@Ranchhoddas
I've read your posts about faith healing and I'll just like to talk about them.
1) Changing Hemoglobin Genotype (SS to AA)
It's medically impossible to change the Genotype from one to the other.
However genotype results in Nigeria should be taken with a pinch of salt. You know why I said that? Because a lot of road side laboratories​ are run by quacks and they churn out fake results. Genotype result should be accepted after it has been run by at least 3 different Government hospital owned laboratories.
I've seen cases where a partner was told that they're AA then they go ahead to marry an AS partner then end up having SS kids.
Genotype could also "change" after a blood transfusion, but it goes back to the status quo after 3 months.
There are sickle cell disease looking patients that don't have SS genotype, but a quack looks at them, puts down SS genotype, then when it's repeated at another lab, shows AA
We have also seen cases where after a faith healing episode, patient will come to the hospital with a lab result showing that genotype has changed, then years later, same patient will come to the hospital with severe anaemia and repeat genotype will show that it's SS.

2) The body can take care of Stage IV cancer in very rare cases. How it happens is that the immune system after being repeatedly assaulted by these cancer cells make a precise response to these cells and kill them off.
The primary Gene mutation that gave rise to the cancer cells is still there, but the immune system now has memory of these cells, so anytime they are produced, they are killed off.
A classic example of this is a coven of prostitutes in Uganda who have been found to be immune to HIV.
To religious people, that is a miracle, but it has a very simple explanation.
After being repeatedly exposed to very large numbers of different strains of HIV, this has heightened the sensitivity and activity of the immune system, so, any cell infected with the HIV is killed off.
I hope this explains it all to you.

CatfishBilly:
@Ranchhoddas
I've read your posts about faith healing and I'll just like to talk about them.
1) Changing Hemoglobin Genotype (SS to AA)
It's medically impossible to change the Genotype from one to the other.
However genotype results in Nigeria should be taken with a pinch of salt. You know why I said that? Because a lot of road side laboratories​ are run by quacks and they churn out fake results. Genotype result should be accepted after it has been run by at least 3 different Government hospital owned laboratories.
I've seen cases where a partner was told that they're AA then they go ahead to marry an AS partner then end up having SS kids.
Genotype could also "change" after a blood transfusion, but it goes back to the status quo after 3 months.
There are sickle cell disease looking patients that don't have SS genotype, but a quack looks at them, puts down SS genotype, then when it's repeated at another lab, shows AA
We have also seen cases where after a faith healing episode, patient will come to the hospital with a lab result showing that genotype has changed, then years later, same patient will come to the hospital with severe anaemia and repeat genotype will show that it's SS.

2) The body can take care of Stage IV cancer in very rare cases. How it happens is that the immune system after being repeatedly assaulted by these cancer cells make a precise response to these cells and kill them off.
The primary Gene mutation that gave rise to the cancer cells is still there, but the immune system now has memory of these cells, so anytime they are produced, they are killed off.
A classic example of this is a coven of prostitutes in Uganda who have been found to be immune to HIV.
To religious people, that is a miracle, but it has a very simple explanation.H
After being repeatedly exposed to very large numbers of different strains of HIV, this has heightened the sensitivity and activity of the immune system, so, any cell infected with the HIV is killed off.
I hope this explains it all to you.

Is it not curious that these things often happen after bouts of prayers are offered?

Ranchhoddas:
Is it not curious that these things often happen after bouts of prayers are offered?

Sure, it is, no doubt.
But you also have to account for confirmation bias and expectational bias.
The eye sees what it wants to see.

CatfishBilly:
@Ranchhoddas
I've read your posts about faith healing and I'll just like to talk about them.
1) Changing Hemoglobin Genotype (SS to AA)
It's medically impossible to change the Genotype from one to the other.
However genotype results in Nigeria should be taken with a pinch of salt. You know why I said that? Because a lot of road side laboratories​ are run by quacks and they churn out fake results. Genotype result should be accepted after it has been run by at least 3 different Government hospital owned laboratories.
I've seen cases where a partner was told that they're AA then they go ahead to marry an AS partner then end up having SS kids.
Genotype could also "change" after a blood transfusion, but it goes back to the status quo after 3 months.
There are sickle cell disease looking patients that don't have SS genotype, but a quack looks at them, puts down SS genotype, then when it's repeated at another lab, shows AA
We have also seen cases where after a faith healing episode, patient will come to the hospital with a lab result showing that genotype has changed, then years later, same patient will come to the hospital with severe anaemia and repeat genotype will show that it's SS.

2) The body can take care of Stage IV cancer in very rare cases. How it happens is that the immune system after being repeatedly assaulted by these cancer cells make a precise response to these cells and kill them off.
The primary Gene mutation that gave rise to the cancer cells is still there, but the immune system now has memory of these cells, so anytime they are produced, they are killed off.
A classic example of this is a coven of prostitutes in Uganda who have been found to be immune to HIV.
To religious people, that is a miracle, but it has a very simple explanation.
After being repeatedly exposed to very large numbers of different strains of HIV, this has heightened the sensitivity and activity of the immune system, so, any cell infected with the HIV is killed off.
I hope this explains it all to you.

Genotype doesn't change 3 months post blood transfusion, it can't and will never change. Blood group can, the only things capable of changing the genotypes are mutations, marrow transplant aside those nothing can change genotype

CatfishBilly:
@Ranchhoddas
I've read your posts about faith healing and I'll just like to talk about them.
1) Changing Hemoglobin Genotype (SS to AA)
It's medically impossible to change the Genotype from one to the other.
However genotype results in Nigeria should be taken with a pinch of salt. You know why I said that? Because a lot of road side laboratories​ are run by quacks and they churn out fake results. Genotype result should be accepted after it has been run by at least 3 different Government hospital owned laboratories.
I've seen cases where a partner was told that they're AA then they go ahead to marry an AS partner then end up having SS kids.
Genotype could also "change" after a blood transfusion, but it goes back to the status quo after 3 months.
There are sickle cell disease looking patients that don't have SS genotype, but a quack looks at them, puts down SS genotype, then when it's repeated at another lab, shows AA
We have also seen cases where after a faith healing episode, patient will come to the hospital with a lab result showing that genotype has changed, then years later, same patient will come to the hospital with severe anaemia and repeat genotype will show that it's SS.

2) The body can take care of Stage IV cancer in very rare cases. How it happens is that the immune system after being repeatedly assaulted by these cancer cells make a precise response to these cells and kill them off.
The primary Gene mutation that gave rise to the cancer cells is still there, but the immune system now has memory of these cells, so anytime they are produced, they are killed off.
A classic example of this is a coven of prostitutes in Uganda who have been found to be immune to HIV.
To religious people, that is a miracle, but it has a very simple explanation.
After being repeatedly exposed to very large numbers of different strains of HIV, this has heightened the sensitivity and activity of the immune system, so, any cell infected with the HIV is killed off.
I hope this explains it all to you.

N.B: Sorry I quoted you without seeing the post, NL removed everything I had contributed. Will modify the post and resend
MODIFIED: My chief, during nysc there was this woman 4/5 of her children were SS. She came that the pastor told her to come do her children's genotypes again that he was going to give them something spiritual that would not only change their genotypes but reduce the WBCs (I was marveled lol). So I did and gave them their results which was normal with HbSS patients.
Fast forward 6 months later she came to confirm the miracle. We took sample ran the genotype Lo and Behold .........(Ghenghen) my brother nothing nothing rather WBC was now doubling it's " normal " when they were managed in the hospital before.
I tell people before I believe any medically impossible miracle, the result must come from a government owned facility whether secondary or tertiary

nelszx:

Genotype doesn't change 3 months post blood transfusion, it can't and will never change. Blood group can, the only things capable of changing the genotypes are mutations, marrow transplant aside those nothing can change genotype

Where did I write that Genotype will change 3 months after transfusion?
What gives you that idea that blood group can change?

CatfishBilly:

Where did I write that Genotype will change 3 months after transfusion?

CatfishBilly:

"Genotype could also "change" after a blood transfusion, but it goes back to the status quo after 3 months".

What gives you that idea that blood group can change?

Not what gives me that idea, I know it does
Things that can change blood group
1. Chimera phenomenon (Chimerism)
2. Cis - ab phenomenon
3. Rectal disease / infection by Klebsiella after it must have gone into systemic circulation.
4. Blood transfusion (though excessive): For a short while before it goes back to normal
5. Mutations

nelszx:





Not what gives me that idea, I know it does
Things that can change blood group
1. Chimera phenomenon (Chimerism)
2. Cis - ab phenomenon
3. Rectal disease / infection by Klebsiella after it must have gone into systemic circulation.
4. Blood transfusion (though excessive): For a short while before it goes back to normal
5. Mutations

You didn't see the part where I said it goes back to the status quo after 3 months?
Average life cycle of RBC is 120 days, so no doctor will order for a genotype or blood group within 3 months of a blood transfusion because the result would be unreliable.


Factors that determine Blood​ groups are encoded in genes, so only things that can alter the gene example mutation, chimera and stuff can change the blood group. I doubt that your Klebsiella thing.

CatfishBilly:

You didn't see the part where I said it goes back to the status quo after 3 months?
Average life cycle of RBC is 120 days, so no doctor will order for a genotype or blood group within 3 months of a blood transfusion because the result would be unreliable.

A doctor can order a genotype even a day after transfusion it still wouldn't change. Only the blood group will (thats if the patient received a different blood type)

Factors that determine Blood​ groups are encoded in genes, so only things that can alter the gene example mutation, chimera and stuff can change the blood group. I doubt that your Klebsiella thing.

Don't just doubt always confirm and if I'm wrong call to my attention. Klebsiella produces enzymes when in systemic circulation that can change blood group A or B to O.

nelszx:

A doctor can order a genotype even a day after transfusion it still wouldn't change. Only the blood group will (thats if the patient received a different blood type)




Don't just doubt always confirm and if I'm wrong call to my attention. Klebsiella produces enzymes when in systemic circulation that can change blood group A or B to O.

When I was in LUTH,. an SCD patient did Hb Genotype after transfusion and it was AA after 3 months, it went back to SS. So it won't be like I'm telling you fairy tales. Ask doctors around you, no one orders for genotype or blood group within 3 months after transfusion.

I was trying to be polite, throughout​ my 2 semesters of studying microbiology, it was never mentioned that Klebsiella triggers gene mutation, so it's impossible to change blood group. I'm not talking about circulating RBC now, I'm talking about genetic source.
So, you lied or alternatively, post your source.

CatfishBilly:


When I was in LUTH,. an SCD patient did Hb Genotype after transfusion and it was AA after 3 months, it went back to SS. So it won't be like I'm telling you fairy tales. Ask doctors around you, no one orders for genotype or blood group within 3 months after transfusion.

I was trying to be polite, throughout​ my 2 semesters of studying microbiology, it was never mentioned that Klebsiella triggers gene mutation, so it's impossible to change blood group. I'm not talking about circulating RBC now, I'm talking about genetic source.
So, you lied or alternatively, post your source.

https://www.quora.com/Can-a-persons-blood-group-change-from-A+-to-B+
www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/topic/192856-are-blood-groups-unstable/

Enzymes that changes the sugar moieties on the surfaces of A and B. Read the biotech analysis too
You studied Medical microbiology for 2 semesters, I specialised in Medical Microbiology

nelszx:


https://www.quora.com/Can-a-persons-blood-group-change-from-A+-to-B+
Enzymes that changes the sugar moieties on the surfaces of A and B
You studied Medical microbiology for 2 semesters, I specialised in Medical Microbiology (B.MLS)

Okay, the issue of Genotype has been settled.


You're still talking about circulating RBC. Sure bacteria enzyme changes the surface sugars. When that batch of RBC die off or the Infection is contained, the blood group goes back to status quo, so it didn't change.
If it changed, it would have been permanent and the only thing that can change blood group is at the genetic level.
It just like a Pseudomonas Infection that might activate the same channel as a cystic fibrosis patient. You won't because of that and declare the person a cystic fibrosis patient because after the Infection resolves, the channel goes back to normal.

CatfishBilly:

Okay, the issue of Genotype has been settled.


You're still talking about circulating RBC. Sure bacteria enzyme changes the surface sugars. When that batch of RBC die off or the Infection is contained, the blood group goes back to status quo, so it didn't change.
If it changed, it would have been permanent and the only thing that can change blood group is at the genetic level.
It just like a Pseudomonas Infection that might activate the same channel as a cystic fibrosis patient. You won't because of that and declare the person a cystic fibrosis patient because after the Infection resolves, the channel goes back to normal.

True, it goes back to status quo after infection or elimination of the red cells (eryptosis) and also true about the pseudomonas and cystic fibrosis channel.
Thanks and case dismissed

MutantMetahuman:
Okay my religious people in the house...



I have been an atheist for more than 7 years now after spending a big chunk of me life running from my shadow..


But I'm not close minded to the idea of god.. Please give me one good reason why you think I should go back to believing god.

And please have in mind that you are trying to convince someone that applies or try really hard to apply logic or common knowledge to everything he does. So don't bring the faith mumbo jumbo..
I not gona have faith or believed that swallowing a stone would cure head ache unless the person proves it.

Thanks.

Waiting...... No trolls please.

Stop been an Atheist..
You believe that the Existence of God is true but For Seven years now you live a life of an Atheist asking why you should go back to God.
First, So you may be save from the punishment of the grave and hereafter life..

Pls, I will advice you to go back to God..
#ISLAM is the key...

Free to ask any Question..

MutantMetahuman:
Okay my religious people in the house...



I have been an atheist for more than 7 years now after spending a big chunk of me life running from my shadow..


But I'm not close minded to the idea of god.. Please give me one good reason why you think I should go back to believing god.

And please have in mind that you are trying to convince someone that applies or try really hard to apply logic or common knowledge to everything he does. So don't bring the faith mumbo jumbo..
I not gona have faith or believed that swallowing a stone would cure head ache unless the person proves it.

Thanks.

Waiting...... No trolls please.

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