Genesis 1

1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.

2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.

3 And God said, "Let there be light," and there was light.

4 God saw that the light was good, and He separated the light from the darkness.

5 God called the light "day," and the darkness he called "night." And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day



I dont know what your understanding of light is? Huh

Neither am I sure of your comprehension skills?

Doesn't it bother you that in the bible light is created before the stars and the sun ? Doesn't it bother you that in the bible the plants are created before the sun ? Where did the light come from ?

Doesn't it bother you that in the bible light is created before the stars and the sun ? Doesn't it bother you that in the bible the plants are created before the sun ? Where did the light come from ?

Bear in mind that all living things were created in mature form, including plant life. The 24 hour period had to be literal, or else life on earth would have been affected by extreme cold temperature, since cold is really an absence of heat.

The light energy that was put in place on day one served as energy for plant life even before the sun was put in place.

Who created the creator ?

Tudór:

Box, carton or plate e no matter!
Whether literal or not literal no one cares. . . . The main thing is the ridiculous creation story is a MYTH therefore all LIES!

Bobbyaf:

@ Atheist

Bear in mind that all living things were created in mature form, including plant life. The 24 hour period had to be literal, or else life on earth would have been affected by extreme cold temperature, since cold is really an absence of heat.

The light energy that was put in place on day one served as energy for plant life even before the sun was put in place.

Um, I don't think you've thought it all the way through. Short of probably a few bacteria, no living thing on Earth can survive the type of cold caused by the lack of a sun for minutes, let alone twenty four hours. So, no, it doesn't have to be a literal twenty four hours, nor does anything have to be mature as they'd be dead in minutes anyway.

By the way, no, it isn't cold that is an absence of heat, it's heat that is an absence of coldness.

Exactly, and that is why I said that the initial light energy that God activated from the first day served to keep life forms before the sun was created on the 4th day.

What can be asserted without evidence can also  be dismissed without evidence

Does the same apply to the Koran as well? I am sure you accept the word of the Koran by faith. Should we dismiss what your understanding of the origins of life is based on the Koran?

Then again absence of proof doesn't mean proof of absence. Christians may not be able to prove how God created, or to provide empirical evidence of creative acts, but the life forms themselves, and the order in which life operates, even at the cellular level makes one wonders.

So because you can't explain the complexity of life you have to attribute to god ? Typical god of the gaps argument.

Thats a different story. When I peer into a microscope I can. Each time I reread my biochem text, or keep myself abreast as to the latest research, I am able to understand the intricacies of the basic unit of life called the cell. And you know what I walk away still believing that the creation story sounds much more plausible than the TOE.

I walk away saying to myself that someone with a superior intelligence had to have made life with its orderly and structured systems.

Honestly it requires more faith to grasp the TOE than it does to grasp the creation story.

Bobbyaf:

Thats a different story. When I peer into a microscope I can. Each time I reread my biochem text, or keep myself abreast as to the latest research, I am able to understand the intricacies of the basic unit of life called the cell. And you know what I walk away still believing that the creation story sounds much more plausible than the TOE.

I walk away saying to myself that someone with a superior intelligence had to have made life with its orderly and structured systems.

Honestly it requires more faith to grasp the TOE than it does to grasp the creation story.

Do you believe in evolution ? Do you believe in the big band theory ?

Bobbyaf:

Even if Moses didn't say so logics alone would have forced me to reject the TOE. It just doesn't make any sense at all. I see life the exact way the creation story portrays it. It hasn't changed.

Bobbyaf:

You really have a heart to ask that of me. By the way that big bang theory has been an embarrassment to the same scientists who believed in it. Or haven't you been aware that it is no longer held as a scientific point of view.

Atheists:

Doesn't it bother you that in the bible light is created before the stars and the sun ? Doesn't it bother you that in the bible the plants are created before the sun ? Where did the light come from ?

Tudór:

^^
I guess the artist was there when the big bang occurred to accurately depict it, right?

the big bang theory model

The majority of mass in galaxies is made up of dark matter, a substance which is not directly observable, and does not interact through any means except gravity

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galaxy_formation

A supernova (pl. supernovae) is a stellar explosion. Supernovae are extremely luminous and cause a burst of radiation that often briefly outshines an entire galaxy, before fading from view over several weeks or months. During this short interval, a supernova can radiate as much energy as the Sun could emit over its life span

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supernova

And believing some magician spoke the world into existence then displayed some Ben enwonwu skill and moulded man from clay the blew some heavy breeze like superman and gave him life. . .WTF?
If that isn't embarrassing then i don't know what.

mazaje:

@tpia

Do you understand what you are saying or trying to illustrate? You are just comparing apples to oranges. . . The bible talks about the creation of the earth before the creation of other things in the universe. . .according to the bible god created the earth first before creating any other thing. . .Even the big bang model you are trying to use to buttress your point does NOT agree with this. . . 

Your pictures show that stars are first created before planets. . .the bible says that the earth was first created before the sun and the stars. . .

tpia.:

kindly reread the posts in question but this time with your eyes open.

We've gone over this before but your pride wont let you reason.

tpia.:


i hope you're aware there are plants which grow in the absence of sunlight?

Many of you atheists seem to trot out old outdated arguments withuot bothering to look at new discoveries being churned out by the day.

There's plant and animal life in deep sea vents which grow without oxygen or light.


here's the big bang theory model (an artist's impression):



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Universe_expansion2.png



and do you see the lights before the individual galaxies and suns?

does it negate Gen 1? Not in my opinion.