from poverty to prosperity.
Re: Could This Be Why @Niger Delta Avengers Are Blowing Up Pipelines?(Pic by Nobody: 12:40pm On Jun 01, 2016
olafum1:


They were not much marginalized in appointments & likes or regarded as 5% under GEJ.

Imagine some northern leaders along side pmb vowing to give them the Boko Haram treatment when only it is pipelines they are blowing up, and at the same time they all are denying the ethnicity of the Fulani terrorists, who is maiming & taking lives in a gruesome manner in the south.

So it's d govt that shot herself in the leg sad. To me, one live is more significant to all the pipelines in Nigeria.

Mind you, what they are clamouring for now, is more of federalism. Let them have d larger stake over their resources. That's all. This northerners have 98% stake in their resources and are still calling for their death, using the boyscout military who specializes in terrorizing civilians. Isn't that another form of modern day slavery and savagery?

Nigeria is ripe enough for federalism... The govt needs to act fast, smart and wise to tackle this root cause, so that the country can remain as ONE. enough of military bragadro over there, it will fail, Obasanjo tried it and failed but Yaradua nailed it.

Yaradua, my Hero.

you are a little right...but y under buhari? when Jonathan was wasting d money nobody cried...but now they are bombing...mark me that buhari will deal with them...and many Nigerians support him...don't great him as a northerner, hez our president...u say its wrong to ushe military, but even Lincoln killed hundreds of thousands of Southerners to keep america one...forget buhari, no president would let d nation break under him..he will rather sacrifice many lives...buhari is on track...I look forward to d deployment of 200000 soldiers to kill as much Niger deltans and easterners( troublemakers) ..this will knock sense into their head

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Re: Could This Be Why @Niger Delta Avengers Are Blowing Up Pipelines?(Pic by canalily(m): 12:41pm On Jun 01, 2016
FYB:
And all the money dat was used to develop abuja came from the Niger Delta angry

Monkey d work, Baboon d chop

Re: Could This Be Why @Niger Delta Avengers Are Blowing Up Pipelines?(Pic by Shym3xx: 12:42pm On Jun 01, 2016
Bluffly:

Please, Please, British did all they could to develop Singapore and USA or USA and Singapore were ready to build themselves. No one can make you feel inferior, if you do not permit it. These two countries did what they need to do. You said Federal Government is not doing enough to develop ND, so should we relieve the governors of their appointments, cancel the existence of those states and declare it a federal territory?. What have the region done with all the quintillions that have sank into ND, They are complaining of pollution and yet they are polluting it the more through bombing. These regions collect allocation more than any other place, with all other allocations that other states do not get. Either Autonomous, Semi-autonomous, or non-autonomous, what have they been doing with what they've gotten all this while.

You said how can they fight their leaders as if the FG took the money and pocketed it without giving them sizeable amount of it back. Do you know the quantum of projects that the FG has positioned into these areas in which this same set of buffons will rather collect the money from them than allow the project come to being? If you are not from that region, You collect a meaningful project and go to that region to execute it, if they allow you to be successful, let us know, if not, let us know.
You even said every revenue, as if they do not have IGR. Bayelsa, Rivers, Delta occupies positions in 1st to 4th and yet nothing to show for it.

I beg. In spite of lacuna in a political system, violence, and stupidity can never be justified.

But those who built the US were Brits/Irish who became Americans and they're still the ruling class. And that was also a country built on free labour by millions of slaves. Heck, the two people leading the polls of both parties in the US right now are from the same bloodline. So ya point is? Brits also built Singapore and it was a crown colony (check the meaning of crown colony and what it means to the British royal family lool). I see you forgot to cite Hong Kong and Australia...I've got news for you, they were also built by Brits. All these countries are British oversea territories. grin You need to read history logically to understand - not by reading for the sake of it.

Now, the rest of ya retort sound incoherent cos you're too emotional. To be able to argue logically, the first thing you need to do is to take emotions out of it - so you can open up ya brain to see the bigger picture a la 3rd eye. Regardless, I'll reply the points you raised.

1). You don't need to relieve the governors their duties to be fair to them. If you can't give them semi-autonomy - you should be able to give them special status and at least 40% of capital projects should be located in their region. That's what you call "fair" when you're dealing with a cash cow. As you're eating, the cash cow also has to eat in abundance. Failure to do that will always have consequences.

2). How come the Nigerian government and people turned a blind eye to the environment degradation that has perpetually plagued the region via oil spillages and gas flaring for decades, when the oil was flowing and there was in disruption with the cash cow? But now that they're blowing up pipelines, you lot seem to care - why? It just shows how selfish, wicked, and insensitive most of you're. So, if they prefer to keep exacerbating it, to bring the whole country down - why do you care? It's their oil and the lands belong to them - whatever they choose to do is their prerogative. If you had shown enough care when oil-spillage/gas-flaring was plaguing the whole region...you would have a point. But right now, ya opinion on pollution is inconsequential.

Lastly, like Malcolm X said, "You can't separate peace from freedom because no one can be at peace unless he has his freedom." If you want peace - give them what rightfully belongs to them. Violence is wired with human psyche as part of innate survival instinct and the last resort...and that's what we're all witnessing. And no matter how you silence them, a new splinter group will always rise up...that's the story of injustice.

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Re: Could This Be Why @Niger Delta Avengers Are Blowing Up Pipelines?(Pic by Ajibel(m): 12:42pm On Jun 01, 2016
Eluwilussit:


Lagos wouldn't be the way they are today if all they got was federal allocations. FG consciously invested in them and made sure almost everyone else did.

Where were you during the time of Tinubu when the FG withheld Lagos state's allocation for years?
Re: Could This Be Why @Niger Delta Avengers Are Blowing Up Pipelines?(Pic by akanji4good(m): 12:42pm On Jun 01, 2016
For good 16 years, Lagos State did not collect kobo from Federal Government, and Lagos State Governors are developing Lagos State. The same 16 years, Niger Delta Governors has being collecting oil revenue from Federal Government, their people should ask them what all the Money is used for. shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked

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