BABAODU:
I don't know why he won't just try and focus on the standard way of generating electricity, before going for alternative source, just another way to embezzle Nigeria money. All these new technologies requires good maintainance culture which we don't have as a nation.

Pls Mr Fashola, invest in big gas turbines, set up gas turbine farms in the areas that has aboundant natural gas that we are stupidly flaring up at the moment. That way we can generate electricity at cheaper rate and you can reduce tariff.

MasterJayJay:
Each state should be given a mandate to generate at least 1,000 megawatts for the next four years.

aresa:





About Dam, that was a mix up, I was going to reference the other poster.


To address your post.

10 Plants X 5000MW @ $1 Billion/1000MW = $50 Billion


Do you have $50 Billion or do you think Nigeria have N50 Billion?


You plan based on unique situations and available resources, not on fairy tales and what you can not do to sole your immediate problems..






Pakistan is building a collection 10/1000MW solar plants for almost the same amount we are spending so your point is kind of mute..


And about maintenance, this is just ridiculous, Solari is sustainable energy and requires little or no maintenance..

aresa:













What's the difference between what we are spending and what other countries are spending on 1000MW. For 1125 MW, we are actually getting a good deal for our money.

The going rate for 1000MW is $1 billion.

Even the so called 22.500MW $22 billion largest damn you quoted = $1 billion per 1000 MW.

Do a little elementary arithmetic before spewing rubbish and even a little research before spewing ignorance on the internet. Hate and bitterness can not stop us.

Bobbybabs:


Now you are making some sense as regards to the Pakistan case. 10 1000MW solar plants is far better and not the tiny plants you are in support of earlier.

But because solar is sustainable does not mean you will not still budget for maintenance and security. So are you telling me you just set it up and leave it running on its own. Common

Lastly the 10 X 5000mw I suggested is just an example I stated if you have digested my original post very well. 1000mw atleast is very okay and not 70, 100, 80mw etc scattered all over the country.

Nah, not today, not now... I won't insult you, Your ignorance has done that to you already

If you could read effectively maybe you'd have had a better understanding of where am driving at

some countries have the luxury of experimenting with solar powered plants, others like Nigeria don't, we currently have an installed capacity of not more than 7,000MW. Instead of building small plants everywhere, why not build something large to generate what can supply the entire country for about 18 hours daily...

You can say all you want, but i won't stoop to your level of immaturity by trading insults... I'd rather trade opinions with you

Thanks

Femich18:

Lol...its a good move though but where do you expect some States to get 1billion dollars from...States that can't even pay salaries

Nah, not today, not now... I won't insult you, Your ignorance has done that to you already

If you could read effectively maybe you'd have had a better understanding of where am driving at

some countries have the luxury of experimenting with solar powered plants, others like Nigeria don't, we currently have an installed capacity of not more than 7,000MW. Instead of building small plants everywhere, why not build something large to generate what can supply the entire country for about 18 hours daily...

You can say all you want, but i won't stoop to your level of immaturity by trading insults... I'd rather trade opinions with you

Thanks

aresa:


Pakistan is building a collection of solar power plants totaling 1000 MW

Nigeria is building a collection of solar power plants totaling 1125 MW


Ours is 1125 MW

Pakistan is lower @ 1000MW



But Pakistan's smaller total MW is still better than ours?


Smaller is better than larger?

Sometimes I wonder about the basis and rationalization for you people's argument. smh..




It doesn't matter how you cut and dice it, solar is still almost maintenance free unlike hydro, turbines, and even wind.

Solar have little or no moving parts or mechanical formations so breakdowns is minimal and repairs doesn't take days, weeks or months, it takes minutes or hours.




You can not support any argument based on suggestions, unrealistic and impractical ideas.

Earth2Metahuman:
only Lagos can successfully build 1000mw station in this current Nigeria.

Bobbybabs:

No matter how you try to sugar coat your opinion,you know deep down am right but you will never admit it. Instead you are pointing to errors which in essence is obviously as a result of your mistakes.

Please let me be clear ones and for all which I think that where you are having problem with.
Having big plants in my opinion is best as long as each plant is atleast 1000mw. Now that is what I am talking about. Am not in support of tiny plants scattered everywhere.

In my original post, I stated that I do not know much about power generation. All am proposing is the best form of generation should be used considering all factors then we should build big plants for them. Or mostly have big power plants that we can really depend on. For example 1000mw in one state, another 2000mw in this state, another 500mw, 3000mw and so on. I do not like the 80, 70, 100mw idea period.

Please stop all this your solar panel lessons, I did not ask for it. Besides only God know how you got your knowledge on it cos I doubt you are an expert in this field. And please don't tell me you got it from Google because it only makes you look stupid.

No matter how simple a machine looks or function, it still going to need maintenance. Fine you are stating that it is little maintenance. Now have you considered that engineers will have to be stationed in each of these tiny solar plants. In terms of logistics and overhead please do maths before you come here to type poo again.

I rest my case.

aresa:




On top of this projected 1125MW

We still have the 2000MW Azura-Edo IPP in Edo under construction

We still have the 3050MW Mambilla under construction

We still have FG's 215MW in Kaduna under construction

We still have another 100MW by the state government in the same Kaduna under construction

We still 252-MW Gbarain under construction

We still have 378-MW Egbema under construction

We still have 252-MW Omoku under construction




There are thousands of MWs under construction so stop wailing needlessly, Nigeria is ahead of you...

Bobbybabs:



You are so belligerent and contentious. Continue.

aresa:



You had no argument. Argue with facts and not emotions..

MasterJayJay:
Each state should be given a mandate to generate at least 1,000 megawatts for the next four years.

JingoOAU:
Slow and steady=meticulous result

smh...

is it that we lack understanding or the will power to make effective change

For God sakes who builds a 1125 MW plant with $1.75 billion?



mmm everyone
1m per mw bro



You guys may see it as progress, but damn how much do you really know about power generation, its not about the number of stations, rather the capacity. These plants will not be able to deliver up to 45% of their rated capacity to the Grid...



stop saying what you don't know
they lose emf over time! but not 55%




the largest dam in world was built at a cost of $22.5 billion and it generates 22,500 MW of electricity, spare me all the bullshit of littering the whole country with mini-power plants...




what is 22.5bn divided by 22.5



build something tangible, power generation is not rocket science all it takes is just some level of responsiveness to the plight of your people

this is how they will keep on taking us for granted, if we just take anything they bring to our table without us questioning them





who your granted epp for 66 years


so much for change...

smh...

is it that we lack understanding or the will power to make effective change

For God sakes who builds a 1125 MW plant with $1.75 billion?

You guys may see it as progress, but damn how much do you really know about power generation, its not about the number of stations, rather the capacity. These plants will not be able to deliver up to 45% of their rated capacity to the Grid...

the largest dam in world was built at a cost of $22.5 billion and it generates 22,500 MW of electricity, spare me all the bullshit of littering the whole country with mini-power plants...

build something tangible, power generation is not rocket science all it takes is just some level of responsiveness to the plight of your people

this is how they will keep on taking us for granted, if we just take anything they bring to our table without us questioning them

so much for change...

greenpasture:


I hear you.

Here is the thing, economic strategy has to be set in context with the socio political climate. Nigeria is currently a very divided country and the poor economy is feeding these divisions. The countries you mention had/have hostile neighbours that ensure that the country is United enough to take the short term pain necessary to turn them into manufacturing nations. In Nigeria self interest comes first, then tribe, then region and possibly Nigeria if there is a football match.

It's sad but we are consigned to short term fixes because the population isn't prepared to a) trust ( with some justification and b) Take short term pain else this would be a moment of great opportunity.

You listen to the way tribalism and it's division work on this forum. It would take a brave leader to buck that trend. A leader fully prepared to lose the next election as a result.

It's not going to happen. Sad but reality.

Did you really mean the bolded?

In your quest to name me an ignorant fellow, you just ended up embarrassing your whole lineage with unguarded utterances ... Even a year 2 student knows that as long as you want to supply through the grid to distant load points, high voltage is preferred to reduce losses along the lines...

If large power plants are bad how come most advanced nations have at least one or two of power plants ranging from 5000MW above

Please don't try to play smart in a field you know nothing of, if we want to go solar or harvest winds with wind turbines, we should be serious about it and build a large one then transmit it via HVDC...

You guys are just annoying to say the least, ignorant people calling trying to make a point... Smh

Olabestonic001:


Like seriously Do you have any knowledge than the one you gathered from textbooks? Do you know what I do for a living? I work in an Electrical Power Construction company and to think you're bringing textbook knowledge here is pathetic. Do you know what it takes to generate, transmit and distribute? Do you know that your nation just added 600MVA to evacuate from Egbin thermal station? Do you know how much it cost you government? (I'm proudly a Project Engineer on those projects which I doubt you've ever seen the type all your life). What do you even know about Nigeria Electricity? You don't come out to spew thrash on what you just have textbook knowledge about.
Under IKEDC alone, we have embedded Power projects that has helped their distribution area alot. Nigeria should go that way.
For you that is spewing thrash, at what voltage does you nation generate? My company built the 75MW power plant at Portharcourt and I daresay, you have not more than textbook knowledge about your country power sector. An embedded Power project of 8-100MW can be built at ubiquitously. Folks like you just wanna think cos its practised in some countries, its gonna work in your country while not understanding your country.
Your country should rely less on the national grid and only use it to evacuate "surplus" energy to be sold to states that are relying on it. The only downside is that; its expensive to build an embedded power plant than a large power plant. This however is offset by the fact that;
(a) There's no need for a transmission facility.
(b) There's no danger that a sabotage of a plant will embarrass the whole country. This meant that the situation can be controlled and not the one when you have the whole grid collapsing like 3-4 times in a week.
FYI, Your National Grid still collapses 3-4 times every week due to the ailing state of your Transmission Facilities that can only evacuate 6000MW (That is adding the over 600MVA that has just been completed).


N.B: Before you come here to say things, kindly demonstrate that you have more that textbook knowledge. Knowledge without experience always leads to myopic braggadocio.

supersystems:


you're struggling to win an arguement rather than absorbing the points i made.it's okay.

Bobbybabs:

No matter how you try to sugar coat your opinion,you know deep down am right but you will never admit it. Instead you are pointing to errors which in essence is obviously as a result of your mistakes.

Please let me be clear ones and for all which I think that where you are having problem with.
Having big plants in my opinion is best as long as each plant is atleast 1000mw. Now that is what I am talking about. Am not in support of tiny plants scattered everywhere.

In my original post, I stated that I do not know much about power generation. All am proposing is the best form of generation should be used considering all factors then we should build big plants for them. Or mostly have big power plants that we can really depend on. For example 1000mw in one state, another 2000mw in this state, another 500mw, 3000mw and so on. I do not like the 80, 70, 100mw idea period.

Please stop all this your solar panel lessons, I did not ask for it. Besides only God know how you got your knowledge on it cos I doubt you are an expert in this field. And please don't tell me you got it from Google because it only makes you look stupid.

No matter how simple a machine looks or function, it still going to need maintenance. Fine you are stating that it is little maintenance. Now have you considered that engineers will have to be stationed in each of these tiny solar plants. In terms of logistics and overhead please do maths before you come here to type poo again.

I rest my case.

greenpasture:


I've pointed out to you why your idea won't work. If you want more that I am sorry I can't help.

aresa:













What's the difference between what we are spending and what other countries are spending on 1000MW. For 1125 MW, we are actually getting a good deal for our money.

The going rate for 1000MW is $1 billion.

Even the so called 22.500MW $22 billion largest damn you quoted = $1 billion per 1000 MW.

Do a little elementary arithmetic before spewing rubbish and even a little research before spewing ignorance on the internet. Hate and bitterness can not stop us.

missrock:


Edo state is building 2000