nextprince:
Do u believe in Qur'an or just searching for where u seemed 'favoured'? If u believe in it, try and study everything about it and not just some portions but if u don't believe in it, ur point is same as 'p' in psychology.

JideAmuGiaka:


At least, you didn't disagree with him.

akp202:
I wonder y people are hell bend in trying to create division between Muslim's n Christians

zionmade:

Was there any relationship between both in d first place

plainbibletruth:
Quran Says Jesus is Superior to Mohamed

What MAJORITY of muslims say about Mohamed – e.g. “he is the best of mankind”, etc – are not TRULY what the quran or HISTORY say about him. They (muslims) have simply made up those positions about Mohamed.

Perhaps they want to have a hero and as a result they have created a larger-than-life image of Mohamed. But the quran says differently. The picture of Mohamed painted for us in the quran is COMPLETELY DIFFERENT from what muslims have been fed with and would have the rest of the world believe.

On the other hand Jesus Christ is IN REALITY shown in the quran to be superior to all mankind, including Mohamed.
It is a well-known fact that Jesus (and other Prophets) are individually mentioned more times in the quran than Mohamed. But more than that is the fact that the QUALITY of Jesus’ person and the works he did (and is still doing because the quran states that he is with God – not in a temporary place awaiting what his fate will be) far outstrips that of Mohamed.

Of note from the quran are the following:
1. Jesus was conceived by a chaste virgin – Q. 3:42
2. Jesus was pure in conception and birth – Q. 4:171
3. He had the Holy Spirit – Q. 2:253
4. He is declared to be sinless – Q. 19:19
5. Those who follow JESUS are to be made superior to others – Q. 3:55
6. He is right now with God – Q. 4:158
7. He is called CHRIST JESUS (Q. 3:45 & 4:157). “Christ” meaning one that is anointed or CHOSEN to be special in all respect; chosen to save others; chosen with a special God-given purpose. A man that stands above all other men, including all the other messengers of God. One who has a superior and more excellent position above all other men. According to the quran he is “distinguished in this world and the hereafter and among those brought near”.
None of ALL THESE applied to Mohamed.

What Are the Implications of All these?
If Jesus Christ is indeed all these then it means he is the TRUE LINK between man and God. It is just not enough to give him a PASSIVE acceptance as a person or as a ‘PROPHET’. He must be seen as one who is MORE THAN A PROPHET. If there is no name greater than his, then salvation AND ETERNITY WITH GOD can be found in none else apart from him.

“For God so loved and dearly priced the world, that He gave His uniquely born Son, so that whoever believes and trusts in Him (as Saviour) shall not perish, but have eternal life. For God did not send the Son into the world to judge the world but that the world might be saved through him.” Jn. 3:16-17

akp202:
I wonder y people are hell bend in trying to create division between Muslim's n Christians

nextprince:
Do u believe in Qur'an or just searching for where u seemed 'favoured'? If u believe in it, try and study everything about it and not just some portions but if u don't believe in it, ur point is same as 'p' in psychology.

akp202:
They are both humans

analice107:

What do you mean byb"Trying to create divison between Christians and Muslims?". Have we ever been One before?

analice107:

No. Christians are alive spiritually, but Muslims are dead.

akp202:
so because Christians are alive spiritually makes them not to be human right?

akp202:
do u mean u don't have any as friend?

plainbibletruth:
Quran Says Jesus is Superior to Mohamed

What MAJORITY of muslims say about Mohamed – e.g. “he is the best of mankind”, etc – are not TRULY what the quran or HISTORY say about him. They (muslims) have simply made up those positions about Mohamed.

Perhaps they want to have a hero and as a result they have created a larger-than-life image of Mohamed. But the quran says differently. The picture of Mohamed painted for us in the quran is COMPLETELY DIFFERENT from what muslims have been fed with and would have the rest of the world believe.

On the other hand Jesus Christ is IN REALITY shown in the quran to be superior to all mankind, including Mohamed.

It is a well-known fact that Jesus (and other Prophets) are individually mentioned more times in the quran than Mohamed.

But more than that is the fact that the QUALITY of Jesus’ person and the works he did (and is still doing because the quran states that he is with God – not in a temporary place awaiting what his fate will be) far outstrips that of Mohamed.

Of note from the quran are the following:
1. Jesus was conceived by a chaste virgin – Q. 3:42

2. Jesus was pure in conception and birth – Q. 4:171

3. He had the Holy Spirit – Q. 2:253

4. He is declared to be sinless – Q. 19:19

5. Those who follow JESUS are to be made superior to others – Q. 3:55

6. He is right now with God – Q. 4:158

7. He is called CHRIST JESUS (Q. 3:45 & 4:157). “Christ”

meaning one that is anointed or CHOSEN to be special in all respect; chosen to save others; chosen with a special God-given purpose. A man that stands above all other men, including all the other messengers of God. One who has a superior and more excellent position above all other men.

According to the quran he is “distinguished in this world and the hereafter and among those brought near”.

None of ALL THESE applied to Mohamed.

What Are the Implications of All these?

If Jesus Christ is indeed all these then it means he is the TRUE LINK between man and God.
He was the true link, but now, the true link is Muhammad.
But the thing is such that if you follow the true teachings of Jesus (peace be upon him), you become a Muslim. So, that link (Jesus, peace be upon him) may have expired, but if you follow it truly, it leads to the true link (Muhammad, peace be upon him), that never expires.

[quote]It is just not enough to give him a PASSIVE acceptance as a person or as a ‘PROPHET’. He must be seen as one who is MORE THAN A PROPHET.

If there is no name greater than his, then salvation AND ETERNITY WITH GOD can be found in none else apart from him.

“For God so loved and dearly priced the world, that He gave His uniquely born Son, so that whoever believes and trusts in Him (as Saviour) shall not perish, but have eternal life. For God did not send the Son into the world to judge the world but that the world might be saved through him.” Jn. 3:16-17

akp202:
I wonder y people are hell bend in trying to create division between Muslim's n Christians

nextprince:
Do u believe in Qur'an or just searching for where u seemed 'favoured'? If u believe in it, try and study everything about it and not just some portions but if u don't believe in it, ur point is same as 'p' in psychology.

Haroun13:

Hate to disappoint you but here's what the Quran says on that;
3:84
Say: "We believe in God, and in what has been revealed to us and what was revealed to Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob, and the Tribes, and in (the Books) given to Moses, Jesus, and the prophets, from their Lord: We make no distinction between one and another among them, [/b]and to God do we bow our will (in Islam)."
004:152
[b]And those who believe in God and His messengers and do not make a distinction between any of them - God will grant them their rewards; and God is Forgiving, Merciful.


Are you for real? I guess you haven't read the Quran, just talking based on hear say. Sorry to disappoint you again but here's the Quran;
There has certainly been for you in the Messenger of Allah an excellent pattern for anyone whose hope is in Allah and the Last Day and [who] remembers Allah often. (33:21 )
And indeed, you (Muhammad) are of a great moral character. [Quran 68:4]
Well, who's better to be followed, than the best?


Refer above


You are gonna have to show us that verse, cause I've never come across it.


Funny that you guys still say this. If that's the case, then even Jesus (peace be upon him) would be very much lower down the chain, considering that Musa (peace be upon him) is mentioned by name more than 5x that of Jesus (peace be upon him) is mentioned.
Or Ibrahim (peace be upon him), more than 2x, amongst others.
Also, since I've been talking to you, i haven't called your name, because I'm addressing you. The only four places the name of Muhammad (peace be upon him) were expressly mentioned were instances were God was using the messenger (peace be upon him) as an example, that is, referring to him, but addressing the believers. Throughout the Quran, God Almighty addresses the prophet in numerous places, just like Quran 68:4 i mentioned above, God says; "you", but that is referring to Muhammad (peace be upon him). So, this method of reasoning by Christians is totally fallible, and carries no weight. In fact, it can be debunked thrice in a minute by any knowledgable person.


All messengers are in heaven, so, it doesn't change anything. Only difference is; while the other messengers and prophets of God are there without their actual, physical bodies, Jesus (peace be upon him) is there with his, because he is not yet dead.


Well, Adam (peace be upon him) was made by God Almighty himself, Jesus (peace be upon him) was still in the womb, and carried for the normal gestation period of humans, and was born like every other baby, only difference is, without male intervention. So, if we are to compare on that basis, then the birth of Jesus (peace be upon him) is not even as miraculous or as special as the creation of Adam.


Well, no child is born with sin in Islam. So, this applies to every human, not just Jesus (peace be upon him)



Well, he's not the only one. In fact, all human beings have this.
"Behold! thy Lord said to the angels: ‘I am about to create man, from sounding clay from mud molded into shape; When I have fashioned him (in due proportion) and breathed into him of My Spirit, fall ye down in obeisance unto him.’" S. 15:28-29


The verse says in summary that Maryam (peace be upon her) will be made to give birth to a pure boy. Although, it is not mentioned that Jesus (peace be upon him) committed any sin, but that doesn't change anything, and doesn't mean he didn't, or wouldn't. We Muslims do not assume, we follow that which is revealed and do not play "fill in the gaps".


That was during the time of Jesus (peace be upon him). Now, it is the time of Muhammad (peace be upon him), and it applies as such.

"And whoever is an ally of Allah and His Messenger and those who have believed - Indeed, the party of Allah - they will be the predominant." [Al-Qur'an 5:56]
Like the verse above, it doesn't matter which prophet it is, so long as you are following the true teachings of the prophet of your time, that rule applies to you.


The Quran says that God raised him (Jesus, peace be upon him) to himself. Simply means that he was raised physically, without dying, other prophets are also in heaven, just like Jesus (peace be upon him). Doesn't change anything.


True


Well, the messengers and prophets of God are above all of mankind, and have been chosen by God.
But nowhere in the Quran does it say that Jesus is superior to other prophets. I'll like you to show it to us.
Besides, if he is superior to other messengers as you claim, then, why does he have to come back and rule, using the shari'a of the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him)? Not coming back with his own shari'a, but as a follower of Muhammad. That's some weird superiority you claim there you know.


The verse it self already answers you. Read the word in bold.


Look again.


There's nothing in the your post, talk less of an implication.

Haroun13:

Hate to disappoint you but here's what the Quran says on that;
3:84
Say: "We believe in God, and in what has been revealed to us and what was revealed to Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob, and the Tribes, and in (the Books) given to Moses, Jesus, and the prophets, from their Lord: We make no distinction between one and another among them, [/b]and to God do we bow our will (in Islam)."
004:152

plainbibletruth:

Try pronouncing psychology without the 'p'.

plainbibletruth:

You do not make distinction between the prophet's YET you still have one that is better to be followed?
And that is not not DISTINCTION?
Are you for real?
I'll take you up on the others later.

analice107:

Answer for yourself. A dead person and a living person are the same to you?

Auki:


Jazakallah Hairan. The problem is that most of them are here to ridicule Islam rather than learn to at least gain additional knowledge.

I noticed that most of the ridicules are from Christian-confirming Quran position.

May Allah guide them.

nextprince:


That's were u lost it. The muslims believe in all prophets. Infact, such a belief is integral in the muslims' Articles of Faith.

After my first comment, I was invited back with a quote but after reading the comment, I tried to read through some other comments. Some comments were already insulting Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) and that is exactly why I left the thread without a single comment.

This is what a muslim will never do against Jesus Christ because they believe in him as well, prove me wrong pls

analice107:

Answer for yourself. A dead person and a living person are the same to you?

Haroun13


Are you for real? I guess you haven't read the Quran, just talking based on hear say. Sorry to disappoint you again but here's the Quran;
There has certainly been for you in the Messenger of Allah an excellent pattern for anyone whose hope is in Allah and the Last Day and [who] remembers Allah often. (33:21 )
And indeed, you (Muhammad) are of a great moral character. [Quran 68:4]
Well, who's better to be followed, than the best?


Refer above

You are gonna have to show us that verse, cause I've never come across it.

All messengers are in heaven, so, it doesn't change anything. Only difference is; while the other messengers and prophets of God are there without their actual, physical bodies, Jesus (peace be upon him) is there with his, because he is not yet dead.

Well, Adam (peace be upon him) was made by God Almighty himself, Jesus (peace be upon him) was still in the womb, and carried for the normal gestation period of humans, and was born like every other baby, only difference is, without male intervention. So, if we are to compare on that basis, then the birth of Jesus (peace be upon him) is not even as miraculous or as special as the creation of Adam.


Well, no child is born with sin in Islam. So, this applies to every human, not just Jesus (peace be upon him)

Well, he's not the only one. In fact, all human beings have this.
"Behold! thy Lord said to the angels: ‘I am about to create man, from sounding clay from mud molded into shape; When I have fashioned him (in due proportion) and breathed into him of My Spirit, fall ye down in obeisance unto him.’" S. 15:28-29

The verse says in summary that Maryam (peace be upon her) will be made to give birth to a pure boy. Although, it is not mentioned that Jesus (peace be upon him) committed any sin, but that doesn't change anything, and doesn't mean he didn't, or wouldn't. We Muslims do not assume, we follow that which is revealed and do not play "fill in the gaps".


That was during the time of Jesus (peace be upon him). Now, it is the time of Muhammad (peace be upon him), and it applies as such.

"And whoever is an ally of Allah and His Messenger and those who have believed - Indeed, the party of Allah - they will be the predominant." [Al-Qur'an 5:56]
Like the verse above, it doesn't matter which prophet it is, so long as you are following the true teachings of the prophet of your time, that rule applies to you.

The Quran says that God raised him (Jesus, peace be upon him) to himself. Simply means that he was raised physically, without dying, other prophets are also in heaven, just like Jesus (peace be upon him). Doesn't change anything.

True

Well, the messengers and prophets of God are above all of mankind, and have been chosen by God.
But nowhere in the Quran does it say that Jesus is superior to other prophets. I'll like you to show it to us.
Besides, if he is superior to other messengers as you claim, then, why does he have to come back and rule, using the shari'a of the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him)? Not coming back with his own shari'a, but as a follower of Muhammad. That's some weird superiority you claim there you know.


The verse it self already answers you. Read the word in bold.

Look again.


There's nothing in the your post, talk less of an implication.

akp202:
I wonder y people are hell bend in trying to create division between Muslim's n Christians

Omudia:
The bolded is a lie. FriendChoice is one of the Muslims who insult Jesus Christ here on this forum. And that's sad because the Quran acknowledges Jesus Christ as Savior.

FriendChoice:



@nextprince The lost sheep should not lie to you. I have never ever in my life insult Jesus peace be upon him. I love Jesus more than the lost sheeps themselves. What they call insult is Bible verse or there church saying that I quote.


You should show you one of my statement that insult Jesus. Foolish useless liar.

Omudia:
Altaquiya: lying for Allah. You have insulted Christ countlessly here and called him a thief.

You're more useless than than the "K" in "knock". All Muslims have been lost since 1400years ago.