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Re: Communist Leaders And Atheists; Is There Any Difference? by Ranchhoddas: 7:39pm On Aug 12, 2016 |
winner01:Ogbeni. You are not getting off easily. Hitler believed Christianity to be a mockery of the Godhead. If you cannot show that Hitler was atheist, then you have to tender an apology to all the atheists on this forum for your unending lies. 1 Like |
Re: Communist Leaders And Atheists; Is There Any Difference? by winner01(m): 9:58pm On Aug 12, 2016 |
AnonyNymous:You care, thats why you want people to disbelieve in God with you. Again, how do you intend to reduce religious power and influence without infringing on the rights of people. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Communist Leaders And Atheists; Is There Any Difference? by winner01(m): 10:07pm On Aug 12, 2016 |
Weah96:A Creator wont be burdened about ideas or constraints if He didnt care about us. Whoever puts us here cares what humans do. Its rational to believe that. So its not even about religion, its about foreign religion to you? |
Re: Communist Leaders And Atheists; Is There Any Difference? by Nobody: 12:13am On Aug 13, 2016 |
winner01:Mouth? U Are not serious if I should bring statistic this thread will not end!! Only the inquisition could take 7pages...don't even try joking with me am not ready for that! www.nairaland.com/attachments/3870565_adolfwetolerate_jpeg6cd74b11072a7b002412f0a41b2ef6e7 |
Re: Communist Leaders And Atheists; Is There Any Difference? by Weah96: 12:19am On Aug 13, 2016 |
winner01: Traditional religions represent a cultural identity. Many atheist Jews practice judaism, Ari Shaffir the comedian, for example. Yoruba people have a culture and value system which cannot be removed from their ancestral spirituality. Chinese people may be atheist in principle and yet still practice Taoism culturally. |
Re: Communist Leaders And Atheists; Is There Any Difference? by winner01(m): 1:05am On Aug 13, 2016 |
AmenRa1: Mouth!!!. Most atheists here have also christian quotes to their names before they became atheists. Those quotes were in 1929. Look at that date im about to provide very well, then show me his christian quotes after those dates. winner01: So get to work dude. |
Re: Communist Leaders And Atheists; Is There Any Difference? by winner01(m): 1:08am On Aug 13, 2016 |
Weah96:So in a nutshell, christianity took away our cultural identity? |
Re: Communist Leaders And Atheists; Is There Any Difference? by Nobody: 1:25am On Aug 13, 2016 |
winner01:Funny the same 1941+ this quote we're made "I am Catholic and will remain so until the day I die"– HITLER , 1941 “Along with the fight for a purer morality we have taken upon ourselves the struggle against the decomposition of our religion. We have therefore taken up the struggle against the Godless movement, and not just with a few theoretical declarations; we have stamped it out. And above all we have dragged the priests out of the lowlands of the political party struggle and have brought them back into the church." -Adolf Hitler, In celebration of Germany’s exit from the League of Nations, maintains that the Third Reich actively implements the Christian agenda , 1945[/b] "I often feel that we will have to undergo all the trials the devil and hell can devise before we achieve Final Victory....I may be no pious churchgoer, but deep within me I am nevertheless a devout man. That is to say, I believe that he who fights valiantly obeying the laws which a god has established and who never capitulates but instead gathers his forces time after time and always pushes forward—such a man will not be abandoned by the Lawgiver. Rather he will ultimately receive the blessing of Providence. And that blessing has been imparted to all great spirits in history." - Adolf Hitler, as quoted from Albert Speer's Inside the Third Reich: Memoirs (1982) “Originally, Christianity was merely an incarnation of Bolshevism the destroyer. Nevertheless, the Galilean, who later was called Christ, intended something quite different. He must be regarded as a popular leader who too up His position against Jewry. Galilee was a colony where the Romans had probably installed Gallic legionaries, and it's certain that Jesus was not a Jew. The Jews, by the way, regarded Him as the son of a LovePeddler-- of a LovePeddler and a Roman soldier ... The decisive falsification of Jesus' doctrine was the work of St. Paul. He gave himself to this work with subtlety and for purposes of personal exploitation. For the Galiean's object was to liberate His country from Jewish oppression. He set Himself against Jewish capitalism, and that's why the Jews liquidated Him.” – Adolf Hitler , Table-Talk (page 76) “ Christ was an Aryan, and St. Paul used his doctrine to mobilize the criminal underworld and thus organize a proto-Bolshevism.” – Adolf Hitler Table-Talk (page 143) "With satanic joy in his face, the black-haired Jewish youth lurks in wait for the unsuspecting girl whom he defiles with his blood, thus stealing her from her people" – Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf “The best characterization is provided by the product of this religious education, the Jew himself. His life is only of this world, and his spirit is inwardly as alien to true Christianity as his nature two thousand years previous was to the great founder of the new doctrine. Of course, the latter made no secret of his attitude toward the Jewish people, and when necessary he even took the whip to drive from the temple of the Lord this adversary of all humanity, who then as always saw in religion nothing but an instrument for his business existence. In return, Christ was nailed to the cross, while our present- day party Christians debase themselves to begging for Jewish votes at elections and later try to arrange political swindles with atheistic Jewish parties-- and this against their own nation.” – Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf “Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.” – Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf 1 Like |
Re: Communist Leaders And Atheists; Is There Any Difference? by Nobody: 1:38am On Aug 13, 2016 |
Winner01 u christian lies won't work with me!! 3 Likes |
Re: Communist Leaders And Atheists; Is There Any Difference? by winner01(m): 2:11am On Aug 13, 2016 |
AmenRa1:I'm very happy people can see this. 1. The first quote is not true and has been refuted by reputable secular historians. It was added by desperate individuals. 2. You purposely changed the date of the second quote to 1945, when it was actually made in 1933. The statement was made in celebration of germany's exit from the league of nations in 1933. The picture below is additional proof. 3. The remaining quotes have no dates, you still have enough time to cook up dates for them. 1 Like 1 Share
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Re: Communist Leaders And Atheists; Is There Any Difference? by winner01(m): 2:16am On Aug 13, 2016 |
AmenRa1:Ok, I don hear. Quickly cook up fake dates for the rest of the quotes like you did to the second quote. |
Re: Communist Leaders And Atheists; Is There Any Difference? by Nobody: 3:40am On Aug 13, 2016 |
winner01:Me cook up date? U are very stupid!! After he finished killing the Jews as a Christian he then converted to what?? |
Re: Communist Leaders And Atheists; Is There Any Difference? by Nobody: 8:44am On Aug 13, 2016 |
winner01:You conveniently ignored me saying 'that's how it should be' Apart from that, I could care less about whether you stay or remain a Christian. If YOU are seeing me exposing illogical passages as an attempt to deconvert you, then you should review things with yourself. Lol. Religion has too much influence. First of all, completely separate religion from state. Stop religious propaganda. Separate religion completely from politics! Stop giving special graces to people on the basis that they're religious. Operate strictly secular laws. See how much we lost giving people reduced exchange rates for their pilgrimage. Local laws should include requiring religious people to obtain noise permits: same as the type that SHOULd be required for any party or social gathering. There's so much to do. . . to reduce religious influence. Let whatever you serve be for you only. Religion is the ONLY untaxed business. 3 Likes |
Re: Communist Leaders And Atheists; Is There Any Difference? by hopefulLandlord: 10:13am On Aug 13, 2016 |
winner01:Prove this with reputable links, thanks |
Re: Communist Leaders And Atheists; Is There Any Difference? by KingEbukasBlog(m): 10:50am On Aug 13, 2016 |
AnonyNymous: Winner01 , Atheistic Logic : I dont understand this particular bible verse therefore it is illogical Good Lord !!! These atheists have been brainwashed to the point of no return . Just like the other day he thought God gave birth to Jesus and called God Jesus' dad . Make these atheists go sidon jare ... 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Communist Leaders And Atheists; Is There Any Difference? by KingEbukasBlog(m): 11:49am On Aug 13, 2016 |
AnonyNymous: Arguing with atheists can very exasperating especially when you guys choose to be disingenuous . However, I would like to point out one thing. Atheism and Anti-theism are two distinct philosophies. . . the former is unbelief, and the second is a counter belief. There are many overlapping principles, common to both, but there are differences. The quote 'abolish religion and impose atheism' - it crosses the thin line from atheism to anti-theism. Communism as an ideology is can only be successful in an atheistic community. However, forcefully imposing communism will lead to anti-theistic actions. If you recall, in my first reply, I said this Marxist idea was ideal, but not practically applicable. Lol . Let me explain it to you Rabid theism = Fanaticism or extremism Rabid atheism = anti-theism Religious extremists or rabid theists are the ones who are malevolent towards you because you don't agree or share the same beliefsor religious ideologies with them. Rabid atheists are the ones who are malevolent towards you because you believe in a God, are religious or don't agree with their atheist ideologies . Religious extremism or rabid theism does not tolerate having a different religious ideology or none at all . Rabid atheism or anti-theism like the communists practice does not tolerate having a religious ideology also intolerant to religious practices . This is simple bro . You atheists blame religion for adversities but cry foul when atheism is blamed ? Religious ideologies can induce extremism ,atheistic ideologies can induce rabid atheism or anti-theism .
Subjective morality is morality based on personal perspective, feelings, beliefs and desires. And those communist atheist leaders killed because from their personal perspective , feelings , beliefs and desires to annihilate religion or the supposed encumbrance which is the defiant religious people was right . I mean you even said that subjective morality wants the best for mankind and atheist leaders saw the best way forward from their perspective was the extermination of religious people and their practices . Such wickedness ! Such evil !Tufiakwa ! So yes yes yes atheism is to be blamed for the death of over 250 million people . My God ! 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Communist Leaders And Atheists; Is There Any Difference? by winner01(m): 1:09pm On Aug 13, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog:Lmao 1 Like 1 Share
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Re: Communist Leaders And Atheists; Is There Any Difference? by dalaman: 3:32pm On Aug 13, 2016 |
winner01:Where did Moa kill people in the name of atheism like say Moses, Ezekiel, Joshua and all the genocidal idiots in your bible who killed people ONLY because Yahweh told them to according to the bible? 2 Likes |
Re: Communist Leaders And Atheists; Is There Any Difference? by dalaman: 3:36pm On Aug 13, 2016 |
winner01: On which issue is the bible clear? You have not even convinced your selves on the true nature if Jesus i.e if he is God or God and his son at the same time. If the bible is clear then why is christianity in such a great state of confusion with different sects and denominatons all at each other's neck claiming the true interpretation of what the bible days? 2 Likes |
Re: Communist Leaders And Atheists; Is There Any Difference? by hopefulLandlord: 4:23pm On Aug 13, 2016 |
Ranchhoddas: Interesting |
Re: Communist Leaders And Atheists; Is There Any Difference? by KingEbukasBlog(m): 4:26pm On Aug 13, 2016 |
dalaman: Those people delivered Israel from their captors or oppressors they were judges - rulers who saw them through war |
Re: Communist Leaders And Atheists; Is There Any Difference? by KingEbukasBlog(m): 4:34pm On Aug 13, 2016 |
dalaman: 1Corinthians 1 : 10 I appeal to you, brothers, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that all of you agree together, so that there may be no divisions among you and that you may be united in mind and conviction. Matthew 7: 15 15Beware of false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. 1 1 Like 1 Share
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Re: Communist Leaders And Atheists; Is There Any Difference? by Ranchhoddas: 4:41pm On Aug 13, 2016 |
hopefulLandlord:On the Nazi army belt is the inscription GOTT MITT UNS meaning God with us. An atheist probably would have got rid of it. Hitler's soldiers always swore an oath of fealty in the name of God. An athiest would not have allowed this. Winner01 has a way of forgetting to include these parts in his numerous threads. |
Re: Communist Leaders And Atheists; Is There Any Difference? by winner01(m): 4:52pm On Aug 13, 2016 |
dalaman:Dont cry!!! "We will substitute materialism for [philosophical] idealism and atheism for theism."- Mao Zedong, Examples Of Dialectics, 1959 Do you want 10 more? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Communist Leaders And Atheists; Is There Any Difference? by dalaman: 5:04pm On Aug 13, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: That's what christians all accuse each other of. Even your pastor is a false prophet according to other christians. There is no universal christian doctrine that is acceptable by all. Throwing empty bible passages doesn't help here. 1 Like |
Re: Communist Leaders And Atheists; Is There Any Difference? by KingEbukasBlog(m): 5:06pm On Aug 13, 2016 |
dalaman: Don't blame me if you can't understand that those bible verses refute your claims . 1 Like |
Re: Communist Leaders And Atheists; Is There Any Difference? by hopefulLandlord: 5:09pm On Aug 13, 2016 |
dalaman: Hahahahahahahahaha, so true brother, so true |
Re: Communist Leaders And Atheists; Is There Any Difference? by dalaman: 5:09pm On Aug 13, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: Shut up. Just the way ISIS and BH are also judges right? Delivered them from captors or land grabbers and theives? If we are to go by your pathetic reasoning we can as well conclude that Moa was also a judge who also wanted to keep people in line who saw his people through a difficult time. In fact he is still honoured and revered in China till tomorrow. It's funny and pathetic that you accuse others of genocide and then use this elusive God idea of yours who you claim is the epitome of all morality to justify genocide. Pathetic. 2 Likes |
Re: Communist Leaders And Atheists; Is There Any Difference? by hopefulLandlord: 5:11pm On Aug 13, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: We don't blame you for your not understanding Dalaman's claim |
Re: Communist Leaders And Atheists; Is There Any Difference? by dalaman: 5:13pm On Aug 13, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: Refutes which claims? Are all christians united? Do christians agree? Is your pastor not a false prophet according to another chiristain? Where is the standard Christains doctrine or church? |
Re: Communist Leaders And Atheists; Is There Any Difference? by dalaman: 5:15pm On Aug 13, 2016 |
winner01: I just want one where he said he killed all the people because he wanted them to be atheist. |
Re: Communist Leaders And Atheists; Is There Any Difference? by KingEbukasBlog(m): 5:16pm On Aug 13, 2016 |
hopefulLandlord: You've never made sense when you try to use someone's post against him . Try harder , one day you'll be a quarter like me . |
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