Dux01:
... the reason Jesus died is to give us true life.This is only in heaven and begins immediately you surrender to him.

Dux01:
Truth is Spirit.not flesh.athiest CANNOT know the truth because they refuse to believe it.you can never Know The Truth by Looking and Judging with eyes of flesh or ear.Just because you saw or heard that some countries are working heard.researching getting better does not mean you know the truth about them.By now people supposed to have known that Nigeria's problem is not normal.It is Truly Spiritual and can only be solved by spiritual means

Dux01:
Is it the lawlessness of many developed nations that is making them grow?No

Dux01:
When you keep trying to do something over and over again and you can't do it you should know there is something opposing You.

jahstech:

[size=14pt][b]1 Corithians 1:18-25: For the speech about the torture stake is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved, it is God’s power. 19 For it is written: “I will make the wisdom of the wise men perish, and the intelligence of the intellectuals I will reject.” 20 Where is the wise man? Where is the scribe? Where is the debater of this system of things? Has not God made the wisdom of the world foolish? 21 For since, in the wisdom of God, the world did not get to know God through its wisdom, God was pleased through the foolishness of what is preached to save those believing. 22 For the Jews ask for signs and the Greeks look for wisdom; 23 but we preach Christ executed on the stake, to the Jews a cause for stumbling but to the nations(you included) it is foolishness. 24 However, to those who are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ is the power of God and the wisdom of God. 25 Because a foolish thing of God is wiser than men, and a weak thing of God is stronger than men.[/b][/size]

Who is the fool now?
Don't come to conclusion on what you don't understand, believe whatever you want but don't trample on others because of what they believe since you are too WISE to inquire why they choose to believe what they do..

dearpreye:


While we don't want to argue about eternity here, we won't continue to live in pits and primitive villages because of it. One can live in a decent environment and still get the eternity you are so worried about.

Who even told you about eternity? The same Whites that killed your fellow Africans in their millions during the slave trade? Wake up. We are gradually leaving religion behind.

donofdons:
[b]it is a matter of brains...it is because many Nigerians have an IQ of less than 80 and believe that God was a jewish carpenter who was the deluded bastard son of an acclaimed virgin who was lied to by his mother that God impregnated her and who ended up believing it and allowing himself to be crucified only to realize his folly on the cross then crying out to his imaginary father in heaven asking why he has forsaken him.
This same man is called the lion of the tribe of judah while he was even weaker than a sheep, he goes around making statement like he is the king of the jews and even telling the priests that he will pull down their temples and rebuild it in 3 days and when asked to do that claimed that he isnt talking about the temple but his body.
A man that can believe in a talking donkey and a fish swallowing jonah can believe anything and is worst than a slave.
But romans no de carry last them beat nonsense commot for him body and his apostle stole his body and claimed he rose up on the 3rd day and went to heaven and na only the see am, even the mother did not see him self
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donofdons:
[b]it is a matter of brains...it is because many Nigerians have an IQ of less than 80 and believe that God was a jewish carpenter who was the deluded bastard son of an acclaimed virgin who was lied to by his mother that God impregnated her and who ended up believing it and allowing himself to be crucified only to realize his folly on the cross then crying out to his imaginary father in heaven asking why he has forsaken him.
This same man is called the lion of the tribe of judah while he was even weaker than a sheep, he goes around making statement like he is the king of the jews and even telling the priests that he will pull down their temples and rebuild it in 3 days and when asked to do that claimed that he isnt talking about the temple but his body.
A man that can believe in a talking donkey and a fish swallowing jonah can believe anything and is worst than a slave.
But romans no de carry last them beat nonsense commot for him body and his apostle stole his body and claimed he rose up on the 3rd day and went to heaven and na only the see am, even the mother did not see him self
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themosthigh:
Because most nigerians are still slave to the lies sold to them by the whiteman about a naked crucfied jewish insane man called christ who believed he is the son of God and the ended up been crucified naked on the cross and dying as hoplessly and uselessly as he had lived only to be worshiped and revered by new set of fools

dearpreye:
We need to actually stop abusing religion.

Why did we copy the Whites man's religion without copying his science and technology? Religion doesn't create a developed nation. It only produces lazy folks who will rather throw their hands upwards to Heaven to pray instead of engaging their BRAINS. God didn't give us brains for a souvenir. No nation ever became great through some lazy, docile prayers.

Every nation developed through hard work, critical thinking, research, sweat, rule of law, nationwide ethics of honour and sacrifice. Prayers don't build nations.

Why did we abandon our native intelligence after we met with the Whites? The Japanese, Chinese, Indians, etc, still uphold their religions while they pursue Western intelligence, science and logic.

How many African nations are nuclear powers?

Nigeria has an insulting 4000 MW for a whole 170 million people.

How many libraries are close to you? How many of us read at all?

danowena:
I tire.. over-spirituality is worrying us.

dearpreye:
We need to actually stop abusing religion.

Why did we copy the Whites man's religion without copying his science and technology? Religion doesn't create a developed nation. It only produces lazy folks who will rather throw their hands upwards to Heaven to pray instead of engaging their BRAINS. God didn't give us brains for a souvenir. No nation ever became great through some lazy, docile prayers.

Every nation developed through hard work, critical thinking, research, sweat, rule of law, nationwide ethics of honour and sacrifice. Prayers don't build nations.

Why did we abandon our native intelligence after we met with the Whites? The Japanese, Chinese, Indians, etc, still uphold their religions while they pursue Western intelligence, science and logic.

How many African nations are nuclear powers?

Nigeria has an insulting 4000 MW for a whole 170 million people.

How many libraries are close to you? How many of us read at all?

danowena:
I tire.. over-spirituality is worrying us.

mmsen:


It's not 'we blacks'. There's a hardcore of mentally unstable people who hear voices, talk to the sky and think that a deity talks back to them

Many Nigerians, an increasing number, recognize the lunacy of religion and the lie of spiritual causes but you cannot have rational discourse with an insane person which is why it is so difficult to change the minds of some.

This is especially true of the people in Nigerian society who go to church 3/4 times a week and have negative things to say about those of us who are not religious.

Svengali:
Because Nigerians refuse to examine the root cause of many of their problems. Many times, we're the underlying cause of the problems we face, but we blacks are always reluctant to accept the bitter truth. We don't believe we're evil but we think others are.

mmsen:


It's not 'we blacks'. There's a hardcore of mentally unstable people who hear voices, talk to the sky and think that a deity talks back to them

Many Nigerians, an increasing number, recognize the lunacy of religion and the lie of spiritual causes but you cannot have rational discourse with an insane person which is why it is so difficult to change the minds of some.

This is especially true of the people in Nigerian society who go to church 3/4 times a week and have negative things to say about those of us who are not religious.

Rapmoney:
If we call on God for every issue, even those caused by us, then why do we have brains as living beings?

Often times, I have religious leaders calling on members of the public to pray so that our rulers would stop misappropriating public funds! I tell you, punishing anyone who steals seriously will be more effective than praying for them not to steal!

EVILFOREST:
BLACKS don't know anything.
BLACKS need to be recolonised for life.
BLACKS can't govern blacks

Bluffly:
The truth is, it will take a while for this mentality to disappear because the African black environment is highly enmeshed in spiritual evils unlike other race. Until we start to practice spirituality for the benefit of mankind at the traditional level and believe that work and prayer works together and not prayer and look.

TrajansKong:


You are the perfect example of what the OP was talking about.

All our problems come from this.

Other populations THINK. People like you just BELIEVE and mistake that for intelligence.

It is embarrassing. We have nothing to show for our faith and belief. Not one pencil factory

For the sake of Africa, please do not reproduce.

blueAgent:


100% true blacks are zombies. even if they turn Atheists do will still remain undeveloped. religeon is not their problem.

blueAgent:



The Bible says faith without work is dead. even if you remove religeon from Africans, they will still be poor.becos they are Selfish,greed,and mentally lazy.

TrajansKong:

Ah.
Got it.
You're a Whaaart Saaarth Effrikkan Loser.

TrajansKong:


OK, blueAgent.

Who are you?

Why your bizarre obsession with IQ?

Why such extreme Christian dementia?

What is your own solution to the problems you perceive?

Are you even a Black person?

What do are you doing on Nairaland at all?

blueAgent:


Africans and blacks have low IQ , whereever.you find blacks westher in US,China,india,Japan or Africa you will still get the same results. Choas.

TrajansKong:


Still haven't answered my questions.

Who are you?

Why are you here?

What are your solutions to the issues raised by the OP?

Can Jesus or Hendrik Verwoerd supply you with an answer, blueAgent??

blueAgent:
Choas.

blueAgent:


Iam not Obliged to answer your questions.
Till Africans become honest to themselves and work hard rather than blame others , nothing will get better.

lepasharon:


The so called personal relationship with God is the cause of the stupidity of Africans in the first place