realmindz:


It was a practice, it makes Yaweh no different from other gods...civilisation has come to place to counter this practice and has nothing to do with christianity, humans have only become civilised.

so tell me, why sud I accept Yaweh of the jews as the true God?

if there is God, he can't be Yaweh...and he cannot be a tribal, genocidal, infanticidal, capriciously malevolent bully god of the jews...

adjoviomole:



What civilization? Ever since Jesus shed his blood for us, nobody needs to sacrifice animals or whatsoever, Jesus have paid the sacrifice and that was like 2000 yrs ago before the so called civilization.

realmindz:


as a 21st century man, that have access to books, Google etc in this information age..you should not act like cave men. Pls verify ur delusions before exposing ur ignorance on public forum...

realmindz:


more evidences that the Jews use to sacrifice humans and animals to Yaweh like other tribes did to their local gods

Deut 13 vs 15

you must certainly put to the sword all who live in that town. You must destroy it completely, both its people and its livestock. You are to gather all the plunder of the town into the middle of the public square and completely burn the town and all its plunder as a whole burnt offering to the LORD your God.

adjoviomole:


Lmao do u want to compare our time with that of 2000yrs ago.

No need to argue further. Nobody sacrifices humans or animal anymore. So end of discussion. Thanks

realmindz:


It was a practice, it makes Yaweh no different from other gods...civilisation has come to place to counter this practice and has nothing to do with christianity, humans have only become civilised.

so tell me, why sud I accept Yaweh of the jews as the true God?

if there is God, he can't be Yaweh...and he cannot be a tribal, genocidal, infanticidal, capriciously malevolent bully god of the jews...

Lsofdk:

you guys keep quoting same verse on each duel.

Let's shift the attention

What do you believe?

realmindz:

let's not shit attention

Lsofdk:

Go read Deuteronomy chp 5 down to 13 where you quoted and if you lack comprehension don't come back quoting me jabbering

WHAT DO YOU BELIEVE?

realmindz:


You buzzing like a pest, I won't have the time to delight ur in arguing...wat else do u want oh ye religious dimwit, it has been well addressed on this thread how your Yaweh is evil and takes human and animal sacrifice but u are just keen on satisfying your delusions that he is not evil as he is...

just beat it, it's not your fault Yaweh is a killer, just blame your indoctrination that have blinded you to love whom you have been taught to love

jared007:
Hi seggzz this will be my last reply to u on this topic becos u bore me with ur scriptural ignorance. In 2Samuel 21:1-14 there were two Mephibosheths identified. First is Mephibosheth the lame son of Jonathan(2sam4:4; 9:6-13; 19:24-30; 21:7). Secondly is Mephibosheth son of Saul(2sam 21: 8. The second Mephibosheth was the one killed becos he was part of Sauls bloody house dat killed the Gibeonites thereby breaking the agreement dat Israrel had with the Amorites(Gibeonites) in Joshua 9:3, 16-17. As for Numbers 31 i ve explained dat b4 in my first comment. Read it again.

Lsofdk:

you didn't get my question, i have read everything on this thread… i said show me where God demanded he sacrificed his daughter

seggzz:

Just as i said you need to read the post again. In the post i mention where they lament for her and other things that shows that she was actually killed. REad!

Lsofdk:

there's a lesson to be learnt.
In the process of asking too many questions, you miss the lessons

seggzz:

You refused to acknowledge that your god do commit evils. One of them is killing of humans and animals for 'burnt offering'. So many of you in the past have accepted that this actually happened in the old days of the bible. But why are Christians here rejecting the facts that is glaring to the eyes. Your god accept human sacrifices, lay rules for getting slaves,send lying spirits to his prophets and other evils.Yet you claimed he is the all merciful, the all loving, all righteous god and so-and-so god...

Lsofdk:

Says the mortal rebellious waste of creation.
you shy away from stating your beliefs, how worthless it's.
It's no fault of yours you can't comprehend what's written in the bible, i blame it on the long chain endogamy between dimwits.
try no further, your ½grained brain ain't designed to bear such weight.
begone and keep the stench of your leprous brain of my mention.

Lsofdk:

My God doesn't, has never and will never.


what do you believe?

seggzz:

Is your god different from the god of old testament?

Lsofdk:

you waste time explaining to narrow minded individuals.
they pick verses to counter without reading to understand from the origin.
He quoted the verse Deuteronomy 13:15 without laying emphasis to the verse that precedes it, the one which lead to that (Deuteronomy 5).
The truth is nothing you say makes any difference to them.

Lsofdk:

when you learn to answer questions, i would grant you a reply

seggzz:

What is this your question that is giving you headache? Your god accept human killing is a fact! If he is not part why allow the virgin lady die because a man promised to kill anyone that first comes his way to your god?

ColinAdua:
Jehovah God created human beings and He is wholeheartedly permitted to do to us as He wishes!

That's what those places are teaching.

Though in the case of the Saul's sons it was more of fairness and justice than human sacrifice.

Just like Him telling the children of Israel to wipe out or destroy a nation for their wickedness.

Moreover, all these has been set aside by the sure perfect covenant and ministry of Jesus Christ called Christianity and is no longer obtainable.

Accept Jesus Christ as your personal Lord and Saviour today

seggzz:

If promises of human blood can be accepted by your god then your god is not different from 'oro'-one of traditional deity. What lessons can you learn from a god that accept human sacrifices? Is there no other lesson to teach Jephthah without taking the only child? Is that not wickedness?

seggzz:

If promises of human blood can be accepted by your god then your god is not different from 'oro'-one of traditional deity. What lessons can you learn from a god that accept human sacrifices? Is there no other lesson to teach Jephthah without taking the only child? Is that not wickedness?

seggzz:

If god answer prayer why do you diseases and death prevail over his own that serve him diligently. The Hospitals and other institutions have already testify god doesn't answers prayers. Why do we need hospitals if god answers prayer?

nwasinachi:
Oya, hold it right there. Who told u that God dont answer prayers? I say who? I use to be as stubborn or even more stubborn than u, it was d same God through Jesus that humbled me. God forbid that i lie, but when i remembered what dis God did for me, o boy, i dey shiver!

Princewell2012:


My friend you haven't still learnt any lesson here, it seems you just read for reading sake.

Jephtan or what did you called him is a man of his word. It is not God that asked him to sacrificed his daughter. He made a vow and it appear that his daughter sawfaced and he had to carry it out.

That is how to know a king in those days, what ever they says they will surely do it, and have been known for that. They are a man of their words.

Remember herod, he also told his daughter in the presence of the audience, he vowed a vow that what ever she needs even half of his kingdom he will give it to her, but through the advice of her mother the head of John the Baptist was demanded.
See, king herod was not happy about about it, but for the sake of his listeners and the vow he make, he has to Carried that asignment.
But God stops it when Abraham wanted to do the same thing.
And is nolonger practicable now.


Beside you have no right to question God, he owns you and can use you to do anything he wishes to do. Even this night he may decide to kill you and nobody can deliver you from his hands.

And frankly speaking no child of God can rebel against him, as you re doing now, only the disobedient ones does that, and they can never get it funny.

I wish you should repent from doing this, otherwise the end is very disastrous.

Fear God. You have been warned.

Lsofdk:

you're narrow minded and hell bent on your opinion why should i engage you in a dialogue

seggzz:

You mean your god that use human for sacrifices answers prayers? I laugh! What type of things does this your god answers as prayer? Did he grow a new skeleton on human that you have seen without any orthodox or herbal treatments? I have done miracles using psychological means and so most(if not all) miracles are just psychological and others have medical explanation. Let us assumed your prayers was answered(of which i know is false), how do you know it was Jesus and not Devil that answered your prayers?

seggzz:

You mean your god that use human for sacrifices answers prayers? I laugh! What type of things does this your god answers as prayer? Did he grow a new skeleton on human that you have seen without any orthodox or herbal treatments? I have done miracles using psychological means and so most(if not all) miracles are just psychological and others have medical explanation. Let us assumed your prayers was answered(of which i know is false), how do you know it was Jesus and not Devil that answered your prayers?

nwasinachi:
You did miracle using psychological means, and u call yourself a miracle worker? pls who is talking of medicine and psychology here? eh who? That u are old and big does not mean you are wise and learned. pls my prayers were answered pure and true, some while still praying self. The funny thing is that i do not require any man of God to pray for me before they got answered. secondly,if i ask Mr A to give me something secretly, Why should mr z take d glory for that?