mikolo80:
I could ask you the same. It's funny how you think you're so right, yet so wrong

adahib:
Nice submission. If the churches can actually agree to pull their resources to solve one or two major problems in this country,it would go a long way in pulling this country out of it's current sad situation.

The church should be more than intercessory prayers for the country. The church should be seen to contribute physically to the growth of the country.

Walphem:
Today's Nigeria economy is really becoming uninteresting and a bit sickening, this has made me ponder so much and left me totally confused. I have asked myself what are the roles of today's believers? Joseph was a man that God used to plan for the raining days of a country and he saved an entire country and his family from Famine. Jesus Christ fed 5000 women, and performed lot of miracles. With these and many more I am totally convinced that the church is fully Empowered to solve the present predicament Nigeria is in.

Please don't get me wrong, I appreciate the efforts of various churches in organizing leadership and empowerment seminars eg Daystar Leadership conference, Convent Centre's -The Platform, RCCG Conventions, Winners' Shiloh, TREM's Kingdom Life Conference etc. However, what the country need from the church at this point is way beyond that.
All through the remaining period of the year, October, November, Decemeber churches will be filled up with Church goers praying to close the year 2016 strongly and start the year 2017 in a much better way! And believe me the church gives so much hope to those with faith and believes! After this Hope, Faith and Believe what more? Empowerment seminars and Leadership trainings? Is that enough? No that isn't enough! We need churches that can use its might to solve particular problem(s) of the country.

I remember few years ago Daystar came up with a project to ensure Nigerians enjoy constant power supply, but we never heard about the campaign anymore. We have also heard of Pastors vying for political positions to assist in solving the national problems, what a fantastic step,however the Bible clearly identify to us not to " yoke with unbelievers".

Then how do I want the church to be a game changer? It is simple, why can't we have one or 2 churches going into mainstream agriculture as part of their missionary work, most of them raise funds for missionary works outside the country with minimal or no ROI(mind you I know it is not meant for profit) , but it is long overdue for the big churches to start venturing in solving real life problems and not "educational" problems alone.

It is worthy to note that great professionals are "church goers" and they can give their services to churches on Pro bono, with this churches can have an industry of their choice for the purpose of solving problems.

The time has come to not only buy Private jets (in dollars and putting pressure on the Forex) importing church equipment in Billions of Naira etc

We can truly show the world "how missionary work can be done" not just by opening schools alone and the graduate of the schools not even having any paid employment.

I have a strong feeling that the church has the right solution to Nigeria's problems.

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Caveat: I am just a concerned Nigerian and a Christian, thread isn't for insults but to discuss how we can get Nigeria out of this mess

Bollinger:


Really? So thinking that corruption is not Nigeria's biggest problem is right about? OK. Smh.

mikolo80:
if you like shake your head till your neck stiff it will not change human psychology. Easier to apply carrot than stick. Honey will catch more flies than vinegar. If everyone, EVERYONE were ''corrupt '' ojoro will cancel. If everyone went to political meetings and DEMANDED their own share of the cake, there would
1. Very little left to steal and Unattractive to looters
2.force leaders or politicians to find a way to multiply the largesse in order to satisfy hungry mouths.
Easier to bribe 15 million ignorant ppl than 1 million enlightened ones.
But when people like you throw your hands up in resignation waiting for the impossible to happen, no hope

Bollinger:


Your problem is the same problem millions of Nigerian have; Lack of exposure. You don't know and refuse to know, and are therefore doomed to fail by repeating the same avoidable mistakes that has made your country a cesspit. It is like i am trying to educate a 10 year old. You are so used to the rot in Nigeria that you actually now feel comfortable in your psychosis. I keep asking that do you read the things your write before posting them? How is it possible that a "human being" (in quote, because it is very debatable) would have this kind of thought process? What the hell does, "If everyone went to political meetings and DEMANDED their own share of the cake" mean for God's sake? How you people think boggles the mind. Smh.

mikolo80:
if you want to debate you will try and be civil in your next communication, if you insult me one more time, I will forget about superior argument and show you I can give as good as I get and since I have unlimited data I can assure you you will not win.
You that you are not used to the rot, what have you achieved?
I ask you, do you read the posts and comprehend bfor you reply or you've made up your mind to continue what is clearly not working and hasn't worked in 60 years?
Have you researched how countries like ours have been fixed or you're just parroting what you've been fed for years by failures themselves (abi has any of them solved any problem with all their theories) ?
What do you mean by ''you people ''
There are no people like me o.
Everybody else thinks like you, conventionally.
Conventional has, is, will never work.
We need som'n that does.
If everyone goes for. Their share of national allocation whether it be in cash or in infrastructure or services, there will be very little chance to steal. But if you all sit at home, then those who need the money more than you will go and claim it and all you can do is grumble.
Or do you think anything is gotten in the West without a fight or a struggle, you think it happens automatically cos you desire it.
No my friend, you have to work on it. Every single day, non stop

Bollinger:


Superior argument does not work with you. I have tried to school you on how to think but to no avail. When dealing with cave men, believe it or not (I take this as a compliment) [/b]a cave man approach must be undertaken. [b] even cave men don't like to be insulted [/b]What do i have to say to someone who uses "[b]share of allocation" and "national cake" in their argument? what else is it if not our share of roads, hospitals, security, schools, etc abi only for some people to be buying house in Dubai? [/b]In 2016 fa. [b] guy allocation is allocation the world over no matter the century
[/b]He is trying to equate the struggles in normal countries to the crap Nigeria is doing. [b] what's the difference? Are you not watching gay people as well as gun for and against ppl fighting daily for their beliefs [/b]Lol. When they were struggling, it wasn't to "share the national cake" or "allocations". The struggle was about freedom and basic human rights.[b] freedom from what. Which mumu right? Rights they refuse to defend. That i have to explain this again buttresses my point. I am just wasting my time. God help una. Smh.

mikolo80:
you don't have to explain. I know what you are saying. I just thought you were willing to expand your mind, but I guess you're happy with lamenting. So sad. And you're supposed to be the leaders of today.

Bollinger:


God forbid. Tomorrow ke. I am a leader now. I train and groom leaders. That is my job, believe it or not. That's how i know you guys are phucked. You have no clue what leadership entails, hence the reason you all have not found one in over half a century. I really pity you.

mikolo80:
you keep calling us you like say you no follow get green passport. You funny. What has your leadership achieved.does it entail degrading your 'followers'' ?
Some leader you are?

Bollinger:


Green passport? Something wey i don burn since 1990. I come here because i feel pity for you guys and at the same time make fun of the mentally challenged ones. You will be surprised what my leadership has achieved. You cannot even imagine it. Believe me. If you had an iota of it, you life will never be the same again. I promise you.

mikolo80:
so why you come de drink panadol for ''our '' headache?
Talk d leadership na or forever hold your peace.
Leadership and yet naija still de foolish like dis. No be only leader na Leda.

Bollinger:


I come here because i feel pity for you guys and at the same time make fun of the mentally challenged ones like you.

mikolo80:
your bastard fada is mentally challenged

Bollinger:


Still doesn't change the fact that you are mentally challenged.

mikolo80:
like your fada abi

Bollinger:


Again, it doesn't change the fact that you are.

mikolo80:
like your dad is

Bollinger:

It doesn't change what you are.

mikolo80:
like your dad is

Bollinger:


Lol..like anything You say about my dad affects how reta.rded you are. My dad is retired and sipping brandy in the Bahamas as we speak. . Unlike your good for nothing Father who is probably still pushing a cart for a living. Lol...smh.

mikolo80:
my dad is fighting to make Nigeria a better place. You and your cowardly economic refugee dad better enjoy your stolen wealth for as long as possible. Cos soon we will hunt you all down and make you pay for your crimes against our nation

Bollinger:


Lol...he said his dad is fighting to make Nigeria great. Lol. Like pushing carts will help anyone. Smh.

mikolo80:
my dad is fighting to make Nigeria a better place. You and your cowardly economic refugee dad better enjoy your stolen wealth for as long as possible. Cos soon we will hunt you all down and make you pay for your crimes against our nation

mikolo80:
still better than a coward and a thief. Doubt your dad can look into my dads face.

Walphem:


Great piece...our minds reasoned along the same line
...how can we push this? I really don't want us to just "rant" in the internet...but to forge and solve this persistent issue in the country

Bollinger:


My dad is a retired SGT major in the united States army. I am a senior non commission officer in the said army. So let's not even go there talking about courage. We eat people like you for breakfast. Phucking m.oron. Smh.

Bollinger:


Lol...he said his father is fighting to make Nigeria great. By waiting for shares allocation. What a ret.ard. smh.

Bollinger:


Lol...he said his father is fighting to make Nigeria great. By waiting for shares allocation. What a ret.ard. smh.