JohnBullMySon:
Obama didn't support same sex marriage in 2010? what're you saying bruh?

Bigzigg:


That aside, what did falcons really play during her time? For anyone who cares, times have changed, and I assure you, if most of these names you throw around here are given this team to manage, you all will come back here crying more seriously.

lovewins:


This is a times article detailing Obama's evolution on same sex marriage. It wasn't a popular position bro, that doesn't mean people averse to it being legalized were also against homosexuals having basic civil liberties.

https://time.com/3816952/obama-gay-lesbian-transgender-lgbt-rights/

JohnBullMySon:
I wasn't part of those throwing names of coaches. I said Randy should be given some time yet.

The reason we did neither get to the final or reach third place is first because of Ajibade, Ayinde, Monday Gift and to an extent Onumonu. That's not to say I blame them but if actually we are to blame, then It should start from these people before we get to the coach. That's my own take.

Bigzigg:


Okay, I was actually referring to the people making those suggestions.

Of a truth, if Ayinde and Ajibade had not been red carded at all, Nigeria would have won the tournament, not even South Africa would have stopped them. Immediately both players got eliminated, I lost hope in the team... I saw no forward who could drive the team, cos Ordega has become a flop, Monday is inconsistent,... Who else was there?.. Oh, Kanu?...

I did not bother watching the last match cos I could anticipate it. The good thing - apart from the South Africa match, I think Nigeria played better than their opponents, showing what quality the players possessed, Ucheibe got discovered.

Lest I forget, Chiamaka messed up just when one wouldn't expect it, poor Rita was treated with a high value by the coach. Okobi, though has improved, she has a lot more to do to convince me, and... for those atrocious set pieces... she should never have come close to them. Finally... the coach, Iet me just keep my mouth shut for now.

AkinDS:
On point.
Not sure any team in this tournament (including SA) would have been able to replicate the performance against Morocco, especially playing 2 women down for 60 mins! They really did not deserve to lose that game.
Also, considering that they undeservedly lost to Morocco on penalties, as well as their need to strike to be paid (missing several training sessions), it would have been foolhardy of anyone to expect that the zeal and passion will be there for the Zambia game.

As far as I was concerned, the second best team won the tournament and I am happy for them, as they have been knocking on the door for over a decade. It would have been a really stupid joke if those Arabs had won it, considering they pretty much cheated their way into the finals. The best team in this tourney was Nigeria. We can debate this till the cows come home but that is my strong belief.

Moving forward, I like the fact that there are still up and coming players in the pipeline: U20 players (Demehin, Ajibola, Onyenezide, Flourish, Imuran, Taiwo and Oshobukola) and senior players that missed this WAFCON (Patricia George, Rinsola Babajide, Onyinye Zogg, Roosa Ariyo and others) who would shore up the team in the deficient areas.

My one concern is the goal keeping dept. As stated earlier, was quite disappointed with Chiamaka's performance and school girl errors. This is the only weakpoint I noticed on this team. We need to start looking for credible keepers and fast. And please, not that tall keeper from Bayelsa United (can't remember her name) - she is even worse!

JohnBullMySon:
... Roosa Ariyo is not needed that much. Rinsola should be forgotten for now at leaat. I don't see any reason why she should be pursued when we are seeing loyal players in Nigeria and beyond. She's still undecided.

mostob:
But the way she do carry shoulder ehn, you would think she is some sort of Salah + ziyech + mahrez rolled into one.

I know...you haven't answer my question. Do team return the trophy ahead of a new tournament or a new trophy will be used for the new tournament?

mostob:
I'm not hrash bro. Ordega played like an amateur. A simple 'give and go', she would want to do it alone and eventually lost the ball.

mostob:
chai...I must admit there are two sides to every coins. Now that we're clamoring for another coach, preferably a Nigerian, will something like these not rear their head eventually? This country ehn..

Bigzigg:


Mention them!

Bigzigg:


You are right, If I am to list the players to make way, they'll be Chikwelu(useless), Ordega(Spent, tired), Ikechukwu(not ready) ....Ebi, as good and loyal as she's been, needs to make way for younger players to come through. Plumpter is a capable replacement. Also, Nigerians who were making noise about Gift Monday... Hope they've learned that she can't be a starter.

daveP:
Imagine a coach that tackles that make up thing.

She was below average in this tournament.

Still shocked that Onumonu has the highest shots at goal and Ajibade and Kanu followed with quite a distant number. Ordega had 3 i think.

lovewins:


Exactly. Surprised how this is an issue. The current super falcons could also be misconstrued as being too religious, didn't we see Oluehi on screen praying voraciously in the game against Zambia? Sometimes it's difficult to separate religion from culture in this part of the world as we have become culturally religious. I'll only have an issue if it's imposed on others.

As per homophobia, most persons in Nigeria and by extension Africa do not support same-sex marriage, and that in itself is termed homophobia in some quarters. For that to have been an issue would be far fetched.

Cc: mostob

mostob:
I'll like to disagree with you on Ebi. Ebi needs to make way for younger players...I agree but who are these younger players? Can you list 2.

mostob:
Disclaimer: this is not an allegation.

Based on outspokenness, Ebi,Oshoala,Ordega,Rita and Ashleigh.

lovewins:


Methinks Ebi, Rita and Oshoala aren't in this list. Ebi and Rita have stayed this long in the team because they have among other things learnt not to rock the boat. I remember the last time the falcons where delayed for hours at the airport, Ebi did a video on her Instagram story amongst many other players. But when the story gained traction it was alleged that she was one of the persons that decided to play down on it by saying it was being taken out of proportion. Oshoala just a few days ago was praising the NFF president a day after her colleagues had to sit out training cause of non-payment of bonuses. Don't forget she was a direct beneficiary of Oparanozie being stripped of the captaincy. I think she is very diplomatic which isn't a bad thing really, but I don't see are as someone who will go head to head with authority.

Deltamani:


Let Ohale and Plumptre be the Center Backs, Akudo Ogbonna and Onyinyechi Zogg can Deputise for them, but if they still need Ebi she would have to be on the Bench to offer her experience…

The three Full Backs I will go with are
Alozie, Nicole Payne and Patricia George…

At least Patty plays both wings and uses both feet’s effectively..

Tony Payne can come in if the need be…

mostob:
Wait, Onumomu has the highest shot? I was thinking Ucheibe.

daveP:
ify has 15 in total. Ucheibe no reach 6.

AkinDS:
On point.

Not sure any team in this tournament (including SA) would have been able to replicate the performance against Morocco, especially playing 2 women down for 60 mins! They really did not deserve to lose that game. Also, considering that they undeservedly lost to Morocco on penalties, as well as their need to strike to be paid (missing several training sessions), it would have been foolhardy of anyone to expect that the zeal and passion will be there for the Zambia game.

As far as I was concerned, the second best team won the tournament and I am happy for them, as they have been knocking on the door for over a decade. It would have been a really stupid joke if those Arabs had won it, considering they pretty much cheated their way into the finals. The best team in this tourney was Nigeria. We can debate this till the cows come home but that is my strong belief.

Moving forward, I like the fact that there are still up and coming players in the pipeline: U20 players (Demehin, Ajibola, Onyenezide, Flourish, Imuran, Taiwo and Oshobukola) and senior players that missed this WAFCON (Patricia George, Rinsola Babajide, Onyinye Zogg, Roosa Ariyo and others) who would shore up the team in the deficient areas. With these players coming on board, we should be able to gracefully retire the likes of Chikwelu, perhaps Ebi, and most definitely Okobi, who was extremely poor overall in my book.

My one concern is the goal keeping dept. As stated earlier, was quite disappointed with Chiamaka's performance and her school girl errors. This is the only weakpoint I noticed on this team. We need to start looking for credible keepers and fast. And please, not that tall keeper from Bayelsa United (can't remember her name) - she is even worse!

mostob:
Disclaimer: this is not an allegation.

Based on outspokenness, Ebi,Oshoala,Ordega,Rita and Ashleigh.

Deltamani:


Let Ohale and Plumptre be the Center Backs, Akudo Ogbonna and Onyinyechi Zogg can Deputise for them, but if they still need Ebi she would have to be on the Bench to offer her experience…

The three Full Backs I will go with are
Alozie, Nicole Payne and Patricia George…

At least Patty plays both wings and uses both feet’s effectively..

Tony Payne can come in if the need be…

lovewins:
Just hearing renowned sports journalist Godwin this morning talk about how invested the South Africans and the Moroccans are in women football made me shudder in disgust how the Nigerian administrators aren't just incompetent but wicked.

According to him, every Moroccan and South African player gets a monthly salary as long as you are a member of the National team (differs from match bonuses). How exactly will the players not be motivated? To think the FA who had to wait for the ministry to get funds for the players could self finance the logistic requirements for several FA presidents (who aren't relevant in the scheme of things) to Morocco, accommodate them, feed them and give each extacode (which is 3-4 times what a player gets) just shows where their priority is.

Hoping for better days for Nigeria football

do4luv14:




you don't want to cut your coat according to your size right

you did rather keep throwing stones, and yet you live in a glass house,

annnndddddd commitment ko compliments ni!!!!!

lovewins:


Trying to make sense of your response and I sincerely cannot.

How exactly does "cutting your coat according to your size" address my submission? If at all we were willing to cut according to size as you suggested, we would still be able to, we just need to re-prioritize our spending to reflect our goals. Didn't you read that just the funds allocated to transporting FA chairmen to Morocco (Amaju actually invited all 36 FA chairmen) will take care of the players bonuses. I haven't even included their accomodation, feeding and estacode.

And for the commitment comment, can't even make sense of it as I didn't even mention the word. Let's learn to demand more from our leaders, everything I have penned down isn't rocket science, ensuring swift payment of bonuses isn't even something worth
commending, it's bare minimum expected of people with dignity.

mostob:
15 shots and just 1 goal, that's poor

lovewins:
Just hearing renowned sports journalist Godwin this morning talk about how invested the South Africans and the Moroccans are in women football made me shudder in disgust how the Nigerian administrators aren't just incompetent but wicked.

According to him, every Moroccan and South African player gets a monthly salary as long as you are a member of the National team (differs from match bonuses). How exactly will the players not be motivated? To think the FA who had to wait for the ministry to get funds for the players could self finance the logistic requirements for several FA presidents (who aren't relevant in the scheme of things) to Morocco, accommodate them, feed them and give each extacode (which is 3-4 times what a player gets) just shows where their priority is.

Hoping for better days for Nigeria football

JohnBullMySon:
There were no foreign born players in 2011.

She was busy openly bragging about how she will remove gay players from the squad and replace them with Jesus players

You see, one of my fears with local coaches is that their ideology can posses them to the extent they start making sentimental decisions. It is also very possible with foreign coaches but I know how sentiments can rule us at times.

sanpipita:


It was during her time Cynthia Uwak stopped getting called up for the Falcons (there was rumors of some lesbianism issue)

Uche Eucharia did well with Falcons even won a world cup game but it will be nice if she can be inclusive, I still haven't forgiven how Uwak was pushed out of that team, she was going to be our next Nkwocha.