Isaacmacdon:
lol, you are beginning to talk like one of them. Its only atheist that asks for bible scriptures in other to back up a point. You claim to know the bible well but its obvious you don't.

1 corinthians 5 vs 11; What I meant was that you should not associate with a person who calls himself a believer but is immoral or greedy or worships idols or is a slanderer or a drunkard or a thief. Don't even sit down to eat with such a person.

Sorry bro. I follow set rules. Go read your bible. I expressed my opinion and you FOOLISHLY pounced on it with DEMONIC intent.

Well done o. Well done all of you. Shey we are all going to the same heaven? You will meet him there and tell him all this right? You 'intended' (if you actually did) to correct him, then you ended up insulting him. You try to declare something a sin and then you sin and don't even recognize and apologise for it. Whether or not we agree as Christians, we have no right to declare anybody hell bound. Be careful of rash judgement. Correct one another with love. That is the call of the Christian faith. May God have mercy on us all. As for the subject matter, if you can self-service with Jesus standing by your side and looking at you, then go ahead with it. What you can' do in His presence, avoid it. Hebews 12:4 In your struggle against sin you have not yet resisted to the point of shedding your blood. I will leave you to decide if it is sinful or not. Just know this, if you can't do it in God's presence, then don't do it at all.

masterP042:
When u 'self-service' to get pleasure, do u imagine doing it with the opposite sex? What comes to your mind while doing it? There's no possible way u can do that without lusting after an opposite sex.. It matters cos the Bible says, who ever lusts after a woman in his heart has already committed sin with her.. Period!

I really feel like Giving you a resounding e-slap right now not because you have a contrary view but .must you quote the bible wrongly?

That quote states"who so ever LOOKS at a woman lustfully"

Thinking about sex is never a sin and in fact thinking about having sex is never and was never stated as a sin in the bible.

I'm really fed up quoting comments enmeshed in baseless rantings without vivid biblical points to corroborate their stands.

Toks2008:


If I were you I will keep off this thread rather than come here to ridicule yourself

I'm happy the bible is still with us so if you cant make reasonable contribution with biblical reference just keep mum and sulk in your hypocrisy

I'm eager to learn and I can't wait to change my mindset but I'm not ready for town criers like you..Yes I'm hard on you and no apologies..I just detest hypocrites.

When you are ready to discuss with biblical reference I will gladly indulge you but until then I may have to ignore you.

You are an agent of darkness.... All your contributions are all educational jaggons

Toks2008:

Another ranter in the building.

It takes a ranter to know a ranter

My opinion, Anyone who tasted sex before marriage will have the exceedingly sex urge which may be uncontrollable.
Now according to scripture, God says we should desist from premarital sex... I believe one of the reason he stated that is to prevent masturbation and any lustful thought that could lead to fornication.
Getting a partner is even better than masturbation due to the mental torture after wanking
pls desist from it, there is no way you will self servicing that you wont have a lustful about having sex escapade with opposite partner.
God says, guide your hrt diligently against all form of lustful thought.
Do you know why you are heavily criticized ? is because you are trying to justify masturbation biblically. pls change.... may God help you.

Modify it to soothe yourself....I have seen in it in the bible masturbation is a sin period...I can't help u more than that..did not read bible well..!!! Come here and spill ****


WHAT A SHAME...!!!


The world is coming to an end real fast...!!! OMG

Wher are d Vaseline crew

firstking01:
Lol, be mature for once brother....who's competiting with you, and btw, spirituality has no age brackets...you dnt knw shit abt bible or God, stop decieving yourself nigga…what do you mean by "but when you are so filled with sexual passion yet you are not married you are free to ease off yourself with your imagination if you can"...do this and you have a straight ticket to hell...i 've been following and observing your threads for sometime nw, most of which are contradictory and controversial...my warning again to you, stop misleading people with this kind of mindset...if you wanna follow God, follow Him wholly...no put one leg for church one leg for the world cos that's the type of person i think you are...



Goodnight.

. Isnt arrogance a sin. The both of u have overwhelmingly displayed acts of pride. Ask for forgiveness. Sinners judging sinners for sinning differently is all I see

Masturbation is not a Sin. If our hands were nt meant to satisfy us, nature would have made it shorter to prevent it from reaching the perineal region. I dont take it as a Sin may be itz kos am a FREE THINKER tho. Masturbating excessively to the extent of addiction is nt ok. Konji gene has bn implicated in majority of the members of the #VaselineCrew with recent studies carried out on NL

Toks2008:


Food is good and eating is sinless provided you eat reasonably but when you eat too much you become a glutton and gluttony is a sin.

Taking alcohol is never mentioned as a sin but when you allow drunkenness to set in then you have sinned but because many people usually cross the line, pastors preach against taking alcohol and I totally support that.

Even if masturbation was never mentioned as a sin, we should know that addiction to it just like any other addiction is not right but calling the act a sin is the issue I have.

Many people will still come here to call it a sin BECAUSE THEY THINK IT IS...is that not foolishness?

There are some biblical principles that can be applied to the issue of masturbation. Ephesians 5:3 declares, “Among you there must not be even a hint of sexual immorality, or of any kind of impurity.” It is hard to see how masturbating can pass that particular test. The Bible teaches us, “So whether you eat or drink or whatever you do, do it all for the glory of God” ( 1 Corinthians 10:31). If you cannot give God glory for something, you should not do it. If a person is not fully convinced that an activity is pleasing to God, then it is a sin: “Everything that does not come from faith is sin” ( Romans 14:23). Further, we need to remember that our bodies have been Redeemed and belong to God. Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? )you are not your own; you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your body” ( 1 Corinthians 6:19-20). This great truth should have a real bearing on what we do with our bodies. In light of these principles, the conclusion that masturbation is a sin is biblical. Clearly, masturbation is not glorify to God; it does not avoid the appearance of immorality, nor does it honor God as the owner of our bodies.

It is not True That masturbation no matter the method applied is acceptable in the life of a true child of the living GOD .
The truth rather is that self servicing is one of the desires of the flesh, the human nature, (Galatians 5 verse 16), which is always at war with the spirit . If you study this scripture further, its is made clear that sexual immorality which also covers masturbation is a sin, the opposite of the aforementioned is self-control in same Galatians 5: 22, which can not be achieve by the flesh, but through the help of the holy spirit.
D truth is that our body is the temple of the lord (corinthians 6: 10-19. ). Its rather unfortunate how we want GOD to spell out everything like "my son do not eat sand ". A person filled with the spirit of GOD can never fill comfortable satisfying the desire of flesh, like self servicing. You see, one problem with christianity today is that we dont study the scripture for the knowledge of the will of GOD, hence we are quick to interpret the scripture to satisfy our fleshy inclinations.

I pray that our good lord gives us wisdom and understanding to know his will.



Cc: Toks2008
fromnigeria

fromnigeria:
It is not True That masturbation no matter the method applied is acceptable in the life of a true child of the living GOD .
The truth rather is that self servicing is one of the desires of the flesh, the human nature, (Galatians 5 verse 16), which is always at war with the spirit . If you study this scripture further, its is made clear that sexual immorality which also covers masturbation is a sin, the opposite of the aforementioned is self-control in same Galatians 5: 22, which can not be achieve by the flesh, but through the help of the holy spirit.
D truth is that our body is the temple of the lord (corinthians 6: 10-19. ). Its rather unfortunate how we want GOD to spell out everything like "my son do not eat sand ". A person filled with the spirit of GOD can never fill comfortable satisfying the desire of flesh, like self servicing. You see, one problem with christianity today is that we dont study the scripture for the knowledge of the will of GOD, hence we are quick to interpret the scripture to satisfy our fleshy inclinations.

I pray that our good lord gives us wisdom and understanding to know his will.



Toks2000
fromnigeria

. Well said, because you masturbate, does not mean u should convince others by twisting the bible to your own advantage... Sin is often the result of lust or wrong selfish desire. This fact forms the primary basis of answering this question. Jesus tells us in Matthew 5:28 that “whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has
already committed adultery with her in his heart.” If sexual lusting is the reason or trigger for masturbation then it is certainly a sin whether from erotic imagery, viewing pornography, or lusting after a person.... As the apostle James wrote: “But each one is tempted when he is carried away and enticed by his own lust. Then when lust has conceived, it gives birth to sin” (James
1:14-15) masturbation is a sin... And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall set ye free.... However sex is for marriage, and works to bind a husband and wife together in a profound way. Sex in marriage is good, but any other sexual activity is a distortion of that goodness. That’s why such activities as adultery, casual sex and so on are condemned.
When masturbation leads to unhelpful sexual
thinking and lust you are sinning and need to do
something about it. Make the conscious,
aggressive decision to look somewhere else, or
go somewhere else, or turn the computer off or
whatever it takes! Jesus promises that when we
are being tempted, he’ll give us a way out. (1 Cor
10:13)..... HAPPY SUNDAY........

petux:
prefer masturbation over sex

the thing dey sweet like say make him no end again

Isaacmacdon:
see guy free that guy joor. His just doing the work of his father the devil.

That isn't the best way to correct bro.we can educate but not condem

Trudiee:
Toks2008, i read everything n I'd like to comment. You see, the church preaches that it is a sin. I'm a catholic and honestly, I've actually thought about this before, why masturbation is considered a sin, cause a human being has urges, and fornication is not an option.

I hope you read everything tho

well it got me thinkin. the reason why its considered a sin is because, when you masturbate, you ease off pent up sexual urges, which should have been done with someone, and not something you should do alone.

now, a person can become comfortable doing this, easing off any day any time, but God's intention is for man to procreate. when everyone is comfortable easing off on their own, that intention is defeated.. and that is why the church condemns it.

i read ur write up tho. You made a lot of points. I mean, why create the urge in us when we should not satisfy it in any way.. till at least ure ready for marriage.

but we can't question God.

Exactly, we shouldn't question God.

Ever wondered why God left the fruit and knowledge of Good and Evil in the Garden, Since he knows Adam and Eve would eat it, isn't it safest to just remove the Tree, but No. the tree was left there.

Ever wondered why Men like sex so much, and then they patronize prostitutes. If the sex urge was removed from Men, All that issues will be over in a second. No more sexual harassment by your Boss, lecturers, pastors etc, No more rape, No more prostitution, No more masturbation....because then sex would now be needed for reproduction Only.

2 Corinthians 10:5 says Casting down[b] imaginations[/b], and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every[b] thought[/b] to the obedience of Christ;

As humans, some thoughts come naturally to us, what we do with the thoughts eventually define us. Acting on the sexual thoughts with self in masturbation is absolutely wrong. When the thoughts come, take a walk, have a cold shower, and most effectively counter it with the Word of God. No true believer indulges in the act of masturbation and doesn't feel guilty or even condemned. Grace is available to stop, only make that commitment and believe. God bless us all!

Antichrist ministry..

brethren,nairalanders beware

Bluetooth2:


The kind of stuff guys come up with just to justify their inability to sustain a good relationship with the opposite s'e'x is not only childish but utterly hysteria.


Any act you engage in and you don't want anyone to see you while doing it, then it becomes a sin. That's common sense!

Even when u n ur partner her having sex?

kingui:

good morning sir, pls with all due respect I don't smoke I don't drink beer but smoking and drinking is not a sin read your bible very well compare different versions and you will see the fact laying before you clear and bright. note the bible says don't add, don't subtract. thank you
have a wonderful day

Help yourself my brother, quit smoking and drinking.

hw can someone stop masturbation....?

Trudiee:
Toks2008, i read everything n I'd like to comment. You see, the church preaches that it is a sin. I'm a catholic and honestly, I've actually thought about this before, why masturbation is considered a sin, cause a human being has urges, and fornication is not an option.

I hope you read everything tho

well it got me thinkin. the reason why its considered a sin is because, when you masturbate, you ease off pent up sexual urges, which should have been done with someone, and not something you should do alone.

now, a person can become comfortable doing this, easing off any day any time, but God's intention is for man to procreate. when everyone is comfortable easing off on their own, that intention is defeated.. and that is why the church condemns it.

i read ur write up tho. You made a lot of points. I mean, why create the urge in us when we should not satisfy it in any way.. till at least ure ready for marriage.

but we can't question God.

Thia is a matured comment, honest and straight, not judgmental or condemning. Thump up sir.I don't masturbate, stopped 7 yrs back.you are the best sir.

Trudiee:
Toks2008, i read everything n I'd like to comment. You see, the church preaches that it is a sin. I'm a catholic and honestly, I've actually thought about this before, why masturbation is considered a sin, cause a human being has urges, and fornication is not an option.

I hope you read everything tho

well it got me thinkin. the reason why its considered a sin is because, when you masturbate, you ease off pent up sexual urges, which should have been done with someone, and not something you should do alone.

now, a person can become comfortable doing this, easing off any day any time, but God's intention is for man to procreate. when everyone is comfortable easing off on their own, that intention is defeated.. and that is why the church condemns it.

i read ur write up tho. You made a lot of points. I mean, why create the urge in us when we should not satisfy it in any way.. till at least ure ready for marriage.

but we can't question God.

Best response so far as for me... Thanks

firstking01:
Help yourself my brother, quit smoking and drinking.

you can't advice me to quit what I have never done my beloved brother. thank you

shotin:
. Well said, because you masturbate, does not mean u should convince others by twisting the bible to your own advantage... Sin is often the result of lust or wrong selfish desire. This fact forms the primary basis of answering this question. Jesus tells us in Matthew 5:28 that “whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has
already committed adultery with her in his heart.” If sexual lusting is the reason or trigger for masturbation then it is certainly a sin whether from erotic imagery, viewing pornography, or lusting after a person.... As the apostle James wrote: “But each one is tempted when he is carried away and enticed by his own lust. Then when lust has conceived, it gives birth to sin” (James
1:14-15) masturbation is a sin... And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall set ye free.... However sex is for marriage, and works to bind a husband and wife together in a profound way. Sex in marriage is good, but any other sexual activity is a distortion of that goodness. That’s why such activities as adultery, casual sex and so on are condemned.
When masturbation leads to unhelpful sexual
thinking and lust you are sinning and need to do
something about it. Make the conscious,
aggressive decision to look somewhere else, or
go somewhere else, or turn the computer off or
whatever it takes! Jesus promises that when we
are being tempted, he’ll give us a way out. (1 Cor
10:13)..... HAPPY SUNDAY........

My guy, you just quoted 'fromnigeria' by antagonising him, whereas, both of you are saying the same thing which I quite agree with.[b][/b]

TradeAssistPOS:
I hear when doctors require semen for artificial insemination they ask the man to masturbate.

If you look at sperm as a human fluid which it is anyway. It may just be as simple as releasing fluids that trigger hormonal reactions.

For example when a child doesn't suck breast as much as the breast priduces, mother can extract the milk out of her body without the child necessarily sucking it out.

The fact that a knife can be used to kill doesn't make it bad.

I understand when God specifically instructs a person to desist from the act that one should adhere out of obedience cos it's just like a child being stopped from playing video games because of tendencies.

I stop my first son from playing video games outright because he doesn't even know when to stop but my daughter and second son treat video games like another toys so I hardly stop them.

Now there is a main issue here.

That u dont masturbate doesn't make you more righteous before God because the concept of righteousness is not what you do or don't do.It is a gift from God.

So I will conclude with this if you are truly a child of God.He doesn't leave us without a guide. The Holy Spirit instructs us on matters like this through our conscience so follow his guidance.

But if you're not Born Again you won't go to hell not because you masturbate. But you will go to hell because you reject God gift of righteousness through his son.Jesus Christ.

And if you as a born again he has instructed you not too strive against maturbation with every blood in your body for there is a reward.

The destruction comes to that one who has confessed Jesus as Lord with or without maturbation.

If you want to give your heart to Christ.

Just say these words after me.

Lord Jesus I believe you came to the world to die for my sins, and on the third day to were raised up for my justification.

I confess you as the Lord of my life from this day on.

Thank God I am a child of God now. I have the life of God in my Spirit now.

Amen

You have a miracle of salvation to anyone who can mean those words.

God bless you. I will like to read your Testimonies.

The mmoment u take him as ur God and I decide to tell u to read dis :

Toks2008:


Another ranter in the building.

As much as I agree with you, I just wish you were more mature and tolerant with your response. You claim to have started this topic to change a wrong mentality leading people away from salvation but the way you respond just puts people off and you set them up to fight with you instead.
I'm beginning to think you're not led by the Spirit of God to talk about this, but led by your ego and intellect.
There have been several comments on your response but you keep ignoring and continue with such. It is a pity, cos you are just undoing what you started and I am beginning to have second thoughts about your motivation and the veracity of your argument.
If you were out evangelizing, is this how you'll respond to the souls you're trying to win?
This cantankerous and contentious attitude is definitely not a fruit of the Spirit. I won't be surprised if you insult or ignore me.

Toks2008 you did not did much study on Gods word you came out with this trash who told masturbation is not a sin. have you not seen the word lewdness in the bible before. that word means the state of being lewd. Now lewd means sexual promiscuous rude .now see the meaning of the 3 words

1. sexual : it means tending to arouse sexual excitement.
2. promiscuous: it means without care.
3. rude: means in a bad manner. Therefore lewd means Tending to arouse sexual excitement without care in a bad manner. Then lewdness means doing something lewd. Now if you don't know, masturbation both masturbation b/w husband and wife is lewdness because is an abnormal way of arousing sexual excitement and that makes it arousing sexual excitement without care in a bad manner which is lewdness. And the bible mentioned lewdness as a sin . Therefore masturbation is a sin. And that is why anybody that engage in it will be condemned by his or her conscience. repent if you're into or if you die in it , it will be hell fire for you.

kingui:

you can't advice me to quit what I have never done my beloved brother. thank you

ThankGod for your life.

firstking01:
Stop luring people into hell with this your heresy teachings, masturbation is a sin...i dnt knw if you read where i posted that for the fact that a thing is not in the bible doesn't mean it's not a sin...listen to me mr toks2008, some years bk God warned me seriously about masturbation and it's dangers, it has negative repercussions...if you like believe it or not...just like smoking and drinking is a sin but it's not specifically stated in the bible but symbolically and spiritually, smoking and drinking represents gluttony and dirtiness.

I don't drink...but you are the biggest liar EVER!!!!

the wine in the wedding Jesus performed his first miracle was it non alcoholic wine?
Chai see where people dry mislead people!!!!

You are the biggest hypocrite I have ever seen!!!

The wine David drank and danced his heart out to God was it non alcoholic?

The WINE Jesus served up during the last supper was it non-alcoholic?

Chai Nigerians!!! Europeans introduced Christianity to us and are still practicing it the way it should be (for them who do) in Nigeria we have turned it into all manner of misleading things!!!! Turning the bible on its head!!

You are a liar!!!!


The only time alcohol is a sin is when uts excess and makes a man fool around....
Go and read ya gadamn bible....

God just dey look Una dey chose parts of bible wey Favour Una! Dey throway the rest!...

I repeat you are a liar! And heaven sees I don't even drink! Your lies stink!!!!

Egemeole:
Toks2008 you did not did much study on Gods word you came out with this trash who told masturbation is not a sin. have you not seen the word lewdness in the bible before. that word means the state of being lewd. Now lewd means sexual promiscuous rude .now see the meaning of the 3 words

1. sexual : it means tending to arouse sexual excitement.
2. promiscuous: it means without care.
3. rude: means in a bad manner. Therefore lewd means Tending to arouse sexual excitement without care in a bad manner. Then lewdness means doing something lewd. Now if you don't know, masturbation both masturbation b/w husband and wife is lewdness because is an abnormal way of arousing sexual excitement and that makes it arousing sexual excitement without care in a bad manner which is lewdness. And the bible mentioned lewdness as a sin . Therefore masturbation is a sin. And that is why anybody that engage in it will be condemned by his or her conscience. repent if you're into or if you die in it , it will be hell fire for you.

One question....
If you masturbate and think about you wife....is it a sin?

whyx06:


The mmoment u take him as ur God and I decide to tell u to read dis :

Nobody worships Jesus...he is the WAY.....the TRUTH AND LIFE...NOBODY GETS TO THE FATHER EXCEPT THROUGH HIM!!!!
We pray thru Jesus Christ to God!

There is nowhere Jesus said Christian should worship him....he only said he is the son of God but father and son are one! All he asked is that we should BELIEVE in him (Jesus).

He too prayed to the father....