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| Re: . by truthman2012(m): 11:26am On Jul 06, 2016 |
Avoidhellfire:Trash !!!! Liar? Is it my words or Bible's? You don't know what you are saying. How could you say God telling the Israelites to take jewelries from Egyptians is a parable? Parable about what? The Bible passage you classical Christians usually refer to is 1 Peter 3:3-5: 1 Peter 3:3–5 3. Do not let your adorning be external—the braiding of hair and the putting on of gold jewelry, or the clothing you wear— 4. but let your adorning be the hidden person of the heart with the imperishable beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which in God’s sight is very precious. 5. For this is how the holy women who hoped in God used to adorn themselves, by submitting to their own husbands, This same passage also talks about braiding of hair. Don't your women braid their hair? Why do you take braiding of hair and reject wearing of earrings? Your obedience is incomplete. Why do you wear cloth because the passage also talks about wearing of cloth? You people wear the most expensive cloth. Misinterpretation the Bible. What the Bible is talking about is moderation or modest dressing and that a woman's beauty doesn't end in outward appearance but what also is inside her. It is no sin if you don't wear earrings and neither is it a sin if you wear. Their is no proof that the holy women referred to in the passage weren't wearing earring, the most important thing is their faith in God and their submission to their husband. How does wearing earrings affect God? A woman who wears earrings and commits fornication is not different from the one who doesn't wear and commit the same sin. A woman who wears earrings who fears God and avoids sin is in the sight of God better than a sinful woman who doesn't wear earrings. Piercing the ear: why do you cut your hair and tamper with God's temple? Why do you cut your nails tampering with God's temple? Are doing these not making you handsome or beautiful? Imagine how you will look leaving them untouched because you don't want to tamper with God's temple. |
| Re: . by Image123(m): 9:09pm On Jul 06, 2016 |
Ranchhoddas:Are you saying that the OP is not wrong? |
| Re: . by Ranchhoddas: 9:22pm On Jul 06, 2016 |
Image123:I don't have an opinion on whether he's right or wrong. We make our own morality. |
| Re: . by Image123(m): 9:32pm On Jul 06, 2016 |
Ranchhoddas: Ranchhoddas:Choose one. ![]() |
| Re: . by Ranchhoddas: 9:45pm On Jul 06, 2016 |
Image123:I don't care. I am not a woman. Your God does apparently. |
| Re: . by Image123(m): 9:51pm On Jul 06, 2016 |
Ranchhoddas:Hahahahahahaha, got you. |
| Re: . by Ranchhoddas: 9:54pm On Jul 06, 2016 |
Image123:I laughed out loud too. SMH for you. Are you saying your God does not care? |
| Re: . by Image123(m): 9:59pm On Jul 06, 2016 |
Ranchhoddas:No, i'm saying it is not a matter of salvation. God cares about the minutest details like the hairs on our head. However, not everything is rigid or set in stone like 1+1 or a matter of salvation(which you are driving at). |
| Re: . by Ranchhoddas: 10:05pm On Jul 06, 2016 |
Image123:So what will you say about OP. Is he not seving the same God as you? |
| Re: . by Nobody: 10:55pm On Jul 06, 2016*. Modified: 9:25pm On Aug 26, 2016 |
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| Re: . by Image123(m): 4:38pm On Jul 08, 2016 |
Ranchhoddas:i do not need to have anything to say about him/her. i have explained it already, it is not a matter of salvation. We are not saved by clothing, we are saved by grace through faith in Jesus. i have also clearly stated that we do not have to agree on everything, or have the same level of knowledge or understanding or uniformity to be serving the same God. Get that clear. |
| Re: . by truthman2012(m): 4:55pm On Jul 08, 2016*. Modified: 8:50pm On Jul 08, 2016 |
Avoidhellfire:Your choice of language does not portray you as a true Christian. Christians don't insult or abuse people the way you are doing. I doubt your intention in the post. How many women did you hear was rejected in heaven because of earring? How many did you hear made heaven because of not using it? You couldn't substantiate you claim biblically. Stop your man-made doctrine brother and stop discouraging women from going to heaven. Your message does more damage than good. |
| Re: . by Ranchhoddas: 5:53pm On Jul 08, 2016 |
Image123:Are Jehovah's Witnesses also partakers of this salvation? |
| Re: . by oyega(m): 7:53pm On Jul 08, 2016 |
If any of you is been justified by the law, I tell you Christ has profit you nothing. When it was clearly written that the just shall live by faith, why are you debating laws and works as though faith alone is too weak for our salvation. I am afraid of you, lest you might have believed in vain. You have fallen into the errors of the Galatians, who also thought that faith alone would not save them without the deeds of the law, therefore fraustrating the Grace of God. Go ahead, fulfill all the 10 commandments without spot, and prove God wrong Who said "it is only Christ that has ever done that." Do you love perfectly according to God's standard? I believe bad thought don't cross your own mind at all... My dear only one thing is the most important, it is faith in Christ. Don't you read what Christ says concerning law? Its only for heavenly reward, not for salvation of man. If you need Bible passages for this truth I quote me. |
| Re: . by analice107: 11:04pm On Jul 08, 2016 |
Avoidhellfire:The only Scripture you could lay your hands on is 1peter 3:3 and that's not what Peter is saying there. Now let's look at that passage again. 1 Peter 3:3-4 Let not yours be the [merely] external adorning with [elaborate] interweaving and knotting of the hair, the wearing of jewelry, or changes of clothes; But let it be the inward adorning and beauty of the hidden person of the heart, with the incorruptible and unfading charm of a gentle and peaceful spirit, which [is not anxious or wrought up, but] is very precious in the sight of God. Mark "Merely". Let's see the things mentioned here. 1. Weaving or knotting of hair. 2. Wearing of Jewelry. 3. Wearing of Clothes. Now, what is Peter saying here? There are some of us Christians who go to church to show off our wealth, and this is seen in the way we wear the above mentioned. I actually had a friend who actually goes to church to show off clothes and how well she dresses. If she doesn't have a new dress, she will borrow from a friend who doesn't attend the church or won't go to church that day. She doesn't carry a Bible to church, and is not interested in the message preached. All the big chicks and we'll dressed ladies and girls are her friends. When I discovered that, I pulled off from her. Peter is warning Christians against carnality. He is not saying, 'Do not wear them', he is saying "let your attention not be on them and, let your motive not be to show off and oppress others. As Christians, we are suppose to be spiritual beings. Our attention is more on spirituality and less on our physical appearance. But if you insist on women not wearing jewelry, you shd as well say, we shouldn't wear clothes. |
| Re: . by analice107: 11:10pm On Jul 08, 2016 |
truthman2012:Thank you sir. I don't know how these people see God. |
| Re: . by analice107: 11:22pm On Jul 08, 2016 |
Avoidhellfire:Hahahahahaha. Wonderful. This guy!!! Did you just say "Maybe?" you are assuming what the bible clearly states? Did you just say maybe the Jewelries meant golden cups and domestic utensils? From when did utensils become jewelries? Am quite certain you don't know what a figure of speech means. because if you say, God commanding the Jewish women to borrow their neighbours jewelries was a figure of speech, then God's command of the Jews killing and sprinkling the blood on their lintel was also a figure of speech. (How is a common even a speech?) Your babbled on and on incoherently. What Peter said, and what you say are world's apart. |
| Re: . by analice107: 11:27pm On Jul 08, 2016 |
winner01:I really wonder what is keeping these lot so insecure. |
| Re: . by analice107: 11:28pm On Jul 08, 2016 |
otemanuduno:Pls no one shd respond to this person. He belongs in Yabaleft |
| Re: . by analice107: 11:28pm On Jul 08, 2016 |
otemanuduno:Pls no one shd respond to this person. He belongs in habaleft |
| Re: . by analice107: 11:37pm On Jul 08, 2016 |
Ranchhoddas:He gave a blank answer because he doesn't know what he is talking about. Imagine him saying God asking the Israelites to borrow jewelries while leaving Egypt was a figure of speech. The guy is totally nuts and you are here to agree with him even though he is wrong. By all means, you must stand against the truth. |
| Re: . by analice107: 11:39pm On Jul 08, 2016 |
jcross19:Complete shame |
| Re: . by Ranchhoddas: 11:45pm On Jul 08, 2016 |
analice107:Since you have a better answer, I'll ask you the question. Is wearing of earrings moral or immoral? |
| Re: . by analice107: 11:56pm On Jul 08, 2016 |
Ranchhoddas:Let's start here, define morality. And state the Premise upon which you are standing on to define what morality or immorality is. Image asked you a question, is wearing a red dress instead of a white one, immoral or moral? you jumped it. |
| Re: . by Ranchhoddas: 12:09am On Jul 09, 2016 |
analice107:Morality: Beliefs about what is right behaviour and wrong behaviour. My premise is the English dictionary. Wearing a red, white, blue or yellow dress is moral. Now answer my question. |
| Re: . by DeSepiero(m): 2:02am On Jul 09, 2016 |
Avoidhellfire:So much folly in one post. |
| Re: . by Nobody: 3:15am On Jul 10, 2016*. Modified: 9:24pm On Aug 26, 2016 |
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| Re: . by Nobody: 3:21am On Jul 10, 2016*. Modified: 9:23pm On Aug 26, 2016 |
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| Re: . by jcross19: 12:18pm On Jul 10, 2016 |
Avoidhellfire:may God show you mercy,and forgive you and let the truth in the bible judge me and you from today. I have nothing to say . But please can you quote from the bible where it was stated that thou shall not use ornament. Remember israelites have 613 or 603 laws and there is no place where they condemned using ornament in all these laws in the bible. |
| Re: . by jcross19: 12:21pm On Jul 10, 2016 |
truthman2012:I think the op is very poor in understanding things in the bible. Op you need holy spirit to interpret the word to you, mentality have turn to doctrines in church. My people perish because they lack knowledge. |
| Re: . by analice107: 2:16pm On Jul 10, 2016 |
Avoidhellfire:Aww, he is laughing. I wish you were laughing because you indeed know what you are talking about. You picked out earnings and won't touch Clothes, or braiding of weaving hair. What is sinful in wearing earings? Guy, do well to preach rebirth in Christ. Preach repentance from sin, preach forgiveness, preach against Pride, arrogance, self conceitedness, haughtiness, maliciousness, greed, bitterness, wickedness, fornication, idolatry, and the rest. These are the things that keeps people from being spiritually reborn, not wearing ear rings. You talk plenty without making any real sense. |
| Re: . by Nobody: 7:11pm On Jul 10, 2016 |
analice107:Please tell them to preach about key things like ways to inherit eternal life and not trivial issues. These people are tiring with their warped perception of scripture smh... |
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