randomperson:
KingEbukasblog ... Where art thou??

So u finally lied and ran away.

Ranchhoddas:
What was the sin of the little kids of Jericho?

It's the spirit that sins, and men are spirits having a brief experience in flesh. That's why sometimes children suffer for mistakes done by their fathers. Poor kids. So watch out for the kind of heritage you will be leaving your kids with.

I'd probably be trolling if I started speaking about that side of God here. Because God is not always nice. I should start a thread one day about the terrible side of God.

KingEbukasBlog:


Bro

William Craig is a very knowledgeable man

.

Not at all.

Muafrika2:

It's the spirit that sins, and men are spirits having a brief experience in flesh. That's why sometimes children suffer for mistakes done by their fathers. Poor kids. So watch out for the kind of heritage you will be leaving your kids with.

I'd probably be trolling if I started speaking about that side of God here. Because God is not always nice. I should start a thread one day about the terrible side of God.

na so...
Children suffer the mistakes of their parents...but they dont ''suffer'' free salvation from thier parents

ScepticalPyrrho:
Has any of these religionist explained how Yahweh - All-knowing, ordered the massacres in the Bible out of annoyance?

I still don't get how an all-knowing entity would still get frustrated.

He sounds more like a disgruntled fellow...

"I will kill... I will wipe out... I will destroy... I will take... I will... I.... I..."

That isn't any attribute of a God-like person. It is of a vexed man.

Mandela had a better philosophy.

U cant get it,because your brain hs decided not to.

Is that not simple?

felixomor:


So u finally lied and ran away.

Lied about what... Are u denying u called me hypocrite?? Why did u call me hypocrite?? Am tired of childish argument. If you want to help your brother respond to my comment, be my guest

felixomor:


U cant get it,because your brain hs decided not to.

Is that not simple?

Ok.

You get it?

Please explain to make sense of it.

randomperson:

Lied about what... Are u denying u called me hypocrite?? Why did u call me hypocrite?? Am tired of childish argument. If you want to help your brother respond to my comment, be my guest

Oh so the argument is now "hypocrite"?

U have no shame.
Honestly speaking.

ScepticalPyrrho:
Ok.

You get it?

Please explain to make sense of it.

Are u a baby?

felixomor:


Are u a baby?

Lol,

Now you don't get it.

randomperson:

U need to learn. U don't argue by showing isolated circumstances or individual cases... U argue by showing preponderance of evidence.
For example, that shekau is a terrorist doesn't mean all northern Muslims are terrorists. U have to show me what percentage of northern Muslims are terrorists.
We have atheist murderers but we have way more Christian murderers. There may be atheist terrorist groups but there are way more Christian terrorist groups. And yes some atheists might support incest but we have Christians like you who support genocide if it's commanded by god...
But on an average, Christians have a higher tendency to be criminals, terrorists, racists, bigots than atheists... I dare you to disprove that

I still don't understand how someone will have a relationship with God that abominates sin and then have a tendency for crime . You can't reconcile such . So here's my take :

Those people who live turpitudinous lives are simply affiliated to Christianity . And there are sects in Christianity with doctrines like purgatory that gives man the leeway to commit sin . And in those sects , some immoral acts are seen as peccadilloes or venial while some are abominable . And people feel that they can always come to ask for forgiveness from God as they seek to transform their lives . But here's what the bible says :

Romans 6 : 1

1. What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?

2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?

3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?

4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:

6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.

7 For he that is dead is freed from sin.

8 Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him:

9 Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him.

10 For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God.


But for the atheists , I just don't know . They have no moral compass - that explains why they deplore moral absolutism .

Like lying is not good . We all know that - its objective

But atheists feel that if you have to lie to save your job then it is justified . That's utter nonsense . Anyway no spoilers - morality will be discussed fully in my thread with dalaman .

ScepticalPyrrho:
Has any of these religionist explained how Yahweh - All-knowing, ordered the massacres in the Bible out of annoyance?

I still don't get how an all-knowing entity would still get frustrated.

He sounds more like a disgruntled fellow...

"I will kill... I will wipe out... I will destroy... I will take... I will... I.... I..."

That isn't any attribute of a God-like person. It is of a vexed man.

Mandela had a better philosophy.

Check the OP

jayriginal:

Not at all.

Hey jay

Have you taken time to watch his debates against atheist representatives like Christopher and watch them flounder and stutter at questions being thrown at them and he (William Craig) admirably responds to their questions with such sagacity ?

MrMontella:

na so...
Children suffer the mistakes of their parents...but they dont ''suffer'' free salvation from thier parents

I tire o.

Infact there was a part that triggered my unbelief.

A parent who committed a sin was forgiven, but the children, and generation yet unborn still has to suffer for it.

What a ridiculous judgement.

KingEbukasBlog:


Check the OP

i'll just ignore it.

Thank you

felixomor:


Oh so the argument is now "hypocrite"?

U have no shame.
Honestly speaking.

Am tired... U called me hypocrite because I kill ants and mosquitoes and am still condemning the killing of humans by god...

randomperson:

Only a fanatic like you will use one genocidal act of God to justify another. What kind of person would see god murdering his supposedly chosen people as a good thing. The murder of the Israelites was as bad and unconscionable as the murder of the other nations. Unless you want to argue that two wrongs now make a right.
And, there was impartiality. The fact that God only chose the Israelites as his people among abundant options is impartial in itself. The fact that they were even stubborn people either questions the omniscience of God or his judgment. Why choose a stubborn nation?? He could well have chosen a nation he wouldn't have to kill, it would still have been impartiality but would be palatable.
And the killing of the Canaanites in particular was just so ugly of God. God in his claimed omnipotence could have given them an unoccupied land and blessed it for them. But no it had to be the land which had been settled upon for many years by different group of people... God didn't even send them out, he took the uglier option of killing them all, adults, children even animals. If one day a land owned by your family for centuries is grabbed by some other family destroying your house and killing your people, would u be able to say that's IMC l impartiality?

Nice one!

ScepticalPyrrho:
i'll just ignore it.

Thank you

it was modified .

randomperson:

Am tired... U called me hypocrite because I kill ants and mosquitoes and am still condemning the killing of humans by god...

Mscheww,
So show me where i mentioned "ants and mosquitoes"
And where i compared them to "siblings"

MrMontella:

na so...
Children suffer the mistakes of their parents...but they dont ''suffer'' free salvation from thier parents

Goodness is hereditary too. That's what happened to Ishmael, despite not being as favoured as Isaac. For the sake of Abraham, he got an inheritance and preservation.

It's also sharable by association, through which other nations like moab were spared and survived the Israelite's onslaught on Cannan.

Muafrika2:

It's the spirit that sins, and men are spirits having a brief experience in flesh. That's why sometimes children suffer for mistakes done by their fathers. Poor kids. So watch out for the kind of heritage you will be leaving your kids with.

I'd probably be trolling if I started speaking about that side of God here. Because God is not always nice. I should start a thread one day about the terrible side of God.

Oh dear!

hopefulLandlord:


Nice one!

For the umpteenth time , God also permitted Israel to face the same consequences these pagan nations faced . If you peruse the book of Judges , you'd see that God also allowed Israel's enemies to kill and oppress them anything they err from the accepted standards of God by imitating pagan nations and living despicably sinful lives . So where is the partiality

Israel too faced brutal killings , oppression and subjugation from their enemies allowed by God Himself .

It's baffling.

MrMontella:

na so...
Children suffer the mistakes of their parents...but they dont ''suffer'' free salvation from thier parents

KingEbukasBlog:


I still don't understand how someone will have a relationship with God that abominates sin and then have a tendency for crime . You can't reconcile such . So here's my take :

Those people who live turpitudinous lives are simply affiliated to Christianity . And there are sects in Christianity with doctrines like purgatory that gives man the leeway to commit sin . And in those sects , some immoral acts are seen as peccadilloes or venial while some are abominable . And people feel that they can always come to ask for forgiveness from God as they seek to transform their lives . But here's what the bible says :

Romans 6 : 1

1. What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?

2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?

3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?

4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:

6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.

7 For he that is dead is freed from sin.

8 Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him:

9 Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him.

10 For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God.


But for the atheists , I just don't know . They have no moral compass - that explains why they deplore moral absolutism .

Like lying is not good . We all know that - its objective

But atheists feel that if you have to lie to save your job then it is justified . That's utter nonsense . Anyway no spoilers - morality will be discussed fully in my thread with dalaman .

Legendary goal post shifting. No true Scotsman fallacy. Double standards. All in just one comment.... First u say atheists are terrible people, I show u that by stats and facts Christians are actually the terrible people. Then u say they are not true Christians. But u count the ones that are not true Christians when u want to show that there are many Christian scientists
Also, u say the terrible Christians are not true Christians but the terrible atheists are true atheists, right? Gimme a break

KingEbukasBlog:


For the umpteenth time , God also permitted Israel to face the same consequences these pagan nations faced . If you peruse the book of Judges , you'd see that God also allowed Israel's enemies to kill and oppress them anything they err from the accepted standards of God by imitating pagan nations and living despicably sinful lives . So where is the partiality

Israel too faced brutal killings , oppression and subjugation from their enemies allowed by God Himself .

That God killed or allowed the killing of Israelites is not an argument in favor of God, it is against God... U need to read that my first comment again .. U have failed to address the issues there

felixomor:


Mscheww,
So show me where i mentioned "ants and mosquitoes"
And where i compared them to "siblings"

Guy... Stop acting like a petulant four year old throwing tantrums... I mentioned siblings but only after u compared god killing humans to me killing mosquitoes. How difficult can this be really??

randomperson:

Legendary goal post shifting. No true Scotsman fallacy. Double standards. All in just one comment.... First u say atheists are terrible people, I show u that by stats and facts Christians are actually the terrible people. Then u say they are not true Christians. But u count the ones that are not true Christians when u want to show that there are many Christian scientists
Also, u say the terrible Christians are not true Christians but the terrible atheists are true atheists, right? Gimme a break

Atheists are terrible people . The communists justified the killings of the religious people because they felt that where encumbrances to the actualization of their communist paradise . Even atheists on that thread I posted its links to you praised the communist government . To those atheists , the communist governments did the right thing

They claimed that man not God determines what is good or evil . And it is most times arbitrary .

You randomperson can be perfidious in business and then justify it with the principle of evolution - survival of the fittest .

Isn't it what atheists used to justify the killings Or don't you know history of wickedness carried out by your mentors

randomperson:

That God killed or allowed the killing of Israelites is not an argument in favor of God, it is against God... U need to read that my first comment again .. U have failed to address the issues there

It rubbishes your claim of partiality . The point is the wages of sin is death whether it was committed by Israel or by the pagan nations - both of them faced the Judgement of God . Simple .

You are the one just running around this thread in a pell-mell fashion .

KingEbukasBlog:


For the umpteenth time , God also permitted Israel to face the same consequences these pagan nations faced . If you peruse the book of Judges , you'd see that God also allowed Israel's enemies to kill and oppress them anything they err from the accepted standards of God by imitating pagan nations and living despicably sinful lives . So where is the partiality

Israel too faced brutal killings , oppression and subjugation from their enemies allowed by God Himself .

delusionkiller's thread already showed why wlc makes no sense

Muafrika2:

It's the spirit that sins, and men are spirits having a brief experience in flesh. That's why sometimes children suffer for mistakes done by their fathers. Poor kids. So watch out for the kind of heritage you will be leaving your kids with.

I'd probably be trolling if I started speaking about that side of God here. Because God is not always nice. I should start a thread one day about the terrible side of God.

Plz start this thread. It is good that God is not nice. He is harsh cruel and terribe as he states in the Bible. We must prepare for his full brutality to be unleashed when he returns with his sword of fire to exterminate the wicked from the face of the earth with his punishments.. Those who love Him not shall be exterminated as were the Canaanites Midianites and Amelekites. True Christians know this and await His Divine Commands. We will slaughter as many children as His will dictates. Hellfire shall be there potion.

So it has been written. So it shall be done.

ScepticalPyrrho:
Has any of these religionist explained how Yahweh - All-knowing, ordered the massacres in the Bible out of annoyance?

I still don't get how an all-knowing entity would still get frustrated.

He sounds more like a disgruntled fellow...

"I will kill... I will wipe out... I will destroy... I will take... I will... I.... I..."

That isn't any attribute of a God-like person. It is of a vexed man.

Mandela had a better philosophy.

Fool! Repent and fear the Creator of all!!